Post: #26

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  I can agree with these terms.

Same here, though I'd still prefer my girl not have some gay guy around with whom she shares the intimate details of our sex life.

Post: #27

(05-02-2013 04:05 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  I can agree with these terms.

Same here, though I'd still prefer my girl not have some gay guy around with whom she shares the intimate details of our sex life.

I dated a Thai girl and she hung out with a gay dude. One day I had some friends from out of town over. I called her and invited her over. She showed up with her gay friend dressed in drag. I sent her home immediately and let her know it wasn't ok. She rode the bus a half hour to come see me. I eventually broke up with her.

Post: #28

(05-02-2013 04:03 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 03:46 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  So basically there are certain levels of friends and friendships.

If your girlfriend has a guy friend that is a

Flaming gay - it's ok
Harmless omega dork - it's ok
Harmless beta orbiter - it's ok
Not so harmless orbiter - it's ok but you're keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
Alpha dude with his own gf - it's ok but keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
The beta who always tries to cop a feel when drunk - Not ok
Single alpha dude - Not ok.
Known womanizer - Not ok.

I can agree with these terms.

so can i.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Good luck explaining to your GF that: "you can meet Bill because he is harmless omega dork, but you cannot meet Alex because he is a known womanizer"

There are many many things wrong with this: First of all you are advertising the alpha guy if you outline him as something especially dangerous. Women like dangerous. And she will want to know what it is such in Alex that makes you intimidated. Second she will take offense if you insult her "weak omega friends" third - you can bet that she is not going to meet boring or repulsive guys, why would she? If she wants to meet guys, then those guys definitely have something. Maybe they look like nerds to you, but they are interesting. Maybe have a sharp tongue that makes fun out of you while you are not there and maybe they have some special teleskope-let-me-show-you-stars game or whatever.

It's either she can meet any guy or no guy. Period.

Post: #29

(05-02-2013 04:52 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:03 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 03:46 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  So basically there are certain levels of friends and friendships.

If your girlfriend has a guy friend that is a

Flaming gay - it's ok
Harmless omega dork - it's ok
Harmless beta orbiter - it's ok
Not so harmless orbiter - it's ok but you're keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
Alpha dude with his own gf - it's ok but keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
The beta who always tries to cop a feel when drunk - Not ok
Single alpha dude - Not ok.
Known womanizer - Not ok.

I can agree with these terms.

so can i.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Good luck explaining to your GF that: "you can meet Bill because he is harmless omega dork, but you cannot meet Alex because he is a known womanizer"

There are many many things wrong with this: First of all you are advertising the alpha guy if you outline him as something especially dangerous. Women like dangerous. And she will want to know what it is such in Alex that makes you intimidated. Second she will take offense if you insult her "weak omega friends" third - you can bet that she is not going to meet boring or repulsive guys, why would she? If she wants to meet guys, then those guys definitely have something. Maybe they look like nerds to you, but they are interesting. Maybe have a sharp tongue that makes fun out of you while you are not there and maybe they have some special teleskope-let-me-show-you-stars game or whatever.

It's either she can meet any guy or no guy. Period.

I kind of agree with this - there is the problem that u preventing her from having alpha friends will be seen as insecure. She will know u are threatened, and you will have indeed outlined the threat. Subliminally, you are conveying to her that you can't handle the threat, or have doubts about your ability to overcome the threat. I think that will trigger her own evolutionary impulses. Also, she probably already knows which of her friends are alphas. You making it a big deal about them may push her closer to them.

I think the tight rope walked between setting boundaries and not being insecure is to maybe call her out on bad behavior, but not prevent her from having friends. In any case, the roissy maxim on this seems to be that if she is hanging out with alpha dudes regularly and one-on-one, it could be a sign u are already losing hand. So it's kind of a chicken and the egg problem.

Post: #30

I have a few close female friends. All but one are girls I've banged and then moved on to platonic friendships. There's latent sexual tension which only strengthens the friendship and makes it more fun to hang out, even if its years since we banged.

