Post: #26

(08-18-2010 05:34 PM)PinkElephant Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 05:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 12:38 PM)gringoed Wrote:  "the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet. "

really? not according to what I've seen

England and the U.S. are in the top 2.

Insanely funny. Yet, horny young American men believe that stuff. Simply put, Ukraine knocks the hell out of anything in the West. In every way. From genetics, to style, to traditional value, to ease of getting a girlfriend you would never get in the West. It wins. Swedes are spoiled and filled with immigrants from ugly places.

Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czech and Slovak Republics, Russia, Moldova, Belarus, Slovenia, and Southern Brazil. They dominate for classic beauties. If you like alternative types (huge butts and fat I would suggest Memphis or a favella).

I agree with everything this dude said.

Furthermore:

The USA does produce hotties, but we've also got one of the largest populations of any country in the world. In terms of countries with the dominant population having European genetics, we are the largest. However, all the mixing makes for some ugly people, imo. Countries with the best looking individuals, per capita, seem to have less mixing in their bloodlines. Not to sound like a nazi, but it seems to be true. This holds true for any indigenous population (west, east, african, etc). Of course, there are always individual, and some general, exceptions to this rule. On a per capita basis, so many other countries beat the USA in terms of good looking people. I can go weeks here, or more, without seeing a truly beautiful girl. It doesn't mean that they aren't here, but just that there aren't a lot of them in ratio to how many people are here. However, due to pure numbers, we still produce good looking celebrities and the occasional good looking commoner. But its the exception and therefore these hot women are way overvalued here. Because they are rare, their beauty leads to special treatment, which fucks up their personalities, This is the catch 22 with beautiful women in America. You may find one if you are lucky, but the chances of finding one that isn't ruined in some way is very rare. The competition for good looking normal women is too insane to comprehend.

This is an overwhelming practical reason why travel makes sense. Yes, pua's can score good looking women in America. But to land one with a normal personality, the odds are much greater abroad where these women aren't so overvalued.

Post: #27

(08-19-2010 05:00 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(08-19-2010 03:01 AM)IshGibbor Wrote:  The USA is #1 IMHO if we count American celebrities. Angelina Jolie (in her prime), Kim Kardashian, Beyonce, Jessica Simpson,Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, video hoes and porn stars. Hell even the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are "I'll leave my wife of twenty years in a second" hot and they are all Americans.

You can't be serious. I googled all of the names you mentioned (as I didn't know some of them), and none of them is more than 6 on my scale. Which is high enough, but definitely not something I'd leave my wife for, even considering just appearance.

It seems like "beauty" in modern world is nothing more than a combination of your childhood experiences (who you see around while growing up), and marketing image (what you've seen on TV during your whole life). Here in California locals consider Latino females hot, while most Russian/CIS immigrants do not find them more than "attractive" - meaning not worth pursuing. Recently being back from Montana, it seems to be similar there - I talked to some locals, and it looks like they're all into fat white chicks. Interesting.

Quote:All of these girls are easily 10's (or damn near it) and they are so hot that other girls (and we are talking thousands of girls, if not millions) literally change the physical parts of their bodies just to look like them.

10 is the photoshopped picture of trophy wife of oil billionaire (who is 9 in real life), i.e. no real person could be 10. There seem to be no standard scale at all.

Don't bother. It's like telling the guy within The Matrix that he's living in a computer program. He doesn't want to hear the truth, and in fact would prefers the comfort of the finite reality he's created for himself.

Post: #28

(08-19-2010 05:00 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(08-19-2010 03:01 AM)IshGibbor Wrote:  The USA is #1 IMHO if we count American celebrities. Angelina Jolie (in her prime), Kim Kardashian, Beyonce, Jessica Simpson,Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, video hoes and porn stars. Hell even the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are "I'll leave my wife of twenty years in a second" hot and they are all Americans.

You can't be serious. I googled all of the names you mentioned (as I didn't know some of them), and none of them is more than 6 on my scale. Which is high enough, but definitely not something I'd leave my wife for, even considering just appearance.

