Post: #1

Hey guys. I am new to the board.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on peacocking.

Do you guys use it when you go out? What types of things do you do?

For instance, do you wear certain clothes or jewelery that make youself stand out? Do you have visible tats? Do you ever wear boots to make yourself look taller? Do you change your hair style when you go out?

I have lately been considering various peacocking ideas since I tend to do my gaming in "meat market" type bars, and anything that can help me get attention from the ladies is generally a plus in such a venue. Hell, I have even considered changing my eye color with color contacts (LOL!).

Thoughts. Pros/cons.

Thanks.

Post: #2

I thought that Mystery Method peacocking stuff went out of fashion. The examples of peacocking I've seen look pretty stupid.



It might be cool if you're subtle about it. Like maybe a really cool hat that nobody else has or some kind of necklace or accessory that's eye catching that makes for a good conversation piece. But the full on peacocking you see those Mystery type dudes doing looks pretty dumb IMO.

Post: #3

"It might be cool if you're subtle about it. Like maybe a really cool hat that nobody else has or some kind of necklace or accessory that's eye catching that makes for a good conversation piece. But the full on peacocking you see those Mystery type dudes doing looks pretty dumb IMO."

You are right. Shouldn't go overboard with the peacocking or you will look like a fool.

However, I do see some guys who dress really hip, and this is a form of not-so-subtle peacocking in its own way.

I guess it all depends on if you can pull off the look.

Some guys, for example, can totally pull off the rocker look...while others look stupid for even trying it.

I was just wondering if you guys do any peacocking type things, and what specifically you do.

Post: #4

i guess it mostly depends on how comfortable you are with it

if other people notice you aren't, it will do a lot more harm than good

i don't think that peacocking alone is gonna get someone from having 0 results to laying hotties; other things are a lot more important: developing one's personality, being balanced, or even working out in a gym if you're out of shape

Post: #5

I think standing out is the idea.. I think he both looks gay and silly to the point I wouldnt wanna hang with him, but hey he is mythic, so I would be honored too, but its like this if you try to dress like a rock star your better be able to pull it of.. that also goes for the gay-SMS-captajn of soccery. You really have to look into your own venue and what class of women your gonna pull etc.
Women arent rational creatures and its undoubtly that it requires a pair of huge balls, or some serious personality disorder dressing up like that going out... fear of social rejection cant be an issues, but if you live in a small town somewhere I might consider your life long reputation before

Post: #6

"i don't think that peacocking alone is gonna get someone from having 0 results to laying hotties; other things are a lot more important: developing one's personality, being balanced, or even working out in a gym if you're out of shape"

Yeah, peacocking isn't going to take you from a zero to a hero, but it can make a difference at the margins. The whole reason I ask this question is that I recently started dressing differently (more hip), and I have been receiving more attention from the chicks. So peacocking has some truth to it.

I just wonder how much further I should take it.

I think I will experiment with different styles and see if I can get better results with more peacocking or less.

See, the thing is my "game" isn't that great, so I run heavily on looks. I only approach women who are giving me the eye since I am not that good at building attraction that isn't there.

So, I kind of need to have women notice me or else I am screwed.

Post: #7

"I think standing out is the idea.. I think he both looks gay and silly to the point I wouldnt wanna hang with him, but hey he is mythic, so I would be honored too, but its like this if you try to dress like a rock star your better be able to pull it of.. that also goes for the gay-SMS-captajn of soccery. You really have to look into your own venue and what class of women your gonna pull etc.
Women arent rational creatures and its undoubtly that it requires a pair of huge balls, or some serious personality diasorder dressing up like that going out... fear of social rejetion cant be an issues, but if you live in a small town somewhere I might consider you life long reputation before Big Grin"

I don't think I am going to go the "full Mystery" look just yet (LOL!), but something Mystery once said has stuck in my mind ever since. He said "If you dress like a rockstar, then women will treat you like a rockstar." Or something to that effect.

I do believe in game...but at the same time I have noticed that in "meat market" venues women will blow you out quickly if they don't find you "hot." There is just too much competition (dudes with air-tight game, very good looking guys, etc.).

I just wonder how much "juice" you can squeeze from peacocking before it has "diminishing returns"?

Post: #8

(09-07-2010 03:28 AM)Easy E Wrote:  See, the thing is my "game" isn't that great, so I run heavily on looks. I only approach women who are giving me the eye since I am not that good at building attraction that isn't there.

So, I kind of need to have women notice me or else I am screwed.

