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(08-08-2013 07:49 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  I did have to think about BeyondBorders' story for a moment, where the girl freaked out after this kind of move lol. Guess that was bad luck man!

haha Sorry to scare you - it only happened once.

Maybe I should reactivate that one; used to be one of my signatures.

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(08-08-2013 07:13 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(08-08-2013 05:32 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  2. Ladyboys

Deflecting claws but she comes at me with her shoe and I take her other shoe and high heeled her in the face with it before she could do to me.

Haha, that's intense man. Yeah, the high heeleed shoes and glass bottles are their weapon of choice.

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(08-08-2013 05:32 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  3. A girl married to a Thai guy
Smart move all in all but still to this day one of my biggest pussy regrets.

That would have been quite the achievement unlocked. Depends on how long you'd still be living there. Like a few days before you'd check out you could consider the risk Wink

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(08-08-2013 07:53 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  haha Sorry to scare you - it only happened once.

Maybe I should reactivate that one; used to be one of my signatures.

Lol, no worries.

It is a solid move. But going from 0 to pushing her into the wall might be to big of step. I'd pull this one out if she comfortable walking hand in hand with me and if I feel she's not a total prude.

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You did the right thing by not banging that woman working in your building. Even tough the husband had a mistress/2nd wife and didn't seem to care much for her, he would have gone apeshit as soon as he would have found out about it. This would have been a huge loss of face for him and at this point, it would have been a very dangerous situation to be in. Very smart move to think with the big head and not the smaller one.

Btw, what's this move story? I must have missed it someway...

Ladyboys, ah ladyboys, I also have some crazy and hilarious stories about them, but that'll be for another time. lol
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(08-08-2013 01:38 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Btw, what's this move story? I must have missed it someway...

The elevator move gone wrong: /thread-25251-...#pid503340

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Met up with RioNomad and his buddies the other night and we had an awesome party. There's this place called Wxyz that served all you can drink cocktails (pretty strong ones if you insisted) 'till midnight for 500B. It's on Soi 11, right next to Levels. Rio recommended it and it's pretty chill place to pre-drink and it's easy to get your money's worth.

After that we went to ScratchDog and ordered another bottle. Which was both a good and a bad idea at the same time cause I got too drunk of it.

As I was walking around a cute little Thai girl pulled me to her table with her friends to take pictures of me with her and her friends. Later she came back by her self to my table two more times to dance and flirt and then somehow I lost her. I would never have fucked up such a silver platter opportunity if it wasn't for that "all you can drink + one extra bottle" combo. Damn!

Still an enjoyable night and was great catching up and trying some new places.

So the past weekend my girl from the Phils flew over to Bangkok to visit me and I showed her around town and took her out partying. We had a great time.

We went out with some of my Thai friends and I almost pulled off an international Thai/Philippine threesome. I got both girls in my room, but somewhere along the way it got fucked up, mission failed. But a pretty great night nonetheless.

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(08-12-2013 12:32 PM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  So the past weekend my girl from the Phils flew over to Bangkok to visit me and I showed her around town and took her out partying. We had a great time.

We went out with some of my Thai friends and I almost pulled off an international Thai/Philippine threesome. I got both girls in my room, but somewhere along the way it got fucked up, mission failed. But a pretty great night nonetheless.

Read more about it on SwoopTheWorld.

I did the same thing, got my Filipina to fly here for a week, after two weeks of doing fade-outs and friendzoning Thai women I accumulated from my first trip in April.

I had some lousy lays - I got a Nepalese waitress from a restaurant in Praturam to come to my room - she lives in the same building with her sister and bro-in-law - but she just laid there with her eyes closed. Another one of my former regulars did not know enough English to tell me she was on her period, so there was a huge blood stain on the sheets.

Another Thai woman, a 45 yo widow, now sends me alternately pleading and angry text messages every half hour.

