Post: #26

(09-28-2010 11:36 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  I speak fluent Spanish and are very attuned with pop cultural and politics of several Latin American countries and I can tell you from experience of traveling thru Latin America for years that the most success I had with Latinas in Latin America is pretending that my Spanish was barely conversational and that I am unfamiliar with her country.

I am latin as well, and speak fluent spanish as you already know. However, I am more of the tan-skin color. Still, the best way for me to score with latinas in any spanish speaking country is to do exactly what you described: pretend my Spanish is at the beginner level, and that I am very Americanized.

I've even had women who are latin immediately after I start talking about their country state "I am very Americanized, I don't know much about <insert country where she is from>" and say it with such pride as to DHV. I reply with "wow, so sorry to hear that" to bring their attitude down.

Bottom line, if you are a fluent latin speaker, the best way to score quicker with latin women is to pretend you hardly speak Spanish and act dumb in latin culture ways. Go figure.

Mixx

Post: #27

Good Advice. I'm curious though, substituting Spanish for Portuguese of course, does this same approach work in Brazil?

Post: #28

(12-29-2010 02:21 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  Good Advice. I'm curious though, substituting Spanish for Portuguese of course, does this same approach work in Brazil?

Nope. I lived in Brazil for 2 years, and I am also fluent in Portuguese. Since I have the typical Brazilian "look" (I am not Brazilian), and spoke Portuguese very well, it worked against me, not in my favor.

Now, when I started speaking French, and saying I was French instead of a latino, born in America, I started getting favorable results. I am not French.

Brazil has the same racist triangle that Mexico has towards non-whites. Honestly, the only country I have not seen this behavior is Colombia and Argentina.

Which is why if you are white with blonde hair and green eyes, these are the places to hit right away for more lays: Brazil and Mexico.

I did business in Mexico for about 1 year, and had to play up my American side, and kind of hide my Latino side to get ass.

Mixx

Post: #29

(09-26-2010 03:36 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  I'm curious to know how safe traveling in Mexico would be for African Americans, especially those of us who know about 8 words of Spanish only! Lol.

Just curious as to how you plan to pull women if you don't speak the language. Not saying this can't be done, but I'm curious as to how you plan to do this. Also, if you only know 8 words how do you plan to know when someone is talking sh*t about you?

Post: #30

(12-29-2010 02:35 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(09-26-2010 03:36 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  I'm curious to know how safe traveling in Mexico would be for African Americans, especially those of us who know about 8 words of Spanish only! Lol.

Just curious as to how you plan to pull women if you don't speak the language. Not saying this can't be done, but I'm curious as to how you plan to do this. Also, if you only know 8 words how do you plan to know when someone is talking sh*t about you?

Well, I'm not overly concerned if somoene's talking sh*t about me, so I haven't really considered that. As far as pulling women, well I'm not sure if that will be easily possible, which is why i asked the question. Now, I've been to mexico before, (Mexicali) and had some limited success, but I was wanting to go deeper into Mexico, so I'm wondering if the attitudes are a bit different than right near the border.

Post: #31

(12-29-2010 02:46 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(12-29-2010 02:35 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(09-26-2010 03:36 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  I'm curious to know how safe traveling in Mexico would be for African Americans, especially those of us who know about 8 words of Spanish only! Lol.

Just curious as to how you plan to pull women if you don't speak the language. Not saying this can't be done, but I'm curious as to how you plan to do this. Also, if you only know 8 words how do you plan to know when someone is talking sh*t about you?

Well, I'm not overly concerned if somoene's talking sh*t about me, so I haven't really considered that. As far as pulling women, well I'm not sure if that will be easily possible, which is why i asked the question. Now, I've been to mexico before, (Mexicali) and had some limited success, but I was wanting to go deeper into Mexico, so I'm wondering if the attitudes are a bit different than right near the border.

URM I agree.

