Post: #26

(06-03-2013 07:56 AM)ThailandRockstar Wrote:  Bed is due to close soon, was reading about it yesterday, can't remember where to get the link though.

And yeah an Libyan guy I think it was got shot in Spicy.

Quote: Anyhow, lot's of tight young trim dancing around. I thought, being an old fuck I didn't have a chance. I saw one girl in a group sort of dancing by herself. I talked to her for a few minutes and she gave me the "I don't come here often, I'm only out to spend time with my friend" speech. In other words, don't think I'm a slut.

By the end of the night I had her in a hidden corner of the place. We were both drunk...I had her top down and was sucking her tits. Took her to a short-time hotel. When I got her clothes off...she had numerous tats all over her. After we were finished, she told me "she never does things like this." Whatever...doesn't make a difference if she does or doesn't. I didn't pay her but she was a perfect example of a girl all dressed up to look like a normal Thai chick but once you get her to open up she was a straight up cum swallowing ho.

She sounds like a hooker...covered in tats, letting you suck her tits in a club, happy to go to a short time hotel. I guess even hookers will sometimes go to more 'high end' places now and then.

Thong Lor is a much better bet for guys looking to meet middle class girls but the above is not the norm and most guys won't get a one night stand.

I just read about Bed closing in an expat newspaper yesterday, its called Sukhumvit something, they were also bitching about all of those improvised street bars along soi 11, the VW van ones and how they clog up the streets and cause traffic jams. The writer was saying how those spots are frequented by "low-lifes", haha, those are some of my favorite places to have a drink at.

where do you guys think is a decent place to hit up on a Monday? I was thinking going to Spanky's at Nana plaza to spank some strippers and have a few drinks before hitting up a club somewhere, we'll probably end up at Insanity, fuck sakes.

Post: #27

Monday is a poor day to go out anywhere other than tourist and hooker joints.

Post: #28

Well so here's the detailed report from yesterdays LMR.

So meet up this girl in my hotel, she takes about 20 min to park her car, women ha..

ANy way, she turns up and she is definitely 8.. We get some snacks in the champions bar and she is a bit nervous, so I take her to my room to show where we want to go to dinner, as the address is in my iPad.

Once in the room she tells me her feet is hurting so she needs massage.. I thought aha, its easier than I thought.. Was I wrong or what..

I started escalating and she just simply wouldn't kiss me or let me take her top off...

She kept saying how she only kisses her BF and we just met today and only been speaking for 1 days.. Kept on trying for 1-2 hours, then both of us fall asleep. We get up around 10pm and get Scotian's text as he was with his girl and he can't come out..

Any way, thought oh well, might as well go out and have some dinner, so we go out to eat, in the restaurant she said she isn't feeling like eating, however she will have some wine..

Now, it has happened at least 20-30 times before in my life, when a girl doesn't want to get close or get naughty, however they starts to drink and once they have calmed down then their inner beast comes out..

So I thought, oh well, lets see what happens. The original plan was she will leave after the dinner. However after the dinner she comes with me in my room to sleep for couple of hours.. Hmmm. She tells me to wake her up in 1 hour then she will go..

So I wake her up, she said she wants to sleep a bit more.. ok, I thought might as well start to escalate and bring out all the LMR busting moves... from freezing out to dry fucking (having sex with the clothes on, this really gets the girls horny) etc.

Guess what, she was getting turned on, she started to kiss me, took her top off, started rubbing my cock etc.. Then suddenly she goes, oh we have gone too far... then she switches off again..

That was around 3 am at night..

Yes I could have restarted the whole process again and probably could have broke her resistance, however that would have taken another 1 hour or so and I had a meeting in the morning next day, so thought oh well fuck it. So felt asleep, in the morning when we woke up I didn't have any energy to start the whole process again. Besides, I had the meeting in couple of hours and that was in my mind as well.

