Quote:"Bridget raised William in England, but he visited his father in Germany once in 1929 and met his half-brother, Heinz Hitler (Unlike his half-brother, Heinz was a devoted Nazi and served in the German military on the Eastern Front. He was captured in January of 1942 and tortured for several months before dying in a Moscow prison). William returned to Germany again in 1933, hoping that his uncle Adolf's rise to power would benefit him. Adolf helped his nephew get a couple ordinary jobs, but William started threatening his uncle saying that unless he got a better job, he would become vocal with family secrets. Adolf offered William a high position in the Nazi government if he would renounce his British citizenship. However, William became nervous and fled the country and back in England became a vocal opponent of his uncle Adolf.
"William Randolph Hearst brought William and Bridget to the lecture tour in United States where they were when the US entered World War II. William Hitler petitioned President Roosevelt to allow him to serve in the armed forces. President Roosevelt granted the request and in 1944, William joined the US Navy and even earned a Purple Heart during his service."
Became a naturalized American and changed his name -- descendents live in Long Island are.
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Quote:According to Mr Gibault, she later told her son: ‘One day I was cutting hay with other women, when we saw a German soldier on the other side of the street.
‘He had a sketch pad and seemed to be drawing. All the women found this interesting, and were curious to know what he was drawing. I was designated to approach him.’
The pair started a brief relationship and she said Jean-Marie was conceived after a ‘tipsy’ evening in June 1917. He was born the following year.
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Henrich...Himmler? Ha. Reading the comments of that article just reinforced why I hope the offices of that newspaper get blown up.
For a leftist Guardian reader his/her use of the phrase "coloured" is alarming, and he/she makes the usual wrong assumption that rising anti-semitism in Europe is due to 'Nazis'. It isn't, it's due to a particular religious ideology that has been discussed a lot on this forum, and is rising in both numbers demographically and in confidence.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
For the past four years The Guardian has been losing a £100,000 a day. And are being kept afloat by the money they make from owning Auto Trader magazine.
They are currently owned by The Scott Trust:
Quote:The sole shareholder in Guardian Media Group, the Trust was created in 1936 to safeguard the journalistic freedom and liberal values of the Guardian.
In 2008 it became a limited company, with the same protections for the Guardian enshrined in its constitution. Its core purpose is to secure the financial and editorial independence of the Guardian in perpetuity.
In 2-4 years they are expected to go bust. But one imagines an owner will come in to buy the newspaper before that happens. And with a new owner - one wonders how the editorial policy of the paper will be affected.
All the other British newspapers are losing tons of money as well. But they are backed by billionaires who can afford to keep them afloat. But with The Guardian it all comes down to how long the trust fund will last.
I find Guardian reader types to be a pain in the arse. But - the flight of the paper is just a sad reflection of the destruction of journalism across the world.
06-11-2013 10:39 AM
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One of the things that impressed me about working in London was that there seemed to be a high reading rate. The tube always had tons of newspapers. I think London supports like six papers, right? I prefer the feel of newspaper in my hand so it will be a sad day when that may be a thing of the past (well maybe USA today, Herald Tribune and WSJ might survive).
I always thought it was funny that when I got on the tube I always had to stand. You sort of knew where people lived (i.e. how far out from the city) based on if they had a seat or not.
(06-11-2013 10:39 AM)cardguy Wrote: But - the flight of the paper is just a sad reflection of the destruction of journalism across the world.
Very true.
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Henrich...Himmler? Ha. Reading the comments of that article just reinforced why I hope the offices of that newspaper get blown up.
For a leftist Guardian reader his/her use of the phrase "coloured" is alarming, and he/she makes the usual wrong assumption that rising anti-semitism in Europe is due to 'Nazis'. It isn't, it's due to a particular religious ideology that has been discussed a lot on this forum, and is rising in both numbers demographically and in confidence.
In Holland there's a popular but controversial politician named Geert Wilders. Since he has an moderate anti-islam agenda he is considered extreme right in Holland. The lefties take any chance to bash him.
Since Geert Wilders doesn't run a party that allows members (a very smart move since undercover lefties would try to destroy the party from inside. A known technique here) there is no official party income. It really stings the leftist socialist parties.
Now the funny part. It's a public secret that the party of Geert Wilders is funded by Jewish backers/lobbyists. And still the lefties accuse him daily of being Extreme Right/ the next Hitler etc etc.
