Post: #126

(06-22-2013 10:22 AM)michelin Wrote:  He's been officially charged now with espionage. Wonder where he'll be heading to next.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/21/politi...?hpt=hp_t1

Prior to the Obama administration, three government leakers were charged under the Espionage Act since it's passage during World War I.

Obama's more than doubled that figure in less than two terms. Snowden is the seventh Espionage Act prosecution under this administration.

Post: #127

I am skeptical that the US government even wants to put him on trial. If they do, any evidence of government illegality would be highly relevant and admissible to the case. Do they really want to expose their operations? If he comes back to the US, his main problem will be keeping alive. A trial could actually be good for exposing these most likely illegal operations and he could be exonerated.

Post: #128

I'm sure the government will just have the triads or some other assassin kill him in a similar fashion as they killed that journalist last week.

Post: #129

In the future, I wonder if they will use our webcams on all our laptops aimed directly at our faces to track eye movements when people are reading the net in order to infer our thoughts.

seems like the next logical (albeit merely science fiction at this point) step in 360/24/7 surveillance, to read our minds.

Post: #130

(06-22-2013 10:51 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 10:22 AM)michelin Wrote:  He's been officially charged now with espionage. Wonder where he'll be heading to next.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/21/politi...?hpt=hp_t1

TEchnically it wasn't espionage, although it was a section of the law under the Espionage act.

It was something like taking gubmint property and revealing info.

Three charges, 10 each= 30, I'm guessing they're going to offer him less like maybe 7 -10 if he pleads out.

They know they look bad logging every fucking phone call made in the whole country; they don't want to totally wreck his life, they know this surveillance shit is divisive.

Rather than have him stay indefinitely in a foreign country making them look impotent, they'd rather make a deal and have him come back so they can impose a lenient sentence and then come out with PR regarding surveillance. It might be worth it for him if could do 7 years, he'll be a rock star when he gets out and won't have to worry all the time about getting kidnapped.

All the congress approved that shit so they won't keep making an issue of it forever.

Post: #131

Snowden leak reveals US hacked Chinese cell companies, accessed millions of sms

Snowden is a very smart man and he's two steps ahead of the US. Whether he obtained these specific documents by accident or deliberately, the timing is definitely intentional. In wake of a possible extradition these documents will only increase tensions between the US and China thus giving a chance for snowden to make his next move.

Quote: US government has been hacking Chinese mobile operator networks to intercept millions of text messages, as well as the operator of region’s fibre optic cable network, South China Morning Post writes citing Edward Snowden.

More information on National Security Agency activity in China and Hong Kong has been revealed by SCMP on Sunday, shedding light on statements Snowden made in an interview on June 12.

“The NSA does all kinds of things like hack Chinese cell phone companies to steal all of your SMS data,” Snowden was quoted as saying on the SCMP's website.

In a series of reports the paper claims Snowden has provided proof of extensive US hacking activity in the region.

View of the National Security Agency (NSA) in the Washington suburb of Fort Meade, Maryland (AFP Photo)

The former CIA technician and NSA contractor reportedly provided to the paper the documents detailing specific attacks on computers over a four-year period, including internet protocol (IP) addresses, dates of attacks and whether a computer was still being monitored remotely. SCMP however did not reveal any supporting documents.

The US government has been accused of a security breach at the Hong Kong headquarters of the operator of the largest regional fibre optic cable network operator, Pacnet. Back in 2009, the company’s computers were hacked by the NSA but since then the operation has been shut down, according to the documents the paper claims to have seen.

Pacnet’s network spans across Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines and Singapore and provides connections to 16 data centers for telecom companies, corporations and governments across the region.

The whistleblower has also allegedly revealed the US had viewed millions of text messages by hacking Chinese mobile phone companies. That is a significant claim since the Chinese sent almost billion text messages in 2012 and China Mobile is the world’s largest mobile network carrier.

Experts man their stations at the Threat Operations Center inside the National Security Agency (NSA) in suburban Fort Mead, Maryland (AFP Photo)

In his very first leak to the media, Snowden had already exposed the scale of the American government spying operation on its domestic mobile network operators. He later revealed that the US and the UK possessed technology to access the Blackberry phones of delegates at two G20 summit meetings in London in 2009.

In a third article, SCMP claims that the US on a regular basis has been attacking the servers at Tsinghua University, one of country’s biggest research institutions. The whistleblower said that information obtained pointed to hacking activities, because it contained such details as external and internal IP addresses in the University’s network, which could only have been retrieved by a security breach.

Tsinghua University is host to one of Chinas’ six major backbone networks, the China Education and Research Network (CERNET) containing data about millions of Chinese citizens.

Post: #132

(06-23-2013 01:56 AM)calidude Wrote:  Snowden leak reveals US hacked Chinese cell companies, accessed millions of sms

Snowden is a very smart man and he's two steps ahead of the US. Whether he obtained these specific documents by accident or deliberately, the timing is definitely intentional. In wake of a possible extradition these documents will only increase tensions between the US and China thus giving a chance for snowden to make his next move.

Could this be the gust of wind that creates hurricane USAvC?

Post: #133

Snowden en route to Moscow

Things are getting interesting, I highly doubt Russia will extradite him.

