Post: #1

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/18/...-30-years/

Quote:More than one million people were murdered in Brazil between 1980 and 2011, making it the world's seventh most violent country, a survey showed Thursday.

During the period, homicides soared 132 percent to claim 1,145,208 lives, from a rate of 11.5 murders for 100,000 inhabitants in 1980 to 27 per 100,000 in 2011, according to the Map of Violence report,

Among those aged between 14 and 25, homicides skyrocketed 326 percent to reach 53 per 100,000 inhabitants, said the study published by the Latin American Studies Center (Cebela).

In 2011, Brazil, now home to 194 million people, recorded 51,198 homicides, ranked seventh among the world's most violent nations after El Salvador, the US Virgin Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, Venezuela, Colombia and Guatemala.

From 2007, the study highlighted a resumption of a surge in violence after a drop in the previous decade, attributed mainly to public disarmament policies.

The survey showed that violence in Brazil, once concentrated in major metropolitan areas such as Sao Paulo and Rio, has spread nationwide over the past 10 years to the hinterland of most states, especially in the north, a trend that coincides with the expansion of new economic hubs.

In Maceio, capital of northeastern Alagoas state, homicide rates reached 111 per 100,000 inhabitants in 2011 (288 among the young), 10 times higher than in Sao Paulo.

The study also showed most murder victims are men (women represent only eight percent of the total) and blacks (the number among them surged 30.6 percent to 35,297 in 2011 compared with a 26 percent fall among whites to 13,895 that same year.

Some 77 percent of young people murdered were Afro-Brazilians in a country where nearly 52 percent of the population is of African descent.

Some 206,000 homicides were recorded in the country between 2008 and 2011.

"This magnitude cannot be attributed to the continental size of Brazil," the study warned, pointing out that among the world's most populous countries, only Mexico comes close to Brazil with 22 homicides for 100,000 inhabitants.

The figures are one for 100,000 in China, 3.4 in India, 5.3 in the United States and 12.2 in Nigeria.

The authors of the study blamed impunity (only five to eight percent of crimes are solved in Brazil compared with 80 percent in France) and insufficient efforts to combat a prevailing culture of violence.

And contrary to a popular belief in recent years, most murders in the country are not linked to organized crime and drug trafficking but are perpetrated for trivial or impulsive reasons, they said. [quote]

Post: #2

5-8%? Someone obviously does not give a shit. Bizarre.

Post: #3

I'm shocked at that kind of death toll.

I'm also kind of surprised (and very cautiously pleased) not to see my country in the top 7. I would have bet on Jamaica coming out ahead of Brazil. Trinidad and El Salvador I expected to see, but I had no idea that the US Virgin Islands were so deadly.

Post: #4

I'm not surprised by these statistics at all. Brazil has always been a monumentally violent place. Best to stick to the touristy areas and respect the locals.

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Post: #6

After US Virgin Islands? Really? I don't know if I buy it. I mean I've never been, but I've also never heard of it being dangerous. I could be wrong but that was shocking to me.

Post: #7

This thread could easily be re-named: Don't go to BZ

Post: #8

Yeah but it never seemed that way when I was there. When you watch the news yes, but day to day life no.

Post: #9

Things that happened that I can remember off the top of my head when I was in brazil...

1) in the favelas, traffickers shot down a police helicopter with a rocket launcher.

2) a Brazilian man robbed a foreigner who I believe had something to do with the peace corp. he shot him, robbed his shoes, hat, and wallet. A minute later police show up, take the stuff from the robber, let the robber go and leave the victim there to die (and yes he died). It was all caught on camera.

3) they found a dead baby but couldn't figure out why it died. When conducting the autopsy, they found hundreds of tiny needles in the kid from someone practicing voodoo in Bahia.

Pretty fucked up shit. I'm sure there was a lot more terrible stuff, but those are just three things I can remember off the top of my head. If you think the news in the states is depressing, shit, tune into Brazilian news and American news seems like an episode of friends.

Despite all that brazil is still my favorite place on earth (at least that I've experienced).

Post: #10

I think the murder rate will decline rapidly for the next couple of years, as Brazil will host the world cup in 2014, and the Olympics in 2016. There will be ton's more security.

Post: #11

(07-19-2013 04:25 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  1) in the favelas, traffickers shot down a police helicopter with a rocket launcher.

Post: #12

Justice, the problem with security in brazil is they are under paid. Most police have a price. That's a huge issue. Corruption is just as much of the problem as the crime itself.

Post: #13

Hasn't anybody seen City of God?

Post: #14

I've always been a Brazil skeptic. All their economic growth is commodity driven, their education levels are a joke compared to the countries that they hope to catch up to.

Post: #15

(07-19-2013 12:15 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  I'm shocked at that kind of death toll.

I'm also kind of surprised (and very cautiously pleased) not to see my country in the top 7. I would have bet on Jamaica coming out ahead of Brazil. Trinidad and El Salvador I expected to see, but I had no idea that the US Virgin Islands were so deadly.

Me too, I heard that Jamaica has the highest murder per capita in the world so to not see it on the list makes me question who did the research behind that list.

Post: #16

(07-19-2013 01:11 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  Justice, the problem with security in brazil is they are under paid.

That is a problem, but not the major one, imho. The problem with security in Brazil is that the government does not want to solve it. When the drug gangs in the favelas can shoot down helicopters and can terrorize Rio (and basically impose a curfew) at their will, then they are challenging the state. The state should have the monopoly of violence, and anyone who challenges it openly is, by definition, an enemy combatant.

The government could and should declare martial law, send the military into the favelas and destroy them completely. Kill anyone who offers resistance. Arrest all the males and put them in all-male work camps. Break the community by relocating all the women and children to the middle of nowhere, say, in Roraima, and make them work for bread. No work, no food. If someone cannot earn a living independently, the state will provide, but that someone will become an official serf of the state. Anyone engaged in organized crime will be brutally killed by the security forces. Crime does not pay when the state is strong and willing to use its strength.

Why doesn't the government do this? Partly because the military itself is composed of the same subhuman trash that dwells in the favelas. This is what happens when a racialist caste-based society is slowly transformed into a U.S.-style democracy: zero social trust, ethnic tensions, and inability to solve problems due to the possibility of an all-out racial war.

In the meantime, law-abiding citizens of all skin colors and social classes will continue to be hunted down and killed by the Morlocks because the government is too weak to solve the problem. Brazil has a problem, which is low-intensity civil war, and it has existed for decades.

Post: #17

Brazil needs to get themselves a "Brazil's Most Wanted" TV show for their repeat offenders. I heard that America's Most Wanted has a capture success rate close to 50%.
Anyhow, get rid of all the repeat murderers and crime ought to go down significantly.