JM - I'm sure that many on this forum including yourself has pulled women without knowing the language. I think that there are several ways to do this. For example, I've went to certain clubs in Brazil and Colombia (before knowing any of the language) where I'm in my element (where the play salsa or R&B, Soca, etc). I've just asked women to dance, ended up getting a kiss and took here back to the spot. Some women approached me to dance, one woman I dance with asked me back to her house immediately when I was in Bogota. You can tell when the chick is attracted by looking at her body language. If however you can dance, I think that that helps tremendously. I think that your energy can draw people in and when you are different/foreign, some women are naturally attracted to that. I've gone as far as finding someone who knows english in the place to translate for me if I know that the panties are wet and I have a chance of smashing. I can speak spanish now but I was able to do it before with the methods mentioned above. (By the way, I'm not as seasoned as several of the fellas on this forum but that has worked for me before). You can also couchsurf and find natives that know some english to meet up with before you get there so that when you need a hand in translation you can get it. Many of these people male or female would love to meet someone to practice their english with. I know that you weren't saying that it can't be done, but that is how I believe one would do it.

Post: #32

D I didn't say it couldn't be done. Just wondering what his MO is. As you indicated, being smoove on the dance floor is one way to do this.

Post: #33

(12-29-2010 05:22 PM)JayMillz Wrote:  D I didn't say it couldn't be done. Just wondering what his MO is. As you indicated, being smoove on the dance floor is one way to do this.

JM, I now understand. My bad.

Post: #34

(09-27-2010 01:26 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I almost spit out my orange juice! hahahah...What's up with that weird stocky shape a lot of women get who are from Mexico or central America?

It's not only them (los chicanos y chicanas). I think it's that native indian look in general. When I went to Winnipeg (which has a high native indian population), I saw nothing but that square ass shape. Big Obelix guts and non existent ass..no matter how much weight these lizards would put on, it would go straight to the gut and the back but leave the ass as flat as my ironing board.

Post: #35

(12-30-2010 09:54 AM)Moma Wrote:  When I went to Winnipeg (which has a high native indian population), I saw nothing but that square ass shape. Big Obelix guts and non existent ass..no matter how much weight these lizards would put on, it would go straight to the gut and the back but leave the ass as flat as my ironing board.

Damn man...you just made me lose interest in Winnipeg!!!

Mixx

Post: #36

(12-29-2010 02:01 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(09-27-2010 04:05 AM)Combo Wrote:  I don't think men in any country like foreigners that come to bang the local women. Just human nature. But I wouldn't let that stop you from going somewhere unless there are threats of actual violence. The only place where that is a significant possibility now is Russia.

Ummm. I respectfully disagree. I could give a rat-ass who comes to bang local girls in New York City where I am from. So long as I am getting my fair share, who cares? A lot of men could care less if a Russian were to come to Miami to fuck girls, or an Argie/Cuban...hell they are all here like it or not. I have never cock-blocked or given dirty looks to any foreigner I see with a latina. Hell, I even contribute on this board to many gringos who want to bang latinas (I'm latino).

So, I never understood why we are hated on - plain American - wether you are white, latino-american, or afro-american - you will run into haters galore.

Mixx

I disagree with your assessment, Mixx. One thing I can say I am good at is determining and gauging people's moods. Living here in Pleasantville, I am forced to really bring those skills to the forefront since Canadians tend not to say what they think or feel. In that respect, I have to use other tactics and understanding of old human behaviour (body language, omission in language used) to gauge what is going on.

Men from other countries do not like other groups being successful with their women. I have gone to events such as Kenyan beer parties and been stared down by some dude emboldened by booze because I'm gaming on his country woman. This is, despite he having zero chance with her (she shut him down prior to APPROACHING me).

Jealousy is a big thing amongst men. If a man feels that you have the ability to fuk his women (his wife, daughter) or any woman that he feels he owns, he will take drastic actions to deter this from happening.

This is not to say that you must pussyfoot around when you really want to get some nani but it should be taken in mind and one has to be flexible.
If you are in a very conservative circle and you are seen as an alpha male but outnumbered by beta chodes, my advice would be to think before you are acting or engage in some sort of strategic maneouvre.