If I want sex I make my intentions known. If a girl I've made a move on doesn't want to go further my instinct is to freeze out and try again another time. I can't stand the feeling of being strung along, making my intentions known at least eliminates that nagging beta resentment.

Post: #31

(05-02-2013 04:52 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:03 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 03:46 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  So basically there are certain levels of friends and friendships.

If your girlfriend has a guy friend that is a

Flaming gay - it's ok
Harmless omega dork - it's ok
Harmless beta orbiter - it's ok
Not so harmless orbiter - it's ok but you're keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
Alpha dude with his own gf - it's ok but keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
The beta who always tries to cop a feel when drunk - Not ok
Single alpha dude - Not ok.
Known womanizer - Not ok.

I can agree with these terms.

so can i.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Good luck explaining to your GF that: "you can meet Bill because he is harmless omega dork, but you cannot meet Alex because he is a known womanizer"

There are many many things wrong with this: First of all you are advertising the alpha guy if you outline him as something especially dangerous. Women like dangerous. And she will want to know what it is such in Alex that makes you intimidated. Second she will take offense if you insult her "weak omega friends" third - you can bet that she is not going to meet boring or repulsive guys, why would she? If she wants to meet guys, then those guys definitely have something. Maybe they look like nerds to you, but they are interesting. Maybe have a sharp tongue that makes fun out of you while you are not there and maybe they have some special teleskope-let-me-show-you-stars game or whatever.

It's either she can meet any guy or no guy. Period.

Well, maybe it's bullshit to you but not to me.

But good luck with having your guy friends laugh at you behind your back when they see your GF hanging out with other guys in bars.

This is all theory to me though since I never had girls who hung out with other dudes all the time and disrespected me this way. I NEVER had a girl cheat on me either.

Post: #32

(05-02-2013 04:35 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:05 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  I can agree with these terms.

Same here, though I'd still prefer my girl not have some gay guy around with whom she shares the intimate details of our sex life.

I dated a Thai girl and she hung out with a gay dude. One day I had some friends from out of town over. I called her and invited her over. She showed up with her gay friend dressed in drag. I sent her home immediately and let her know it wasn't ok. She rode the bus a half hour to come see me. I eventually broke up with her.

Hahaha, I once met up with a Philipina in a bar in Manila and she had two people with her. One was an attractive girlfriend and the other she introduced as her sister. I took a quick look and asked her if it wasn't her brother since the "sister" was a ladyboy. We all laughed except the "sister"

Long story short: I went with the Phillipina to a hotel room.

Post: #33

I think that people have seen too many movies where two friends get drunk and just fall into bed together. I've had lots of female friends over the course of my life and that just doesn't happen. Yes, I've hooked up with some of them, but it didn't "just happen." It happened either because they made it clear they wanted something more and I was down or because I decided I wanted something more and tried to make it happen. In either case, the fact that we were friends didn't really change the whole dynamic of seduction. In fact, it might make it more difficult, because friends tend to establish boundaries. For example, I've had female friends that I could sleep in the same bed with and know that nothing is going to happen. I've also had female friends who knew that if they did end up in my bed, they were likely to get fucked.

Your girlfriend isn't just going to get drunk and accidentally end up fucking one of her friends. If she does fuck a friend, know that she made a conscious decision to do it. Your girlfriend is just as likely, probably more likely, to get drunk and fuck some random dude from the club as she is to fuck one of her male friends. More to the point, if she is consistently putting herself in shady positions with other men, your problem isn't that she has male friends. Women cheat when they have no fear of losing you.

Post: #34

You're better off spinning plates in your spare time then wasting time with a girl you're not fucking. That being said- there is nothing wrong with having girl "friends" in your social circle, especially if you have a girl friend that's attractive. If anything they may try to fuck you behind your girls back.

Girl "friends" can also be useful if your single, if they think you're good enough they may try to hook you up with one of their single friends.


The situation you want to avoid with girl "friends" is where you're the blue ball beta who is her little shuck running around doing shit for her for no discernible benefit aside to yourself, aside from hanging around the princess that your beta self has built up in your own mind. Other then that, you're fine.

