Post: #1

Anybody heard about this movie Compliance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance_%28film%29

Apparently based on a true story. A guy called restaurants pretending to be a cop and got the managers to do crazy things to female employees, like strip search them.

Quote:There were incidents in multiple states that followed the same pattern: a caller identifying himself as a police officer would contact a manager or floor supervisor on the pretense of soliciting the supervisor to assist the police in detaining a suspected criminal employee and conducting a search of the person. The caller would provide a physical description of the suspect which the supervisor would recognize. Some notable cases include:

A female McDonald's manager in Leitchfield, Kentucky, was convinced on November 30, 2000 to undress before a customer when the caller persuaded her that the customer was a suspected sex offender and that her serving as bait would permit undercover officers to arrest him when he showed an interest in her.[2]
A call to a McDonald's restaurant in Hinesville, Georgia, in February 2003, in which a female manager, who thought she was speaking with a police officer in the presence of the director of operations for the franchisee GWD Management Corporation, took a 19‑year-old female employee into the women's bathroom and strip-searched her, and brought in a 55‑year-old male employee to perform a body cavity search to uncover hidden drugs. McDonald's and franchisee GWD Management Corporation were taken to court over the incident. In 2005 U.S. district judge John F. Nangle granted summary judgment to McDonald's, and denied in part summary judgment to GWD Management Corporation.[3] In 2006, The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the decision.[4]
On June 3, 2003, a Taco Bell manager in Juneau, Alaska, stripped a 14‑year-old female customer and forced her to perform lewd acts, at the request of a caller who claimed he was working with the company to investigate drug abuse.[citation needed]
In July 2003, a 36‑year-old Winn-Dixie grocery store manager in Panama City, Florida, received a call instructing him to bring a 19‑year-old female cashier, who matched a physical description provided by the caller, into the office for a strip search. The cashier was forced to disrobe and pose in various positions as part of the search. The incident was ended when another manager entered the office to retrieve a set of keys.[5]
In March 2004, a 17‑year-old female customer at a Taco Bell in Fountain Hills, Arizona, near Phoenix, was strip-searched by a manager receiving a call from a man claiming to be a police officer.[6]

Obviously this guy is sick and a criminal. But his perversion aside, what he did was apparently based on some the Milgram experiments at Yale. Its simply amazing just how gullible people can be, and how ready they are to follow orders, as asinine and inhuman as they may be.

Post: #2

Lol. People.

Post: #3

(04-17-2013 01:25 AM)guerrilla Wrote:  Lol. People.

Yeah, funny and sad. Guess 'compliance tests' work a lot easier when you appear to be in a position of authority. People in some cultures are just programmed to automatically obey authority figures.

Post: #4

The scientist who originally conducted the Stanford Prison experiment, Phil Zimbardo wrote a book titled the 'The Lucifer Effect' that really goes into detail with this kind of pheneomon. I wouldn't recommend reading if you have any insane notions or sentimentality towards believing that people are generally good, decent people that can think for themselves and think rationally before deciding on an action. Nature designed us to
be the lemmings and assholes.

in short: lol people

Post: #5

Throughout the movie, I couldn't believe that people that stupid exist, but apparently, they do.

Post: #6

(04-18-2013 02:28 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  The scientist who originally conducted the Stanford Prison experiment, Phil Zimbardo wrote a book titled the 'The Lucifer Effect' that really goes into detail with this kind of pheneomon. I wouldn't recommend reading if you have any insane notions or sentimentality towards believing that people are generally good, decent people that can think for themselves and think rationally before deciding on an action. Nature designed us to
be the lemmings and assholes.

in short: lol people

If I remember the actual results of the experiment, about half the men didn't comply. In other words it seems women are easily led and half of men - why them and not the others is open for discussion.

Post: #7

There was also "The Wave," a TV movie based on real-life events.

The Wave, Part 1

Quote:"It is the ultimate classroom mind-game. A charismatic teacher suddenly introduces strict discipline into his lessons and, far from rebelling, the students embrace it with gusto. Within a week, they have devised a uniform, insignia, salute and banners, and eagerly spy on and intimidate schoolmates. The movement swells to more than 200 members who, on the last day, flock to a rally."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/...state.html

Post: #8

(04-18-2013 02:56 PM)Lazarus Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 02:28 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  The scientist who originally conducted the Stanford Prison experiment, Phil Zimbardo wrote a book titled the 'The Lucifer Effect' that really goes into detail with this kind of pheneomon. I wouldn't recommend reading if you have any insane notions or sentimentality towards believing that people are generally good, decent people that can think for themselves and think rationally before deciding on an action. Nature designed us to
be the lemmings and assholes.

in short: lol people

If I remember the actual results of the experiment, about half the men didn't comply. In other words it seems women are easily led and half of men - why them and not the others is open for discussion.

