Post: #1

Noticed this in the paper this morning, which says to me as far as the law is concerned , its OK for a woman to have her ways sexually with a man without his permission but if a man did this to a women he would be charged with sexual assault

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south...6690475090

Notice how her lawyer says she has no case to answer.....with out permission is sexual assault isn't it....oh wait not if your a women doing it.

thoughts?

Post: #2

(08-04-2013 05:28 PM)loki Wrote:  Noticed this in the paper this morning, which says to me as far as the law is concerned , its OK for a woman to have her ways sexually with a man without his permission but if a man did this to a women he would be charged with sexual assault

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south...6690475090

Notice how her lawyer says she has no case to answer.....with out permission is sexual assault isn't it....oh wait not if your a women doing it.

thoughts?

What a tool. Being woken up by a woman sucking my dick is one of my biggest fantasies - why complain? I will marry the girl that wakes me up like this every morning. What were they even doing sleeping in the same house if she's so despicable he won't even let her blow him anymore? He must really hate her to not only turn down the blowjob but bring it to court. LOL

Post: #3

I bet the guys had a good laugh at the station. I wish some chick woke me up like that.

Post: #4

My position on "sex crimes" can be summed up thusly:

No Harm, No Foul.

Post: #5

for the record, many years ago , a skank i was seeing at the time decided she was going to have her way with me while i was sleeping off a rave from the night before. I woke up with her riding me on top with no condom on....and i ended up with an STD because of her doing that to me.

needless to say I was not happy about that and although waking up to being sucked off or fucked is a nice thought, getting an STD out of it is not.

So as you can see doing such a thing to a bloke can have negative consequences, lucky for me it was just an STD and not AIDS!

Post: #6

(08-04-2013 09:11 PM)loki Wrote:  for the record, many years ago , a skank i was seeing at the time decided she was going to have her way with me while i was sleeping off a rave from the night before. I woke up with her riding me on top with no condom on....and i ended up with an STD because of her doing that to me.

needless to say I was not happy about that and although waking up to being sucked off or fucked is a nice thought, getting an STD out of it is not.

So as you can see doing such a thing to a bloke can have negative consequences, lucky for me it was just an STD and not AIDS!

You must have some impressive self-restraint for not killing that lizard.

Post: #7

(08-04-2013 09:42 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 09:11 PM)loki Wrote:  for the record, many years ago , a skank i was seeing at the time decided she was going to have her way with me while i was sleeping off a rave from the night before. I woke up with her riding me on top with no condom on....and i ended up with an STD because of her doing that to me.

needless to say I was not happy about that and although waking up to being sucked off or fucked is a nice thought, getting an STD out of it is not.

So as you can see doing such a thing to a bloke can have negative consequences, lucky for me it was just an STD and not AIDS!

You must have some impressive self-restraint for not killing that lizard.

she wasn't worth the time but I did shame her in public and let everyone in our social circle know she had an STD but telling her to her face in front of a group at the club.

fuck her, dirty skank bitch.

Post: #8

As great as it is to be woken by a blowjob, I'd probably be pretty pissed off too, if it was my 49 year old ex-wife doing it.

Yes, it's a double standard, but I just can't get outraged about it.

Post: #9

(08-04-2013 09:11 PM)loki Wrote:  for the record, many years ago , a skank i was seeing at the time decided she was going to have her way with me while i was sleeping off a rave from the night before. I woke up with her riding me on top with no condom on....and i ended up with an STD because of her doing that to me.

needless to say I was not happy about that and although waking up to being sucked off or fucked is a nice thought, getting an STD out of it is not.

So as you can see doing such a thing to a bloke can have negative consequences, lucky for me it was just an STD and not AIDS!

Yeah, I've woken up to women straddling my cock unprotected too. Pisses me off as it's usually the girls you aren't all too keen to bang without a condom. They just jump their eager beaver right on that shit.

Sucks you got a souviener out of the deal...

Post: #10

There are a couple of problems with this. Yes, a double standard exists within our society in that the majority embraces "feminism", but then treats what men do to women differently to what women do to men. I mean, it's hardly any great revelation that feminism doesn't do what it says on the tin.

