Post: #51

(08-13-2013 06:33 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  if you can see 5 guys that she is fucking or has fucked and you think you arent just like them, then you are deluding yourself

Yep. Our male hamsters tell us that we are special. But we're not.

We're just another dick in a long line of dicks.

Post: #52

Quote: I wonder if the rise of digital connectivity has caused the great wave of sluttiness we are experiencing, or if it is just an expression of the innate sluttiness...

I wondered that as well. If any one here is old enough to have used answering machines then you will recall not checking the messages when you have a girl with you. It went the same for women..... you could see the red light blinking but they would not check it in front of you.

Some women didnt even have answering machines. It was a matter of luck, or scheduling a call when they said they would be home.

Now we are always connected. Someone on here mentioned seeing their little sisters social media accounts once and just how staggering it was that there are just so many notifications for them to respond to.

Post: #53

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

It's because women will date above their league, and men will date below their league.

For example, I bang sixes all the time, but these relationships never last. I usually wait for them to dump me. I chase other ass on the side.

Then I see who they are dating after me, and it's usually an inferior guy. I think to myself, "Yeah, that's because it's more in her league."

Women aren't necessarily interested in being treated like shit all the time. Sure, a nice alpha fling every now and thing is great, but they still want a loyal beta to take care of them.

Conversely, and in opposition to what a lot of guys on here are saying, I've seen a lot of my ex-bangs/girls fuck guys who were taller/richer/better dressed than me, or just as good as me.

If too many of your ex's are fucking guys you consider inferior to yourself, then it's probably because you're dating down too much.

Post: #54

I had an ex who would regularly sneak my phone and look through it. By the time we broke up she was certifiable...absolutely paranoid. However, what she would often find in my phone were conversations and call logs i had with other girls. Nothing that rose to the level of cheating, but in her mind it was a threat...which equaled lots of crazy sex. Leave little nuggets of gold for your woman to find and it can work out as a positive, at least for a little while.

Post: #55

(08-13-2013 07:18 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

It's because women will date above their league, and men will date below their league.

For example, I bang sixes all the time, but these relationships never last. I usually wait for them to dump me. I chase other ass on the side.

Then I see who they are dating after me, and it's usually an inferior guy. I think to myself, "Yeah, that's because it's more in her league."

Women aren't necessarily interested in being treated like shit all the time. Sure, a nice alpha fling every now and thing is great, but they still want a loyal beta to take care of them.

Conversely, and in opposition to what a lot of guys on here are saying, I've seen a lot of my ex-bangs/girls fuck guys who were taller/richer/better dressed than me, or just as good as me.

If too many of your ex's are fucking guys you consider inferior to yourself, then it's probably because you're dating down too much.

Very true, and if I might add it's funny how the first few times I'll take one out, she'll be all over her phone and will be lame about texting back.

Post: #56

(08-13-2013 04:06 PM)j r Wrote:  I once heard a story about guy wearing a white crew neck undershirt under his dress shirt who got laid. I think it's just an urban legend though.

I can confirm the story. I am that guy

Post: #57

Going through a girl's phone is opening Pandora's Box. If you're new to game your heart will start racing at just how many cocks she's playing as well.

If she's not YOUR girl don't give a fuck and don't snoop. It's pointless anyway; you're not trying to lock her down or put a ring on it.

Post: #58

You'll never be able to fill the needs of a certain girl at any given time and no one girl will ever be able to fill your needs. It is human nature to be self-interested and pleasure seeking. Women bring warmth, but eventually you'll figure out that the fire doesn't last and the world is really just as cold as it ever was. We're the same as women in the realm of sex, our self-interested actions seem just as 'evil' as theirs do to us. Just the way things are.

'you can't trust a woman, but you can trust a woman to act like a woman'

Post: #59

Yes, all women a fucking whores, what else is new.

Women are all in the game in some form or another. It's just men have so many beta's who are are clueless with women.

This helps us understand why young hot women are usually extremely non-needy, non-clingy, and rarely have one-itis, because they always have a full funnel of 10-20 guys + working to get in their pants. So, if they're just going to play dirty this way, I'm gonna to dish it right back at them.

Fill that funnel and give yourself options. Women clearly know the game and know what they're doing. I can't tell you how many times a day I see a fat mom driving her mercedes SUV that her beta husband pays for. Of course the fattie must have looked somewhat pretty before she got married, landed the successful beta, got fat, and now she's the husband's problem.

