Post: #1

This Saturday I had a dry run of my first RVF meet up. I went to 'Stout" in NYC which is right next to MSG for the Knicks playoff game.

I had 8 or 9 of my friends from Brooklyn show up, and I met up with "Male Defined" and "Freddy 1".

Stout was crowded, but it had almost zero women. Had a couple beers there until the end of the game, and then went down to "Down the Hatch" in the Village.

Male Defined and Freddy1 are definately solid wingmen. Male defined is a NYC guy, but he also has experience in international travel. He gave me some good advice on Brazil.

Freddy1 is an Italian from Australia, also very good for international travel. Freddy swears that if I go to Sydney I will get laid like a boss. hmmmmm....I might have to make a trip out there in the near future.

Male defined left after the game, and Freddy1 came down to the "Hatch" with some of my Brooklyn friends. There was a group of 5 girls sitting at a table and we approached together immediately. Freddy had me laughing when he told the girls that in Australia you get a "free animal on every birthday", and then conversation got into Kangeroo's. For some reason they didn't believe that Freddy was from Australia when he clearly had an Australian accent.

The girls were typical NYC snobs, they were out for one of the girls birthdays but they all looked like they were ready to kill someone. I bullshitted with one of them for 20 minutes and then I left to go back to Brooklyn. Lost Freddy at some point around then, and got a ride back to BK.

Lessons learned: I should do meet ups later in the day unless there is a special occasion. The knick game was a special occasion, but there was mostly dudes out. And it looks like ALOT of guys are interested in Brazil 2014 for the world cup, that could be an insane trip.

Power out!

Post: #2

Sounds good. I was thinking about Brazil for the WC. Not just for the women, but for the actual football and the spectacle too of course.

Post: #3

(04-21-2013 09:41 AM)Teedub Wrote:  Sounds good. I was thinking about Brazil for the WC. Not just for the women, but for the actual football and the spectacle too of course.

I may be making the same trip.
Just need to know the dangerous spots to avoid in Rio.

Post: #4

I heard the stadium is in the ghetto, I need to research some more...

Post: #5

I'd be down for a 2014 world cup trip too.I'd be more interested in the party atmosphere and women than the games itself.If I catch one game live, I'm not complaining.

Post: #6

My take is that it'll be a huge sausage fest as the battle of the fittest ensues.

There will be a lot of pros looking to cash in on the wealthy Europeans and Americans. There will also be a lot of women looking for a way out, or a green card.

I don't see it being a viable option to get girls, as you will be contesting with hundreds of thousands of men and the women will be as picky as possible. A lot of cockblocking will ensue.

If you do go, I'd hit the smaller towns and cities. Or just go at an off peak time.

That's not to say the futbol atmosphere will be amazing, and I will definitely be going to the World Cup and try to score some international snatch rather than the highly sought after locals that will be put on a pedestal above Mt. Olympus itself.

Post: #7

Had a good start to the day with Freddy and Captain.

Met up with Freddy near MSG an hour or so before the tip of yesterday's Knick game. After a drink and a shot of Jameson, of which Freddy absolutely hated, I went to head into the Knick game. As I left the bar I overheard a guy wondering how they were going to get their friend into the game with no ticket. I sold my ticket to the guy and pocketed a few bucks, then walked back into the bar where I enjoyed the Knick game with TheCaptainPower and Freddy 1.

As a complete side note, there is no better city in the world than NYC during the springtime. The weather is slowly becoming perfect, the Yankees and Mets are going, and when the Knicks are playing a playoff game, the city stops dead in its tracks.

I enjoyed some solid banter with Captain and Freddy throughout. Though we were in the wrong venue for women, I could immediately tell that both would be solid wingmen. Freddy has a really easy going, laid back, life of the party Aussie mentality, and Captain is a true to the blue New Yorker. Captain is in great shape as well. Mix his fitness, with his unmistakeable New York attitude and I'm sure we'll have some fun when we go out looking for women. Though I only spent a few hours with them, I felt like I'd known them for years. I wish Freddy posted a bit more here. He's got some great insights into traveling and has been all over the world.

Freddy and Captain, I don't know if you guys noticed, but we had far more going for us than any other group of guys in that place. That aspect alone reminds me what a resource this forum is.

I had dinner plans with a few friends after the game so I split from Captain and Freddy at this point, and that's when things got really interesting.

