Post: #51

^^ I gotcha we're speaking different wave lengths

Post: #52

(05-11-2013 02:52 AM)Akula Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 01:51 AM)Dillon Wrote:  There's nothing "wrong" with western sexual marketplace.

System is working exactly as its supposed to. Demand vs Supply.

Women need a man for resources and security. Man need a woman for sex.

I hear what u are saying about the 'marketplace' but I really don't think it's a functioning, laissez-faire market anymore in the West. In fact I think everything is currently wrong with the Western sexual marketplace. The entire system has been corrupted by government/societal intervention

The idea of a laissez-faire marketplace is hilariously naive. DO you think the BilderRothschildfellers, or for that matter a super model type chick, would EVER let a marketplace be free?! What they want and sell is the idea it should be free-- for THEM.

Goverments arise out of social phenomenon, because someone somewhere wants them, and
"social intervention" is part of the human marketplace.

How do you think gubmints arise, from aliens in flying saucers? If it's the Bilderchilds lol then it's a social group. Sometimes people decide they're tired of the assholes like the guy that owned that building where over 1000 people are dead now in Bangladesh and start to demand-- god forbid-- building inspectors. They establish rules and then, sometimes they kill you for not following bad rules, like for writing a book the Commies didn't like.

All this stuff comes from people, it may end up looking like it didn't. The false underlying assumption is that the world is fair.

Post: #53

I do agreed with Jariel on this. As of late there has been a "I hate women" vibe. I myself have been sucked into this.

This is not what we are about. We love women. That's why we are players.

We love women so much that we can't stay with jut one.

If we didn't love women then we will be homosexuals.

We need to stop acting as if all women are the same.

Certain type of women are good for us players depending on what our current needs are.

When a women doesn't meet your needs anymore just say "Goodbye nice meeting you" don't write a thread about hating her for what she is.

The same women that were "perfect" for you as a player years ago are not today.

Post: #54

All the points made are true but what does it tell a newbie (like myself)? Should I just quit and sit at home because with all this, it looks like i'm never going to do well.

No! I'm still going to go out and approach because I have a lot of FUN macking on chicks.

The key is to have fun because if you're having fun, all the things that the OP mentioned is just noise.

Post: #55

(05-11-2013 04:35 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  All the points made are true but what does it tell a newbie (like myself)? Should I just quit and sit at home because with all this, it looks like i'm never going to do well.

No! I'm still going to go out and approach because I have a lot of FUN macking on chicks.

The key is to have fun because if you're having fun, all the things that the OP mentioned is just noise.

Your right, the key is fun.

Quote:1.) "6's thinking and acting like they are 9's":

This should be hilarious to you.

Personally, it is a constant source of amusement.

Quote:2.) "Women are juggling cocks, like they are in the Barnum and Bailey Circus":

Who really cares if you are not married to them?

Better for you. Easier to get rid of them.

Quote:3.) "Bitches be flakey as shit, from the smartphone to the bedroom, a flake seems to be around the corner":

Again, who cares?

Her loss. Next.

This can also be minimized by calling instead of texting and tight front Game if one so chooses.

Quote:4.) "Attention whoring has gotten completely out of hand":

Good for them.

Hope they enjoy it. Don't feed into it, and it's not your problem.

Quote:5.) "This is a toss up, thirsty bros, choosy Suzies, and cock-blocking":

This is more a problem in lower end venues. Up the venue, and the problem dissipates.

Bottom line, just go out, have fun and swoop a new girl.

Girl problems are easy to solve: just go swoop a new girl.

Post: #56

Great posts in this thread.

It's easy to get jaded and angry if you're new to the game when you have limited life experiences, but as I'm learning you just have to acknowledge it and move on.

For example that seeking arrangement game thread. It blew my mind how many hot girls were on that site and how easy the dudes here were getting pussy. I thought about it for a while and they are exchanging pussy for money they will use for fun experiences. Beauty is a woman's currency and the currency of men is providing a woman with an experience. Whether it's the excitement she gets when seeing you, the dread when youre gone. Or maybe it's a place you two go together.

The whole point of a be the prize mentality is tobe so quality that the girl can't help but to be drawn to you. She revels in the experience you give her even if it's only being in your presence and giving you sexual pleasure.

You can think you're the prize all you want but if you can't offer a woman anything youre not really a prize. You have to be able to offer her an experience she can't get elsewhere. Many newbies get angry because they're having little success and can't figure out why. It's because they have nothing out of the ordinary, but as they start improving their social skillls/game, lifting. Dressing better etc.they have somethingfor the girl to be attracted to.

Post: #57

Correct.

