(08-30-2015 08:55 PM)brob Wrote:  I think once a girl gets out of college and no longer has to worry about the reputation factor as much, she'll probably be more open to dating older guys. Like 23-26 age range. I think the mentality of the 18-22 year old sorority girl is, "Which Big Man on Campus can I get with that will boost my status and reputation?"

Yeah, my experience has been the opposite. College girls want to bang older guys off-campus to protect their reputation. Most hot/sorority college girls I meet in big cities have no desire to date a guy unless he's over 26/27 at least.

a 30 or 37-yr old successful guy >>>> any undergraduate on campus. Besides, if they really wanted to bang a hot, popular classmate they would. I don't remember any guys turning down hot DTF chicks in college.

Once out of college, you're right in that they do not care how old you are if you can demonstrate value.

Wrong thread

I don't suggest this but:

If you total your car in a gnarley wreck...send those pics to plates and potential girls you have lined up.

The same day I got in my accident a plate came over and banged.

I had another girl last night that I flaked on - because the one above came over.


Then this happened today:

This what I thought cute 21 year old black girl came over, she has these short knots on her hair, wasn't that attractive.

Her personality was cute....until I saw......HAIRY ARMPITS.



My dick shrunk so fucking fast and I got her out in 10 minutes.

It's funny a regular plate sent me a booty thong photo while the above girl was around, I sent her a pic of my totaled car - can't wait to see her response.

I can't believe I didn't screen better on this black girl, she's automatically nexted.


I'm finally headed back into work tommorow, having my LTR be my driver for a bit.

I'm just glad I got all my limbs and everything seems pretty normal besides some bumps, cuts, and bruises.

Fucking hell, once again I'm reminded just how much the game is often feast or famine. Just had two plates call it quits on me this week alone. I've been working the day game approach muscle as best I can, to the effect of 6 numbers, but I'm not expecting very much because the approaches and rambling were very sloppy and out of practice.

I am hosting a party for freshmen this weekend to try and secure an easy lay to bounce back, but Lord have mercy.

I was out with polar and MMX2010 last night. At my suggestion, we went to a rooftop place near where I work. I went with a girl there a couple of months ago and the demographics looked good, albeit it was a Friday night. This would make all the difference.

Not much went on in the way of game last night, it was mostly just the three of us catching up since Roosh came to town. One girl who was already with a guy asked MMX2010 to take a picture with her guy. He instantly busted on her. For someone who said he only began a couple of months ago he was on a roll, and made me realize I still have a lot to learn. The three of us wound up teasing her for a long while until I finally agreed to take the picture.

There was a girl at another spot that I should have approached. I went with my standard day game routine of intelligence gathering to weigh my chances (let's just call it an NT type thing). This sounds bad, but in practice, I'm usually right (about 75% of the time). I came to realize that you have to limit this in night game. There's just too many moving parts so you have to move quickly. With day game and looser demographics you can afford to be a bit more laid back and calculating. Hopefully she's a regular so I can make up for my mistake sometime.

Overall, the demographics weren't great, but it was a Thursday, and it's a nice little spot to catch up with fellow RVF guys, which is what matters more.

(09-02-2015 04:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Totaled my recently new whip, bummed.

Between the lacerations and blood dripping, ambulance, ER, I was worried about insurance going up and the fact I won't be able to get motorcycle now.

All my limbs, nothing broken, just bruised.

Good news is the forum is back up - still smell inter cooler fluid for some reason or maybe it's the air bag dust.

Probably because the dust is still in your hair. You'll smell it for a few days. Get well, and stay safe.

(09-04-2015 11:12 AM)Libertas Wrote:  I was out with polar and MMX2010 last night. At my suggestion, we went to a rooftop place near where I work. I went with a girl there a couple of months ago and the demographics looked good, albeit it was a Friday night. This would make all the difference.

Not much went on in the way of game last night, it was mostly just the three of us catching up since Roosh came to town. One girl who was already with a guy asked MMX2010 to take a picture with her guy. He instantly busted on her. For someone who said he only began a couple of months ago he was on a roll, and made me realize I still have a lot to learn. The three of us wound up teasing her for a long while until I finally agreed to take the picture.

There was a girl at another spot that I should have approached. I went with my standard day game routine of intelligence gathering to weigh my chances (let's just call it an NT type thing). This sounds bad, but in practice, I'm usually right (about 75% of the time). I came to realize that you have to limit this in night game. There's just too many moving parts so you have to move quickly. With day game and looser demographics you can afford to be a bit more laid back and calculating. Hopefully she's a regular so I can make up for my mistake sometime.