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06-11-2013 12:37 PM
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What I ask myself even more is why british tabloids have to bring up a new Nazi topic every few days?
It's not the 30's or 40's.
This obsession about Nazi Germany and Evil Germans is ridicolous, they're basically still stuck in the time of WW2 when here in Germany nobody gives a shit. There's so many problems they have and all they write is about Nazis, Nazis, Nazis.
Considering the brits themselves have enslaved half the world and killed a few million here and there, this standpoint of evil germans is even more idiotic.
Looking at their current socio-economic situation, Nazi Germany would've been less of an issue seeing how they're digging their own grave since the "victory" .
Sorry for the rant . No offense to the british in general, I love you guys.
(06-11-2013 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: In Holland there's a popular but controversial politician named Geert Wilders. Since he has an moderate anti-islam agenda he is considered extreme right in Holland. The lefties take any chance to bash him.
Hey Neil, I'm a big Geert Wilders fan, I've watched tons of interviews if him etc. He was banned from Britain for a bit I think, or his Fitna film was...Disgraceful behaviour by the then-in-power Labour govt. "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". Wilders tells the truth about Islam, and in my opinion, doing so is revolutionary.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
I always find Holocaust denialists to be interesting. It seems surreal that people would put so much passion into disproving a historical fact. It is like those people who claim Elvis faked his death or that we never landed on the moon.
There was a famous court case here in the UK back in 2000 about the truth of the holocaust. The details are below:
Quote:In 1996, the British author David Irving filed suit against American author Deborah Lipstadt and her publisher Penguin Books in an English court, claiming that Lipstadt had libeled him in her book Denying the Holocaust.
Lipstadt had accused him of deliberately misrepresenting evidence to conform to his ideological viewpoint. English libel law puts the burden of proof on the defence, meaning that it was up to Lipstadt and her publisher to prove that her claims were substantially true.
It made for a fascinating case since it resulted in the Defense essentially having to prove in a court of law that the holocaust really did happen.
Pretty surreal.
Anyway - a reconstruction was made of the case, and it is one of the most interesting (and detailed) looks at the holocaust I have seen. For those interested in the holocaust it makes for an educational look at this subject.
I have never understood David Irving's motives since he is an intelligent and interesting man.
Quote:I always find Holocaust denialists to be interesting. It seems surreal that people would put so much passion into disproving a historical fact. It is like those people who claim Elvis faked his death or that we never landed on the moon.
There was a famous court case here in the UK back in 2000 about the truth of the holocaust. The details are below:
Quote:
In 1996, the British author David Irving filed suit against American author Deborah Lipstadt and her publisher Penguin Books in an English court, claiming that Lipstadt had libeled him in her book Denying the Holocaust.
Lipstadt had accused him of deliberately misrepresenting evidence to conform to his ideological viewpoint. English libel law puts the burden of proof on the defence, meaning that it was up to Lipstadt and her publisher to prove that her claims were substantially true.
It made for a fascinating case since it resulted in the Defense essentially having to prove in a court of law that the holocaust really did happen.
Pretty surreal.
Anyway - a reconstruction was made of the case, and it is one of the most interesting (and detailed) looks at the holocaust I have seen. For those interested in the holocaust it makes for an educational look at this subject.
You do know that holocaust denial is strictly verboten in all of Europe, right?
Furthermore, you should read the article, The Crucifixion of The Jews Must Stop, it is written by former New York Governor Martin Glynn shortly after WWI. In the article, he says that 6 million Jews are on the brink of starvation and death in Europe because of "religious persecution".
(06-11-2013 12:40 PM)Branimir Wrote: What I ask myself even more is why british tabloids have to bring up a new Nazi topic every few days?
It's not the 30's or 40's.
This obsession about Nazi Germany and Evil Germans is ridicolous, they're basically still stuck in the time of WW2 when here in Germany nobody gives a shit. There's so many problems they have and all they write is about Nazis, Nazis, Nazis.
Considering the brits themselves have enslaved half the world and killed a few million here and there, this standpoint of evil germans is even more idiotic.
Looking at their current socio-economic situation, Nazi Germany would've been less of an issue seeing how they're digging their own grave since the "victory" .
Sorry for the rant . No offense to the british in general, I love you guys.
I would agree with this. Britain had one of the sickest, most evil empires the world has ever seen. And I say that as a Brit who is not a leftie.
My favourite writer on war is War Nerd - and he has a good column detailing the tactics which underpinned the exapnsion of the British empire.