She kisses me good bye and leaves. Mind you, she has to go to her other regional offices today, so she is out of Bangkok till thursday, so won't see her again in this trip. However, she wants to see me again when I come back in couple of weeks time. So this will be a proper close next time. I guess this time just there wasn't enough comfort and she wasn't proper DTF (down to fuck) girl.

Had a date with another girl today, but she couldn't make it, so we are arranging to meet up around tomorrow morning.. lets see how that goes.. Also tomorrow evening this girl is coming to stay with me, she is taking me to the cinema, so that will be cool.

Last but not least, big night out tonight with Scotian, lets see what we end up doing..

   

Post: #29

I got a snl from Demo in Thonglor before...with a plump chick. Was pretty wasted. Had I been back in the US I would have ended up taking home a real hog for sure. Thankfully even when you slum it in BKK the quality isn't quite so low.

One of my best chicks I met at Demo/Funky. Had to get her number and she came over to watch s movie a couple days later. Many Thai girls from these places won't go for the snl, unless she is really westernized, because she will lose a lot of face and her friends will gossip about that shit ruthlessly.

Levels sucks, as everyone said. Scotian, you will fuckin hate it.

Post: #30

Don't go to levels. Too bad about the girl. When a girl wakes up she is almost always very relaxed. I have banged girls the next morning that wouldn't put out the night before many times. Also don't count on the girl as being in the bag when you come back, Thai girls are flakey if you haven't firmly put your hold on them.

Post: #31

Love charm, forget cinema and dinner dates, anything other than dates at a bar where alcohol is involved is a waste of time.

Thai girls are quite shy and it takes a few drinks to loosen them up. Usually 3-4 drinks and they are drunk and will follow you wherever you tell them to including your room where you'll find no resistance.

Post: #32

Two, maybe three shots of Tequila and the panties get to dropping...more than that and if they're a decent girl, they're useless. If they're a party animal and/or a ho, get ready to get shitfaced.

Post: #33

Yeah the trick is not to get them too drunk as they get sick easily or pass out. Just get a nice buzz going and suggest going back to yours for a movie....game over!

Post: #34

Ah man, what a night..

Brought a girl back to hotel from Insanity, no money talks or anything at the night..Mind you, I have had several girls come and dance with me but they brought up the money talk later on.. However, this girl didn't and when I asked her what she did she mentioned she works in a beauty salon. So I thought aha, its green light..

But as we got up in the morning, before she leaves, the money talk came in.. GRR It was probably one of the most painful moment in my life, saying no to her..

We were sitting in the bed, no one was talking.. she kept crying...then she kept dialling lots of numbers from her phone.. I have no idea what she was texting and who..Mind you, when we were coming back to the hotel she was saying hi (in thai) to couple of guys, so I asked who they were, she mentioned they were police. And I am new in Thailand so I don't know if you got mafia connections or things like that with this sort of girls.... It was really stressful time...

Any way, this drama went on for almost 1 hour and seriously it was unbearable for me..

So I asked how much she wanted, she said 1500B.. Frankly speaking, I didn't really liked her that much either, so paying her even 100B is destroying my soul, as I don't sleep with girls for money.

So I told her again, look, you told me you worked in a salon, you didn't bring up anything about money, so why you asking for money now..

She goes, oh in thailand when you take girls back to your hotel you have to pay bla bla..

Seriously this whole thing was really bugging me and I was ready to pay her even 15000 to kick her out of the room and end all this stress and drama.. Then all of a sudden she goes, pay whatever you have and I will go..

Now, I had all 1000B's notes.. but had some 100's and 20's so all together I think it came to about 400B, so I gave her that and got rid off her..

What a fucking drama and stress.. She had good body and knew what to do in bed.. But frankly speaking, I didn't really liked her that much to begin with (her face wasn't that pretty).. Still brought her back because thought she was normal girl since she mentioned she works in the salon as hair colourists and no money talk happened in Insanity..

Oh well, lesson learned, always make sure you clarify that you are not paying anything at the night, you can clarify it indirectly by saying oh lots of girls came to me, but they asked for money and I said no bla bla..