Another widow came on to me after I made eye contact on the street at Siam Square. She turned around and approached me while I was hanging on a corner listening to Diamonds by Rihanna. I took her to the Hard Rock cafe nearby for a beer and she acted like she wanted it so bad I had to screen her for being a pro. But no, husband was a university professor and she has her own house and a pension. Anyways, she was OK.

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nice write up THC, I have been in Patong for about 5 days now and your data is pretty accurate so i gave you a rep point.

Just to add to what you have said, if you want to stay in Patong, the YorkShire is a good place to stay as its 2 minutes to bangla road and visitor friendly as well as pretty cheap yet modern so in short the logistics are perfect as are the facilities.

Other bars worth having a peak at off bangla are Susi Wongs and the place next door to it down soi dragon, right at the end. But do not get your phone or camera out in these places or you will be out the door so fast you will probably hurt yourself or be hurt as they cops try and shut them down for the lebso shows they do in them ( also worth seeing) . Tiger bar is indeed crazy, I have never seen so many hookers in one place before but grew board of it after the first night, still first night in Patong I had to get some take away to see what it was like. Checked out hollywood but didn't like it, had semi's hanging off me the minute i walked in but there were no stunners, number closed one but couldn't be fucked calling her back as I wanted a dancer from another club i had seen earlier who was a clear 8.

Tai Pan is also an easy pickup but the quality there was low...and to date my best pickup was out the front of my hotel after a night of drinking with mates, they wanted to go to bed and i wanted to keep drinking ( it was very late) so off i went towards tai pan but saw a cute girl walking down the street 15 meters further down so i asked her to come for a drink at tai pan, she said yes and well you know how it goes....those women from Isan are very fine which is where she was from and was a straight 8 in every mans terms. She was also by far the best lay I had here in a week.

One final point , if you guys are interested in a massage experience try Christin Massage which is a big pink place down off the main street, its a huge pink building so you cant miss it. I paid it a visit on my mates recommendation after 2 nights of heavy drinking and although expensive it was worth it. Now i know what a full body massage really means and I don't think I have ever been as clean as I was after she bathed me Smile

I am back home tomorrow and to be honest I don't think I could do anymore than a week here, in fact a week is almost too long if you party every night...perhaps I am just getting old.

Note: I have never done p4p before this trip but figured I should try it before I knock it and after I few nights of it, now know its not for me because no matter how cute they are, and believe me some of the women here are fucking fine, something about the transaction component ruins it for me.

Hope this helps and keep up the great posts fella's
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Anyone partied in Phuket Town as opposed to Patong?
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(08-12-2013 11:06 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ...did not know enough English to tell me she was on her period, so there was a huge blood stain on the sheets.

That's hilarious. Surely she could have gestured that out...

1) Point at her pussy
2) Point at something RED

(08-13-2013 01:16 AM)loki Wrote:  Note: I have never done p4p before this trip but figured I should try it before I knock it and after I few nights of it, now know its not for me because no matter how cute they are, and believe me some of the women here are fucking fine, something about the transaction component ruins it for me.

Good input Loki.

I agree, hence till date, no single p4p yet on this trip.

The first times I shored I expected I'd discover some amazing sex, after all it IS her profession, but overal, the quality of sex with the girls I've shored was not especially better and in many cases even below avarage...

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(08-13-2013 10:01 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  
(08-12-2013 11:06 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  ...did not know enough English to tell me she was on her period, so there was a huge blood stain on the sheets.

That's hilarious. Surely she could have gestured that out...

1) Point at her pussy
2) Point at something RED

Asian women seem particularly good at failing to mention they're on their period. Like they're too afraid or embarrassed to mention it or something and would rather sheepishly look at you when the lights come on and say "red color." LOL

One even claimed she told me but I'm pretty damn sure she didn't.

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(08-13-2013 01:16 AM)loki Wrote:  Note: I have never done p4p before this trip but figured I should try it before I knock it and after I few nights of it, now know its not for me because no matter how cute they are, and believe me some of the women here are fucking fine, something about the transaction component ruins it for me.

Good input Loki.

I agree, hence till date, no single p4p yet on this trip.