On my walk to the subway, I popped into a Starbucks where I ran into two girls cute girls who had just gotten out of the Knick game. Turns out they were an-pairs from Mexico, living in Long Island. Though I think it will be a dead end, I took a number from one of them using the 'put your number into my phone' line. In action, it's a really strong and direct line and led to some decent conversation in Starbucks as I convinced them to sit down with me for a few minutes.

I then moved on to an uneventful dinner, and then went out for some drinks on the UES. I had some decent conversations with a few girls, but it was getting late and I hadn't turned any approaches into anything solid. I went outside to get some air, when I ran into a girl i had spoken to earlier, smoking a cigarette alone. I went very direct, hailed a cab and grabbed her by the had, and threw her in to destination unknown.

The next thing I know, I'm in the East Village, up some street, down some alley, and into this unnamed bar off the radar. Down a flight of stairs I go and there are all sorts of foreign women, and a very BDSM vibe emanating through it. Immediately my girl buys me a 'drink' and starts kissing this Russian girl who is a solid 8. The Russian girl then turns, looks at me, takes a sip of her 'drink', kisses me, and spits her 'drink' in my mouth as she kisses me. After holding the drink in my mouth while kissing her, I proceed to spit it on the floor. The Russian girl then tells me that my girl and her are both very good kissers and she is very excited for later. However, first she thinks it would be fun to go to another after hours club, and all dance a bit together after we finish our drinks at this bar.

My bullshit detector is now running at a 100 out of 10. I know my city well and Russian girls don't pour drinks into your mouth, then proposition you for a 3-some within 5 minutes of meeting you. It's well after last call by now, and my bullshit detector tells me not to drink the drink that was bought for me. My bullshit detector then tells me to covertly swap the 'drink' that was bought for me with the drink that my girl was drinking.

It was the best move of the year.

We then leave the bar together, myself, the girl I met, and the Russian girl with the idea of heading to the after hours bar to dance. We don't make it into the afterhours club because the girl I brought, who I swapped the drink with, loses her shit. Literally goes apeshit wild, before passing out like a rock on the sidewalk. I now affirm what the hell is going on, I'm being fucking roofied in my own fucking city by a bunch of hack New Yorkers, the Russian girl sees that her and her friend's ploy has been foiled because I swapped drinks in the previous bar. She becomes very uneasy at this point, now telling me that her Russian friends are coming to deal with me.

I look at the Russian girl and explain to her that I know what she was trying to do to me. I look her dead in the eye and tell her that I can have her killed or arrested at this point. I quickly decide I don't need to see where this night is going. I ditch the Russian, and leave her and her friend lying passed out on the street. I jet up Bowery, around some corner, jump in a cab and ride home grateful to see the rising daylight of another day.

Post: #8

Hahhaha dam Defined that is a crazy story!....You want to go to game 2 and then see what happens after the game???

Captain man those girls were annoying..especially that one didn't believe me....sorry i bounced, but i went to meet up with an old friend which turned out to be a good nite, but i guarantee Sydney would be a poosy paradise for you with your look and accent!!...for being the first guys i have met off the forum it was a very cool experience!!!

Im close to getting a place so im cool to meet up whenever after that!...

Post: #9

(04-21-2013 12:26 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Had a good start to the day with Freddy and Captain.

Met up with Freddy near MSG an hour or so before the tip of yesterday's Knick game. After a drink and a shot of Jameson, of which Freddy absolutely hated, I went to head into the Knick game. As I left the bar I overheard a guy wondering how they were going to get their friend into the game with no ticket. I sold my ticket to the guy and pocketed a few bucks, then walked back into the bar where I enjoyed the Knick game with TheCaptainPower and Freddy 1.

As a complete side note, there is no better city in the world than NYC during the springtime. The weather is slowly becoming perfect, the Yankees and Mets are going, and when the Knicks are playing a playoff game, the city stops dead in its tracks.

I enjoyed some solid banter with Captain and Freddy throughout. Though we were in the wrong venue for women, I could immediately tell that both would be solid wingmen. Freddy has a really easy going, laid back, life of the party Aussie mentality, and Captain is a true to the blue New Yorker. Captain is in great shape as well. Mix his fitness, with his unmistakeable New York attitude and I'm sure we'll have some fun when we go out looking for women. Though I only spent a few hours with them, I felt like I'd known them for years. I wish Freddy posted a bit more here. He's got some great insights into traveling and has been all over the world.