End rant.

Post: #60

I like reading this thread right after the "how often do you lie to girls" thread.

Post: #61

(08-13-2013 04:02 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

If you think about it another way it does.

I've said this over and over, but

If you search for the girls that LIKE YOU then you'll get with women easier.

What I haven't said before is this: There's Somebody for EVERYBODY.

Meaning that women are not as picky as you'd like to think they are. Sure its still good to keep yourself decent looking, take care of yourself and make yourself more marketable to a wider scope of women. BUT that doesn't mean that a woman won't bang a "low class" guy.

Its like this, yeah Usually you'd LOVE to eat at a nice restaurant with decent portions and cordon blue type quality chefs, BUT you ALSO find yourself eating at either

a)McDonalds
b) that "C" rated (southern Californians should know what I mean) Mexican food/burger/Chinese food joint down the corner.

and sometimes you'll eat there for a while too! (maybe a few weeks at a time or something if you're really craving it)

MANY TIMES, a certain guy (or multiple guys) just kill that particular need to a girl.

I bet you this, if the roles were reversed, and you lived in an alternate reality where women would chase down MEN for sex as often as men do here on this Earth, that sometimes, you'd bone someone who's "not up to par" just for Varieties' sake.

That guy got lucky AND he probably gives her some great sex (probably better than what you are doing)

Hell There was a time when I was young, with no money, and being evicted out of my place and I STILL had this pretty young thing I was hittin up, hell I had her buy me food and shit lol(I really had no money then)

Thing is, women LOOOOVE dick. (unless they're lez)

They love it MORE than Men love sex, they just hide it very well.

A lot of guys don't believe this. But now some of you are starting to figure this out.

Thing is . . .

This is not new.

China, and India, have over a BILLION people for a reason. . .and if you think about India. . .you KNOW it's the women that are getting laid with many many dudes, giving birth to kids that aren't likely the father's in high amounts. Unless you keep a woman tied up, somewhere, she is going to fuck other dudes.

Its simple biology. Not shocking if you think about it.

Post: #62

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

Ha.... funny thing is that this is a short obese guy she is fucking... And I am a tall guy with a lower bodyfat percentage than him and I look better than him + have more cash. He sends her messages like: "I hope I don't drop a 120lb dumbbell on the tall fucker."

Lmao.

I'm not gonna lie, deep down inside I want to be in a LTR with a "good, traditional" girl but I know it isn't possible in this day and age.

Post: #63

(08-13-2013 11:07 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:02 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:52 PM)soup Wrote:  Something doesn't add up. This forum is probably the largest online collection of game guys in the world.

If these girls are banging guys that don't jibe with what we talk about here, then we are definitely missing something..

For real, next time you can check out who one of your girls male sidepieces are, you're gonna notice a HUGE disparity between what we say works in terms of game, non-neediness, & looking your best and the reality of who she's fucking. More often than not it is NOT this alpha male who looks good, has tight game, and dresses well. The sidepieces a lot of girls are fucking are just whack.

I met this girl on Tindr a couple weeks ago. She invited me over and we were fucking within an hour. Later on we're smoking a cig on her porch and one of her sidepieces calls her up for a bootycall. This is Sunday night and he had just down 15 shots at a bar down the road. She put it on speakerphone like I wasnt even there and he was slurring his words, random pauses. She showed me a picture of him, he was overweight, working minimum wage shit job, and an overall slob. And this girl was a 7.5-8.

You're right something doesn't add up.

If you think about it another way it does.

I've said this over and over, but

If you search for the girls that LIKE YOU then you'll get with women easier.

What I haven't said before is this: There's Somebody for EVERYBODY.

Meaning that women are not as picky as you'd like to think they are. Sure its still good to keep yourself decent looking, take care of yourself and make yourself more marketable to a wider scope of women. BUT that doesn't mean that a woman won't bang a "low class" guy.

Its like this, yeah Usually you'd LOVE to eat at a nice restaurant with decent portions and cordon blue type quality chefs, BUT you ALSO find yourself eating at either

a)McDonalds
b) that "C" rated (southern Californians should know what I mean) Mexican food/burger/Chinese food joint down the corner.

and sometimes you'll eat there for a while too! (maybe a few weeks at a time or something if you're really craving it)

MANY TIMES, a certain guy (or multiple guys) just kill that particular need to a girl.