The conquest of women have brought many great men crumbling to their knees so this jealousy is not to be overlooked.

I know a former friend of mine who had to go to court because he punched his roommate in the face after the roommate fcuked a slut of his. I won't call her a girlfriend because she was just out for sausage and she even told him that she thought I was hot.

This friend of mine was a highly educated man accustomed to getting pussy but he still lost control when it came to nookie negotiations.

Post: #37

@Moma. Wait I think I sent the wrong message on my post. It's not that I don't agree that it happens, and is a big problem and security concern when banging local women in foreign countries. I felt a lot of hostility and resentment when I was in Slovenia from just about every local guy who saw me with a Slovenian girl in my arm. I experienced the same resentment from Brazilian men when I was gaming local women in Sao Paulo, however not in Brasilia.

I received many dirty looks, and some local men even tried the infamous old-western style stare down dead in my eyes to show Alpha-ness. Some even screamed shit at me I did not understand - which probably saved me from many fist fights with local Slovenian men as their women gave me goo-goo ga-ga eyes. So yes, I agree that local men hate on foreign men being very successful with their women.

Now, what I meant to say is that here in the states, I never see any guys hating on foreign men for being successful with women, I may see men hating on any man regardless if he is a local or not for stealing a girl form him. However, nothing to do with the fact that he is Russian, Jewish or Canadian. He could live down the street for all he cares.

I for one, do not hate on any gringo, Russian, Canadian, Argie or any guy from EU or LA coming to Miami or any state and getting some puntang. I give props to any guy who can pull a ONS from a club or local doggie park. I wish he was one of my wings if anything.

So, I think this hate the foreign playboy shit is only for guys OUTSIDE the US. Granted, there will always be a cock-blocker or 2, but notice how its the women cock-blocking men in the US, and not other men here in the US.

But I guess, maybe I don't see the message because I never feel I own any women. Seriously, I don't feel that at all. I catch and release, and move on to my next bang. I don't have sisters or a daughter either, but I do have lots of female cousins and most are very attractive.

Mixx

Post: #38

(12-30-2010 09:57 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-30-2010 09:54 AM)Moma Wrote:  When I went to Winnipeg (which has a high native indian population), I saw nothing but that square ass shape. Big Obelix guts and non existent ass..no matter how much weight these lizards would put on, it would go straight to the gut and the back but leave the ass as flat as my ironing board.

Damn man...you just made me lose interest in Winnipeg!!!

Mixx

There are a lot more other women there besides just natives. Not all natives have that shape. Some are mixed with European blood (natives really like to fcuk, they are dysfunctional like that) and this helps dilute that survivor round look.

The girl I was piping out there, had a bisexual native roommate that was extremely attractive. I didn't even know she was native. I made the comment about the native shape and she said "Hey watch it, I'm native"
I rubbed my leg on her for a bit hoping to pique her bisexual side (she was at that time still investigating women and I was hoping to swing her back to men).

I was also piping a slice from St Sault Marie who's mother was native or part native or whatever and this female was really pretty. In fact, I thought she was latina or something. I can still remember when she took my colonel into her sloppy maw for the first time...

But I'd love to go back there, I am almost certain that you can fcuk like a champion out there. Sadly, Canucks don't seem to be that interested in travelling within their own country.

I hear you can also fcuk well in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. I had a piece out in Nova Scotia so I wasn't able to test the market beyond her but she was a straight freak so maybe that's testimony to the culture out there.
There are a few latin males out there as well, shipped in from Cuba by the locals and once those guys get in, they will of course start fcuking other dimes (which only makes sense).

Conclusion: Many natives are hot and most of them love to fcuk.

Post: #39

(12-30-2010 10:16 AM)MiXX Wrote:  @Moma. Wait I think I sent the wrong message on my post. It's not that I don't agree that it happens, and is a big problem and security concern when banging local women in foreign countries.