Post: #35

Part of my game includes initially friendzoning women in the same way they used to friend zone me. I say, "You can't have me."

The case of sour grapes in this instance seems to work marvels for getting the hamster wheel going. I have a lot of friends that are girls and I've noticed the longer i hang with them and still game them, the more they keep trying to make moves.

My gift has always been social circle gaming. This mind game of ine was what made college very easy for me.

Post: #36

I have several close girlfriends that hook it up with free drinks at bars from orbiters, that provide me homework help, definitely easier to get into frat parties with a gang of hoes they bring with them (one or more of which I will certainly bang because she's hyped me up so much), not to mention some female perspective on situations.

The "manosphere" will have you thinking that every girl is a retard who's out to destroy anything with a penis. While there are a ton of money grubbing cum guzzlers out there; there are also some great people with vaginas. Would I fuck them given the chance? Of course, but I made that intention clear, unless its a close friend's girl, in which case that's a boundary I will not cross.

As for my girlfriend? She can go out once in a while with her girlfriends. Can she go out with just a guy friend? Only if he sucks dick. Can she have guy friends. She can, but they can't be chillin' alone. If I don't allow things like that, she will do them behind my back, and view me as insecure. I've tried it both ways and trust, if a girl wants to hang out with someone, she will.

Post: #37

It's possible, but I think a platonic male-female relationship is definitely on "borrowed time." People use each other anyhow, so it's not that big of a deal as long as the relationship doesn't blow up at the end.

Also, we all know how calculating women are, so in reality, having female friends (one's with boyfriends too) can be useful for a single guy because they might try to set you up with their cute friends. I've had this happen plenty of times, which makes my job much much easier.

This actually reminds me of a chick I kept as an acquaintance and would meet up in a group with from time-to-time. I went early to meet her and her sister at a happy hour before others showed up. I hit it off right away with her really hot sister, although she lived across the country, I just remember thinking, man, here's a damn good reason to keep female acquaintances: they might have hot and not crazy sisters.

Post: #38

This guy says it best:

Post: #39

(05-02-2013 04:35 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:05 AM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  I can agree with these terms.

Same here, though I'd still prefer my girl not have some gay guy around with whom she shares the intimate details of our sex life.

I dated a Thai girl and she hung out with a gay dude. One day I had some friends from out of town over. I called her and invited her over. She showed up with her gay friend dressed in drag. I sent her home immediately and let her know it wasn't ok. She rode the bus a half hour to come see me. I eventually broke up with her.

You guys are looking at this all wrong. I've developed a technique of 'outsourcing' work to my wife's gay friend.

She wants to go see a dumb movie?
Go with 'Roberto'

She wants to go shopping?
Give 'Roberto' a call

Needs a shoulder to cry on, someone to 'vent' to?
'Roberto' is always there

Dying for trip to wine country?
I'm watching the game, take 'Roberto'

See what I did here?

Gay friends, as opposed to straight women, are great people to have around. They're usually friends with lots of fly girls too. Straight women often have qualms about setting you up with other girls, even if you're strictly platonic, so the whole concept of 'wing girl' doesn't always work. But a gay guy won't have any problem doing it.

Post: #40

Women friends? This post need to be moved to the conspiracy thread. Besides women only have two types of friends, girl friends and boy friends. Beta orbiters have their category including tampons, emotional tampons, Summer Eve products, chick flicks, Starbucks, smartphones.....

Post: #41

(05-02-2013 04:52 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:03 AM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 04:00 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 03:46 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  So basically there are certain levels of friends and friendships.

If your girlfriend has a guy friend that is a

Flaming gay - it's ok
Harmless omega dork - it's ok
Harmless beta orbiter - it's ok
Not so harmless orbiter - it's ok but you're keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
Alpha dude with his own gf - it's ok but keeping an eye on the situation. No bars or extended periods of secluded time together.
The beta who always tries to cop a feel when drunk - Not ok
Single alpha dude - Not ok.
Known womanizer - Not ok.

I can agree with these terms.

so can i.