I bet you this, if the roles were reversed, and you lived in an alternate reality where women would chase down MEN for sex as often as men do here on this Earth, that sometimes, you'd bone someone who's "not up to par" just for Varieties' sake.

That guy got lucky AND he probably gives her some great sex (probably better than what you are doing)

Hell There was a time when I was young, with no money, and being evicted out of my place and I STILL had this pretty young thing I was hittin up, hell I had her buy me food and shit lol(I really had no money then)

Thing is, women LOOOOVE dick. (unless they're lez)

They love it MORE than Men love sex, they just hide it very well.

A lot of guys don't believe this. But now some of you are starting to figure this out.

Thing is . . .

This is not new.

China, and India, have over a BILLION people for a reason. . .and if you think about India. . .you KNOW it's the women that are getting laid with many many dudes, giving birth to kids that aren't likely the father's in high amounts. Unless you keep a woman tied up, somewhere, she is going to fuck other dudes.

Its simple biology. Not shocking if you think about it.

This is just not true. There is not somebody for everybody

Post: #64

Quote:Thing is, women LOOOOVE dick. (unless they're lez)

Funny how lesbians tend to insert dick shaped objects into their vaginas then.

Post: #65

(08-13-2013 09:44 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  You'll never be able to fill the needs of a certain girl at any given time and no one girl will ever be able to fill your needs. It is human nature to be self-interested and pleasure seeking. Women bring warmth, but eventually you'll figure out that the fire doesn't last and the world is really just as cold as it ever was. We're the same as women in the realm of sex, our self-interested actions seem just as 'evil' as theirs do to us. Just the way things are.

'you can't trust a woman, but you can trust a woman to act like a woman'

But the difference is men tend not to misrepresent themselves, at least not to the extent that women do. I think that's why it comes as such a shock to men without much experience.

Post: #66

What I tend to find in girl's phones/facebooks is different to most on here, maybe because I'm not in the US. Generally they are not fucking other guys concurrently, but more leading several guys on and misrepresenting themselves as completely single good girls. What is equally scandalous though, is that when I've looked at the timing, messages were often sent at times that I would have least expected them to be bothered with other guys such as while out on what seemed like pleasant evenings with me, after having been fucked ridiculous etc.

Also, without exception, every girl who's phone I've looked in is still in regular contact with their exes, even when they go out of their way to bring exes up and claim they aren't in contact.

Post: #67

Another observation from observing girls in my social circle, is that this behaviour is almost compulsive in that they may be pretty happy with their partners, but just can't help exchanging messages, giving out their numbers, etc even when they have little intentions of acting on it.

Post: #68

I don't snoop, because I might puke from what I see there. And scat/puke is not my cup of tea.

On a serious side tho, we are fucking, and I don't want any drama in my life, just any. If you spot, her behavior won't change, but you might be dissappointed.

My regular girl tho doesn't even answer calls from her family members when we are together. At my place she just leaves it on the cabinet and turns off the sound. I quite like it.

Post: #69

I still want to believe that this is a generalisation and there are in fact girls who don't behave this way. I think with experience a man can judge if a girl is fucking others on the side. In my case, if she is, I am not interested as much, of course. But I don't think it's a given they do.

Probably there's also some sort of selection bias going on here. I found that the biggest sluts I've shagged were also very easy to lay. One indicator therefor simply is if the girl is easy. If she is then, again, I'm not that interested.

Post: #70

(08-14-2013 06:35 AM)muc Wrote:  I still want to believe that this is a generalisation and there are in fact girls who don't behave this way. I think with experience a man can judge if a girl is fucking others on the side. In my case, if she is, I am not interested as much, of course. But I don't think it's a given they do.

Probably there's also some sort of selection bias going on here. I found that the biggest sluts I've shagged were also very easy to lay. One indicator therefor simply is if the girl is easy. If she is then, again, I'm not that interested.

I am now sleeping exclusively with a girl from eastern europe who is 21 and claims that she only had sex with 3 men before. I tend to believe her. Perhaps I am naive. Or perhaps this thread is just a reflection of guys meeting certain girls.

