Post: #1076

What do you guys think about Jermall Charlo? The reason why I ask is that I have the chance to be in the sixth row of his fight against Austin Trout at the Cosmopolitan for a really cheap price. Some, but definitely not all, sportsbooks will be taking bets on that and I really have no idea how the odds will be. I think Trout is really underrated. He has two losses, Alvarez and Lara, both by decision and the Alvarez fight was really competitive. He also beat Cotto decisively. I say Charlo beats Trout fairly comfortably and if the odds are half decent, I will go.

Post: #1077

(03-17-2016 06:02 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(03-02-2016 07:06 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 07:46 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 06:45 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 03:48 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  What do you guys think about Alvarez/Khan? The online odds haven't change since my last post. I'm thinking something similar to Danny Garcia's fight with Khan with Khan doing really well for a few rounds, then getting caught by something big and getting stopped around the fifth round. Half on Alvarez and half on the Alvarez by knockout prop.

I'll preface this by saying all of you guys are older and more experienced than me in this thread, but based on what I've seen in past fights, I would be hesitant to predict a knockout by the 5th round.

The reason is not Khan, but rather Canelo himself. I have no doubt he will win, but he seems to wait guys out enough that the 5th round knockout could become the 7th, 8th, etc. I enjoy watching him but I find myself silently urging him to "take the safety off" and really unload more.

This is a really good post. Alvarez actually seems to carry some guys who are much worse than him, see Matthew Hatton and Ryan Rhodes. Khan is better, maybe much better, than those two guys. One of the big problems Khan has is that he can't take a punch as well as many of Alvarez's previous opponents. That's why a fifth round knockout seems like a real possibility to me. All that being said, I won't be surprised if it goes ten rounds or even if it goes the distance. I would be surprised, frankly shocked, if it goes the distance and Khan gets a decision.

Tickets are available directly from the box office though http://www.axs.com. $1,500 plus fees for the best seats which the box office sells (not the best seats in the house) and $250.00 for the worst seats which are still available. The $150.00 nosebleed seats are all sold out. I really don't think it's worth it and will probably just pay like $80.00 to $100.00 to watch it at Hyde Bellagio or something. That $1,500 comes out of my winnings and still wouldn't get me in the first five rows or anything.

The $250.00 seats are now sold out, so the cheapest available are $400.00. The most expensive seats are all still available. I don't see it selling out until really close to fight night, if at all. Is anyone else going?

The Mandalay Bay Events Center and Diablo's Cantina at the Monte Carlo are both now selling tickets for the Alvarez/Khan viewing party. Around $75.00 including all taxes and fees. Diablo's is probably a decent place, but will be a complete zoo getting in and out of on fight night because Monte Carlo is right where the new arena is. I'd prefer to watch it at either Hyde Bellagio or the Mirage as they are both pretty close to my bank and there shouldn't be nearly as much congestion at that part of the strip.

Post: #1078

(01-31-2016 01:35 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-31-2016 01:15 AM)The Father Wrote:  Kovalev killed tonight. "I would fight more rounds and make him more pain". This is one edgy dude. I hope Andre Ward hasn't lost any of his skills with his long layoffs...that could be one HELL of a fight! Can't guess a winner until I see how Ward looks in his two tune-ups this spring and summer. But Kovalev is peaking now.

Ward/Kovalev is really tough to pick a winner in. It will be a good deal all around with Ward starting out as a slight favorite. I would take Kovalev and the over rounds knowing full well that I could very well lose the part bet on Kovalev. I wouldn't have to break the bank to make a good profit on thst one. If Ward gets a decision, I should be able to break even or only lose a little bit of money.

This supposed negotiation between Golovkin and Dominic Wade and Wade being Golovkin's mandatory makes no sense. Wade has never made 160 in his entire career. Not once.

So we saw how quickly Golovkin demolished Wade.

Now with the updates about Kovalev vs Ward, I find myself going back and forth over who would win.

In terms of Ward's previous fights, who would compare to Kovalev's power?

In terms of Kovalev's previous fights, who would compare to Ward's technical mastery?

Hard to weigh these factors convincingly.