Seriously, feeling real shit about this thing.. Money isn't the problem, as 400B is like literally nothing, but the fact that I had to pay the girl money for sex is really bugging me..

Also, didn't have good night sleep last night as well since she was in the room and I am not really comfortable when a total stranger is in the room for the first time..

So thinking whether to actually cancel my other date who is coming later on tonight or not.. As I am really feeling low for having to pay for sex. Never done it for last 200-300 chicks in my life, so now since I had to pay and wasn't even attracted to her, its just bugging me big time..

LC

Here are her pics:-

       

Post: #35

Hair salons are casual hooker dens virtually anywhere in Asia and especially so in BKK. Telling you that she worked in the hair salon was actually telling you that she's a pro. She couldn't have been more obvious with you.

Another one bites the dust.

Post: #36

I don't understand "brah", what did you spend the last 7 years of your life in game for?

Post: #37

(06-04-2013 03:13 AM)Fisto Wrote:  I don't understand "brah", what did you spend the last 7 years of your life in game for?

Well, technically those of us who goes out and pulls are in game.

In that sense, since I went to bootcamp 7 years (it was from a very well known company) ago and still go out to pull that counts as being in 7 years in game..

Hope it makes sense..

Any way, I think I have had enough of girls who can't speak or don't understand english.. If I can't have a proper conversation with a girl then I get irritated and frustrated.

So if the girl who is coming tonight can't speak english properly or I have to keep repeating myself again an again then I will send her back..

Also, next time when I am back in BKK in july, I will only go for the white expats who can speak and understand english and won't have the money talk in the morning..

This thai girls are too much drama and too much work for me. Besides, never been attracted to them either.. Some of them are nice, but most of them are not my type.

Post: #38

Boot camp? A well known company? Holy shit they didn't cover "banging in Bangkok 101"???

Honestly it sounds to me like you are making excuses. Part of game is overcoming obstacles and getting the pussy.

They don't speak English, you use frame and body language and jealousy ploys. You've been there one day and had two dates and you can't take it anymore?

Sack up man.

Thai girls don't look good to you?

You must not like feminine women with perfect little bodies and faces.

I noticed that girl had stretch marks so she couldn't have been an upper tier hooker.

(Also, she's at insanity)

Consider this tough love man. You are STILL letting her control the frame by being traumatized.

Love Charm this forum could have saved you heaps of trouble, I even told you it was coming and you still wouldn't listen. Consider this a wake up call as well. You're game needs work if you can't lay some non working Thai girls.

Post: #39

Dude, c'mon. She's got a tramp stamp on her, and she's wearing those shorts at Insanity. That should have given you all the info you needed. If you don't want to pay, stop going to ho zones. Most of these chicks don't give a fuck if you're good looking, they want CASH.

Like I've been saying, some of these Thai chicks come off like they're regular girls when the truth is they're not. Some will try to hook you for a week or two and then get you to cough up 10K-20K for "their time off from work."

When she said that bullshit about "In Thailand when you take the girl to a hotel you have to pay," you really should have responded with "I've been with Thai girls and never paid. I'm sorry if you're a prostitute but I don't pay, I told you, sorry." Then what you do is walk over, open the door up and say "Bye." If she doesn't leave you can either drag her ass out and shut the door (done this a couple of times, usually with them crying) or call downstairs to the hotel and tell them you need their help because this girl will not leave.

You are the man, this is Asia, and if you tell the bitch to hit the road, she needs to respect you. You think some Thai guy is letting them run the show with them? These whores are used to running the show because most farang are too soft or too stupid to simply say, "Get the fuck out honey, you're a ho but I told you I wasn't paying."

I am curious because I haven't seen anything about these places but have any of you went to Rivas, Spasso, CM2, Hard Rock, or Hollywood or Dance Fever on Ratchada? How bout RCA or any of the clubs on Ekkamai?