It seems like "beauty" in modern world is nothing more than a combination of your childhood experiences (who you see around while growing up), and marketing image (what you've seen on TV during your whole life). Here in California locals consider Latino females hot, while most Russian/CIS immigrants do not find them more than "attractive" - meaning not worth pursuing. Recently being back from Montana, it seems to be similar there - I talked to some locals, and it looks like they're all into fat white chicks. Interesting.

Quote:All of these girls are easily 10's (or damn near it) and they are so hot that other girls (and we are talking thousands of girls, if not millions) literally change the physical parts of their bodies just to look like them.

10 is the photoshopped picture of trophy wife of oil billionaire (who is 9 in real life), i.e. no real person could be 10. There seem to be no standard scale at all.

I would love to see what you consider an eight or a nine.

That said, it is all subjective so if that is how you feel then good for you.

Ish Gibbor

Post: #29

OMG England.. without doubt the worst subjective or not in Europe... its like ugly.com

Post: #30

Maybe we cant agree on who has the hottest women....but we could probably agree England has the ugliest.

Post: #31

England is bad, but IME iceland was even worse

Post: #32

I have yet to go to these 2 countries (Sweden/Ukraine), however, from what I have seen of Ukrainian girls in here and online on dating site, it's hard not to see them as some of the most beautiful in the world. Take a look at this site and you'll be floored. Now the real question is how legit these pics an these girls are. I'd love to hear/read a nice low down on the Ukraine and Ukrainian girls from guys in here who have been there and whether they can confirm that the girls are as high quality as the pics on that site.

http://www.dream-marriage.com/russian-wo...all=ladies

Post: #33

(08-19-2010 11:12 PM)IshGibbor Wrote:  I would love to see what you consider an eight or a nine.

Young Catherine Zeta Jones is eight, her photoshopped picture would probably be nine.

Post: #34

(08-20-2010 05:34 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I have yet to go to these 2 countries (Sweden/Ukraine), however, from what I have seen of Ukrainian girls in here and online on dating site, it's hard not to see them as some of the most beautiful in the world. Take a look at this site and you'll be floored. Now the real question is how legit these pics an these girls are.

Some look legit to me. But if you can read Russian, you can join http://love.mail.ru which is a free Russian online dating site, you'll see even more - and a lot of people there are legit. Unfortunately it does not have English interface, so you'd have to read Russian, or use it through online translator.

Post: #35

Maybe I am in the minority here but I find Kim Kardanshian to be hotter than a younger Katherine Zeta Jones. But then again I am a Black so I am a sucker for big tits, a phat ass and a flat stomach. Maybe my standards are not as high as some of my fellow members, but I see cute hot girls everyday in New York. Thus, the reason I never really jumped in the "hating American Women" bandwagon. After all, the grass is always greener on the other side.I can't say I have had the privilege of dating an Eastern European woman so I'll hold my judgement till then but I have dated women from different nationalities and my conclusion is when you reduce them to their least common denominator "THEY ARE ALL THE SAME." They all nag, don't know when to shut the fuck up and will eventually send you to an early grave.

Post: #36

Estonian women rank pretty high.

Post: #37

Yes, Estonian females are pretty high up on most guys minds. Also a LOT of displaced Russians in Estonia. To be honest, I prefer Riga/Jurmala. More cosmopolitan than Tallinn. Same goes for Vilnius/Kaunas. Those towns are too small for me in feel. Classic beauty is basically a game of genetics. Mixing can get dangerous. The only mixes I have seen that produced some stunning girls was in Southern Brazil. Mixes of German, Northern Italian, Polish, and Ukrainian. At one time, the best bet to find pretty girls in America was the Illinois/Ohio area. Lots of East Europeans (mainly from Poland) who mixed with German types. Very similar to what Southern Brazil is like today.