Overall, the demographics weren't great, but it was a Thursday, and it's a nice little spot to catch up with fellow RVF guys, which is what matters more.

Libertas, polar, MMX2010! Great to hear that you guys met up again. I can easily picture the three of you together and it is a seamless combination if ever there was one.

Libertas, just a quick observation from one NT to another. (Believe me, if you look up INTP in any Myers-Briggs reference you will find a picture and profile of me.) When it comes to the chicks, you simply have to unlearn your innate inclination to gather intel and calculate the odds and angles before making your move.

This may seem futile or impossible, but in fact your will to act in a certain way is the most important thing there is. The Last Psychiatrist -- an amazing blogger whom our friend MMX2010 also rates very highly, as I recall -- sums up this essential insight tidily at the end of an unrelated blog post:

Quote:Every choice you make influences your identity, and not the other way around; the sooner you accept this, the sooner you can become the person you want to be. You get to pick who you are. Go pick.

This I know to be true from my own long experience. I wasn't always the gregarious pussy-sniffing hound I am today; one day many years ago I just decided to start acting a part, as if in a stage performance. And over time I became that man I had once willed to play. You can do it -- just will it so.

(09-04-2015 11:12 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Not much went on in the way of game last night, it was mostly just the three of us catching up since Roosh came to town. One girl who was already with a guy asked MMX2010 to take a picture with her guy. He instantly busted on her.

Dude needs to get one of those nasal sprays.

(09-04-2015 03:01 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:12 AM)Libertas Wrote:  I was out with polar and MMX2010 last night. At my suggestion, we went to a rooftop place near where I work. I went with a girl there a couple of months ago and the demographics looked good, albeit it was a Friday night. This would make all the difference.

Not much went on in the way of game last night, it was mostly just the three of us catching up since Roosh came to town. One girl who was already with a guy asked MMX2010 to take a picture with her guy. He instantly busted on her. For someone who said he only began a couple of months ago he was on a roll, and made me realize I still have a lot to learn. The three of us wound up teasing her for a long while until I finally agreed to take the picture.

There was a girl at another spot that I should have approached. I went with my standard day game routine of intelligence gathering to weigh my chances (let's just call it an NT type thing). This sounds bad, but in practice, I'm usually right (about 75% of the time). I came to realize that you have to limit this in night game. There's just too many moving parts so you have to move quickly. With day game and looser demographics you can afford to be a bit more laid back and calculating. Hopefully she's a regular so I can make up for my mistake sometime.

Overall, the demographics weren't great, but it was a Thursday, and it's a nice little spot to catch up with fellow RVF guys, which is what matters more.

Libertas, polar, MMX2010! Great to hear that you guys met up again. I can easily picture the three of you together and it is a seamless combination if ever there was one.

Libertas, just a quick observation from one NT to another. (Believe me, if you look up INTP in any Myers-Briggs reference you will find a picture and profile of me.) When it comes to the chicks, you simply have to unlearn your innate inclination to gather intel and calculate the odds and angles before making your move.

This may seem futile or impossible, but in fact your will to act in a certain way is the most important thing there is. The Last Psychiatrist -- an amazing blogger whom our friend MMX2010 also rates very highly, as I recall -- sums up this essential insight tidily at the end of an unrelated blog post:

Quote:Every choice you make influences your identity, and not the other way around; the sooner you accept this, the sooner you can become the person you want to be. You get to pick who you are. Go pick.

This I know to be true from my own long experience. I wasn't always the gregarious pussy-sniffing hound I am today; one day many years ago I just decided to start acting a part, as if in a stage performance. And over time I became that man I had once willed to play. You can do it -- just will it so.

Link to TLP post? That's a great quote.

(09-04-2015 03:01 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  Libertas, just a quick observation from one NT to another. (Believe me, if you look up INTP in any Myers-Briggs reference you will find a picture and profile of me.) When it comes to the chicks, you simply have to unlearn your innate inclination to gather intel and calculate the odds and angles before making your move.

I'm an INTJ myself and find myself doing this without any thought at all. Even when I'm setting up first dates I refuse to even go through with it if the logistics, days of the week, amount of time available etc. are not favorable to me. I'm sure that I've lost bangs to this mindset in the past but it helps me get in the best possible state of mind before going out by knowing that I have everything lined up that's within my control.