Post: #1079

^^^
Ward, healthy and well trained, would beat Kovalev on Kovalev's best day pretty easily, in my opinion. As Ward presently is, I think Kovalev/Ward would be a toss-up, especially with Ward moving up in weight. No safe or smart bet in that one. Also, remember this, Ward has never lost anything since age twelve, or maybe even earlier than that.

Post: #1080

I'm in Las Vegas now and the odds on both an Alvarez knockout and the fight not going eleven full rounds are excellent. Am I missing something here? After I make a trip to the bank in the morning, I may make the odds a little worse.

Post: #1081

(05-06-2016 01:25 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm in Las Vegas now and the odds on both an Alvarez knockout and the fight not going eleven full rounds are excellent. Am I missing something here? After I make a trip to the bank in the morning, I may make the odds a little worse.

I was trying to talk myself into the fight, but something I saw on the most recent 24/7 convinced me Khan should get KTFO.

1. Canelo's trainer saw Khan getting KO'ed against García, and remarked that Khan's defense mostly consists of blocking punches, not necessarily dodging them. That is, his upper body movement is lacking, so he's not hard to find. And Canelo is relatively accurate.

2. Apparently Khan was getting touched up in sparring, and his trainer Virgil Hunter straight up told him 'if you get hit like the way you're getting touched today, you're getting knocked out.' Well then.

Post: #1082

(05-06-2016 01:35 AM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 01:25 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm in Las Vegas now and the odds on both an Alvarez knockout and the fight not going eleven full rounds are excellent. Am I missing something here? After I make a trip to the bank in the morning, I may make the odds a little worse.

I was trying to talk myself into the fight, but something I saw on the most recent 24/7 convinced me Khan should get KTFO.

1. Canelo's trainer saw Khan getting KO'ed against García, and remarked that Khan's defense mostly consists of blocking punches, not necessarily dodging them. That is, his upper body movement is lacking, so he's not hard to find. And Canelo is relatively accurate.

2. Apparently Khan was getting touched up in sparring, and his trainer Virgil Hunter straight up told him 'if you get hit like the way you're getting touched today, you're getting knocked out.' Well then.

My plan is to put half on an Alvarez knockout and half on it not going eleven full rounds. This way, I'm partially protected if the fight ends in a technical decision or if hell freezes over and Khan stops him.

Post: #1083

Reports of Mayweather vs. McGregor boxing mega-fight are false. But I hope it happens.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/5/6/1160...Redirect=1

Post: #1084

I'm at the weigh in. All the girls here are horrible grenades. I've never seen anything like it.

Post: #1085

(05-06-2016 03:32 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm at the weigh in. All the girls here are horrible grenades. I've never seen anything like it.

Are you going to the fight?

Post: #1086

(05-06-2016 03:51 PM)Chowder Head Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 03:32 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm at the weigh in. All the girls here are horrible grenades. I've never seen anything like it.

Are you going to the fight?

Yeah.

Post: #1087

Damn. Nastiest knockout I've seen since pacquiao.

Post: #1088

I was really worried about that one until Alvarez caught him. I thought Khan fought great at least for the first four rounds. No idea why they gave me almost even odds on an Alvarez knockout. Right before fight time, the odds on an Alvarez knockout were all the way up to -300 so I guess a lot of people did the same thing as I did, but placed their bets really late.

Post: #1089

Yea I agree. He was fighting a really good fight and it looked as if he was going to win. He got caught with that overhand right. Looked like he was getting tired at the end of the 5th round.

Post: #1090

I made gifs from some youtube video-wow!

Post: #1091

This has been the most predictable fight in a long time. The same exact thing happened to Khan in the Danny García fight. He was pretty much schooling García until he got hit with a hook.



In this fight, Khan wasn't dominating Canelo, he was just barely winning the rounds. He was also falling for a lot of Canelo's feints, because Canelo was expertly switching it up from body to the head. The KO punch came from a 1-2 feint. Khan was protecting his body a lot throughout the fight too, which is a testament to Canelo's power because you know his first priority is to cover up that glass chin. It was just a matter of time before Canelo caught up to Khan and he made one of his defensive mistakes, which he always makes.

