Post: #651

Quote:There were girls there that would put victoria secret models to shame. I posted this earlier, but I was just frozen and couldn't approach for about almost 90 minutes.

I've experienced this with ladies nights in Poland. There is just so much pussy, and as a Western man you are so rarely (as in never) put into that position, that you freeze for a while.

Post: #652

ROFL..
""They want to leave to go eat and try to get us to go, and I defer to my buddy but tell him nothing good ever comes from going to eat with a bunch of girls."

At least you learned that...

What made the blonde friendly to you and NOT all those other guys? Do you think she smelled your LA(usa) identity?

As for buddies blonde she probably thought you guys would rape her or something . The uneven ratio probably sobered her up.

Post: #653

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/102250...ussia.html

"Russian cars shrink as one leaves the capital, and hairstyles get weirder"

Post: #654

(08-25-2013 11:59 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:  What made the blonde friendly to you and NOT all those other guys? Do you think she smelled your LA(usa) identity?

As for buddies blonde she probably thought you guys would rape her or something . The uneven ratio probably sobered her up.

Those guys had no game. Since I was sobering up at almost 7am I was able to better pay attention and those guys were just "there" for these drunk girls. The nonbangable one had her arms all over one of the guys, so it's surprising he didn't even try to bring her home. And after the bangable blonde found out we shared the same NY town she was very into it.

Hilarious about the rape, but I think the momentum was just killed. A girl vomiting right next to you sometimes does that.

Post: #655

(08-23-2013 01:14 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 12:03 PM)slubu Wrote:  It's the weekend, he's ready to rock and roll. I'm excited for Moscow to come alive!

Slu, how many nights a week are you rolling out?

Do you booze heavy?

How have you been maintaining this intensity?

From my perspective and what I've seen here in Moscow, Slubu and his buddies work rate is off the charts. They are literally out drinking almost every night with just a few days off for dates on Monday-Tuesday. They are completely focused on working the ladies and don't get sidetracked once they are out. And while they are drinking, they don't get too wasted (unlike me ) and are having fun and putting out a good vibe. As they have been 'winging' each other for years they are totally in sync too - his buddy has pointed out some things I needed to do as a wing when we've been out that I wasn't paying attention to our just missed. Pretty interesting to watch it go down and its motivated/inspired me to go out more and work harder.

I have been out a few times with them at clubs and as I start wearing out around 3-4 they are just getting going!!

The 'last man standing' rule definitely applies here and if you have that kind of energy and the abilty to stay up until 6-7am I think you're going to be rewarded many times. But it's a lot of work and they have been doing this for months. In discussing this with them over the weekend I think it definitely gets to a point where your body is just a bit broken down and it gets progressively harder as the weeks/months roll on. I assume you just start to get a little rough around the edges and have to really drag yourself out there and get motivated some nights, but will leave it to Slubu to opine.

Post: #656

(08-25-2013 08:40 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:There were girls there that would put victoria secret models to shame. I posted this earlier, but I was just frozen and couldn't approach for about almost 90 minutes.

I've experienced this with ladies nights in Poland. There is just so much pussy, and as a Western man you are so rarely (as in never) put into that position, that you freeze for a while.

I experience this a fair bit at the clubs and the intital disbelief still hits me even after 4+ years here.

As Slubu said, on Saturday my girl was sort of drunk and tired and wanted to go home so unfortunately I missed this - wish I could have seen this army of beauties!!

Post: #657

There is no way I could do what slubu and his buddy are doing. Hell after going out 2 nights, I feel like taking a break. Can't imagine how they did 3 months straight. Super solid gamers. In Moscow, things really appear to start going around 2-3 am and on, which is obviously closing time in most of US (NYC excepted).

Post: #658

Did you & your buddy do this trip to meet a Russian girl you could bring home to the US, or strictly get laid?

Post: #659

(08-26-2013 12:56 AM)Menace Wrote:  There is no way I could do what slubu and his buddy are doing. Hell after going out 2 nights, I feel like taking a break. Can't imagine how they did 3 months straight. Super solid gamers. In Moscow, things really appear to start going around 2-3 am and on, which is obviously closing time in most of US (NYC excepted).

I feel the exact same way. I'm a mess after 2 nights out over the weekend, can't imagine doing it for months on end.

It always amazes me how things really start getting going here after 2am - that's when the party really starts for the most part and the locals are all in it for the long haul. I think most of the younger ladies who come in from the outskirts of the city stay out so late due to the fact that the metro opens up at 6am and cabs are just too expensive for most of them, so that definitely helps.