(08-31-2015 08:12 PM)redbeard Wrote:  I'm interested to hear about spider game.

Overall its pretty simply logistics. I have a nice house in an upscale beach community where people come from all over to visit or vacation. There are 11 bars and restaurants within a 3 block radius of my house. My front patio faces a street where people often park to go to those places. I often just sit (like a spider)on my patio with a cocktail / wine and cigar either on my laptop or reading. Almost daily there are groups of girls that park and walk by on the sidewalk within 10 ft of where I'm sitting. I look up and say "hi". Sometimes they smile and say it first...then it's game on. I usually ask where they are going and offer "local" knowledge, suggestions, bartenders name, etc. On occasion I've been invited to join after a few minutes of chatting. The best case scenario is when they come back by after drinking for a couple of hours and I'm still there or having people over. If I've chatted with them on the way in they will usually stop to chat on the way back to their car. If they're attractive enough I'll invite them in. My game consists of 95% logistics

(09-04-2015 03:01 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  Libertas, just a quick observation from one NT to another. (Believe me, if you look up INTP in any Myers-Briggs reference you will find a picture and profile of me.) When it comes to the chicks, you simply have to unlearn your innate inclination to gather intel and calculate the odds and angles before making your move.

This may seem futile or impossible, but in fact your will to act in a certain way is the most important thing there is. The Last Psychiatrist -- an amazing blogger whom our friend MMX2010 also rates very highly, as I recall -- sums up this essential insight tidily at the end of an unrelated blog post:

Quote:Every choice you make influences your identity, and not the other way around; the sooner you accept this, the sooner you can become the person you want to be. You get to pick who you are. Go pick.

This I know to be true from my own long experience. I wasn't always the gregarious pussy-sniffing hound I am today; one day many years ago I just decided to start acting a part, as if in a stage performance. And over time I became that man I had once willed to play. You can do it -- just will it so.

Yeah, I've found that it works well in day game but at night when things are faster paced and there's less space it sets you back.

The good part about the NT personality for game is the leadership aspect, and you will have things planned and lined up by nature.

Girl strolling at me perfect dark tan tight body short shorts tank top log hair, big reflective aviator sunglasses in a walkway. Could be Asian or Latina can't tell. Could be 20-22yo.

Go direct take my sunglasses off first. She takes off hers. A 7.5-8.0 body now gut punch a 6.0 face.

Is it not insane how much the eyebrow, eyes, and cheek bone little circular areas make up such a huge amount of attractiveness compared to the entire body.

I hate sunglasses on girls.

She's leaving town soon for good and very eager to hang out. I think I will only do this if she comes directly to my place.

She was wearing zero make up though... maybe she can doll up nicely.

Hanging with a cute 22yo Dominican girl this week. Went to a nice dinner last night which she insisted on picking up and was late to work this morning because she woke me up with my dick in her mouth. Sometimes I miss the stability of a longer term relationship, but when I had one I missed these moments of the "anything to win you over" courtship phase even more.

I just had a date at a bar and grill I used to frequent. I haven't been there in 3-4 months and they had a new waitress and she had a damn near perfect body and a nice face. She was a solid 8.

I still fucked my date but all I kept doing was thinking about the waitress and how I wanted to fuck her. I think I might go back to the bar. It's only a 20 minute walk, I'm drunk, I want that fat ass and to fuck this waitress.

Fuck it! Its early. I'm kicking the date out and going back to the bar.

The last person has left the freshman party. Epic failure to escalate and execute on my part. It shows how much I still have yet to learn and develop even on easy mode.

First one was a ridiculously cute and thin Danish girl who grew up in Bahrain (I resisted asking her about Dubai porta potties) who I attempted some brief dancing with. Failed because my dance game is abysmal. Wake up call; lessons and advice here I come. Still a completely undeveloped aspect. Fizzled out and I ejected.

Second one came on much stronger, rando who knew someone of someone but who cares. She was draped over me and almost reached kissing territory, but I held back because it felt way too early. Should have suggested she check out my room and took her upstairs. Golden opportunity missed and she left with friends.

Hail mary tomorrow is club fair and hopefully I can get some numbers from people who are interested in joining clubs, for which I can provide advice.

@swuglyfe: play music in your room and find your rythm or get lessons (salsa, bachata, hip hop, etc). Sometimes knowing a few movies can get you far.