Like Fisto said, you should be banging at least a few non-pros. Fuck, go to Starbucks, go anywhere but where the whores are if you want regular chicks. You may not get laid on the first night but if you're even a tad bit smooth it shouldn't take you more than three meetings. Otherwise, forget em.

Listen - I used to go to some of the G-Clubs in Bangkok. I'd go every week with a group of guys and every week I'd get numbers. I'd call em, set up lunch and talk to em a bit and get a feel for what they were after. If they're sitting close and touching me, straight away I'd say "let's go somewhere we can be alone." Bam, just like that. Now some of them got paid, others did not. The ones who did not were usually getting 1000 baht tip plus what they were making on the drinks and their time so while I'm sure they wouldn't have minded some cash, I treated them like a regular chick and ignored the payment issue.

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Post: #41

Maybe I shouldn't have taken him to Insanity last night hahaha, we had a pretty good time I thought, hit up Spanky's for a bit before going to the skank fest. I didn't think I was going to shore, I was dancing and talking to plenty of girls but none seemed into me, then Luck Charm left and I stuck around for one last drink then decided to take one last walk around the club and as I was doing so, a girl I had danced with earlier, who was away from her group, came up to me and next thing I know we're headed out the door. I was hammered drunk so decided to pop a boner pill then banged her multiple times until 7am, woke up and we banged again, I just sent her on her way, offered to buy her some street grub but all she wanted was a water. Cost of bang=8 baht. I will admit, she looked a lot better last night than she did this morning, nice little body with big tits but not the prettiest one.

I haven't had too many issues with girls asking for money in Thailand, it happened in Pattaya and the girl asked for money, giving me a sob story about how poor she was but I did what Americaninbangkok advises and told her to hit the road, no big deal really.

Luck Charm, we'll have to hit up Khaosan road tonight if its skanky white girls you're after, I wouldn't mind smoking some shisha and drinking a couple of buckets. If Gift ever finds a pay phone or internet cafe, maybe he'll join us too.

Post: #42

(06-04-2013 04:30 AM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  but have any of you went to CM2, Spasso,

Isn't CM2 a hoes spot nowadays ? ...I have been a regular during many years and it used to be a great place, especially in its heydays during the late 90s/early 2000's, but last time I was there (about three years ago), girls were solely prostitutes, and punters mostly Arabics and Indians. There was a lot of FSU hoes (Uzbek), most pug ugly - of about the 50 I saw there, perhaps just two would have looked at home in a club in Tashkent - and I mean just fit in, not even stand out.

Same for Spasso. It's since a long time the Thai version of BATs or CJs in Jakarta i.e a place where wealthy and unadventurous sex-tourists and expensive hoes congregate. Nevertheless, it maybe has recently changed.

(06-04-2013 04:30 AM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  How bout RCA or any of the clubs on Ekkamai?

+1. Bangkok has a very happening "normal" nightlife. As you said in RCA, Thonglor, Ratchada or Ekkamai come to mind.

(06-04-2013 04:30 AM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  G-Clubs

Agree about G-clubs. Once more, it's been about three years that I haven't been in BKK, but places like Forte or Orbit were crawling with quite hot girls (and I am not a fan of thai girls), who, if they like you, are quite easy to date and more if affinity. But keep in mind that they are working in this kind of place PRIMARILY to elicit your $$$. And furthermore those places are expensive (Orbit had no obligatory member fee and entrance was around 18 000 baths -on the positive side, it included about 10 bottles if my memory serves).

Post: #43

I am already liking ABKK

Post: #44

CM2 has always been a ho spot but nowadays the girls make no bones about selling their asses. In the past they would act like good girls and then hit you up once you blew your load. I used to go out every single night and did a circuit. I'd sit at the Beergarden on Soi 7 before it was the new, less improved Beergarden full of dragons. Then I would shoot some pool, head over to Nana Plaza, go to Nana Disco, then hit some club like Spasso's or Hard Rock, then CM2, then maybe Thermae. Once every so often I'd go to Hollywood or some Thai place. Used to go to Country Road on Suk Soi 19 - got torn down and Hot Shots near MBK.