The first times I shored I expected I'd discover some amazing sex, after all it IS her profession, but overal, the quality of sex with the girls I've shored was not especially better and in many cases even below avarage...

I agree. In my case, shoring isn't about saving money or getting one over on some hooker. It's more about the fact that I only enjoy sex when I know she actually wants it to. A purely-financial transaction just doesn't do it for me.

Maybe when I'm older I'll change my mind.

And I back THC on hookers not being much good in bed (though finding it a bit different where I'm at right now). It's really mind-boggling how poorly some of them perform. Every once in a while you stumble across some good sex but it's no more frequent than you'll find it with a mainstream girl.

Not that the mainstream girls are all that great either. At least in Thailand I find that, with some exceptions, most of the women from all walks of life need some real coaching to bring out their potential, and that takes time.

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(08-13-2013 10:38 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  I agree. In my case, shoring isn't about saving money or getting one over on some hooker. It's more about the fact that I only enjoy sex when I know she actually wants it to. A purely-financial transaction just doesn't do it for me.

Maybe when I'm older I'll change my mind.

And I back THC on hookers not being much good in bed (though finding it a bit different where I'm at right now). It's really mind-boggling how poorly some of them perform. Every once in a while you stumble across some good sex but it's no more frequent than you'll find it with a mainstream girl.

Not that the mainstream girls are all that great either. At least in Thailand I find that, with some exceptions, most of the women from all walks of life need some real coaching to bring out their potential, and that takes time.

Nah, you won't change your mind. At 57, I prefer a 50 year old widow who is panting for it with me ten times more than any kind of mercenary girl - and there are a lot of gradations between bar fining and getting it for free when it comes to a woman extracting resources.

Once they give a hint they're all about getting things from me, I fade them out.

It's true about Thai women not being all that in bed. Only the two widows I had here had the enthusiasm I expected.
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(08-13-2013 10:38 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Asian women seem particularly good at failing to mention they're on their period. Like they're too afraid or embarrassed to mention it or something and would rather sheepishly look at you when the lights come on and say "red color." LOL

I hate it when that happens. But as they say, any good pirate has blood on his sword Wink

(08-13-2013 10:38 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Not that the mainstream girls are all that great either. At least in Thailand I find that, with some exceptions, most of the women from all walks of life need some real coaching to bring out their potential, and that takes time.

I noticed a distinct quality of sex in Indonesia. I have to say my sample base was a lot smaller that for Thai girls, but over there the quality of the sex was just so much better. I think the sex was great with all but one of my Indonesian girls. The girls were way more into it and just overal more sexual.

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Last night I got another glimps on the "behind the smiles" Thai culture. I was just leaving a bar at Kao San road and everything was closed down already or closing down. So the only people still lingering around were drunk farang, drunk Thai, lady boys and tuk-tuk drivers.

On my way to the taxi I see a Thai guy sitting on the floor with a bleeding nose and some white girls taking care of him and a few meters further a big white guy with a busted eyebrow surrounded by his mates.

Shit, I had just missed the fight!

It looked like no one had really won or lost the fight and they were just licking their wounds. Fight's over, let's all go to sleep and sober up.

Right?

Out of fucking nowhere a Thai guy storms into the scene with a fucking baseball bat. He goes to the Thai guy sitting down holding his bleeding nose and from what I could understand from their Thai, he asks him: "Who is it, who did it?"

The injured Thai guy points in the general direction of some one, still half K.O. or half drunk, and without a second of doubt the bat guy sprints to that person swinging his bat around.

That guy was running for his life not to be beaten down by this lunatic bat swinging Thai guy. Some of the girls involved from before try to stand in between them and at least he didn't smash one of the girls down but he was very determined to hit a home-run.

And how many fucks are given by the local Thai people around (like the shop keepers, tuk tuk drivers, sales men)? Zero.

Eyebrows were barely raised as this farang was trying to explain that he didn't have anything to do with it.

An old Thai lady finally intervenes and takes away the bat. In Thai culture people do respect older (Thai) people very much though. Without his bat the Thai guy finally calms down.