Trying to avoid getting friend zoned by the this Asian broad I am trying to swoop. It was a social circle work thing and once she hinted she was quitting I drew out the fangs to go in (I don't like to shit where I eat with work, unless I know they won't last long or they hint they are quitting). The group has been mad since I've been bailing on their shitty plans, its 90% girls in this crew and I don't like doing wack girl shit which I know is a waste of time. I bailed on them other day because I knew it would be a shit day, after they all moan to me individually how that day sucked.... Of course it did. One reason is because the plans were wack, the other is because you didn't have kosko there.

This Asian broad hits me up to see a wack show tonight, u made sure its just me and her then I can at least attempt to escalate, but it would have to be after the show. I've never run game in venues I am not cool with and this one won't be like that. Do I do cuddle game? Yuck. Really out of NY element with this show so I gotta figure out how to work it in my favor.

I can attempt to venue change heavy after this show. At least if I can transition it to MY game when the sun sets then I am auto pilot.

Last time we chilled I got clock blocked by a dude we had worked with. He was drunk and dropped the truth when she was in the bathroom that he only came to the bar were at was because he saw her via the window when he walked by (he did not see me though as it was dark, but obviously say her sitting with a dude). When he said that I knew what was up....

So for today ,I had to take plans by the horns here. I get the feeling her friend bailed on plans because then prices she told me for tickets are way lower then what's online lol. So I had to take the keys to these plans, was getting annoyed with her tryna to plot details so I called her up and basically took over the plans. She is now working around my schedule and I am telling where to meet me and the time. Now this gives me time to plot where to venue change, etc.

I feel much more at ease. I could tell she was getting pissed off with me not conforming out front (plus I didn't want to look indecisive) but I hate wack shit. This show is going to be mad wack but she will be drunk as we are pre-gaming in a park (tiny and gets drunk off one beer) and I can align it to venue change to Parkdale and take her to my spots with a plan b of pool hopping if I need to caveman the shit since this show will be outside I will have a towel to sit on...which surprise... will be used for the pool after.

Its funny women don't know details. Before she spoke I already googled the event and knew the pricing and venue and played stupid. I already remembered she she told me her area she stays in, so now .. Just by chanse ..I am.going to be close by working out which just by chance.... has a beer store right beside...

Funny how all that magically works...

Its funny because women don't pick up on these details men put in. I flipped the script on this broad and she has no idea lol.

Now its crunch time for me to get a meal made, laundry, gym, find venue changea, and hopefully a haircut all by 5pm. Haircut is probably getting scrapped. This is the part I hate because typically I would have a full day to plot this all out.

Will report back with the details of course. I'm going all in tonight since last time I didn't get a make out in. Not about this take it slow shit, especially with somebody who I work with.

This broad is my verseral response to fatties though. Tiny Asian girl with no tits and a tiny ass but not a ounce of fat on her. She is midly perverted like me and has not much of a body count (which I suspect from screening her) since she does not approach dudes and the only dudes that approach her are white guys which she does not like.

Just moved into my new place, a nice house in the major city in which I live. I have been focusing mostly on tinder game, and had three girls over three nights in a row, got the bang on two. I wasn't feeling the first one, other two were pretty hot. Second one is a taller brunette, 20, I'd say a 7/10. Fucked her twice and she was gone before I even woke up, been texting me ever since and sending me nudes. Third one is a blonde with an amazing body 8/10, 21. She came over and we got drunk together, and she was actually kind of cool. She speaks only when spoken to. That's two more in the rotation but one dropped off this week. Oh well. I'm off the next 4 days so I'm gonna see if I can get a couple new ones over. The LTR and I just broke up so I'm trying to build a harem. Never getting a LTR again.

Two 0 effort meets last night

I left work early because parts of my body are still sore or hurting from the accident earlier this week.



The first girl drove 45 minutes to my pad, COMPLETE let down, 22 year old mexican girl from POF, must of had a bad acne outbreak, skrillex shaved side of her head, a bit chubby.

She was talkative while we watched a movie, shave gave me a half assed massage. I kissed her, she seemed extremely nervous an shy.

Barely kissed me back - I know this isn't going anywhere.

I move the convo to the kitchen where I'm meal prepping for the week, about 10 minutes into it I walk her out and send her on her way.

I'm not seeing her again - we texted today, I called her out on her kissing me. Sh wants another chance, sorry but you just didn't pass the boner test.



The second girls showed up an hour later.

She's 23, drove about 30 minutes, she came inside, I got dressed, she drove us to get coffee.