Post: #134

(06-23-2013 02:05 AM)Architekt Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 01:56 AM)calidude Wrote:  Snowden leak reveals US hacked Chinese cell companies, accessed millions of sms

Snowden is a very smart man and he's two steps ahead of the US. Whether he obtained these specific documents by accident or deliberately, the timing is definitely intentional. In wake of a possible extradition these documents will only increase tensions between the US and China thus giving a chance for snowden to make his next move.

Could this be the gust of wind that creates hurricane USAvC?

I doubt but it I think war with the East is inevitable(Russia, China, NK). The Cold War is still in full swing. Hell some Russian FSB are on trial right now.FBI Report

Post: #135

Now Russia and China are both involved... Shit's definitely going to hit the fan here. What if this whole scandal was set up, solely for the purpose of initiating war with their 2 largest enemies?

Post: #136

Talk about an embarrassment to the US government...

If this shit goes through this dude is a genius. Living in Venezuela - a country with hot girls - with govt protection. Wow.

Post: #137

Almost makes me want to get a government intelligence job myself so I can pull off something even better

Post: #138

Oh shit, this is good. Putin's going to make sure he's drowning in pussy and mofo is never coming back. Imagine being a young, good-looking baller American in Russia with Government connections... hahahahahahhaha

EDIT: If I think about it though, if a Russian ever did what Snowden did, they would probably try to kill him.

Post: #139

Nice, Snowden is going to Venezuela and going to live on the beach and bone hot chicas.



His flight is going to be:

Russia to Cuba to Venezuela.

Post: #140

(06-23-2013 10:23 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Nice, Snowden is going to Venezuela and going to live on the beach and bone hot chicas.

CIA could grab him there any time they want. I would be worried about that place if I was him.

In Russia it would be way harder, and would get the Russians way pissed so we probably wouldn't do it.

Post: #141

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http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/20130...230476.htm

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HKSAR Government issues statement on Edward Snowden
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The HKSAR Government today (June 23) issued the following statement on Mr Edward Snowden:

Mr Edward Snowden left Hong Kong today (June 23) on his own accord for a third country through a lawful and normal channel.

The US Government earlier on made a request to the HKSAR Government for the issue of a provisional warrant of arrest against Mr Snowden. Since the documents provided by the US Government did not fully comply with the legal requirements under Hong Kong law, the HKSAR Government has requested the US Government to provide additional information so that the Department of Justice could consider whether the US Government's request can meet the relevant legal conditions. As the HKSAR Government has yet to have sufficient information to process the request for provisional warrant of arrest, there is no legal basis to restrict Mr Snowden from leaving Hong Kong.

The HKSAR Government has already informed the US Government of Mr Snowden's departure.

Meanwhile, the HKSAR Government has formally written to the US Government requesting clarification on earlier reports about the hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by US government agencies. The HKSAR Government will continue to follow up on the matter so as to protect the legal rights of the people of Hong Kong.
Ends/Sunday, June 23, 2013
Issued at HKT 16:05

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Post: #142

Looks like it's going to be Ecuador, not Venezuela. Apparently some diplomatic vehicles with the Ecuadorian flag were waiting at Moscow airport. He'll probably be accompanied by Ecuadorian diplomats en route to Cuba and then Quito, thus giving him protection against a possible American attack that would create a massive diplomatic crisis. They also said a wikileaks attorney accompanied him from HK to Moscow so this was amazingly orchestrated.

Post: #143

This literally reads better than a book

Post: #144

Looks like a highly orchestrated affair

His diplomatic entourage at the airport:







Vans belonging to Russian presidential administration waiting by Aeroflot jets:

Post: #145

snowden's life reads better than the bourne identity.

on a serious note, even though i suspect he could use his fame to leverage a ridiculous amount of top shelf pussy, it worries me that chicks have no idea who he is.

i introduced myself as 'edward snowden' repeatedly over the weekend. only 1 from 16 girls called me out on it. the rest assumed it was just a normal name, completely unaware who he was, name didn't ring a bell.

one girl had never heard of edward snowden, bradley manning, julian assange nor wikileaks. had heard of wikipedia though haha.

Post: #146

I wonder what kind of music Snowden has been listening to during his down time in Hong Kong

I bet he has a good portable speaker system

He seems like the kind of guy who would listen to Chamillionaire

But if I had to guess he's listened to this a few times.

Post: #147

1 out of 16, not bad. Here in Thailand you'd be lucky if 1 in 10,000,000 knew of Edward Snowden.

Post: #148

Upcoming: Navy SEAL mission to extract Snowden from Ecuador.

The USA has no respect for it's Central/South American allies.

Post: #149

zerohedge has been following the story http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-22...kery-prism and pointed out more disturbing details. They also quote Wired magazine.

It's worse than I thought, and worse than I think.

Post: #150

I used to work for Booz, Allen & Hamilton as a mgmt consultant when I was in DC. Looks bad to see the company has lowered its standards. I haven't read much about this case, but I wonder how much of this work was actually subcontracted by Booz, which is often the practice. Booz did OK in the commercial sector back in the day, but it seems like they are almost strictly generating profits from taxpayer funded government contracts now.