Turns out he was going after the wrong guy. A guy that was actually helping the Thai guy that got beat up.

The white guy was like: "I was helping your friend!!!"

"Oh, Kor tod na krap." (sorry)

Sorry for trying to kill you for no reason 10 seconds ago... lol. Anyway, some action to close the night.

But just a lesson learned: if you get in a fight with a Thai guy (to be avoided in the first place) and even if you win, don't go hanging around and get the fuck out of there and don't come back for at least a week I'd say Smile

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Do you remember my story of my 2nd night out in BKK- Dude getting drop-kicked in the face at Thong-lo. Then assailant bribing the policeman and walking away. Thailand is freaking nuts.

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(08-15-2013 10:38 AM)DVY Wrote:  Do you remember my story of my 2nd night out in BKK- Dude getting drop-kicked in the face at Thong-lo. Then assailant bribing the policeman and walking away. Thailand is freaking nuts.

I remember. Oh yeah, this also took place like 20 meters from the Kao San police station btw Wink

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(08-15-2013 07:38 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  But just a lesson learned: if you get in a fight with a Thai guy (to be avoided in the first place) and even if you win, don't go hanging around and get the fuck out of there and don't come back for at least a week I'd say Smile

At the very least. Thais know how to keep a grudge for a long time and will retaliate when least expected. I knew one thai guy who had his cup of coffee poisoned. No one ever knew who did it. No known enemies.

Likely a simple loss of face.

If I got in brawl with a Thai guy I would seriously consider never returning to that place again, especially if beatdown ensued with me coming out on top.

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(08-15-2013 11:36 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  If I got in brawl with a Thai guy I would seriously consider never returning to that place again

I looked over my shoulder for a while too after that ladyboy fight haha Big Grin never saw him again though... maybe took off his wig.

Currently, due lack of sleep I actually fell asleep on a date last night. We went to see a movie and I think I managed to stay awake for the first 20 minutes. Time to take it easy for a while.

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In other news, I just booked my tickets to Japan. I'll be flying to Tokyo next week.

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I'd really like to visit another city (or cities) besides Tokyo though, Osaka comes to mind. But if anybody knowledgable about Japan has any better suggestions, they are very welcomed. I will have about 2 to 3 weeks there.


The flights were not cheap but I found a flight with a 23 hour stop-over in Colombo Sri Lanka. So I took that one, just for the check in the box:

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That will probably be a 100% tourist stop though Smile I'm currently investigating the must see places there to take the few token pictures.

Won't have time to really explore things there. If anybodoy has been there before and has some tips, let me know. I'll look around on the forum if I can find some info.

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Okay based on what I found in older threads chances are zero to very slim on getting a stopover SL flag over there.

(06-10-2013 03:47 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  I banged a couple of women in SL through piplineing and street approaches. Of course these were widows in their 40s.

What site did you use? DIA gives no usable results.

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(08-17-2013 04:34 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  In other news, I just booked my tickets to Japan. I'll be flying to Tokyo next week.

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I'd really like to visit another city (or cities) besides Tokyo though, Osaka comes to mind. But if anybody knowledgable about Japan has any better suggestions, they are very welcomed. I will have about 2 to 3 weeks there.

Good luck there! I'm excited to hear how you do.

I imagine the culture (and language issues) for getting lays will be quite different than Thai/Phils, but of course girls are girls Smile so I'm sure you will do well.
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(06-10-2013 03:47 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  I banged a couple of women in SL through piplineing and street approaches. Of course these were widows in their 40s.

What site did you use? DIA gives no usable results.

Tagged. I was flying blind, though, lots of profiles with no pictures.

I think you can do street approaches there, playing the lost tourist.

Lots of younger good looking women in the district around the Taj Hotel and US Embassy in Colombo.
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Ok, quick update as I'm on the road.

The goodbye party last weekend with Soma and Rio was out of control and had an ironic twist. I'll do a decent write-out as soon as I get the chance but it was pretty epic.