Get away from this mentality, quit using your looks as a crutch and just go talk to women. Women care faaaaarrrrrrr less about looks then you think they do, ask me, I am ok looking but I date and shag LOTS of VERY hot women, everyone always says, "I dont know how he does it", even my female friends So talk to them and dont worry about trying to build attraction, it will happen.

Next as for me, I like the more subtle peacocking, I have a nice armani neclace that is round piece of metal, ill wear a thumb or index finger ring and a high quality fake rolex or breitling.

Other then that if I peakcock its pretty crazy, I have worn a pink feather boa one that a girl threw on me (did crazy well with that) I was out on the jersey shore yesterday riding a flotation device that was a large yellow dog.

Just be ok with what you wear and try to be different.

Post: #9

(09-07-2010 03:28 AM)Easy E Wrote:  See, the thing is my "game" isn't that great, so I run heavily on looks. I only approach women who are giving me the eye since I am not that good at building attraction that isn't there.

So, I kind of need to have women notice me or else I am screwed.

I totally feel ya here. I suffer from the same exact predicament.

Post: #10

Game is about confidence. Dress to make yourself confident, and get in to the right frame of mind.

Post: #11

Peacocking shouldn't be about some gimmicky look that is in itself going to get you laid. It should be about standing out in the crowd, setting yourself apart, being interesting, or just looking good. Whether you're more GQ/gangster status (rocking nice watch, expensive Italian gold chain), or rocker style (tattoos, mohawk), or bomehian (crystal amulet, Laotian tribal shirt), the point is it's got to be congruent with who you are, your style, vibe, etc., or else you're just going to look like a "try hard poser." I never really got the whole mystery style peacocking thing with the goggles and that fuzzy top hat, but hey if it works for you and you can pull it off, more power to you, but in this day in age 95% of guys over the age of 21 will look dumb if they walk into a night club with goggles sitting on top their head.

Peacocking is never a foundation of game, so it's not something really worth thinking about too much or analyzing, it's one of those things that can factor in, or round out your game, when it comes to more important things like, style, swagger, vibe, image, etc. I'd say experiment with certain things that compliment your style whatever that is, I get flak from some of my homies because now a days I am kind of peacocking with more of a baller/GQ/gangster look, with the fat diamond earring, Omega watch, and dope Italian chain, but I have noticed more attention from the ladies. The point is as long as your look is "put together" your good, meaning that you don't look like a fool, you are comfortable with your style, it flows natural with your vibe, etc. For sure you don't want to look like every other guy, whether that be "douchey guido tap out shirt" wearing fool, or the "preppy flipped collar polo shirt" guy, but at the same time you don't want to just look silly and be the guy everyone is snickering at because you look like a fool.

Even if a girl digs your style, the vast majority of time the biggest IOI she'll give you is strong eye contact, which is good, but you will still have to approach, and kick some, some what decent game for her to continue the interest or build attraction, unless she just happens to think your the "bees' knees" and she wants your nuts, but generally this would be more due to strong physical attraction or high social value, then peacocking alone. I guess what I'm getting at, is that it would be very rare and unlikely that peacocking alone would ever get you laid, there is so much more that factors in. Your peacocking is really just bringing our your style/positive attributes and setting you apart from the crowd, with a more interesting/intriguing look. Savoy and those guys always preach that you should have "one interesting item" to wear when you go out, as "chick bait", because it gives the girl an opening to give you an IOI if she's interested, like "hey I like your necklace", and you say cool "I got it hiking in the Himmalayas when I was in Nepal", that sets off the convo where you portray your positive attributes as an explorer, traveler, etc., which gets her imagination going, makes you seem cool, interesting, exciting, and builds a connection.

Post: #12

You can subtle peacock just by making sure your belt matches your shoes, both are clean and cared for. Your shirt is wrinkle-free, etc. High-end cologne is subtle peacocking that I ALWAYS get compliments on.

I like wearing stylish cuff-links. When I go to Vegas I wear a pair of dice with zirconias on the faces. I have a nice set of fire opal ones for less-casual affairs. Women notice small details of "flair" like that.

You don't even have to spend a fortune, I actually found those Dice cuff-links in a Ross for $15. T.J. Maxx is cool too if your on a budget. I've found many designer fashions and accessories there, even watches.

Now that I think about it T.J. Maxx is a good place too if your a MILF hunter, lots of attractive, well-dressed 30-40ish year old ladies there.

Post: #13

I once was at a garden party at some embassy where they had a lady weave wreaths from laurel and give them out to people. So I was walking around greek-god style. Of course, that did not get me any attention, because every other person at that party was, too.
But when we later went to bar-hop, I was the only one of my friends who did not remove it, they all said it would look stupid, but that thing got me approached and opened by at least 5-6 girls. I was saying shit like I was at a male model photo shoot, or that I was a bastard child of Zeus, and whatever other stupid shit I could make up.
Too bad the thing shriveled and withered after two days, or I would have reused it.

