Post: #26

If you want to look beyond Europe - as an Italian you can get a working holiday visa for Canada, Australia or New Zealand.

No doubt you'd find it more convenient to work closer to home. But with your good level of English, you'd have good prospects for a job in the booming economies of some of those Anglosphere countries.

The travel and work itself would give you more real world experience.

Post: #27

How can there be white-collar jobs paying 600-800 Euro/month in Italy, that's just ridiculous and arrogant of companies to offer that. But I guess they can get away with it in this job market...
If you spoke Portuguese instead of Italian, I could refer you for a job at a call center ran by an affiliate of my company, it's in Bulgaria and they are paying people around that much, and cost of living here is probably 30% of that in Italy. And it's in the EU so no visa shit.

Post: #28

Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find an interesting job for a recent graduate nowadays in southern europe.
Here in Spain the base salary when you start after university is around 22-25k per year, go try to live well with that.

Anyways, yes you should try Switzerland as it has been recommended, maybe Lugano as it's the italian part.
You can have more chance in London or Germany if you speak good German. But you should definitely move from Italy.
You don't have an alumni base at your university? I guess recruitors don't have any problems to find low cost people nowadays with the unemployment so it's better to have contacts.

I use these sites to look for jobs in banks:
http://www.efinancialcareers.com
http://www.cityjobs.com

Post: #29

(04-17-2013 08:59 AM)K-man Wrote:  How can there be white-collar jobs paying 600-800 Euro/month in Italy, that's just ridiculous and arrogant of companies to offer that. But I guess they can get away with it in this job market...

Regarding this I'm talking about people entering the job market or re-entering it after being fired in a previous place.
Most white collar people that have been employed years ago with regular long-term contracts gain around 1100-1300 per month (net retribution).
Now the thing that is happening is that they want young people that just graduated to work for them with a "stage" contract.
This is a basically a fake internship where you don't learn much and you do basic stuff like simple accounting, making copies and other low responsibility work.
The concract is usually of 3 or 6 months, then they simply fire the worker and get another one so they don't have to employ him.
Sometimes they keep one or two stagist but statistically this is not very common.
The companies pays the afore mentioned wages for this, it's very hard to escape this as a graduate untill you have good connections (the old "recommendation").

Quote:Unfortunately it's almost impossible to find an interesting job for a recent graduate nowadays in southern europe.
Here in Spain the base salary when you start after university is around 22-25k per year, go try to live well with that.

Anyways, yes you should try Switzerland as it has been recommended, maybe Lugano as it's the italian part.

You don't have an alumni base at your university?

I use these sites to look for jobs in banks:
http://www.efinancialcareers.com
http://www.cityjobs.com

The base wage in Spain doesn't look that bad (provided that you talk about net salary). I mean that's almost 2000euro per month.
Sure you will not get rich and won't live like a baller but it seems reasonable compared with the costs of many spanish cities, if you exclude the most expensive areas Your thougths on this?

What do you mean with "alumni base"? Is it the recruting service used by companies with the data of graduates?

Thanks you all again for the suggestions and advices.

Post: #30

(04-18-2013 05:48 AM)Way Cool Jr Wrote:  The base wage in Spain doesn't look that bad (provided that you talk about net salary). I mean that's almost 2000euro per month.
Sure you will not get rich and won't live like a baller but it seems reasonable compared with the costs of many spanish cities, if you exclude the most expensive areas Your thougths on this?

What do you mean with "alumni base"? Is it the recruting service used by companies with the data of graduates?

Thanks you all again for the suggestions and advices.

Sry I meant gross salary.
So that's 2000Eur gross, net it's around 1500-1600.
In France it's around 35K-45K (gross, depending the school you did).

By alumni base I meant a base of ex-students of your master who are now working today so that you can contact them and send them your CV.

Post: #31

Quote:Care to expand on your approach?

I'm sorry guys, didn't catch the question. Better late than never.

The approach was simple, I work with real time control systems, and there aren't many people in this particular area. I was in a short internship I got through reaching out by myself and ended up staying in Europe for a year. I met people from a lot of companies by just being easygoing and trying my best at work. I also met a lot of people there from random drinking and chatting, that ended up being owners of several businesses. After the year was done, I had a pretty good reputation, even with many companies I didn't know.

Post: #32

(04-04-2013 02:35 PM)Volk Wrote:  I am Colombian and instantly found a very good paying job in Hungary. Connections are everything. People whine in Europe that there isn't any jobs but the jobs are there. I even had an offer from Spain last week but I don't like it there.

Now the hardest part is the paper wall the EU puts up for people like me...

What kind of job and how did you find one in Spain? Do Inbox or advise here. Thanks.

Post: #33

Again, Control Systems, Real time systems, stuff like that. All in all, it's software development. The jobs in Spain came through friends of friends or company affiliates who were looking for certain engineers and couldn't find them locally. Since I speak spanish on a native level, I had a plus.