Post: #201

Keep it up Sargon, although a break could do you well as it sounds you're approaching like a robot due to repeating the same thing over and over.

After reading your whole thread....you can write a book about your stay in Osaka, the thread consisting 60-70% of your book. I'll definitely buy it.

Post: #202

(08-11-2013 01:55 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  231 approaches, 51 numbers, 12 dates, 2 bangs

Just a thought, maybe add a metric for makeouts, blowjobs, etc... because looking at this I feel demoralised for you man... <1% hit rate looks brutal.

I am thinking of this thread: Two Months In The Life Of The G Manifesto: Approach-Number-Conversion Rates

Post: #203

(08-11-2013 03:22 AM)Tengen Wrote:  Just a thought, maybe add a metric for makeouts, blowjobs, etc... because looking at this I feel demoralised for you man... <1% hit rate looks brutal.

About 8 or 9 makeouts. I usually don't bother to list them in this thread.

No blowjobs

You feel demoralized? How do you think I feel, hehe.

Post: #204

Sargon, I'm pretty sure by your description that the Korean bar chick was a hostess, maybe more. A mama-san is the owner/manager/pimp for these girls and oneechan just means the other girl has been there longer than her. Mama-san is never, ever used to refer to one's own actual mother (at least, I've never heard it used like that).

Post: #205

Eeeeh...no, trust me...not that one. I think if you'd seen the place you'd agree with me.

Had she been a hostess I would've ended up paying an arm and a leg for this cheap ass bottle of Soju. I didn't pay a thing.

From the look of the place it was just a standard Korean restaurant. Plus, from my (limited experience) hostesses are usually attractive. This chic was more like a 5.5...6 at best.

No hostess would've just let me sit down there for half and hour, babbled incomprehensible gibberish, and then not charged me anything. These women want your money, and I think they would have gotten to that pretty quickly. If she was a hostess/pro, she was probably one of the worst in history.

That place was just a standard, relatively cheap looking Korean restaurant with a bar counter, and that chic was just a fool who was drunk out of her mind.

By the way, she was speaking English the entire time (said she was a Japanese teacher, and taught foreigners, that was the only comprehensible thing that came out of her mouth). She kept saying "that's my MAMA" which sounded kind of sarcastic once we actually stepped inside the place, followed by "she's just like my MAMA".

The old lady just rolled her eyes and continued washing the dishes and taking orders from the other customers. I don't think a mamasan would be wearing a dirty apron, either.

Post: #206

I'm looking into hitting up Japan soon, either Tokyo or Osaka next. But my budget is getting tight. I can find hotels with one person rooms in Osaka for around 25 dollars (agoda), but I have no idea if they have a decent location.

What areaa should I be looking at for Osaka? (near clubs / decent nightlife spots / malls for daygame) so I can narrow my search. I don't want to be stuck in a cheap hotel in a dead area either.

Also, will they pose a problem for bringing home guests? I ran into this (to much frustration) in Vietnam. So that's something I really want to avoid as well.

Post: #207

Be careful that some of those might be capsule hotels. You sleep literally in a tube with other people next to you and some don't have places to even store luggage when you aren't there. They can get quite creative with their pictures.
You probably want to be near Shinsaibashi/Nanba station or east of it.

Both my hotels there said they didn't allow guests, but there is zero security at any of the hotels I saw there. They ask to keep your key at the front desk but you could just tell her to go in the elevator or bring the key around with you. A third of the time the person wasn't even at the front desk and I had to ring to get them to come out. But I wasn't able to pull in 11 days so ymmv.