On the other hand, men and women are actually different; part of being red pill is understanding and accepting that. The trauma rape inflicts on women, and the fear they have of being raped is an evolutionary response to what would have been a real threat to their progeny 20,000 years ago. No such threat existed for men; in fact, even if they were 'raped' by the most sub-standard specimen, it would probably be to their benefit. Twenty minutes of their time, and a packet of semen which constantly regenerates is a lot less of an investment than 9 months gestation, and risk to one's life. If you want a real male equivalent to women being raped, being cuckolded and spending your productive years bringing up children that aren't your own is about the same (imo).

Post: #11

(08-05-2013 10:03 AM)Ocelot Wrote:  There are a couple of problems with this. Yes, a double standard exists within our society in that the majority embraces "feminism", but then treats what men do to women differently to what women do to men. I mean, it's hardly any great revelation that feminism doesn't do what it says on the tin.

On the other hand, men and women are actually different; part of being red pill is understanding and accepting that. The trauma rape inflicts on women, and the fear they have of being raped is an evolutionary response to what would have been a real threat to their progeny 20,000 years ago. No such threat existed for men; in fact, even if they were 'raped' by the most sub-standard specimen, it would probably be to their benefit. Twenty minutes of their time, and a packet of semen which constantly regenerates is a lot less of an investment than 9 months gestation, and risk to one's life. If you want a real male equivalent to women being raped, being cuckolded and spending your productive years bringing up children that aren't your own is about the same (imo).

If you want to talk about evolutionary psychology, you could just as well argue that we did not evolve to hyper-analyze our behavior in terms of natural selection.

I do think the manosphere spends far too much time talking about evolution. For example, Heartiste looks at everything through an evolutionary prism.

Frankly, I think it's misguided. In philosophy there's a centuries old debate over the "is-ought" issue and the naturalistic fallacy. Basically, the question is this: just because something is, does that automatically mean it should ought to be? So in this case, even if the sexes evolved a certain way, should we blindly endorse the difference as virtuous?

To take the rape example - let's be clear. Most animals, including primates, rape as a matter of course. Animals as widely separated in evolutionary time as Komodo dragons and Bengal tigers mate the same way: the male forcefully pursues the female and imposes himself on her by biting and scratching her. In fact, this is likely the origin of the female rape fantasy. But simply because rape "is" a fact of human biology, does that make it right? And by the same token, just because men and women may process rape differently, should the law privilege women as a result?

Maybe, but simply demonstrating the evolutionary origins of some behavior or social practice shouldn't settle the issue.

Post: #12

(08-04-2013 05:28 PM)loki Wrote:  Notice how her lawyer says she has no case to answer.....with out permission is sexual assault isn't it....oh wait not if your a women doing it.

thoughts?

And don't overlook the journalistic double standard.


When a man is accused of rape his name, his fiance's name and his occupation are detailed for all to see:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manha...obinsource


But when a woman is convicted of rape, her identity is still kept secret by the press:
http://blogcritics.org/woman-convicted-of-rape/


In your article, even her lawyer's name is kept out of the press.

Post: #13

(08-05-2013 10:28 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  To take the rape example - let's be clear. Most animals, including primates, rape as a matter of course. Animals as widely separated in evolutionary time as Komodo dragons and Bengal tigers mate the same way: the male forcefully pursues the female and imposes himself on her by biting and scratching her. In fact, this is likely the origin of the female rape fantasy.

The fact that many animals rape as a matter of course isn't really relevant to humans. Quite a lot of social primates (who humans are far more closely related to than bengal tigers) punish rape severely within their packs.

(08-05-2013 10:28 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  But simply because rape "is" a fact of human biology, does that make it right? And by the same token, just because men and women may process rape differently, should the law privilege women as a result?

Maybe, but simply demonstrating the evolutionary origins of some behavior or social practice shouldn't settle the issue.

The point is that rape is not just a fact of human biology - it's something humans have always severely punished within their own tribes, because it's harmful to individual women and to the collective; That's not really true when it happens to men. The flip-side is that, regardless of who a guy fools around with, his wife always knows the child she gives birth to is hers. Hence most societies punishing female infidelity more severely than male.

To be clear, I'm not saying evo psych should be the basis of a system of morals; that's for a whole other debate. It's relevant that men and women process rape differently, though, when deciding how it should be punished; especially in the developed world, where the damage done is usually purely psychological. Why would you punish men and women identically for a crime that damages them differently?

Post: #14

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