Funny how Bulgaria has some stunning girls, yet Romania is far behind. So, if you want pretty girls and have a choice go with Sofia over Bucharest. Also very interesting that when you find lots of high-end girls you see some really unattractive males. Seems that what looks good on girls does not go over well with males. Look at Mediterranean types. Those features look better on guys than females (harsh noses). The soft features of lets say an Estonian looks too soft for a male.

If people think that Ukraine is loaded with beautiful girls you have seen nothing! Belarus might be the best destination for girls. A pretty closed place. Took me a long time to get a visa. Fascinating country. Also interesting that Ukraine has become much easier to travel to. More nice hotels have opened up recently. Much more reasonable in price than a few years before. Euro 2012 is coming to Ukraine and Poland. So FIFA put pressure on more hotel rooms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkJ0hOFvP9I
An entire song about Estonians. Personally, I would put Lithuanian and Latvian girls slightly above.

Post: #38

(08-21-2010 11:06 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Maybe I am in the minority here but I find Kim Kardanshian to be hotter than a younger Katherine Zeta Jones. But then again I am a Black so I am a sucker for big tits, a phat ass and a flat stomach. Maybe my standards are not as high as some of my fellow members, but I see cute hot girls everyday in New York. Thus, the reason I never really jumped in the "hating American Women" bandwagon. After all, the grass is always greener on the other side.I can't say I have had the privilege of dating an Eastern European woman so I'll hold my judgement till then but I have dated women from different nationalities and my conclusion is when you reduce them to their least common denominator "THEY ARE ALL THE SAME." They all nag, don't know when to shut the fuck up and will eventually send you to an early grave.

Being black has nothing to do with it, you just desire more feminine women. Those who are more masculine tend to want more feminine features. I count myself in that category but I can still give Ms. Jones an eight (despite lacking the C cups and grabble ass I desire).

Post: #39

i like kim k better too - esp after watching her video; she's nasty lol

Post: #40

(08-22-2010 03:35 AM)zanetti Wrote:  i like kim k better too - esp after watching her video; she's nasty lol

Yeah, I especially like the part when she asked Ray J to cum on her face. I was grinning my ass off.

Ish Gibbor

Post: #41

(08-21-2010 10:46 PM)PinkElephant Wrote:  Also very interesting that when you find lots of high-end girls you see some really unattractive males. Seems that what looks good on girls does not go over well with males. Look at Mediterranean types. Those features look better on guys than females (harsh noses). The soft features of lets say an Estonian looks too soft for a male.

Interesting thought but I disagree with the Mediterranean type thing as there are a lot of hot Mediterranean women. I think Israel has it since there's quite a bit of genetic mixing going on there.

Post: #42

i went to tel aviv last year - loads of hotties on the beach but the large majority of girls in bars/clubs suffered from big butt syndrome

Post: #43

The AskMen.com list is horribly skewed for several reasons:

1. It is a U.S. based site
2. Most of it's readers/viewership is from the U.S. - who are exposed mostly to U.S. based media
3. With such a huge population, of course its going to have more hotties
4. A good portion of those girls have a foreign ethnicity in their genes - total or mixed

Post: #44

(08-21-2010 11:39 PM)IshGibbor Wrote:  but I can still give Ms. Jones an eight (despite lacking the C cups and grabble ass I desire).

This is one of the reasons she is getting eight from me.

Post: #45

Most EE girls tend to have a face like a kicked in shit-tin.....like they've been been splatted in the face with a spade a couple of times....There are the hot exceptions of course ....pretty,tall,blossoming small titties like a young teen, with the swimmers/gymnasts' ass I like .just like my Czech ex...Bad attitude/moods though...who needs it??...I imagine she'd turn in to a right babuschka in years to come

Visit...Fuck'em hard and nasty....on camera if you can..just for old times sake,then move on to a sweeter natured people....i.e. head to Brazil...where real love might blossom ...that's my 2 cents!