When I was in Slovenia, every local guy I saw game me heavy dirty looks, and even tried the infamous old-west style stare down dead in my eyes to show Alpha-ness many times. Some even screamed shit I did not understand at me - which probably saved me from many fist fights with local Slovenian men as their women gave me goo-goo ga-ga eyes. So yes, I agree that local men hate on foreign men being very successful with their women.

Now, what I meat to say is that here in America, I never see any guys hating on foreign men for being successful with women. I for one, do not hate on any gringo, russian or Canadian, Argie or any guy form EU or LA coming to Miami or any state and getting some puntang.

So, I think this hater shit is only for guys OUTSIDE the US. Granted, there will always be a cock-blocker or 2, but notice how its the women cock-blocking men in the US, and not other men here in the US.

Mixx

Ok, I see and I gauge that as well. From my understanding in the US, people are too busy getting money and there are so many women in the US, muthafukas don't have the time to be hating on one instance when there are so many other females available.

However, the key is, how tightly knit are you to your culture and your community? Do you come from an open culture or is it conservative? How tight is your game?

Men who can't get multitudes of women regularly will be very bitter when they see another man coming in and slaying his women willy nilly on the strength of being exotic. Many don't like others to eat if they cannot eat.

I'm not sure how the melting pot effect works on different cultures in the US but I know that here in Pleasantville, I have other cultures look at me in a certain way when they've seen me gaming on their females. The fact that I stand out doesn't help.

Even myself honestly, as a younger man, I had a bit of a problem with it (other cultures successful with my own women) but that's cos I struggled to get women that I was attracted to (limited game) and it cut me seeing the women i was attracted to being piped out by some other perp.

But now, I honestly don't give a royal shyt.

Post: #40

Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole. Anyway it has its pluses and minus' as darker people are often seen as less wealthy by Mexicans. So while being black they won't really like you, you are still far and away less likely to be jumped/robbed/etc. Prosti's will also charge you about $20 more and some won't do you at all.

Post: #41

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole. Anyway it has its pluses and minus' as darker people are often seen as less wealthy by Mexicans. So while being black they won't really like you, you are still far and away less likely to be jumped/robbed/etc. Prosti's will also charge you about $20 more and some won't do you at all.

Damn, like that??

Post: #42

(12-30-2010 09:57 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-30-2010 09:54 AM)Moma Wrote:  When I went to Winnipeg (which has a high native indian population), I saw nothing but that square ass shape. Big Obelix guts and non existent ass..no matter how much weight these lizards would put on, it would go straight to the gut and the back but leave the ass as flat as my ironing board.

Damn man...you just made me lose interest in Winnipeg!!!

Mixx

Honestly man, I'm a Canadian. Winnipeg is the fucking asshole of Canada. Avoid it.

Post: #43

(12-31-2010 03:05 PM)Cruatha Wrote:  

(12-30-2010 09:57 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-30-2010 09:54 AM)Moma Wrote:  When I went to Winnipeg (which has a high native indian population), I saw nothing but that square ass shape. Big Obelix guts and non existent ass..no matter how much weight these lizards would put on, it would go straight to the gut and the back but leave the ass as flat as my ironing board.

Damn man...you just made me lose interest in Winnipeg!!!

Mixx

Honestly man, I'm a Canadian. Winnipeg is the fucking asshole of Canada. Avoid it.

I think that Moma's posts are spot on here. I wouldn't go as far as to say that Winnipeg should be avoided or it is really that bad. Besides Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto; Winnipeg is your best bet for beautiful Women (I'd even say proportionately it has one of the best ratios in Canada and better than Vancouver). With good ratio's, Im not sure why you'd want to avoid it. It's not the nicest looking place but it doesn't look like a dump ( a la Detroit, Cleveland, Flint, and Gary).

That being said, if you choose to visit a Canadian city, Winnipeg isn't first on your list (or for that matter on your list at all).

It is however, a second tier Canadian city that you can swoop fine women relatively easy. By the way, Moma lives in Canada and I'm Canadian as well.