Post: #208

i would stay in dobutsuen mae if your budget is tight. the area has a shitload of $20 hotels that are cheaper if u stay more than 1 night. they are all single private rooms and there is no one there at night so no problem bringing guests in at night. you dont even need to make reservations but can to be on the safe side. its 2 stops from namba but the down side is that its like a 20-30 minute walk if u stay out past midnight

Post: #209

(08-10-2013 10:26 AM)ImmoralPsychology Wrote:  Sargon, I don't understand what is going on for you. I've never pretended that Japan is an easy place to score, but 2 out of 222 is low even for here. You come across like a decent guy in your writing so I would have imagined better success for you. It's possible that you're doing something without realizing it that just doesn't fly in Japan? Maybe you need someone to stand on the sidelines and watch you to see if that's the case?

I can tell you one thing. Any guy that studies 'game' hardcore and then tried to apply it here is going to do badly. Japanese girls don't respond well to cocky dicks who are full of themselves and sarcasm is not understood nor funny here. (I'm not implying you do that and your writing doesn't suggest it. Just pointing out a couple of things that game advocates that would kill a guy's game here.)

Anyway, I hope you figure it out soon. It's getting painful reading your posts. LOL (I have felt like you described though. Japan can be fucking frustrating. I've got one foot out the door at this point.)

I used to read other pickup forums where guys made it so sound so easy. Doing day game and picking up J girls at the book store, immediately insta dating them and laying them at their apartment a few hours later. Or fucking them in a back alley outside a nightclub. Fucking J girls at the beach during the summer. Etc, etc.

What happened to this? LOL. Are these guys full of shit, or just really good?

Also, do any of you belong to the Japan LAIR? I understand they don't let anyone new join anymore or something, but there's probably a wealth of knowledge on their private forums.

Post: #210

I've read those forums too. And was part of some of them. They are full of shit. I don't mean "full of shit" in that they are outright lying about a particular story. They could be telling the truth that they pulled a girl out of the club and fucked her in the back alley. Weird shit can happen anywhere. I've got a few pretty amazing stories myself. But they are full of shit when they make sound as it this stuff happens every weekend or that it's standard operating procedure. It's just not. And in some cases, I wouldn't doubt that they ARE outright lying. I've met some of these guys who talk about pulling all the time. And invariably, in front of me at least, theses dude do nothing and get nothing. They'll describe their women always as super hot, stunning, gorgeous and then show you a phone full of 5s and 6s, sometimes 4s. They'll say J girls are easy but their definition of easy is different than yours. My definition of easy is SNL without a lot of trouble. Then you find out much later that they usually bang on the third date, which is standard around the world for normal guys and girls. Maybe that's "easy" for them cuz they can't get laid at all back home, I don't know. I will tell you that I've never met one single dude, ever, here that can pull a 7+ consistently. There must be some out there, but I haven't met them. J girls are not particularly easy if you can get laid at all back home. What I will concede to here is that J girls don't crucify your for being a nice guy, usually. Many want exactly that. So if you're a nice guy, you'll find more success here probably, but it won't be with club chicks so much as with your students or girls you meet at school or whatever.

Post: #211

I could've fucked a Japanese girl at Suma Beach in Kobe but fucking Seinfeld ruined it for me. I was a the beach and me and a girl I met went into the water and were making out and stuff. She was straddling me and i was grinding my cock on her. I was about to turn my cock out and slip her bikini to the side and fuck her, but then I remember that Seinfeld episode where Elain talks about it being impossible to fuck in the water. I had a nightmare about not doing it anyways. At least I couldve gotten a few pumps in which might've been all it took.

Post: #212

I've been to Japan twice on holiday. I didn't get laid but did do some pretty cool sht. I had my first ever 4-way make out (me making out with 3 J chicks simultaneously) and that same evening I also had my highest ever number of makeouts with different girls in 1 day (7)

Post: #213

I've done it many times. Strangely enough though it does feel more dry. But still very doable

(08-14-2013 01:33 AM)bounce Wrote:  I could've fucked a Japanese girl at Suma Beach in Kobe but fucking Seinfeld ruined it for me. I was a the beach and me and a girl I met went into the water and were making out and stuff. She was straddling me and i was grinding my cock on her. I was about to turn my cock out and slip her bikini to the side and fuck her, but then I remember that Seinfeld episode where Elain talks about it being impossible to fuck in the water. I had a nightmare about not doing it anyways. At least I couldve gotten a few pumps in which might've been all it took.

