Post: #26

I don't want to get off topic, but Don I think I would 4 bet there the majority of the time.

Post: #27

You are better off playing pot limit omaha these days.

Post: #28

(05-23-2013 11:02 AM)Don Wrote:  Oh, and to answer the question in the OP: "how much can you make", i'll leave some graphs here

That's a pretty nasty $150K downswing in your tourney results. Gotta have a lot of mental fortitude to ride those out.

Post: #29

I am a RVF'er who makes his living from playing poker, primarily online. I make well over enough to live comfortably but it's definitely a very very difficult game that has increasingly small edges these days. In order to keep my game sharp and stay ahead of the others (mostly pros) online, I constantly study the game (Pot Limit Omaha) and think about it more than anything else in my life. You have to be incredibly passionate and naturally intelligent to beat the games online these days. It also hurts your social life a lot if you can't find the right balance. I would recommend looking into other areas of work to make money if you can... online poker is an extremely hard way to make an easy living (No boss, no time constraints).

Post: #30

Another pro player here. i play 500nl Zoom on Stars primarily.

One thing i will add that i think could be quite relevant to a lot of posters here is that a lot of the personality traits that sucessful pro players have seem to show up in the manosphere quite a lot.

I'm an INTJ on the Myers Briggs scale. I know Roissy had a post about MBTI personality types a while back and it seemed like a lot of commenters were also INTJ/INTP or something very similar. I guess that's why we gravitated to game and self improvement. INTJ is known as the "strategist". We are good at breaking down the finer intracies of game and social dynamics and if we can manage to break out of our usual introverted personality type, in small calculated bursts, when we go out to pick up women, it can be a very powerful combination.

Naturally, this personality type is by far the most common amongst successful high stakes poker pros. Check out this thread in the 2+2 high stakes NL forum: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/hig...os-774716/

INTJ and INTP in particular - all massively overrepresented among successful players. Bear in mind that is the high stakes forum so most of the guys posting there are successful winning pro players, players who were good enough to beat small-mid stakes games and have moved up to HSNL. Even if they are breakeven at HSNL, i would say almost all could easily crush SSNL-MSNL if they had to move down.

You can for sure make a very nice living at even SSNL stakes (say 100NL) if you are willing to put in the hours. Rakeback alone could net you $50k+ a year playing around 6 hours a day (dont quote me on that, i haven't done the math but i know i'm not too far off).

The game is tougher than it ever has been for sure but there is certainly money (and potentially VERY good money) to be made if you're willing to put in the efort to study the game, read strat forums, maybe get coaching and work hard.

I love it, been playing professionally for 8 years now. The upsides greatly outweigh the downsides. Like anything though, you get out of it what you put in.