Post: #14

Peacocking subtly is something i kinda like to do. Im big on my guaged earring, always some tasteful flashy piece of silver that ALWAYs gets complments, with people anywhere. Or sometimes ill pop out with a leather arm band or something, but the reason is b/c i like it, its not for teh bitches. But mainly it depends on the scene.

The thing is, my style is that everything i wear have a story to tell, in terms of accesories, since i pick them up on my travels, so i wear them for the memories and to get me back into the feeling i was in when i was away.

Post: #15

(09-06-2010 11:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I thought that Mystery Method peacocking stuff went out of fashion. The examples of peacocking I've seen look pretty stupid.



It might be cool if you're subtle about it. Like maybe a really cool hat that nobody else has or some kind of necklace or accessory that's eye catching that makes for a good conversation piece. But the full on peacocking you see those Mystery type dudes doing looks pretty dumb IMO.

sorry, if this is peacocking....I will not take part on that...look like complete fools to me.

I have read the Game and mystery method stuff, but if they really go out like this every time....makes it hard to believe they had success with the stunners.

Post: #16

Well women are crazy irrationel beings, just out to be emotionally entertained, so whatever makes her click is right, if you see some of the baafons chicks drag around, you know its not about what we may think, most peacocking is kinda gay -metro shit anyways. But alot of chicks dig it.

Post: #17

I like how this guy does it:
http://www.fluentin3months.com/random-accessories/

Post: #18

Peacocking is less about the accessory and gay fuzzy hat, and more about wearing something that will make you stand out.

It only is a demonstration of value if you're comfortable standing out.

That said, going to Mysterian lengths with it looks stupid, I don't care how many girls he fucked, he looks like an idiot. I peacock somewhat, I have a metal and wood necklace that a friend made me, I wear it over a button-up blown open. That and the occasional brightly colored t/dress shirt are as far as I take the whole concept.

Post: #19

I think its been pretty well wrapped up by most posters. But I got a few thoughts here..

I feel "peacocking" is for me atleast best when the old school guys did it. Masculinity, class, etc.

-IMO Most dudes peacock with clothes to over compensate for other shit.(Just look at mystery..his arms are like a bitches) If you are hitting the gym and you have atleast some pecs / shoulders you would do better in a plain white t-shirt over some dude in a gay hat. Nothing says natural peacock or alpha like a little muscle (you will also be more confident)

- Have some nice threads. If its a suit, then make it sharp and fit nice, with something standing out, birghtly colord pocket square or a nice smooth tie. Classic suits never go out of style and you look like you might be important. The subtle peacocking of the shiny tie or gold cufflinks, get thumbs up. Remembe girls notice the little stuff. Overboard peacocking in this case, long tailed bright purple suit with some crazy stripes or something, just hard to pull off,

- If its leisurely, just try and be "fresh" or original. A nice fitting shirt from some cool place you been or something that is rare is great for most laid back places, daytime game, beach vacations etc. Think about a decent fitting, hard to find "mike's bar house, 8th st. Milwaukee.." or something nobody else has, instead of some gay Affliction shirt with spekles all over it or some played out jam you see on 1 in 10 dudes at the beach.

Post: #20

I've stumbled onto peacock/overtly sexual clothing effectiveness although like many commenters here, I tend to shy away from it.
(BTW, I'm a RAFC level)

One time I had high leather boots for motorcycling, and I was in the DMV. I don't like the mechanical looking motorcycle boots, these looked more like horse riding boots, so it looked like I was into BDSM maybe, some kind of dominant sexual guy.

At least one chick was just openly leering at me, pupils blown out, like she was excited to see someone who was going to treat her nasty.

Other times in spandex bike clothing, I had to go to the store before changing and the chicks just loved it. It was who I was, I didn't do it to get attention.

This links to another thing about peacocking-- most people do not have the nerve or energy to make their lives into an adventure, so when they see someone who IS [making life an adventure], they hope to be rescued from their boredom.

They have some idea what could happen, because at times for various reasons they have been fortunate enough to taste adventure, for instance on a camping trip when their friend broke out the shrooms or something-- but they would NEVER go out and look for a dealer. I don't mean to emphasize illegal drugs, it could be anything, taking a ride on a motorcycle to get home, etc.

People here have commented on how ridiculous Mystery/Style look in that pic. I feel that is confusing the aesthetic appeal of the clothes with the social function. Look at Style's facial expression. His clothes and his facial expression SHOW you IMMEDIATELY he DOES NOT CARE what conventional people think of him. HE'S BROKEN FREE OF BEING TAME.