I'd say the same thing about Cali, Colombia or for that matter Manizales. These places don't look nice at all and are really boring, but the women are great and they can party out there (in Cali). I wouldn't say that you should avoid it. If your motive is to swoop, I'd say go because it would be make sense.

If you want an all in one vacation, I don't think that Winnipeg is worth it.

Post: #44

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole.

This is actually a positive because you know whether she's interested sexually in you instantly. If I am talking to a Mexican chick(from Mejico not Americanized) and she's being very friendly I know right off the bat that I am at least getting a blow job out of it, I can't say the same about American chicks. American chicks, specially if they are from the suburbs or small towns will talk to you for hours, give you her phone #, go out on a date with you and yet have zero sexual interest in you or any intention of fucking you.

In addition, I don't need every hot Mexican chick to wanna fuck me, only one or two for the trip duration will do.

Post: #45

(01-01-2011 11:16 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole.

This is actually a positive because you know whether she's interested sexually in you instantly. If I am talking to a Mexican chick(from Mejico not Americanized) and she's being very friendly I know right off the bat that I am at least getting a blow job out of it, I can't say the same about American chicks. American chicks, specially if they are from the suburbs or small towns will talk to you for hours, give you her phone #, go out on a date with you and yet have zero sexual interest in you or any intention of fucking you.

In addition, I don't need every hot Mexican chick to wanna fuck me, only one or two for the trip duration will do.

Yeah, I would agree with that. Although, as far as hooking up with non-working girls in Mexico goes, I think you will have quite some trouble. In my experience(which is limited, outside of TJ) most Mexicans have pretty strong catholic roots and don't really fuck around with you unless you're their "boyfriend". Even some of the working girls can be against sexual positions other than missionary as it some how makes them feel more slutty. Not sure how that works? This is just my experience though and I do have pretty awful game, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone else had the complete opposite opinion.

But back on topic. If anything, being black, you should be safer traveling in Mexico.

Post: #46

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole. Anyway it has its pluses and minus' as darker people are often seen as less wealthy by Mexicans. So while being black they won't really like you, you are still far and away less likely to be jumped/robbed/etc. Prosti's will also charge you about $20 more and some won't do you at all.

There was a guy here(can't remember who it was now) that did a trip report on Monterrey and said it's pretty good for black dudes. Monterrey has a lot more of the Spanish-blood Mexican girls, btw. Might want to look that thread up for info.

I don't have any experience approaching in Mexico, but my guess from what I know of Mexicans is that it probably would be a more challenging place for the bruddas. I'd avoid the smaller towns where it's more traditional. I think the best shot is going to be the larger more cosmopolitan places like Mexico City which has immigrants from all the world and Guadalajara. You'll find people with freer lifestyles and not so confined by tradition. When I was in Puerto Vallarta, I met this African dude that was on vacation with his Mexican girlfriend. He was a French teacher living in Mexico City.

Mexicans are pretty racist, but like most Latins, I think it's more of a colorism per se than a hard racism like you see with neo-nazis. The racism is Latin America is really weird. They can be racist, but still be friendly to the people they are racist against. I know a Peruvian woman whose mom would flip if she married a black guy, yet her mom is completely sweet toward me and I'd never guess she thought that way. I think it has to do with wanting their kids to be light-skinned since being dark in Latin America is associated with being socially and economically disenfranchised. Anyways, I wouldn't let it stop me, there are definitely Mexican girls that are open to it as you will find people in any society that don't mind crossing the color line.

Post: #47

(01-02-2011 03:44 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(12-31-2010 06:31 AM)Qtip Wrote:  Mexicans are pretty racist. They talk shit on anyone darker than them especially fellow Mexicans. So being black your the bottom of the totem pole. Anyway it has its pluses and minus' as darker people are often seen as less wealthy by Mexicans. So while being black they won't really like you, you are still far and away less likely to be jumped/robbed/etc. Prosti's will also charge you about $20 more and some won't do you at all.

There was a guy here(can't remember who it was now) that did a trip report on Monterrey and said it's pretty good for black dudes. Monterrey has a lot more of the Spanish-blood Mexican girls, btw. Might want to look that thread up for info.

