Post: #26

(08-01-2013 03:53 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  Maybe we should talk about how to game American Men lol (def not for bang)

'hey bro, you got a lighter?' and then start rambling, sounds about right?
At the end of the conversation, tell him, 'hey man, you seem like a cool buy, hit me up if you want to grab a drink sometime, take my number'

Repeat till you have couple guys who actually contact you?

It's such a weird feeling if a guy doesn't contact you. 'He's just not that into you'

LOL

Holy shit, this is basically the entire premise of 'I love you man'

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Post: #28

Thanks for the tips guys, a lot of the tips I have tried already but the ratio of success to failure on this is higher than I would talking to girls.


Oh well

Post: #29

Wait...so now i have to game guys too? Fuck that.

Post: #30

Meeting guys shouldn't be that hard. You can go to a happy hour with people from work, join a group on meetup.com, join an adult rec league...in all those cases you share a common interest already. Just hang out, find the guys you're more in line with, and see if he's up for hanging out. Unless one of you is acting like a weirdo, there's nothing strange about it and it's natural to want to form a roving gang.

If you want to get into an LTR or get married, this is especially important or else you'll get seriously pussy whipped. I've seen this too many times, one friend of mine stopped hanging out with us, spent all his time with his wife (b/c she had no friends of her own), and now is completely at her whim even though he was totally alpha before. On the other hand, my bandmates have been in bands since teenagers and are in complete control of their household (we call it the pimp-hand). I suggest reading "The Way of Men" or "No More Mr. Nice Guy" about the importance of male friendship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0siRMEEY8rc

Post: #31

Ask question, or advice about shit. Just be able to relate, and you'll make friends in no time.

Post: #32

good post id imagine it'd be quite hard to make guy friends for example if you're new in town with no social circle but I think its a worthwhile investment to get a good group of mates who you can just chill with have a laugh etc

Post: #33

In my experience it takes about 1-2 years to find a group of guys if you're starting from scratch in a new town.

Here's what I do when I move to a new city:
1) Find a regular bar. Pick one that has cool bartenders who you would want to have a drink with. Go often, make sure to routinely go on one particular night. Follow the advice on how to lock a place down (talk to the staff, tip well, etc.).

2) Find a hobby. Probably the quickest way to make superficial friends. You'll have male company but often times the relationships don't go any deeper than discussing mutual interests (i.e. not where you're going to find the dudes you'd call if you needed to get bailed out of jail).

3) Find a gym. Again, get a regular routine, go the same days and times every week. Talk to the staff, etc.

You'll eventually get to know people. If you target a particular neighborhood to spend most of your time in you'll start to see the people you know from the gym/bar/etc. out in public and if you're cool they might include you in whatever they're up to that day. It's through those kinds of interactions that you'll meet their friends and eventually you'll meet some people you click with.

Post: #34

I have a theory that gay culture has made it harder for adult men in Western countries to make new friends. When homosexuality was completely repressed and taboo, guys didn't have to worry about seeming homo.

It was so off the realm of the socially acceptable that you didn't have to be on guard against it. The gradual entry of homosexuality into the mainstream, to the point where the media projects an image of gays making up a huge proportion of people, makes guys wary about being misinterpreted as gay.

Post: #35

Sometimes I get frustrated when it comes to meeting a guy.

Saw this guy at a bar, standing by himself. He looked creepy but I didn't judge him since I was there by myself too. he started talking to me first and seemed like a decent guy.
I didn't ask for his contact info but he gave me his business card.

Next weekend, I txted him saying I will be at the same bar and he could join me.
Didn't hear from him. When I ran into him again, he was saying 'oh that night I got drunk blah blah'
Maybe I should've waited more than a week not to appear as 'needy?' lol

Does this happen to you occasionally after you exchange info with guys at a bar?

Post: #36

(07-31-2013 01:28 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  I find American guys similar to American women.

You can't show them obvious interest. you should just say 'hey if you wanna grab a beer sometime, hit me up' and give him Your number.

You have to contact them just like when contacting chicks, otherwise they will freak out and run away. you need to give them a 'space'. you can't hit them up all the time unless you guys grew up together.
they do not like 'desperate guys' who are looking for friends. Just like girls, they like guys who already have many options.

Been told i'm too "intense" by Americans who coincidentally are always lame squares. As the old saying goes "Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind".

Post: #37

(08-12-2013 07:37 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  I have a theory that gay culture has made it harder for adult men in Western countries to make new friends. When homosexuality was completely repressed and taboo, guys didn't have to worry about seeming homo.

Its not just about seeming homo. Ive had dudes that I thought were friends trying to kino me after a short while. Now I get paranoid that any new bros are trying to get my dick, which makes me not want to make any new guy friends any more.

Post: #38

(08-12-2013 10:52 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:37 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  I have a theory that gay culture has made it harder for adult men in Western countries to make new friends. When homosexuality was completely repressed and taboo, guys didn't have to worry about seeming homo.