This is exactly why I shake my head when I see guys in college focusing entirely on game and pussy while their future earnings potential goes down the drain.

If you're feeling bad when you get turned down by a girl or if a girl doesn't call you back, you've clearly lived a very privileged life where the hardest thing you've had to do was walk up to a girl with a nice C rack and ass to spit some line.

People are magnetically drawn to real successful people because they have overcome much more than a few measly flakes and bitchy attitudes. That's real game, when people need to be around you. The rest is just social engineering for short term pleasure, as always, the short term view gets you burned because you get addicted and all your talent is now used up learning how to fabricate value rather than actually having it.

(05-13-2013 11:22 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Great posts in this thread.

It's easy to get jaded and angry if you're new to the game when you have limited life experiences, but as I'm learning you just have to acknowledge it and move on.

For example that seeking arrangement game thread. It blew my mind how many hot girls were on that site and how easy the dudes here were getting pussy. I thought about it for a while and they are exchanging pussy for money they will use for fun experiences. Beauty is a woman's currency and the currency of men is providing a woman with an experience. Whether it's the excitement she gets when seeing you, the dread when youre gone. Or maybe it's a place you two go together.

The whole point of a be the prize mentality is tobe so quality that the girl can't help but to be drawn to you. She revels in the experience you give her even if it's only being in your presence and giving you sexual pleasure.

You can think you're the prize all you want but if you can't offer a woman anything youre not really a prize. You have to be able to offer her an experience she can't get elsewhere.

Post: #58

@OG- I went through a phase like this as well- I was on the other side of the coin- the dude "nice girls" w/BF would cheat on. Really makes you feel jaded. Not a brag, but I went on a streak of 4-5 girls w/BFs or married ("Innocent girls" if you saw on the street, youd be mindfucked) + finding out my f-buddy who had been banging me for over a year, had gone through 3 BFs and not banged ANY of them. Huge WTF.

You can't let it bring you down.

That why I said in another thread- the "manosphere" can poison your mood. Its good to realize that humanity has this potential for shady, skeezy behavior, but you really gotta step away from it (at least day to day).

Your sanity will improve, your mood will improve, and better quality of girls vibed w/me.

Post: #59

(05-13-2013 11:29 AM)DVY Wrote:  @OG- I went through a phase like this as well- I was on the other side of the coin- the dude "nice girls" w/BF would cheat on. Really makes you feel jaded.

I've been the other guy so many times, and it's not just "party girls" that are cheaters, that I am hopelessly jaded on trusting a woman. Girlfriend's, fiance's, wives, been with them all... granted I was young and eager so didn't think about the morality of it at the time, but looking back, I don't know whether it's good to know the horrible truth about fidelity and be jaded, or whether I would have preferred to be naive. I'm like Cypher in the matrix... man, why did I have to take the red pill, hah.

Post: #60

(05-10-2013 08:38 PM)jariel Wrote:  Furthermore, everyone's so busy trying to distinguish who's alpha from who's beta, who's swallowed the red pill and who hasn't, and all of this other overanalytical bullshit that they've missed the reality that stares them in the face on a daily basis.

Now you know I like that statement.

Post: #61

I agree with what gmanifesto and others have said about not letting other people's actions crimp your style. However, this part:

(05-10-2013 04:52 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  4.) "Attention whoring has gotten completely out of hand": there are a large portion of girls (especially the more attractive ones) that aren't really out to meet guys to hook up with, but are out to get "worshipped and put on the pedestal" by guys to feed their own egos.

I have to admit that this aspect of 21st-century Western social conventions is utterly maddening. The gap between what many attractive girls think of themselves and what they actually are is so canyon-wide, it boggles the mind sometimes. How many girls are waiting for Mr. Right without giving a moment's thought to whether they would even deserve him if he came along, or in fact whether they deserve any relationship with any man whatsoever outside of the pump and dump? How many girls are desperate for compliments, and yet treat anyone who compliments them like a chump? The only bright side to such a ridiculous state of affairs is that it provides ample justification for giving my Machiavellian instincts free rein; an expedient path, though not the path that leads to happiness for most.

Let's not forget that for any guy below true rock-star level, we do have to talk to and relate to females. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that if modern women developed themselves a bit more instead of status-whoring all the time, they would be better conversational partners and not bore us so much during those long moments when we're not rock hard inside of them.

In short, I think there's good reason for a man to lament the state of social and sexual relations in our current society. Of course we all have to find our path through, and I find positivity in that, but we also shouldn't be too rough on guys who are coming to terms with female nature or the nature of society as it currently exists. Troubled times, troubled minds.