Post: #1

This summer in Berlin has been fucking wicked. I tripped up about a month ago and got real needy with this LTR I have going at home, and I've begun employing new tactics to get that hamster spinning again, and it's working well enough that I'm thinking about 24/7 100% application.

Posting as many pictures with fly girls on facebook as I can is an obvious move, but spacin them out so the flow looks constant and non-"player."

But text messaging I always botch because I type incredibly fast and have ADD (okay actually this is totally a personal weakness). I'm always too needy and eager to talk, even at the gogo club in poznan, or waiting in line at berghain.

So I've implemented these rules and they really help.

Response Thresholding based on Response Ratio

The basic idea is, you reply to a girl every [number] of texts she sends you, based off reply ratio. Some people may automatically do this, but I have to have rules to follow, or I engage emotionally and thwart my own game.

# of texts she sends % of time she replies to your text*
before you reply
1 100%**
1.5 80%
2 50%
3 30%
4-never 20%

Girls in bold are best to drop unless mass texting or have banged
*Obviously estimated. As a rule of thumb, if a girl ignores you bump her up one category.
**I start girls here and wait for them to flake or ignore me. Any girl you've banged this week/2 weeks/month should be here.

This heuristic is best applied to large pipelines, or incredibly small ones. I don't calculate this ratio, but in my contact details I put a bracketed number next to the name (don't let bitches look at your phone). This lets me know immediately if she is trying hard enough for me to reward her. You can't text a girl 1.5 times... give her a quick reply here and an hour or so wait there.

Does anyone else use this tactic? For that matter are LTRs ever worth preserving after you make a mistake? What are your strategies for texting game?

EDIT*** Incidentally how would one tab space tables on this forum?

Post: #2

I say this soley to help you out, so I hope you don't get defensive:

You are way too analytic about this shit

It's a turn off for both men and women, and comes across as try hard. That might be a reason no one has replied to this yet.

I'm considering doing a thread on this (PUA vocab, overgaming, quantifying fallacies, etc) if people are interested.

Don't look too hard for math in game. Formulas are for people who want to turn life into a science, but game is an art, it has exceptions, flexibility, and spontaneous twists.

I studied Psych, so I understand the appeal of trying to box things into heuristics, but we can't be too academic about this shit.

You clearly have some one-itis to deal with.

You're also getting excited about discovering ways to categorize your new knowledge, rather than absorbing more experiences and letting it process during the journey.

Also, there's no need to refer to girls as bitches, lizards, etc.

The more you make someone into the "other" whether it's sex, ethnicity, etc. the less open you will be to learning more about them.

The goal is not to narrow down a statistical system for reply ratios, but rather have a pipeline or harem of such high quality that you reply and make plans solely of your own convenience and desire.

I'm currently working on this with girls in 3-4 different cities.

Yes, it's good to get a handle on which ones need more attention, or respond to texts/calls more frequently. But there's no need to be a perfectionist about that stuff, since you will look back in ___ years and realize that the foundations of self improvement and game were much more important. It is often more beneficial to be a solid generalist than a hyper-specialist when it comes to social skills.

Post: #3

Use the text messaging scheduling. This feature is built into Android 4.1 or you can use a text messaging scheduler app. I use it to make my response time match that of the girl. If she took 15 mins to reply to my text I respond right away BUT I schedule it for 18 mins in the future. I also use it to send a text the next day if it's late in the night.

Post: #4

(07-23-2013 02:53 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  I say this soley to help you out, so I hope you don't get defensive:

You are way too analytic about this shit

It's a turn off for both men and women, and comes across as try hard. That might be a reason no one has replied to this yet.

I'm considering doing a thread on this (PUA vocab, overgaming, quantifying fallacies, etc) if people are interested.

Don't look too hard for math in game. Formulas are for people who want to turn life into a science, but game is an art, it has exceptions, flexibility, and spontaneous twists.

I studied Psych, so I understand the appeal of trying to box things into heuristics, but we can't be too academic about this shit.

You clearly have some one-itis to deal with.

You're also getting excited about discovering ways to categorize your new knowledge, rather than absorbing more experiences and letting it process during the journey.

Also, there's no need to refer to girls as bitches, lizards, etc.

The more you make someone into the "other" whether it's sex, ethnicity, etc. the less open you will be to learning more about them.

The goal is not to narrow down a statistical system for reply ratios, but rather have a pipeline or harem of such high quality that you reply and make plans solely of your own convenience and desire.

I'm currently working on this with girls in 3-4 different cities.

Yes, it's good to get a handle on which ones need more attention, or respond to texts/calls more frequently. But there's no need to be a perfectionist about that stuff, since you will look back in ___ years and realize that the foundations of self improvement and game were much more important. It is often more beneficial to be a solid generalist than a hyper-specialist when it comes to social skills.

You're definitely right on all counts, I don't take offense. Yesterday (before I read your post) I broke things off with this girl and went on an insta-date with three girls I let draw dicks on my arm in the u-bahn to the lake. Wine was consumed. 2 makeouts. Dick was touched. And really it was just fun... It felt nice to let go a little of this relationship for a while I've been completely basing my happiness off of. I won't bore the forum with the story (typical recurring first girlfriend) but you sir, are correct.



That being said text message scheduling sounds like exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. A little vindictive

Post: #5

(07-22-2013 02:42 PM)BecomingMachine Wrote:  But text messaging I always botch because I type incredibly fast and have ADD (okay actually this is totally a personal weakness)
So I've implemented these rules and they really help.

# of texts she sends % of time she replies to your text*
before you reply
1 100%**
1.5 80%
2 50%
3 30%
4-never 20%

I usually prefer to just roll a 1d20 for attack and 1d8 for damage with my bastard sword of nerdiness against a thac0 17 of HB7 (banged once). Then I roll on the treasure table

For crying out loud

Post: #6

This is what I do. If I've banged her before she gets top priority.
Everyone else is 2nd priority.

This is what you do:

Find out when she works. Day or night time. Some girls work fast food, bars or whatever.

If you're a regular 9-5 guy then send her a text during the day. Your nights are reserved for
gaming at bars and clubs. Only reply at night if there is a legitimate chance of banging

Text her during the morning. She replies. You wait until lunch to reply.

If she replies in the afternoon, wait til after 5 to reply.

If she replies after 5, wait til the next morning to reply.

Don't have full conversations of text. Go back and forth a little bit and set the date.
"Listen I have a meeting in a few minutes and I need to finish a report. Let's meet for drink later."

After you bang, bump her up to first priority and reply to her texts right away.

Post: #7

(07-24-2013 02:28 AM)BecomingMachine Wrote:  You're definitely right on all counts, I don't take offense.

Sounds good, take those first steps (but no more dick drawings).

Keep us posted too

Post: #8

(07-24-2013 01:31 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

(07-22-2013 02:42 PM)BecomingMachine Wrote:  But text messaging I always botch because I type incredibly fast and have ADD (okay actually this is totally a personal weakness)
So I've implemented these rules and they really help.

# of texts she sends % of time she replies to your text*
before you reply
1 100%**
1.5 80%
2 50%
3 30%
4-never 20%

I usually prefer to just roll a 1d20 for attack and 1d8 for damage with my bastard sword of nerdiness against a thac0 17 of HB7 (banged once). Then I roll on the treasure table

For crying out loud

Point taken. You seem friendly and helpful.