For science I invited 2 new girls from Thai friendly to meet me at a restaurant before taking them out. Stuff happened. But more on that later.


I traveled to Tokyo and since I had a 23h stop-over in Sri Lanka, I applied for the one day transit visa (which is free) and checked out the capital Colombo.

I slept in a cheap hotel and the next morning I hired a tuk-tuk driver for 30 dollars to drive me around all day and show me all the cool looking stuff I found on google images about Colombo. Had only half a day left so it was all about tourism, but my impressions of the city:

I would not want to stay here longer then one day.

(08-17-2013 12:52 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  Lots of younger good looking women in the district around the Taj Hotel and US Embassy in Colombo.

The whole freaking day driving through all kinds of neighborhoods and areas I saw maybe 3 good looking girls. Even the girls they were using for the billboards I did not find that attractive. Well, maybe they're just not my style. But I was very disappointed with the quality of the women here.

But a fun day and I'm glad I got to see the city at least.

Then I rushed back to the airport to catch my flight to Tokyo. I saw more quality girls waiting to board the flight to Tokyo then the whole day driving around in Colombo: promising!

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First impressions Tokyo (after being here for a couple of hours): it's fucking expensive & people don't speak English.

I cost me 30 dollars to take public transport to get to my capsule hotel. I wanted to try it, both for the experience and because it's cheaper. Apparently the policy is that all guests check out at 10am and can come back only after 5pm, even if you book for multiple days, you can't stay inside.

I'm about to find out if the capsules are at least comfortable.


My biggest problem right now is, I tried to get a Japanese SIM card with some 3G internet access. Turns out the cheapest solution for this would cost me around 60 dollars. I didn't buy it, there must be a better/cheaper way.

I went to a giant electronics store with like 500 employees working there, it took them 15 minutes to find someone that could speak English well enough to understand my question.

And you can't rely on hand gestures either. Thumbs up/thumbs down, good/bad... I'll have to learn some basic words for tomorrow.

Anyway, I number closed a girl on the train and I got some action online so I need to find a way to get 3G on my phone (my wifi doesn't work anymore).

Does anybody know if this is actually the case? From what I understood from the telco guy, Japan's telco networks work differently and you need to be registered even for pre-pay at that costs 25 dollar.

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@THC Keep the stories about Tokyo coming man! I am really interested in hearing about your experiences there.
08-22-2013 09:25 AM
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(08-22-2013 08:22 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  First impressions Tokyo (after being here for a couple of hours): it's fucking expensive & people don't speak English.
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Are you going to Korea too? It would be interesting to compare Japan with Korea.
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(08-22-2013 08:22 AM)TravelHardcore Wrote:  First impressions Tokyo (after being here for a couple of hours): it's fucking expensive & people don't speak English.

I went to a giant electronics store with like 500 employees working there, it took them 15 minutes to find someone that could speak English well enough to understand my question.

And you can't rely on hand gestures either. Thumbs up/thumbs down, good/bad... I'll have to learn some basic words for tomorrow.

Anyway, I number closed a girl on the train and I got some action online so I need to find a way to get 3G on my phone (my wifi doesn't work anymore).

Does anybody know if this is actually the case? From what I understood from the telco guy, Japan's telco networks work differently and you need to be registered even for pre-pay at that costs 25 dollar.

Tokyo is renowned for being a really really fucking expensive city. Most expensive in the world actually at one point, I think. Maybe it still is. In any case, it's a terrible place for someone on a tight budget.
Definitely have a look around Tokyo because it is an amazing city (although I haven't been there for about 10 years) but perhaps you would be better off spending the majority of your 2-3 weeks in tier 2 city. Your dollars will go so much further.