Freddy and Captain, I don't know if you guys noticed, but we had far more going for us than any other group of guys in that place. That aspect alone reminds me what a resource this forum is.

I had dinner plans with a few friends after the game so I split from Captain and Freddy at this point, and that's when things got really interesting.

On my walk to the subway, I popped into a Starbucks where I ran into two girls cute girls who had just gotten out of the Knick game. Turns out they were an-pairs from Mexico, living in Long Island. Though I think it will be a dead end, I took a number from one of them using the 'put your number into my phone' line. In action, it's a really strong and direct line and led to some decent conversation in Starbucks as I convinced them to sit down with me for a few minutes.

I then moved on to an uneventful dinner, and then went out for some drinks on the UES. I had some decent conversations with a few girls, but it was getting late and I hadn't turned any approaches into anything solid. I went outside to get some air, when I ran into a girl i had spoken to earlier, smoking a cigarette alone. I went very direct, hailed a cab and grabbed her by the had, and threw her in to destination unknown.

The next thing I know, I'm in the East Village, up some street, down some alley, and into this unnamed bar off the radar. Down a flight of stairs I go and there are all sorts of foreign women, and a very BDSM vibe emanating through it. Immediately my girl buys me a 'drink' and starts kissing this Russian girl who is a solid 8. The Russian girl then turns, looks at me, takes a sip of her 'drink', kisses me, and spits her 'drink' in my mouth as she kisses me. After holding the drink in my mouth while kissing her, I proceed to spit it on the floor. The Russian girl then tells me that my girl and her are both very good kissers and she is very excited for later. However, first she thinks it would be fun to go to another after hours club, and all dance a bit together after we finish our drinks at this bar.

My bullshit detector is now running at a 100 out of 10. I know my city well and Russian girls don't pour drinks into your mouth, then proposition you for a 3-some within 5 minutes of meeting you. It's well after last call by now, and my bullshit detector tells me not to drink the drink that was bought for me. My bullshit detector then tells me to covertly swap the 'drink' that was bought for me with the drink that my girl was drinking.

It was the best move of the year.

We then leave the bar together, myself, the girl I met, and the Russian girl with the idea of heading to the after hours bar to dance. We don't make it into the afterhours club because the girl I brought, who I swapped the drink with, loses her shit. Literally goes apeshit wild, before passing out like a rock on the sidewalk. I now affirm what the hell is going on, I'm being fucking roofied in my own fucking city by a bunch of hack New Yorkers, the Russian girl sees that her and her friend's ploy has been foiled because I swapped drinks in the previous bar. She becomes very uneasy at this point, now telling me that her Russian friends are coming to deal with me.

I look at the Russian girl and explain to her that I know what she was trying to do to me. I look her dead in the eye and tell her that I can have her killed or arrested at this point. I quickly decide I don't need to see where this night is going. I ditch the Russian, and leave her and her friend lying passed out on the street. I jet up Bowery, around some corner, jump in a cab and ride home grateful to see the rising daylight of another day.

Jesus. That's like out of a movie. I'm glad that you're OK.

Post: #10

It was out of a fucking movie. I was wasted. As Captian and Freddy can confirm, I had been drinking at a decent pace since about 2PM.

I woke up this morning wondering if this was a dream, but I spoke with one of my friends who confirmed that I called him at about 530AM to explain what had happened.

The funny thing is, I became very lucid as soon as I realized what type of situation I was getting into. After a number of hazy hours of drinking, I instantly snapped into it and became razor sharp, remembering every little detail. I think if I was anything but razor sharp, something would have happened to me.

If this shit happened to me in a place like Moscow, I would chalk it up to the experience. But in NYC...I didn't see that one coming. That Russian is lucky I didn't knock her ass out on the street next to her roofied friend.

Post: #11

Damn. I shoulda met y'all. I know a girl who works at down the hatch too. Definitely next time.

Damn male defined that is some crazy shit. I had a boy wake up in a motel in jersey city with all his shit gone once. Good avoidance. Red pill.

Post: #12

(04-21-2013 04:22 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  It was out of a fucking movie. I was wasted. As Captian and Freddy can confirm, I had been drinking at a decent pace since about 2PM.

I woke up this morning wondering if this was a dream, but I spoke with one of my friends who confirmed that I called him at about 530AM to explain what had happened.