This is bullshit and you know it.

Good luck explaining to your GF that: "you can meet Bill because he is harmless omega dork, but you cannot meet Alex because he is a known womanizer"

There are many many things wrong with this: First of all you are advertising the alpha guy if you outline him as something especially dangerous. Women like dangerous. And she will want to know what it is such in Alex that makes you intimidated. Second she will take offense if you insult her "weak omega friends" third - you can bet that she is not going to meet boring or repulsive guys, why would she? If she wants to meet guys, then those guys definitely have something. Maybe they look like nerds to you, but they are interesting. Maybe have a sharp tongue that makes fun out of you while you are not there and maybe they have some special teleskope-let-me-show-you-stars game or whatever.

It's either she can meet any guy or no guy. Period.

Dude, that's fine, she can hang out with gays all she wants be she's not bringing a dude dressed in drag to my house.

Post: #42

This has nothing to do with the “manosphere” and everything to do with personal experience and consciousness of the frequency of cheating.

Again, I don’t care whether she accepts my explanation, if I choose to give one. If she hangs out around guys who are persistently trying to fuck every girl around and her specifically, she’s not respecting my desire for exclusivity and her loyalty. I’m not going to be the sucker taking her out to dinner and what not while some other guy is waiting patiently to be in the right place at the right time.

Cheating generally doesn’t take place at bars, but with friends or an ex. This is a fact for both men and women.

Some girls with boyfriends have even acted as sexual aggressors with me after only mild flirting on my part.

1. Ignore her for a while so she can tell herself she’s a “good loyal girl” while the relationship is still in its initial phase. This could take weeks or months. She’s on the defensive, and the most probable way in is to have patience and step aside.

2. After some infatuation with her boyfriend has subsided, and she begins to seek attention from you, begin acting playful and make teasing jokes to spark some sexual tension. Do it mildly and do not appear interested. Just push and pull. At this point, your frame is still that sex with her is the absolute furthest thing from your mind.

3. Let her see you with other girls. Ignore her until she begins seeking attention from you again.

4. Women are more likely to cheat while ovulating. Either use this moment or invite her over to check out your new favorite bottle of red wine.

5. Even by conservative estimates 8-15 percent of children haven’t been fathered by the man who thinks he’s the biological parent. That means whether you’re the friend or boyfriend, take cover.

If anything, some of you guys seem insecure about being seen as insecure. To me, there’s just no point of committing to a girl who is keeping guys around who she knows is trying to fuck her. It’s not like women take it well when their alpha male boyfriends exchange numbers after “befriending” attractive girls. That’s most likely when she’ll start trying to make him jealous, cheat, or end the relationship.

Ugly professional woman, fine. Hot slut, no.
Chaste beta, fine. Womanizing alpha, no.

I’ll tell you what, any guy better hope I don’t “befriend” his girlfriend.

You can either remain in denial and tolerate any behavior, never wanting to be called “insecure,” or you can think for yourself and DTB.

Post: #43

God women are boring.

Have you ever heard what they talk about amongst themselves? Food and family.

Post: #44

(05-02-2013 01:05 PM)Atilla Wrote:  This has nothing to do with the “manosphere” and everything to do with personal experience and consciousness of the frequency of cheating.

Again, I don’t care whether she accepts my explanation, if I choose to give one. If she hangs out around guys who are persistently trying to fuck every girl around and her specifically, she’s not respecting my desire for exclusivity and her loyalty. I’m not going to be the sucker taking her out to dinner and what not while some other guy is waiting patiently to be in the right place at the right time.

Cheating generally doesn’t take place at bars, but with friends or an ex. This is a fact for both men and women.

Some girls with boyfriends have even acted as sexual aggressors with me after only mild flirting on my part.

1. Ignore her for a while so she can tell herself she’s a “good loyal girl” while the relationship is still in its initial phase. This could take weeks or months. She’s on the defensive, and the most probable way in is to have patience and step aside.