Post: #214

Sorry for the late update. Haven't had Internet access since Monday...

Recap of Monday August 12th, 2013

Monday counted as my first time meeting in person with a fellow RVF member (member named 'Bounce'), as well as my first time going out with a wing in Japan (actually, this is the first time in years that I'd approached Girls with a wing). The experience left me with some interesting insights.

Bounce and I had arranged to meet up in front of the entrance of the Starbucks at Hikkakebashi. We decided to head into the Starbucks to chat. When we sat down at the only free seats left on the second floor, something quite bizarre and unexpected happened. Two Japanese girls, one tall, very attractive, with long semi-natural hair, the other more average in appearance, with shoulder length hair dyed blond, started eye-fucking us (well, mostly Bounce, but I guess as a Gaijin-duo, we were both sort of appealing).

The taller, more attractive one, looks us (mainly Bounce) up and down and says ‘hi’. From there we just start talking and bullshitting with the two of them. Bounce doesn’t speak Japanese, so he uses English with them, while only the shorter of the two girls knows any English. I decide to go along with it and refrain from using Japanese, resorting to it only if they can’t understand at all. Both are 18 year old university students on their way to a J-pop concert. The taller one looks the most interested. They ask if we have LINE (I really should get this on my computer, it seems to be a very convenient way to collect contact info). We leave them our Facebook addresses before they head off to the concert.

“Damn!” I think, “This is the first time since hooking up with the Housewife that opening ever came so easy in Japan.” I’m not entirely sure if they were just more open to Bounce or if our being in a group made us more noticeable and less threatening, but something was certainly different from when I normally go out.
After leaving the Starbucks, Bounce and I walk around the Dotomburi area, bullshitting and looking for another coffee shop. We exchange stories, talk about how long we’ve been in Japan, what we’re doing, girls we’ve banged here and whatnot. Guy’s working as an English teacher somewhere in Nagoya, does Brazillian Jiujutsu, been living here for four months. So far, he says, he’s nailed a Filipina while here. I spot a girl walking in front of us and approach her. Too lazy to think up an excuse to talk to her, so I go direct. She’s put off by this, and nothing comes of it. Too bad.

I recommend looking for a bar or coffee shop in Amemura. “Why don’t we ask those two?” Bounce says while pointing to these two girls walking in our direction, both with long hair dyed blond, color contacts, faces covered in makeup. 20 and 21 years old, loud, silly, the type you can frequently spot around this area. I stop them and ask them where we can find a good bar or coffee shop in Amemura. They point us towards an area around the Big Step shopping mall. “Why don’t you ask the two of them to come with us?” Bounce says. When I translate they seem surprised, but they go along with it. The four of us sit around Triangle Square bullshitting together before we head off to a bar with pool tables and dartboards nearby.

“I think we’ve got a good shot at fucking these chicks tonight.” Bounce murmurs while we’re walking behind them. He could be right. We step into a bar. Pretty much empty. Leave our shit at the couch, grab a screwdriver. Happy hour; only 400 yen, this time. Spend some time playing darts. Bounce seems to think we might be able to get a bit more physical at the pool table. One thousand yen an hour!? Fuck that! We bullshit some more on the couch. The two don’t really speak any English, which is a bit of an obstacle for Bounce. I’ve set my eyes on the one in the pink short shorts with the pretty face, the cute ass and the tattoo on her left shoulder. Bounce doesn’t seem to care either way which one he takes. The pink one seems to warm up to me on the couch as she shows me photos from her vacation in Okinawa. The other one whose arms are covered in bracelets mentions something about her “boifurendo (Japenglish for “boyfriend”) to Bounce. They tell me they can’t stay for long, meeting up with friends in a bit. We exchange contact info over Facebook. LINE and FB seam to work better than going for the number -- less threatening, less “nampa-ish”; the same can be said for approaching girls with a wingman -- more social, more friendly; stinks less of PUA.