Post: #46

(09-07-2010 02:05 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  Most EE girls tend to have a face like a kicked in shit-tin.....like they've been been splatted in the face with a spade a couple of times....There are the hot exceptions of course ....

Interesting, as that's exactly my impression about Mexico and Brazil.

Post: #47

(09-07-2010 02:05 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  Most EE girls tend to have a face like a kicked in shit-tin.....like they've been been splatted in the face with a spade a couple of times....There are the hot exceptions of course ....pretty,tall,blossoming small titties like a young teen, with the swimmers/gymnasts' ass I like .just like my Czech ex...Bad attitude/moods though...who needs it??...I imagine she'd turn in to a right babuschka in years to come

Visit...Fuck'em hard and nasty....on camera if you can..just for old times sake,then move on to a sweeter natured people....i.e. head to Brazil...where real love might blossom ...that's my 2 cents!

You have clearly never been to EE. What a load of crap.

The women in brazil are good looking, but its not wall to wall either. There is simple no comparison. Likewise this shit that EE women have no asses? WTF? What is the obsession with fat asses? Christ, the women in EE tend to have the best bodies you come across. Look who is filling the strip clubs of the world and look how often the all natural women are EE women.

Each to his own I guess. Ill take Kiev's women over Rio's anyday thanks. Rio's women, looks wise, are not even the same species.

Post: #48

Man don't people know by now not to trust these stupid ass poles in some of these mags?

1. Its a matter of opinion. Not to generalize that point too far, let's say you like black women. You won't be in Love with anywhere in Europe.
2. Its a matter of Culture. Using the above example, a black chick is going to be waaaay different in NYC than in Atlanta or Luisiana, even more so in Africa, or Brazil or the Carribean somewhere, where you will find probably better looking but also much friendlier black women than you would in NYC.

To me the culture ends up going a long way once you get there and its a toss up on looks.

For the original poster, between those two countries, they both have goot looking women, but I would say Swedish chicks are allot less cool. Taking American women out of the equation (US and UK women dont really count) I've seen plenty of Swedish chicks chugging beer, acting like sloppy dudes and I shit you not, I saw some Scandanavian women chewing smokeless tobacco like a mini Skoal Bandit. That was kind of gross. You wont find that in Eastern Europe. Atleast not in the cities.

Post: #49

LOL now now children. Love the quote about the Matrix, some guys are seriously delluded if they think America is hot girl central. How the hell are you using average Hollywood actresses as a sign of women in the USA, Kardashian has had a few plastic operations (ass implant) plus she is not even American, Zeta Jones is from Wales.

I will state that I have never been to Ukraine but it is in my top three, I know friends who went there twice in a summer and raved about it. That being said, I like to make my own conclusions. Well with a lack of men, money and so much competition is it any wonder the women have shitty attitudes!

Now Sweden, it is truly number one in my heart. If there is a better place; I would love to know which place it is and NO I am not into Blondes per say. The nicest girls I thought were the dark haired girls with the coloured eyes, heck even the other races of girls in Sweden look good as well.

EE girls have great asses, you hardly find cellulite on them as well. I'm a brotha as well

Post: #50

(09-07-2010 03:34 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(09-07-2010 02:05 PM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  Most EE girls tend to have a face like a kicked in shit-tin.....like they've been been splatted in the face with a spade a couple of times....There are the hot exceptions of course ....

Interesting, as that's exactly my impression about Mexico and Brazil.

Agreed. Brazilian girls are notorious for having butterfaces (everything good but her face). I'm not talking about the few photoshop/airbrushed models that you will see in Magazines, I'm talking about the girl you will see walking the streets; they are all butterfaces. I cannot tell you how many times I saw a girl walking in Brazil from behind with an incredible ass and body, and as soon as she turned around from my approach, I almost screamed with terror when I saw her face.

The only one true Brazilian city where girls had nice bodies, and pretty faces was the capital, Brasilia.

Curitiba has a few, but they are the most stuck-up, and snobbish of all!

Mixx