2. After some infatuation with her boyfriend has subsided, and she begins to seek attention from you, begin acting playful and make teasing jokes to spark some sexual tension. Do it mildly and do not appear interested. Just push and pull. At this point, your frame is still that sex with her is the absolute furthest thing from your mind.

3. Let her see you with other girls. Ignore her until she begins seeking attention from you again.

4. Women are more likely to cheat while ovulating. Either use this moment or invite her over to check out your new favorite bottle of red wine.

5. Even by conservative estimates 8-15 percent of children haven’t been fathered by the man who thinks he’s the biological parent. That means whether you’re the friend or boyfriend, take cover.

If anything, some of you guys seem insecure about being seen as insecure. To me, there’s just no point of committing to a girl who is keeping guys around who she knows is trying to fuck her. It’s not like women take it well when their alpha male boyfriends exchange numbers after “befriending” attractive girls. That’s most likely when she’ll start trying to make him jealous, cheat, or end the relationship.

Ugly professional woman, fine. Hot slut, no.
Chaste beta, fine. Womanizing alpha, no.

I’ll tell you what, any guy better hope I don’t “befriend” his girlfriend.

You can either remain in denial and tolerate any behavior, never wanting to be called “insecure,” or you can think for yourself and DTB.

it's just a chick and the egg problem. If you have your gf eating out of the palm of your hand, these guy friend issues don't pop up. I've never had a girlfriend who was really into me hang out with any guys one on one, period. But before I learned game, my ex-girlfriend would hang out with this "studdy buddy" of hers. He was fucking annoying, but kind of a greater beta. Needless to say, calling her out on behavior I objected to did not help the situation.

If guy friends are becoming an issue, then you've already lost her. If you have hand, they won't be an issue.

Post: #45

(05-02-2013 09:09 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  This guy says it best:

I stopped at two minutes. This is silly.

First of all, lots of things you can do with female friends. Plenty of women like action and scary movies. Getting good food - seriously, if I want to try a new restaurant, i take a female friend. This may sound counterintuitive, but i find restaurants to be bad places to take girls you want to bang, because it creates a boring beta provider vibe and it almost forces your hand to spend money on her. With a female friend, you each pay your own way. I'm not gonna take a guy friend to go try some new restaurant - it seems kind of gay to me - two men eating together at a restaurant?

As with all women, just be discerning with how you interact around your female friends and who you befriend. Don't let them use you or make you their emotional tampon, and you should be fine. I never pay for anything for my female friends, none of them talk to me about their bfs, none of them want to cry on my shoulder, etc etc.

And why would you get sexual resentment? If you have a rotation of pussy in your harem, the last thing you would even think about is how much you resent one particular female for not wanting to fuck u, friend or not. You're taking women too seriously if you start getting feelings of resentment.

That's probably key to having valuable female friends - don't take them too seriously bro.

Post: #46

It will be a cold day in hell before I take girls in which I have no sexual interest to cinema's or restaurants.

I would love to hear about the rotation of pussy in your harem. Please tell all of us in detail how you set that up.

Awaiting your thread,bro

Post: #47

A quote attributed to Oscar Wilde:

Quote:Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship.

Post: #48

I'm pretty introverted and do have a few good female friends. I decided to never have sex with any of them, having a few friends that are girls is great from a game perspective, especially in college when everything is still largely social circle. Going to bars or nightclubs and bringing a dolled up girl is dynamite for scoring bitches. Even being approached around campus by a friend who happens to be a girl and having a quick conversation makes for good day game, especially in a cafeteria or by the coffee shop, where lots of other girls are privy to watch.

Because of this I think that being friends with a girl is possible but it must absolutely be on a man's terms, not a woman's.

Post: #49

Women are too politically correct to be fun.

Post: #50

(05-02-2013 03:06 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  It will be a cold day in hell before I take girls in which I have no sexual interest to cinema's or restaurants.

I would love to hear about the rotation of pussy in your harem. Please tell all of us in detail how you set that up.

Awaiting your thread,bro

Well first I met one girl, banged her, kept her in the loop. Then i met another girl, banged her, kept her in the loop. Rinse and repeat. What other details do u want to know?

bro.