Dangerous assumptions. There might, in fact, be girls who don't behave this way. Certainly my sister is one the rare ones (right guys?!?, right?!?!). The problem is even good(er) girls tend to lie about this stuff and if you believe their lies the fall, when you find out, can really suck. Back in my pre 'red pill' days I dated a girl who told me right before we had sex for the first time that I was the second guy she'd slept with. That's not typically something I care or ask about but she volunteered the information out of the blue and I took it at face value. Much later I found out that she'd really been with at least six guys before me but the other 5 'didn't count' in her mind for some reason. That's still a low number of guys for a 23 year old chick living in a city - if a girl I hooked up with now told me she'd been with six guys I'd be pretty happy - but for some reason finding out she'd lied about that really fucked me up and I started acting like a bitch.

I don't believe there's anyway to know you've met a good girl; there's only a cacophony of ways to know you're dating a slut. You need to date someone for a _long_ time before making any decisions about who they are as a person. That's why dudes who get married (or move in with a girl) after 6 months are just asking for trouble.

Post: #71

(08-14-2013 01:55 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  I'm not gonna lie, deep down inside I want to be in a LTR with a "good, traditional" girl but I know it isn't possible in this day and age.

yes there are man, don't let yourself get jaded.

there really are, especially if you can handle them well. deep down inside the women want the same thing too. they want a man who can handle them, lead them, fuck them well, and they will largely return it to you the way you want.

i'm almost 40. been married and divorced. banged countless women. traveled the world. i feel like i've seen it all. and i'm in a relationship with a woman who is ten years younger than i am, gorgeous, takes care of herself, cooks every day, has her own awesome job, has given me (another) beautiful child, fucks me every single which way I want whenever I want (three years in), and even on occasion lets me fuck other chicks with her blessing.

ok maybe that last part isn't traditional but i like it.

remember, how the women act is largely up to you.

and fellas, if you KNOW that a chick you're banging is actively fucking other dudes, you need to come to the conclusion that you're not giving her what she needs/wants and its your game that is slacking.

when i've been dating four and five girls at a time, they all without fail are monogamous to me while i'm banging other chicks. hell, even my long term girl when she had a two month window to fuck whoever she wanted, didnt even as much as hold hands with another dude.

be The Man, and they will naturally be monogamous to you because why would they want to eat some shit pie when they can just wait a few days and have gourmet?

this is even if you don't ask them to be monogamous to you.

Post: #72

Regardless if I suspect the girls I date other dudes, I always make sure to live markers and indicators that I've been sniffing around that territory too. When me and one of my slam pieces spend the weekend together I make sure to fuck her hard enough that she's sore for a few days afterwards, perhaps thrawting another guys attempts at initiating sex with her so she can recover. Men are usual more perceptive than women, so I like to cum all over my side of her sheets. Little things like that.

Post: #73

@reaper

Can you elaborate on how you got the girls to totally monogamous to you while you bang other girls

Post: #74

Valhalla:

It's not a specific technique. It's a result of you being the most bad ass man she knows.

Focus on the self improvement stuff. Work the polarity. Be strong fit stylish. Fuck her brains out. Be professionally successful. Etc etc.

girls would go on dates, text me from the bathroom, get a meal paid for, complain that the guys weren't me, and then come over and fuck me.

Over and over again

Post: #75

(08-13-2013 03:22 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 02:16 PM)soup Wrote:  Anyone who reads this thread and still believes that women are special are deluding themselves.

There is no such thing as hooker with a heart of gold, and women are not to be trusted at all.

What gets me is not that their fucking other guys, but their fucking guys who seem significantly lower quality than you - out of shape, weird fucking facial hair, wiggers, goof balls, unemployed, nasty hipsters, etc.

I've done some research on other dudes I've found that a girl I was seeing fucking and they were just not alpha at all - not particularly good looking, well-dressed, or even seemed like having a charming personality, but in fact clingy. Now a few alphas slip through, but most of the dudes she's fucking are not this alpha ideal we espouse on this board here at all.

I can accept fooling around with other cool guys, but when I see these guys I look at the girl, "how can you go from fucking quality like me to fucking THAT turd."

I don't think anyone on this board has claimed that being a certain type of man is the only way to get pussy and no other man has ever had sex. Complete lames luck into hot girls all the time. Maybe he was at the right place at the right time, maybe he was persistent, maybe he provides her with money or other gifts, maybe he gives her a sense of security/comfort, who really knows or cares. These guys are clingy/needy because they are not fucking numerous women or at least not up to this particular girl's standard.