I always hear good things about Osaka, but a quick Google search on "best cities in Japan for girls" gives:



hottest himegyaru (big puffy golden hair, unbelievable, pastel, tight fitting outfits):
nagoya

hottest regular gyaru
tokyo

shortest shorts
tie between nagoya and tokyo gyaru

best makeup (not a dis, personally i love girls with good makeup and tsukematsuge, instant boner)
osaka

hottest girls without makeup
toss up between any of the northern cities: akita, iwate, aomori, hakodate & sapporo. possibly sendai but lots of uglies there too

best dark skinned girls
miyazaki or okinawa. if you can get to the yaeyama islands the teens are unbelievably gorgeous but hate americans so if that's you, SOL

I really like them up North. Aomori and Hokkaido had a lot of natural cuties without the makeup. Hiroshima too was really nice. There are girls that do wear makeup but so many I noticed without.



This is all just ramble on some expat forums, but maybe it will spark some ideas.

A quick tip on Japanese girls: Even though pretty much every single one of them will say "Nooo I don't speak English" or "English very bad" you might find they speak pretty fucking good English.
I was good friends with a couple Japanese girls in Shanghai, and I remember two in particular that I always had to communicate with in Chinese, because they insisted they didn't speak any English. After knowing them for about 4 months and seeing them nearly every day, still convinced they couldn't speak English, we were sitting around having a few drinks and I said OK let me teach you some English. They had a look of terror on their faces as if I'd asked them to do a striptease for me. We were all a little drunk, and so I kept talking to her in English and pushing her to say something. Finally after like 15 minutes of me asking her name she says
"My name is Aki."

We do a cheers like heeeey you said something! So I keep going.

"Where are you from?"

"I am from Japan."

(Imagine her face bright red, blushing like she's about to explode, giggling uncontrollably, still looking terrified).

"Do you like Shanghai?"

"Yes I like Shanghai."

At this point I'm pretty surprised she even understands this much, since she was so adamant she spoke no English at all.

"Do you like Shanghai more or Japan more?"

"I like Japan."

"Why?"

Then suddenly she is magically fluent in English.

"Of course I like Japan more. It is very clean and my friends are there. My family is there. I like the food in Japan. The food in Shanghai is so-so..."

Can't remember what else she said, but she went on for a bit. It was like I was talking to a new person. Using words like "of course" and "so-so", she obviously knows a fair bit of English. It felt like that moment in the TV show Lost when everyone finds out the Korean chick can speak perfect English.

Of course she said it all slowly with a very Japanese accent, but I had no problem understanding it. After that I started talking to her in English every day and she understood damn near everything I said to her.

Then I asked the other girl if she could speak English too, and turns out she speaks pretty damn good English as well. Easily enough to communicate in day to day situations.

I gave them a little heat for pretending not to speak English all this time (especially because when with other friends we would talk about them in English thinking they couldn't understand, turns out they probably understood every word), and they whole heartedly denied they were pretending. Their explanation was basically they were just so terrified of speaking English with native English speakers because they think they'll make a lot of mistakes and we won't understand anything they say and they'll look like idiots. Japanese people are very shy and humble for the most part and so in a way this made a bit of sense.

Anyway, the moral of the story is, when dealing with Japanese girls who say they don't speak English, don't give up. Speak to them very slowly and clearly and encourage them a lot, they pretty much all learn English in high school and watch English TV and movies, so naturally they should understand basic English. They are just so terrified of trying to speak it and making mistakes. Hell, even when I'm learning a foreign language I'm scared to speak in certain situations because I think I'll look like an ass. There were times I knew how to say something in Chinese but would end up saying "sorry I don't speak Chinese" because I wasn't quite sure if I could say it right. And in my experience Japanese girls are painfully shy, so this will be the case with them even more so.

Maybe this was the case in the big department store you went to as well, those guys were all just scared of saying something in English and you not understanding and them looking like dicks. If you put them in a life/death situation where they had to speak English I'm sure they'd probably be screaming a wealth of perfect, grammatically correct sentences.

When you think about it, the education system in Japan is world class, it doesn't really make sense that there are 7 Eleven girls in Bangkok that speak basic English and department store employees in Tokyo that are English mutes.


Anyway, please keep us posted on your Japan adventures. I'm very keen to hear how your experience compares to SEA.

What other spots in Asia are you planning on doing before the end of your trip?
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