Depending on the quality available and what I had on the line-up card I would bang once or twice between spots, then hit Thermae for a late night go-go chick who didn't get pulled but maybe was drunk, horny or needed to pay the rent. Sometimes they just didn't want to go home to their shitty apartment, sometimes they just wanted to get laid, sometimes they just wanted a friend. Didn't matter.

Also, for you guys who want to at least attempt somewhere different, there's a place called Chai Ka next to Imperial World on Ladprao Rd. Actually 2 or 3 places all together on one corner. I used to hang out in a Thai style restaurant that had lots of hot waitresses. This wasn't a P4P place and the girls were just regular chicks. I pulled more ass out of the place than anywhere else in Thailand other than Nana Disco. The name of the place was Krathip and it was in The Mall Bangkapi of all places - about two months ago it closed.

Anyhow, the girls from the restaurant, their friends, and lots of the customers, including myself used to go to the place. Thai style, whiskey and mixer place with Thai bands like Big Ass and Sek Loso. If you can even say a few words and can handle sign language, I'm assuming guys with a fair game can score there. I speak Thai and it isn't difficult for me to talk to a Thai chick so when I went I either went just to have fun or I was already in like Flynn.

Post: #45

(06-04-2013 05:35 AM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  CM2 has always been a ho spot

Not always. In the early 2000's it was a mix of "normal" girls and of pros. Then the normal girls began to disappear, living the place to pros and johns.

Post: #46

Just a quick reply.. My date has arrived and thank god she is philipino and can speak perfect english.

Seriously feels so much better to be able to speak to some one like an adult for a change.

She is taking me to the cinema in terminal 21 now, so will write up proper report and will reply to every ones comment tomorrow from the airport as my flight is in the afternoon tomorrow.

Post: #47

(06-04-2013 06:31 AM)Love charm Wrote:  Just a quick reply.. My date has arrived and thank god she is philipino and can speak perfect english.

Seriously feels so much better to be able to speak to some one like an adult for a change.

She is taking me to the cinema in terminal 21 now, so will write up proper report and will reply to every ones comment tomorrow from the airport as my flight is in the afternoon tomorrow.

Get off smartphone. Invade vagina.

Worry about updating after you land.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #48

Conquer those piss flaps!

Post: #49

Lovecharm, you need to stop worrying about the fact you paid 400 measly baht to a hooker and start worrying about the fact her Thai boyfriend could be mad a farang didn't pay for his gambling and drinking money. There's always a chance him and his buddies will be waiting for you outside your hotel one night ready to give you a beating (or worse)....it happens. Many of these bar girls have thai boyfriends who they support financially.

You should have paid that girl because YOU didn't make it clear the night before that you don't pay. You were warned that Insanity is all pro's so you should assume every girl in there is a hooker just like she assumes every guy in there is a sex tourist and plans to pay her. Guys who don't pay tend not to go to after hour whore clubs where all the girls are hookers. Plus tramp stamps, pink hot pants and piercings....does that not scream hooker to you? Regular Thai girls don't have that shit.

By paying 400B you paid anyway so you may as well just given her the going rate...you think because she wasn't good looking enough you can just get away with giving 400B? If she wasn't good looking enough for you then don't fuck her in the first place.

Quote:Any way, I think I have had enough of girls who can't speak or don't understand english.. If I can't have a proper conversation with a girl then I get irritated and frustrated.

So if the girl who is coming tonight can't speak english properly or I have to keep repeating myself again an again then I will send her back..

Also, next time when I am back in BKK in july, I will only go for the white expats who can speak and understand english and won't have the money talk in the morning..

This thai girls are too much drama and too much work for me. Besides, never been attracted to them either.. Some of them are nice, but most of them are not my type.

If you aren't happy they don't speak fluent English then learn Thai FFS! You are in Thailand remember.

Yes stick with the expats...come all the way to BKK to bang girls from back home.

Thai girls are not too much drama and too much work....the drama comes from trying to bang hookers and get away without paying them.