We chat a bit - I can tell she isn't used to a guy that's sarcastic and smooth. She didn't know how to react except with sass - of course she was laughing.

She was definitely cuter than the girl who left, had glasses, her face was clearer, unfortunately she also had some pudge.

We chat, she wants to "further" her educated, I laughed and said she wants to own a house without owning one. A masters isn't a good ROI unless you're for sure getting paid more. We debate that a little bit, my common sense shut her down.

She loves her hometown (which isn't great at all) compared to another city out here that pays more money and home values are way more.

She was being retarded, and explained there is a reason people commute to that city and live out here.

I have her drive us home, we watch a certain movie, I start making out with her. She said me biting her lip hurt and that she didn't like it. I can tell this girl is inexperienced, possible virgin, and would be boring.

I fall in and out of sleep out watching the movie, then the movie stopped for some reason, I get her out, and I pass out.

I'm not contacting her again.



That's 3 girls who came over and didn't pass the boner test.

I need to step back and reanalyze, maybe this notch drought is lowering my standards and I'm just trying to get anything right now.

I'm pretty sure that's what it is, but it's not like I lost much time.

I finished everything I needed to do, the girls drove to my house, I spent $7 bucks over 3 meeting 3 new girls.

It's also not like I can go anywhere since my whips totaled.

Hope you gents are having a great Labor Day Weekend.

Had a blast Friday night, unfortunately I'm pretty fatigued at the moment and don't feel like doing much. Getting back into the gym is going to be awesome. So far none of my leads have been receptive in texting me back. One of the flight attendants was pretty DTF the night we met, I should have escalated and smashed then but the circumstances weren't too great.

Online dating has not been rewarding at all. I've found my game to be sharper after doing some day/night game. The key to ending my spell just may be getting out and approaching more girls that I'm attracted to.

@Kaotic the drought is hell, I've got a number from a possible fatty with a fatty (booty), some 5.6 from Tinder...and I'm just not interested in really pursuing those. the 5 told me "Don't make me regret giving you this number!", as if I'd hit the jackpot. I need something decent. With my game better now, I'm sure given the opportunity, I'd do well with 7s and 8+s.

Drinking might be fine for things like night game, but for online game and daygame, you should be sober?

Thoughts?

(09-07-2015 02:58 AM)dassad5a5 Wrote:  Drinking might be fine for things like night game, but for online game and daygame, you should be sober?

Thoughts?

I dunno. I get quite a buzz from a few glasses of champagne/prosecco at lunch or brunch. The feeling of being a little tipsy whilst the rest of the drones go about their daily routine amps me up.

You've just gotta be careful that you don't develop a dependancy.

Things I find hard to believe.

London, DC, San Francisco, Toronto, Buenos Aires

It seems weird to me that an entire cosmopolitan city it's impossible for a guy with game not to get regular one night stands with reasonably attractive women.

Like something is in the water and these chicks actually require affection and long term commitment in order to do what is natural in the rest of the Western world.

No free rides in Riyadh, sure.
No nookie in Nome, Alaska. Okay
No bangs in Bangalore, plausible.

But if there is no language barrier, what the problem is?

Does appealing to a girl's basic biology not work?
Is this a new sub species of human?

Somehow chicks in D.C. (where I've never had trouble, lack of talent notwithstanding) and SF are more moral or interested in the long term than a typical Southern city?

I can't believe it © T-Pain.

Same with lawyers and feminists.

The argument is that some educational or logical pursuit has somehow changed their brain chemistry and the result is lack of libido or switching teams.

The only problem I've ever found with professional women is that they take themselves out of the game for work. But the game for women is a serious relationship with a suitable man.

A chick will be very logical, rational, and predictable if you put her down in front of a computer. She'll filter by all the requisite stats, and then make her date decision off of whatever pic makes her somewhat interested.

That same chick doesn't have that level of cold calculation when she's jammed up at the bar in her new non stretched out heels. Hell, she's not that logical at work half the time.

Rant over.

Now is it better in other places? Sure. I'd take any city in Texas over DC, and I'd kill to be back in NYC. I can't imagine a true paradise like in Africa, EE, Latin America, or Asia.

I also rant at the end of summer. I'll be cursing this place come November.

WIA

(09-07-2015 05:13 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Things I find hard to believe.

London, DC, San Francisco, Toronto, Buenos Aires

It seems weird to me that an entire cosmopolitan city it's impossible for a guy with game not to get regular one night stands with reasonably attractive women.

Quote:with game

Quote:with game