Post: #660

Akula and Menace are probably a bit too kind with their words, but even my buddy and I recognize the kind of insanity we practice in terms of how much effort, time and cost (both money and health) we put into this. I took last night "off", and by that I mean I invited over the SNL from Thursday, had 3 whiskey/cokes, 4 cigarettes and went to bed at 3am.

@Courage, not a goal to wife up and bring one back to the US. We are fluid with our goals, depending on the city. Siberia was to try and fuck, in Moscow I honestly came with the goal of finding a hot mini-gf for the 3 weeks here. Well I found one, but she flew out the day after I banged her so that went out the door. Plus it took a while for me to get things going, and really it hasn't been that much success in terms of quantity. Quality however Moscow has been pretty high. Even the SNL from Thursday had an amazing body, cute face absent some bigger teeth than I'd like.

Also, it's not always great for both of us in any given city. My buddy has yet to even make out with a single girl here in Moscow. I actually think the whole Tomsk girl situation threw off his vibe, in that in the back of his mind he was always waiting for that few days where she would come out, and I saw it in his approaches. He was less aggressive than usual. And sometimes it's just the city. In Oslo, he was getting handjobs by 6ft model-type Norweigian girls while chubby chunkster chicks were telling me to stop invading their personal space. You never know.

Finally, Menace you need to promise me that next weekend you will go out no matter what the circumstances. I don't care if you somehow contract leprosy, have a 19yo Russian girl begging to blow you all weekend or get robbed and have no cash and have to panhandle several hours a day to raise sufficient money to visit the clubs. (OK maybe not the 19yo, but you get my point.) You HAVE to see what Moscow is like on the weekends at the right places, it's a once in a lifetime thing. Don't deprive your eyes and memory of such a sight.

Post: #661

(08-26-2013 03:25 AM)slubu Wrote:  My buddy has yet to even make out with a single girl here in Moscow.

As I already said, some guys just click with slavic women, and some others don't. It's IMO as simple as that.

Post: #662

(08-26-2013 03:25 AM)slubu Wrote:  Finally, Menace you need to promise me that next weekend you will go out no matter what the circumstances. I don't care if you somehow contract leprosy, have a 19yo Russian girl begging to blow you all weekend or get robbed and have no cash and have to panhandle several hours a day to raise sufficient money to visit the clubs. (OK maybe not the 19yo, but you get my point.) You HAVE to see what Moscow is like on the weekends at the right places, it's a once in a lifetime thing. Don't deprive your eyes and memory of such a sight.

Yeah, I will.

Post: #663

(08-26-2013 03:25 AM)slubu Wrote:  Akula and Menace are probably a bit too kind with their words, but even my buddy and I recognize the kind of insanity we practice in terms of how much effort, time and cost (both money and health) we put into this. I took last night "off", and by that I mean I invited over the SNL from Thursday, had 3 whiskey/cokes, 4 cigarettes and went to bed at 3am.

@Courage, not a goal to wife up and bring one back to the US. We are fluid with our goals, depending on the city. Siberia was to try and fuck, in Moscow I honestly came with the goal of finding a hot mini-gf for the 3 weeks here. Well I found one, but she flew out the day after I banged her so that went out the door. Plus it took a while for me to get things going, and really it hasn't been that much success in terms of quantity. Quality however Moscow has been pretty high. Even the SNL from Thursday had an amazing body, cute face absent some bigger teeth than I'd like.

Also, it's not always great for both of us in any given city. My buddy has yet to even make out with a single girl here in Moscow. I actually think the whole Tomsk girl situation threw off his vibe, in that in the back of his mind he was always waiting for that few days where she would come out, and I saw it in his approaches. He was less aggressive than usual. And sometimes it's just the city. In Oslo, he was getting handjobs by 6ft model-type Norweigian girls while chubby chunkster chicks were telling me to stop invading their personal space. You never know.

Finally, Menace you need to promise me that next weekend you will go out no matter what the circumstances. I don't care if you somehow contract leprosy, have a 19yo Russian girl begging to blow you all weekend or get robbed and have no cash and have to panhandle several hours a day to raise sufficient money to visit the clubs. (OK maybe not the 19yo, but you get my point.) You HAVE to see what Moscow is like on the weekends at the right places, it's a once in a lifetime thing. Don't deprive your eyes and memory of such a sight.