Its not just about seeming homo. Ive had dudes that I thought were friends trying to kino me after a short while. Now I get paranoid that any new bros are trying to get my dick, which makes me not want to make any new guy friends any more.

Dude, what are they gonna do, rape you? I have gay friends. I tell them, "I'm not gay," and they back off.

Don't be weak around anyone, men or women.

Post: #39

If I keep a bi/gay dude in my circle they will always find an "accidental" way to touch me. I threatened 1 dude and took another aside and calmly talked to him and neither of them stopped.

Post: #40

(08-12-2013 11:32 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  If I keep a bi/gay dude in my circle they will always find an "accidental" way to touch me. I threatened 1 dude and took another aside and calmly talked to him and neither of them stopped.

Touch you? Depends on where you're being touched. Light touching above the waist and below the chin I wouldn't consider gay.

Post: #41

I wouldn't worry about getting kino from a gay/bi dude.

In fact, they're probably better at it than you. I learned how to effectively kino from a bi friend of mine.

Post: #42

This is an interesting thread because I've had a hard time making guy friends. There are a couple cool older men at my work (my boss and a coworker old enough to my father)... But the only friends I've been able to maintain are in my weekly table top RPG sessions. I'm too busy at work, my family, or my master's degree to have much other time to meet new people.

That said, I'm getting into shooting and hunting, so able hopeful to widen my circle of contacts if nothing else.

Post: #43

LOL - Most of the guys I have ever become social with were when I was out gaming suited up solo in upscale venues and who also had skillz. When a women asks if I am alone my standard line is "Turkeys flock, Wolves pack and Eagles hunt alone!"

Then I look her in the eye and say "I assume you are an eagle too" - many times it is what I use to bounce her to the next private martini bar venue so she cuts from the Turkey birds she had been with. Several have written their numbers on the back of my hand as they were the designated driver or some such nonsense.

Post: #44

I meet guys all over. I'm pretty social overall now. Often times it's simply, "hey man, let's get a drink and continue our conversation later". If you're just chill and cool a guy will be for it. Some guys will not, some will be a little over eager (you can tell they don't have many friends - that's not necessarily a sign against them, just that they need to get out a bit).

Usually it's just being social and getting into a very interesting conversation. I have a couple buddies I play video games with, the rest, I go out and hang with at coffee shops/etc, grab a drink, etc, more commonplace things. Drawing a comparison to an instant date, chillin with a guy that you've got a good vibe with, just be like, "hey, I'm going to grab a drink and some food, you want to join?" I find that's the best way to build a relationship with a guy. You feel a bit more of a bond, and then it's less weird to be like, "hey, what's your number."

Post: #45

If you're just chill and cool a woman will be for it. Some women will not, some will be a little over eager

Basically it's the same to game guys?

(08-21-2013 08:32 PM)Plutoman Wrote:  If you're just chill and cool a guy will be for it. Some guys will not, some will be a little over eager

Post: #46

Ha.

Post: #47

(08-12-2013 07:37 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  I have a theory that gay culture has made it harder for adult men in Western countries to make new friends. When homosexuality was completely repressed and taboo, guys didn't have to worry about seeming homo.

It was so off the realm of the socially acceptable that you didn't have to be on guard against it. The gradual entry of homosexuality into the mainstream, to the point where the media projects an image of gays making up a huge proportion of people, makes guys wary about being misinterpreted as gay.

The vast majority of human civilization has been accepting or at least tolerant of homosexuality. It's really only in the last century (mostly the recent portion of it) that homosexuality has been truly taboo.

Seeming homo? Have you seen how much rampant hipster/effeminate young guys we have?

I think this whole "not wanting to seem homo" thing is only a problem for guys who have issues with their masculinity or homophobia. Having close male friendships is important, don't let some preconceived notion of what OTHERS might think of you affect your life.

Post: #48

(08-12-2013 07:37 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  I have a theory that gay culture has made it harder for adult men in Western countries to make new friends. When homosexuality was completely repressed and taboo, guys didn't have to worry about seeming homo.

It was so off the realm of the socially acceptable that you didn't have to be on guard against it. The gradual entry of homosexuality into the mainstream, to the point where the media projects an image of gays making up a huge proportion of people, makes guys wary about being misinterpreted as gay.

Nah. This is bullshit.

If you are comfortable and confident, you won't have problem meeting other guys like you. And, those are the guys you want to hang with because they probably have game.

Real men can tell the difference between homos and straight guys immediately. You need more experience.

Post: #49

I don't even care if people think I'm a homo when I'm with a guy friend. Fuck em. You think I'm a homo? Go suck some cock, bitch.

Post: #50

Fuck having guy friends. They are after the pussy, thus making them the enemy. I punch most guys I see.