Therefore you may be thought to be a source of adventure.

Also, as an academically accredited expert on intelligence with published research on intelligence testing ( I'm not a major academic figure or anything, but I am a professional) I seriously believe that Mystery is clearly a genius. (Style also referred to him as a genius in The Game)

Working on his own, he synthesized evolutionary psychology, physical expression of emotion, real-time analysis of interpersonal dynamics, and cultural influences in a way an army of academic psychologists/sociologists/anthropologists - thousands of them with full-time salaries and tons of time-- never did.

As a true outlier among all the followers, he can dress weird to the same extent his true personality is weirdly brilliant. Just like all PUA techniques, it doesn't matter what our opinions are, it works whether it is counterintuitive or not.

Style is also an outlier. He's a New York times bestselling author!! This is a very extraordinary achievement. Just TRY to do it.
I'm saying these guys' clothes are as extreme as they are talented.

When you are at that level of highly unusual talent, it's not pretentious, just assertive.

Post: #21

Dude you can defend him all you want..yeah he is a smart man, he knows game, but he still looks like a carnie on stilts.

I do agree with you that looking like he looks (atleast part of the time) will get you mucho attention. And of course I also agree with you that you have to have the balls to wear it and own it. But waaaay before Mystery over did this kind of thing (he is really just copying a typical rock star) people who were on the outskirts of the norms were always going to garner attention. Marilyn Manson, David Bowie, Prince, all these guys dressed/dress weird even 'Gender Nuetral' almost all of the time and all were very popular with the ladies...but in part due to their growing popularity with or without the clothing. The artist personality is magnetic, the passion , the ability to relate to people etc. Take your average computer programmer and put him in a stupid outfit and watch girls/guys laugh at him.

I feel its the same with mystery, he is a bright fellow and knows game like a son of a gun...so he is getting girls in spite of his dress not because of it. If anything I think it says more about his gaming abilities when he wears this shit and gets women. I think his version of peacocking is almost overboard/parody just to show that game is more important than appearance. Then again accentric odd people like Mystery are always interesting in many ways, and yeah I agree that those people are often "odd" or different in more ways that most.

Asside from all that, I think its important we all remember there is a fan club for every kind of man. For every girl who likes a rock star, there is a girl that is completely turned on by a sharply dressed banker or a rough constuction worker etc. I can guarantee you that with Mystery's knowledge he would get just as many if not plenty more women if he were his height plus fine tailored suit and business look or (insert your favorite style)

Post: #22

Eyepatch bro, I dare you.

Tattoos in warm weather are a game changer... better to have bisceps to put them on tho.

(09-09-2010 04:05 AM)Hunterdoingfieldresearch Wrote:  

You could get me to wear that snake-skin suit if you bought my drinks all night or had enough bro-cred to dare me into it. Fly as fuck, I wish I was in Motley Crue.

"What, this old thing?"
"Yea, it's laundry day"
"It's actually dyed alligator skin, I fought for my life once in the Everglades and wanted a trophy"

Post: #23

The snake skin suit is pretty money...I would do it for a laugh. What is on Mystery's eyes? It's like he has a dirty face or something.

Post: #24

[quote='Rocco81' pid='27243' dateline='1284127717']
Dude you can defend him all you want..yeah he is a smart man, he knows game, but he still looks like a carnie on stilts./quote]

I like your idea that he gets them "in spite" of the costume; also for sure that diff girls=diff uniforms. However, I do remember seeing an interview with mystery, or it was in "The Game" where he was challenged to pick up women in a T-shirt. He did it , and said he was successful, but he also admitted it was clearly harder.

If I was a chick, I would never go for a guy dressed super peacock because I never go for chicks dressed like super-stripper.
You can tell in two seconds their going to ditch you in 3 [seconds.]

Since I'm after more relationship than lays ( although you have to start by F closing them, or else you don't know if you're eligible)
I want to wear a costume that, as you alluded to, is someone who she thinks might stick around for a while but not be boring. I've done well with the spandex expensive bike deal; bike chicks are upper middle class and very socially skilled, when you talk to them they are able to form a f'ing sentence, and they want someone who isn't going to want to hang around in a bar. And racing bikes cost $1000 or more, so they aren't total cashiers in Rite-Aid, not that they're bad or anything...

Post: #25

Peacocking shouldn't be about some gimmicky look that is in itself going to get you laid. It should be about standing out in the crowd, setting yourself apart, being interesting, or just looking good........ the point is it's got to be congruent with who you are /quote]

Beautiful.