Interesting. In the movie it was also a man (the janitor) who ultimately didn't comply.

Post: #9

A lot of people are lemmings. If I ran outside right now, pointed to a Russian looking guy and said - "there he is, the Boston bomber, lynch him" - they probably would.

Post: #10

(04-18-2013 03:07 PM)Sombro Wrote:  There was also "The Wave," a TV movie based on real-life events.

The Wave, Part 1

Quote:"It is the ultimate classroom mind-game. A charismatic teacher suddenly introduces strict discipline into his lessons and, far from rebelling, the students embrace it with gusto. Within a week, they have devised a uniform, insignia, salute and banners, and eagerly spy on and intimidate schoolmates. The movement swells to more than 200 members who, on the last day, flock to a rally."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/...state.html

Yeah, good point, I remember hearing about that.

At least in that case they were kids, you could use the excuse that they were young and impressionable. From adults you would expect more.

Post: #11

Hmm I wodner how I could use this.

Post: #12

The real life girl vs. the girl from the movie: Real life kinda sucks sometimes

Post: #13

(04-19-2013 04:29 PM)LostEveryWeekend Wrote:  The real life girl vs. the girl from the movie: Real life kinda sucks sometimes

Damn. Kinda glad Hollywood took some creative liberties with that one...

Post: #14

i read about this "Social Engineering" concept in a book by Kevin Mitnick. Dude was doing all kinds of stuff using Caller ID spoofers (phone phreaking), and got some dude at a bank to give him the access code to a Banks Vault where he took almost a Half Million dollars.

Post: #15

(04-30-2013 07:51 PM)Low Status Beta Wrote:  i read about this "Social Engineering" concept in a book by Kevin Mitnick. Dude was doing all kinds of stuff using Caller ID spoofers (phone phreaking), and got some dude at a bank to give him the access code to a Banks Vault where he took almost a Half Million dollars.

Wow. Sounds like a business opportunity haha.

Like they say, 'the bigger the lie, the more it will be believed.'

Post: #16

Quote:Obviously this guy is sick and a criminal. But his perversion aside, what he did was apparently based on some the Milgram experiments at Yale. Its simply amazing just how gullible women can be, and how ready they are to follow orders, as asinine and inhuman as they may be.

Fixed it for you. It's in women's nature to submit to authority unquestioningly. I've gotten in trouble with my parents, teacher, law enforcement etc because I always them "why" and it pisses them off that they can't get me to fall in line.

Submission is a feminine trait. Feminine values such as submission, impulsivity(consumerism, conspicuous consumption), and insecurity are being foisted onto all b/c it's good for business and keeps the masses in line. Everyone wins, except the individual.

Post: #17

(04-18-2013 02:56 PM)Lazarus Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 02:28 PM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  The scientist who originally conducted the Stanford Prison experiment, Phil Zimbardo wrote a book titled the 'The Lucifer Effect' that really goes into detail with this kind of pheneomon. I wouldn't recommend reading if you have any insane notions or sentimentality towards believing that people are generally good, decent people that can think for themselves and think rationally before deciding on an action. Nature designed us to
be the lemmings and assholes.

in short: lol people

If I remember the actual results of the experiment, about half the men didn't comply. In other words it seems women are easily led and half of men - why them and not the others is open for discussion.

Actually the results of the experiment were that everyone involved enthusiastically got into their roles, whether they were guards or prisoners. A few of the "guards" turned into sadistic fucks, and the guy running the experiment who was also the warden, became indifferent to the poor treatment of the prisoners, and pulled the plug after two weeks, but only doing so when his girlfriend pointed out how fucked up it was getting.

Groups like the APA have largely ignored most of the findings in the experiment citing "unethical." But in reality, they should have cited "cowardly" as their reason for disregarding the outcome. This is because the results shed an unflattering light on human behavior and the sorry state of US prisons. To give an idea of how little regard they have for the study, I have a bachelor's in psychology. At no point when I was in school, was this study ever mentioned.