I have to give Canelo credit though. He did what he had to do. This convinces me even more that he didn't go all out against Cotto, for whatever reason. That punch that knocked out Khan was thrown with murderous intent, he did not go for the homerun like that against Cotto. His punch was also extremely fucking accurate, no luck involved here like others said about García. Just pure skill and power.

And finally, what fucking balls Canelo has. It's impossible not to like him. When Golovkin came up to the ring he said he called him up. "We don't fuck around. In boxing we fight for honor and glory. I'm not afraid of anyone in this sport. (Does this mean you'll fight Golovkin later this year?) I'll put the gloves on right now." That right there is a fucking warrior.

Post: #1092

^^^
Boxing writers just like to create a lot of unnecessary drama for some reason. We're getting Golovkin/Alvarez, likely in September and very likely at AT& T Stadium or whatever's it's called. These same writers were the ones saying Mayweather would never fight Pacquiao or Alvarez.

Post: #1093

^^ To writers' credit, I don't think it's usually fighters that avoid other fighters. The term 'marinate' comes purely from promoters interested in building up fights before tossing their cash cows to pasture. Like Juanma and Gamboa years ago... they both wanted to fight each other desperately, but Bob Arum decided to 'marinate' it and Salido fucked Juanma up. That's why ODLH was hesitant to confirm a fight with GGG before this Khan KO. It's a dangerous-ass fight for Canelo and could stop the gravy train.

I also don't think it's 'unnecessary' drama, since it obviously builds up promotion and translates to more $$ all around, I'd think.

But I think Canelo is ready to make it competitive with GGG. His chin is truly awesome, his defense is underrated, and he can crack. He'll do a lot better than Lemieux, I would think. Could be a seriously epic fight.

Post: #1094

Khan being Khan.

As predictable as night following day.

Post: #1095

A weak pawing jab and no movement will get you KTFO against the likes of Canelo

Post: #1096

Saw the replay on HBO. Good fight.

Kahn was pretty classy I think in the loss. Except the part where he and his trainer call out Canelo to fight GGG.

Post: #1097

Virgil Hunter, Andre Ward and Amir Khan's trainer, former Oakland probation officer had (unprotected) sex with R&B star Keyshia Cole's drug-addicted, prostitute mother 34 years ago and is Keyshia Coles biological father? Wow.
Talk about holes in your defense, Virgil.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/16/116...her-virgil

Post: #1098

Alvarez vacated the title. The chances of Golovkin/Alvarez happening at this point are slim and none. I really have no problem with that. I'll make money on the Alvarez/Cotto rematch if it happens and possibly make money on Golovkin/Jacobs or Golovkin/Saunders if either of those fights happen and if they allow proposition bets.

"In my eyes a man who vacates a world title is a shit bag."
-Billy Joe Saunders

Post: #1099

(05-18-2016 07:45 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Alvarez vacated the title. The chances of Golovkin/Alvarez happening at this point are slim and none. I really have no problem with that. I'll make money on the Alvarez/Cotto rematch if it happens and possibly make money on Golovkin/Jacobs or Golovkin/Saunders if either of those fights happen and if they allow proposition bets.

"In my eyes a man who vacates a world title is a shit bag."
-Billy Joe Saunders

I think it will happen, just not this year. ODH and Alvarez have a lot of low-hanging fruit to pick first - Cotto rematch (easy), David Lemieux (fun fight but Canelo too skilled for him), possibly a Pacquiao fight (might be tougher for him than he thinks). I also wouldn't be surprised if a Mayweather rematch materialized. They'll say it's for the "lineal Middleweight championship"; no one cares about belts. 4 belts?!? When everyone is champion, no one is champion.

Canelo is a guy who can make $10M fighting a janitor. Meanwhile, GGG will knock out Danny Jacobs and a few other stiffs. By fall of 2017, they'll meet and it will be huge, after all the buildup and wait. Canelo will make GGG take 35% of the gate - and he'll be happy to get it!

Post: #1100

Please tell me this isnt true.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/20/117...50-million

http://www.mmamania.com/2016/5/24/117602...-weeks-mma

Mayweather vs McGregor in September. True or hype?