To Slubu and Akula - would be great for a short list of the top 10 or 20 Moscow venues by quality of ladies and DTF bangability and best night for that venue say 1 to 5 system 5 being best 1 worst a 5 club would be best - the hottest ladies but with an aloof superior attitude would rate a 5-1 on Thursday (Locals Night in most Cities) or on Saturday a 5-5 if the surrounding area hotties take the Metro in and stay till 6PM looking for fun in Moscow but with sexy more DTF attitudes. So a Venue could be a 5-1 on Thursday or 5-5 on Saturday... just as an example. Should Probably mention the Feis Kontrol difficulty as well. Of course suiting up and rolling with a Russian Body Guard service could mitigate Doorman Attitude as well.

Post: #664

(08-26-2013 03:50 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  To Slubu and Akula - would be great for a short list of the top 10 or 20 Moscow venues by quality of ladies and DTF bangability and best night for that venue say 1 to 5 system 5 being best 1 worst a 5 club would be best - the hottest ladies but with an aloof superior attitude would rate a 5-1 on Thursday (Locals Night in most Cities) or on Saturday a 5-5 if the surrounding area hotties take the Metro in and stay till 6PM looking for fun in Moscow but with sexy more DTF attitudes. So a Venue could be a 5-1 on Thursday or 5-5 on Saturday... just as an example. Should Probably mention the Feis Kontrol difficulty as well. Of course suiting up and rolling with a Russian Body Guard service could mitigate Doorman Attitude as well.

You guys think too much. There's scorable girls everywhere in Moscow. Daygame, nightgame wtf ? ... a guy who doesn't score in Moscow is simply a loser.

Post: #665

The streets are teeming with clunge and if it were not for Moscow I probably would have never made the executive decision to improve my day game. Slubus stories remind me of my own up hill struggle and subsequent downfall from all the late nights and drinking. I got lucky twice like Slubu but quickly realised the physical and mental turmoil I was putting myself through at the age I am now was literally sapping me of all my man factor. I arrived fresh in Kiev and promised myself only 2 nights out a week. I put my ego on the line but it resulted in better quality girls that I could not get within arms reach at the club. Ofcourse you are playing a numbers game but its some how more wholesome and naturally more rewarding than waking up with a sore head. I like to party as much as the next man but I notice a similar voice in some of your latter posts.

Post: #666

(08-26-2013 03:55 PM)Prosal Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 03:50 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  To Slubu and Akula - would be great for a short list of the top 10 or 20 Moscow venues by quality of ladies and DTF bangability and best night for that venue say 1 to 5 system 5 being best 1 worst a 5 club would be best - the hottest ladies but with an aloof superior attitude would rate a 5-1 on Thursday (Locals Night in most Cities) or on Saturday a 5-5 if the surrounding area hotties take the Metro in and stay till 6PM looking for fun in Moscow but with sexy more DTF attitudes. So a Venue could be a 5-1 on Thursday or 5-5 on Saturday... just as an example. Should Probably mention the Feis Kontrol difficulty as well. Of course suiting up and rolling with a Russian Body Guard service could mitigate Doorman Attitude as well.

You guys think too much. There's scorable girls everywhere in Moscow. Daygame, nightgame wtf ? ... a guy who doesn't score in Moscow is simply a loser.

Moscow is that easy?

Post: #667

Moscow is for blonde/brunette slavic archetype women. I don't think its that "easy" especially for ONS, but long-term(2-3 weeks) getting at least 1 girl should be a layup for almost anybody.

For somebody w/game+language+funds, you'll have more than you can handle. But thats the case virtually anywhere in the world...

Post: #668

(08-26-2013 03:25 AM)slubu Wrote:  Also, it's not always great for both of us in any given city. My buddy has yet to even make out with a single girl here in Moscow.

(08-26-2013 03:55 PM)Prosal Wrote:  a guy who doesn't score in Moscow is simply a loser.

Post: #669

"You guys think too much. There's scorable girls everywhere in Moscow. Daygame, nightgame wtf ? ... a guy who doesn't score in Moscow is simply a loser."

Problem might be they don't day game,cafe game (he also maybe doesn't suit up?)its simply a showdown with other drunk guys to score drunk women.His Buddy is also a NON white I think. But his GAME is off because Slubu didn't tell any tales of him lifting girls off the floor since they hit Moscow. I hear that's his trademark..so if he isn't doing it its time to worry a bit..

To rephrase "a guy who doesn't score in Odessa is simply a Winner". Means you be coming home with a full wallet, No Aids and No STD'S.

Post: #670

Quote:You guys think too much. There's scorable girls everywhere in Moscow. Daygame, nightgame wtf ? ... a guy who doesn't score in Moscow is simply a loser.

Yes, this is a forum of men who think too much. You haven't figured that out yet? Even easy places must be broken down with surgical precision, down to the street level. If you don't like it, then I'm sure there are other forums will guys don't think as much.