Most regular Thai girls are absolutely fine and no drama at all but you won't find those girls in Insanity or any other whore infested after hour club.

Pretend you're not attracted to slim, feminine, pretty, natural looking girls with dark eyes, long black hair and dainty features all you want but you're just pissed off because you made a stupid mistake and are angry at yourself for being so dumb.

Quote:I am curious because I haven't seen anything about these places but have any of you went to Rivas, Spasso, CM2, Hard Rock, or Hollywood or Dance Fever on Ratchada? How bout RCA or any of the clubs on Ekkamai?

Where is Rivas?

Spasso and CM2 are full blown hooker joints these days.

Hollywood and Dance Fever are OK as is Zaleng but I prefer SNOP.

RCA is always a good bet at the weekends I think, plenty going on, lots of choice and a reasonable chance of getting some action.

Ekkamai and Thong Lor also being good choices if you hit places like Funky, Demo, Muse, Curve, Safe House etc.

Quote:You're game needs work if you can't lay some non working Thai girls.

Agreed. It's one of the easiest places in the world to get with regular, good looking, Thai girls. But going to bars and clubs to find them isn't the answer hitting the pavement during the day or using the dating sites is a much better option.

Quote:Seriously feels so much better to be able to speak to some one like an adult for a change.

She is taking me to the cinema in terminal 21 now, so will write up proper report and will reply to every ones comment tomorrow from the airport as my flight is in the afternoon tomorrow.

Looking forward to you complaining tomorrow about how the date never ended in sex because you went on a cinema date....you were warned. Cinema dates suck anywhere in the world but especially in Thailand.

Btw unless you have lied about how long you plan to be in BKK any girl who meets you from the dating sites is likely to be a bar girl or a farang slut constantly on the cock carousel because most regular girls on there aren't interested in meeting some guy who's in and out in a few days or even a few weeks.

You might find yourself getting hit up for money later again.

Quote:I haven't had too many issues with girls asking for money in Thailand, it happened in Pattaya and the girl asked for money, giving me a sob story about how poor she was but I did what Americaninbangkok advises and told her to hit the road, no big deal really.

Are you regularly picking up chicks from Insanity etc? Do you make it clear before hand you aren't paying or go with LoveCharms method of assuming just because she didn't mention it you don't need to pay?

Post: #50

(06-04-2013 08:42 AM)ThailandRockstar Wrote:  Are you regularly picking up chicks from Insanity etc? Do you make it clear before hand you aren't paying or go with LoveCharms method of assuming just because she didn't mention it you don't need to pay?

First time I shored a girl from Insanity, but not the first time I did it from a Thai night club, I've actually shored more from the street bars on Sukhumvit than I have in clubs. I treat the situation as I would at any club anywhere in the world: meet the girl, build attraction and dance, maybe buy a drink or two then bounce back to my hotel and get my bang on. Last night she made no mention of money and she didn't in the morning either, we woke up and showered then banged again and I sent her on her way. She was happy, I was happy, it was a good time, no drama whatsoever.

Generally, I don't make it clear that I'm not paying, unless I get the vibe that she's going to ask, this has worked out so far, as I say it only happened once that a girl asked for money in the morning and I handled the situation quite easily by telling her that I don't pay and respectfully telling her to leave. Honestly, if I were in a situation where a girl started freaking the fuck out and threatening to call the police or her thug boyfriend, I would just give her a thousand Baht to get rid of her, but thankfully I haven't been in that situation.

I've said this before, I'm not a huge fan of shoring but it is what it is, an easy way to get laid for a guy who doesn't want to invest the time into lining up on-line dates or learning Thai and making the effort to bust into the higher end, RCA scene. Actually, I regret not going to RCA to at least check it out, but as is the general consensus on this forum, upper class Thai girls aren't interested in a farang guy just passing though BKK, which is what I've been. Although I've spent about five weeks here in total and really like the city, I can only handle about 5-7 days at a time of BKK.