The funny thing is, I became very lucid as soon as I realized what type of situation I was getting into. After a number of hazy hours of drinking, I instantly snapped into it and became razor sharp, remembering every little detail. I think if I was anything but razor sharp, something would have happened to me.

If this shit happened to me in a place like Moscow, I would chalk it up to the experience. But in NYC...I didn't see that one coming. That Russian is lucky I didn't knock her ass out on the street next to her roofied friend.

Awesome job man. Trust me, you did the right thing just by leaving. If you blasted her one who knows what may have happened. Hell, you're lucky you just left because she could have claimed YOU roofied her friend, she could have given your description to the cops, there's any number of ways that could have gone south.

Post: #13

(04-21-2013 05:48 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(04-21-2013 04:22 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  It was out of a fucking movie. I was wasted. As Captian and Freddy can confirm, I had been drinking at a decent pace since about 2PM.

I woke up this morning wondering if this was a dream, but I spoke with one of my friends who confirmed that I called him at about 530AM to explain what had happened.

The funny thing is, I became very lucid as soon as I realized what type of situation I was getting into. After a number of hazy hours of drinking, I instantly snapped into it and became razor sharp, remembering every little detail. I think if I was anything but razor sharp, something would have happened to me.

If this shit happened to me in a place like Moscow, I would chalk it up to the experience. But in NYC...I didn't see that one coming. That Russian is lucky I didn't knock her ass out on the street next to her roofied friend.

Awesome job man. Trust me, you did the right thing just by leaving. If you blasted her one who knows what may have happened. Hell, you're lucky you just left because she could have claimed YOU roofied her friend, she could have given your description to the cops, there's any number of ways that could have gone south.

It's funny because throughout this experience I kept thinking from the perspective of 'what would the forum suggest I do'. It was a tremendous prism to think through in desperate moments. Things like false rape accusations, walking away without giving a reason or excuse, and giving a fuck about noone but myself all flew through my head at a million miles a minute last night.

I'm thankful to have a place where men can have serious discussions about these realities in our world. Though I've got a pretty solid head on me, I don't know if last night would have ended up with me sleeping safely in my own bed without some of the wisdom shared by many of you guys.

Post: #14

After MaleDefined's brush with doom, maybe it's time we have night game self preservation thread. Not using violence - Fisto's advice is dead on - but just good rules to follow if things suddenly go south.

Post: #15

(04-21-2013 09:19 AM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  and then went down to "Down the Hatch" in the Village.

Have you ever had good results here? I've always found it a waste of time, bitchy girls like you said.

Wilfie & Nell's seems to be much better if your vibe isn't too bro'd out. I've taken bro friends here and they've left in a huff after their usual schtick doesn't work with girls who are more high-class-hipster, even though I've done well there.

Post: #16

Maledefined holy shit, that was an entertaining read at the end. Glad you pulled through well and had some smarts, most guys would have been screwed over. If there was a positive to all this it's that you now have a very interesting story to tell down the road.

Post: #17

I've been going to Down the Hatch since I was 18, and I am probably 0 for 75,000. I like "Off the wagon" which is 3 blocks away. At Off the wagon I am probably 25 for 100,000.

Post: #18

@Freddy one of my ticket partners is going to Tuesday. We'll surely meet up again while you're in town.

Captain spoke of going to the beer garden in a couple of weeks once the weather gets nicer.

@Midnite you should come join us. Captain and Freddy are both solid dudes. May is a GREAT month to find girls in the city. Lets get out there NYC members!

Post: #19

(04-21-2013 12:05 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  My take is that it'll be a huge sausage fest as the battle of the fittest ensues.

There will be a lot of pros looking to cash in on the wealthy Europeans and Americans. There will also be a lot of women looking for a way out, or a green card.

I don't see it being a viable option to get girls, as you will be contesting with hundreds of thousands of men and the women will be as picky as possible. A lot of cockblocking will ensue.

If you do go, I'd hit the smaller towns and cities. Or just go at an off peak time.

That's not to say the futbol atmosphere will be amazing, and I will definitely be going to the World Cup and try to score some international snatch rather than the highly sought after locals that will be put on a pedestal above Mt. Olympus itself.

Yeah, maybe if you stay in Rio or Sao Paulo, but there will be many places that are going to be great, you just need to know where to go. I bet more than half the tourists are going to Rio or Sao Paulo. If you know how to do Brazil, I can guarantee you'll have a great time during the WC.