Post: #671

(08-26-2013 05:03 PM)DVY Wrote:  Moscow is for blonde/brunette slavic archetype women. I don't think its that "easy" especially for ONS, but long-term(2-3 weeks) getting at least 1 girl should be a layup for almost anybody.

For somebody w/game+language+funds, you'll have more than you can handle. But thats the case virtually anywhere in the world...

DVY, how many places have you been to? Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

Post: #672

(08-26-2013 07:16 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 05:03 PM)DVY Wrote:  Moscow is for blonde/brunette slavic archetype women. I don't think its that "easy" especially for ONS, but long-term(2-3 weeks) getting at least 1 girl should be a layup for almost anybody.

For somebody w/game+language+funds, you'll have more than you can handle. But thats the case virtually anywhere in the world...

DVY, how many places have you been to? Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

I agree with DVY for the most part with the game+language+funds, but the X factor is also looks. If you look like Sloth in Goonies you can have those three and you probably wont get very far. DVY, we have met and I would say we both have above average looks and height which I wont discount makes things easier in any corner of the world.

Looks is one of the things on the forum that I think is not factored in enough when considering others' success as most people aren't interested in rating themselves. If I don't know what you look like, its tough for me to tell you how will do. I could kill it in a place, and you could strike out, and vice versa.

We all talk about being suited up, etc, which is trying to put our best foot forward in the looks department, but the hand we were dealt with our natural looks also plays a large part and in some cases we blame it on the purple sweater, game wasn't right, etc, when it might very well be that simply she wasn't attracted to you.

(08-26-2013 07:16 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

Without seeing DVY or anyone else, I don't think you can make the statement above. I haven't hit DC, but I have done what I thought was VERY well in Toronto which I outlined here:

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DVY could also do his thing in Toronto I'm sure without luck and social circle. Can't say for sure on DC, but I cant imagine it being as difficult as claimed...

Post: #673

(08-26-2013 08:05 PM)Qwest Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 07:16 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

(08-26-2013 05:03 PM)DVY Wrote:  Moscow is for blonde/brunette slavic archetype women. I don't think its that "easy" especially for ONS, but long-term(2-3 weeks) getting at least 1 girl should be a layup for almost anybody.

For somebody w/game+language+funds, you'll have more than you can handle. But thats the case virtually anywhere in the world...

DVY, how many places have you been to? Perhaps, I should take you out to Washington, DC clubs or Toronto and you would definitely retract your statement. There are places in USA where it is not enough to use game+language+funds, really you need game+language+funds+LUCK+social circle to score with 7+ girls due to massive bitch shields and insane competition.

I agree with DVY for the most part with the game+language+funds, but the X factor is also looks. If you look like Sloth in Goonies you can have those three and you probably wont get very far. DVY, we have met and I would say we both have above average looks and height which I wont discount makes things easier in any corner of the world.

Looks is one of the things on the forum that I think is not factored in enough when considering others' success as most people aren't interested in rating themselves. If I don't know what you look like, its tough for me to tell you how will do. I could kill it in a place, and you could strike out, and vice versa.

We all talk about being suited up, etc, which is trying to put our best foot forward in the looks department, but the hand we were dealt with our natural looks also plays a large part and in some cases we blame it on the purple sweater, game wasn't right, etc, when it might very well be that simply she wasn't attracted to you.

Actually in a FSU thread, looks really should lose priority. FSU chicks go for APPEARANCE more than any kind of NATURAL look. They also have a different standard of what they think a hunk is anyway and it usually isn't the Western version.
Being very good looking can actually work against you,But looking a million bucks will get you very FAR!
We have a Russian saying:
"Women don't look at the beautiful man, they look at the man with the beautiful women"

There are also other similar sayings.

Post: #674

Putin is a sex symbol in Russia, he looks like a troll. So obviously looks don't matter, women are more about status than the plastic look western girls go for.

I find it ironic that Klitschko (boxer) is dating an american actress and Schvenko (football) is married to an american woman.

Post: #675

(08-26-2013 08:18 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  Actually in a FSU thread, looks really should lose priority. FSU chicks go for APPEARANCE more than any kind of NATURAL look.

I'm not saying they don't lose priority, but don't be fooled that it doesn't matter. I'm not saying good looking and dressed like a bum versus ugly and dressed in a custom suit anyways.

(08-26-2013 08:18 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  Being very good looking can actually work against you,But looking a million bucks will get you very FAR!

I'll believe it when I see it, but ALL other things being equal, the better looking guy will win EVERY time. Looking like a million buck$ AND looking like a million bucks, you'll get laid a LOT.

Every country has ugly mofos who get hot chicks, but that's not the point.