I don't have any experience approaching in Mexico, but my guess from what I know of Mexicans is that it probably would be a more challenging place for the bruddas. I'd avoid the smaller towns where it's more traditional. I think the best shot is going to be the larger more cosmopolitan places like Mexico City which has immigrants from all the world and Guadalajara. You'll find people with freer lifestyles and not so confined by tradition. When I was in Puerto Vallarta, I met this African dude that was on vacation with his Mexican girlfriend. He was a French teacher living in Mexico City.

Mexicans are pretty racist, but like most Latins, I think it's more of a colorism per se than a hard racism like you see with neo-nazis. The racism is Latin America is really weird. They can be racist, but still be friendly to the people they are racist against. I know a Peruvian woman whose mom would flip if she married a black guy, yet her mom is completely sweet toward me and I'd never guess she thought that way. I think it has to do with wanting their kids to be light-skinned since being dark in Latin America is associated with being socially and economically disenfranchised. Anyways, I wouldn't let it stop me, there are definitely Mexican girls that are open to it as you will find people in any society that don't mind crossing the color line.

Vale, I'm mexican spanish and one of my areas of study is the sociology/racism and everything that goes in latin-american culture, so let me explain a little bit.

Mexicans are traumatized because of two things, the conquest by Spain and the loss of more than half Mexico by the US. Ironically, they LOVE the gringo and european look, they discriminate the AMERINDIAN look, the short(5ft) big head, no neck guy that you can see as a waiter in Cancun, you can hear them call them: Pinche Indio.

Even if you are college educated, smart, etc. you can't get a job if you look amerindian, is like that.

Mexicans are no racist with blacks, I know a lot of mexican girls that would gladly fuck Kanye West. You can hear a lot of guys call a friend hey "negro" but is not a racist way, is just the way that they call each other. The dark skin are the "negro" or "prieto" while the blonde is called "güero" and the asian "chino", in a friendly way though.

Mexicans are racist to Guatemaltecos, Salvadoreans and Hondureños. Not African Americans.

If you're more interested:
http://www.hispanicvista.com/HVC/Columni...robles.htm

Post: #48

Look, what I said, quote from an article:

"Still, in Mexico and other parts of Latin America, people operate with a different comfort level when it comes to physical attributes. It remains common for Mexicans to use nicknames like "Chino" for someone with almond-shaped eyes, "Negrito" for someone with dark skin, "Gordo" (Fatso) for a plump person.

These terms are jarring when seen through the prism of U.S. sensibilities, but here they are usually used in a context of affection and friendship"

Of course the brothers are going to be more comfortable and lucky in the Big 3(Mexico City, Monterrey and Guadalajara) + Puebla and the beaches.

Post: #49

To the OP, if your still interested in going to Mexico I say go for it. The exchange rate is pretty good and I doubt you'll encounter any drama. I've spent time in every major U.S. border city Ciudad Juarez, Laredo, Mexicali and TJ and had success in all of them even with my basic spanish at the time, even had a couple single night lays. I went to several nightclubs and never experienced anything like cockblocking from the locals, maybe a few looks but nothing worth paying attention to. I never went to guadalajara but I've heard nothing but good things about the city, I even had a chica invite me to stay with her out there but didnt have the opportunity.

Post: #50

(01-02-2011 10:06 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  To the OP, if your still interested in going to Mexico I say go for it. The exchange rate is pretty good and I doubt you'll encounter any drama. I've spent time in every major U.S. border city Ciudad Juarez, Laredo, Mexicali and TJ and had success in all of them even with my basic spanish at the time, even had a couple single night lays. I went to several nightclubs and never experienced anything like cockblocking from the locals, maybe a few looks but nothing worth paying attention to. I never went to guadalajara but I've heard nothing but good things about the city, I even had a chica invite me to stay with her out there but didnt have the opportunity.

What do you look like? Are you teh typical white/tall/blonde foreigner. or Are you tan skin, latin looking?