(06-11-2013 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: In Holland there's a popular but controversial politician named Geert Wilders. Since he has an moderate anti-islam agenda he is considered extreme right in Holland. The lefties take any chance to bash him.
Hey Neil, I'm a big Geert Wilders fan, I've watched tons of interviews if him etc. He was banned from Britain for a bit I think, or his Fitna film was...Disgraceful behaviour by the then-in-power Labour govt. "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act". Wilders tells the truth about Islam, and in my opinion, doing so is revolutionary.
Quote:"Following the Second World War, Europe’s leaders mistakenly thought that patriotism was the cause of the war.
All over Europe, not just in Germany, but everywhere, they equated the defense of national identity with extremism.
Politicians told the electorate that the nation state was dangerous.
On the rooftops of Europe’s parliaments and official buildings, they flew the EU flag next to the national flag, as if the nation is nothing but a province of a Pan-European empire.
On the number plates of European cars, they put the EU flag instead of the national flag, thereby forcing people to drive around with the symbol of their subjection.
They signed away their national interests for the goal of so-called Europeanization.
Such policies could never have been possible if the ruling elite had not fallen for the ideology of cultural and moral relativism. Patriotism, which is a virtue, came to be seen as a vice.
Today, the citizens of Europe are reaping the bitter harvest of this arrogance, this refusal to stand by the ancient nations of Europe, the mothers of modern democracy, the guardians of our liberty.
- The EU stands for everything that is wrong in Europe.
- It is a gigantic undemocratic transnational monster.
- It issues legislation permeated with cultural relativism.
- It meddles in the everyday lives of millions of people.
- It has opened Europe’s borders to uncontrolled mass immigration, mostly from Islamic countries.
- And it has deprived Europe’s parliaments of a huge amount of their legislative powers...
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Nazis still stay in collective memory of European folks because they represented the German way and they made quite an impression. The other folks were simply shocked by that.
At no other period of history has the German way so largely exported.It is the same with Alexander the Great and Greek civilization.Folks still remember him.They will remember Hitler in the next 1000 years.
06-11-2013 03:24 PM
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(06-11-2013 10:39 AM)cardguy Wrote: I find Guardian reader types to be a pain in the arse. But - the flight of the paper is just a sad reflection of the destruction of journalism across the world.
Why is this sad? I think it's one of the greatest developments of the 21st century. Down with public opinion.
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(06-11-2013 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: In Holland there's a popular but controversial politician named Geert Wilders. Since he has an moderate anti-islam agenda he is considered extreme right in Holland. The lefties take any chance to bash him.
Since Geert Wilders doesn't run a party that allows members (a very smart move since undercover lefties would try to destroy the party from inside. A known technique here) there is no official party income. It really stings the leftist socialist parties.
Now the funny part. It's a public secret that the party of Geert Wilders is funded by Jewish backers/lobbyists. And still the lefties accuse him daily of being Extreme Right/ the next Hitler etc etc.
It's pretty obvious why they fund Wilders. People like him have helped switch the European far-right away from anti-Semitism. They're being savvy - they don't really want the far-right in power, but so long as its going to appeal to a disaffected segment of the population, it's better for their interests that these currents renounce anti-Semitism and turn their attentions elsewhere.
It's a classic game of funding groups across the ideological spectrum to ensure that the political debate remains within certain limits.
(06-11-2013 12:37 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote: In Holland there's a popular but controversial politician named Geert Wilders. Since he has an moderate anti-islam agenda he is considered extreme right in Holland. The lefties take any chance to bash him.
Since Geert Wilders doesn't run a party that allows members (a very smart move since undercover lefties would try to destroy the party from inside. A known technique here) there is no official party income. It really stings the leftist socialist parties.
Now the funny part. It's a public secret that the party of Geert Wilders is funded by Jewish backers/lobbyists. And still the lefties accuse him daily of being Extreme Right/ the next Hitler etc etc.
It's pretty obvious why they fund Wilders. People like him have helped switch the European far-right away from anti-Semitism. They're being savvy - they don't really want the far-right in power, but so long as its going to appeal to a disaffected segment of the population, it's better for their interests that these currents renounce anti-Semitism and turn their attentions elsewhere.
It's a classic game of funding groups across the ideological spectrum to ensure that the political debate remains within certain limits.
Also, I'm pretty sure Jews don't like Muslims.
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