“また遊ぼう(Let’s hang out again)” says the cute girl in the pink short-shorts to me. Bounce thinks she’s into me, that I’ve got a pretty good shot with that one. “Maybe,” I say. Then again, she IS Japanese, after all. Just ’cause she’s into you now doesn’t mean she won’t flake or lose interest five minutes later. We’ll see, though. No big deal either way. Bounce wants to head off to Jiujutsu. Class starts in a bit. The four of us stroll down to Namba Station. Little game outside the shop, where you’re supposed to fish a prize out of the tub of water. The girl in pink wins a squeak toy shaped like a dolphin and gives it to me. Cute.

Before heading off to the train, Bounce suggests I stick around with the two of them. Sounds more like they’ve got something else in mind. I don’t bother. 　

“Sorry,” says the one with the jewelry.

“また遊ぼう(Let’s hang out again),” the girl in pink says again before we go our separate ways.

I stroll around Dotomburi for a while. Supposed to meet up with Bounce again later. Sit down at a bar. Chat with the staff and clientele. Talk to two Brits, one guy named James Jones and one girl, a Vietnamese-Brit with a pretty face. The two’ve been shooting a documentary together about North Korea. I mention my B.A. Thesis was on NK refugees in China. Cool people to talk to, but I’m not sure if they’re screwing so I don’t bother making moves on the girl. Instead I go for a cute Japanese girl named Ayumi, whose friend is drunk as balls. Try to get closer but she mentions a boyfriend and says she’s leaving soon. Bounce can’t make it, so I head off to a club. It’s Monday, so the place is dead as a horse’s ass. Roam around Dotomburi a bit afterwards. Spot the same girl in pink walking past me with a group of friends, talking to some guy next to her. Not sure if she saw me, but I didn’t bother to say anything.

Spend the rest of my time contemplating what happened that day and what direction I should take in the coming weeks and months.

Comments, Thoughs

From my first impression, it looks like running game with a good wing is basically doing Japan on easy mode. Traditionally, I’ve always been one to work alone, but it definitely seems wings are something I’ll have to experiment with in the future.

So far that made…

235 approaches, 52 numbers, 13 dates, about 9 makeouts, 2 bangs

More info coming soon…

Post: #215

(08-13-2013 01:04 PM)Global_Cocksman Wrote:  I used to read other pickup forums where guys made it so sound so easy. Doing day game and picking up J girls at the book store, immediately insta dating them and laying them at their apartment a few hours later. Or fucking them in a back alley outside a nightclub. Fucking J girls at the beach during the summer. Etc, etc.

What happened to this? LOL. Are these guys full of shit, or just really good?

Also, do any of you belong to the Japan LAIR? I understand they don't let anyone new join anymore or something, but there's probably a wealth of knowledge on their private forums.

Japan is a weird place to get a read on. I got results which I was happy with, seeing 2-4 girls at once in a rotating harem for a couple of years, with pretty minimal game, just decent logistics. You could argue about the quality of the girls - probably only a couple of 8s and no 9s - but they included a porn actress, dolled-up Amemura gyaru, innocent college girls, one or two high school students etc. For context, I'm in my late 30s, white, not tall and not wealthy.

In the end, Japan offers the following:
* the women take care of their looks as much as any on earth. If you like their physical type you will be in a heaven of maybe not stunning, but consistently bangable girls.
* they have few taboos on casual sex, and are not jealous/possessive
*logistics are fantastic. Girls are used to meeting a guy, banging, then leaving at 11pm. In a big city like Osaka or Tokyo it's just a big anonymous fuck fest. And everyone is busy so you can schedule a date a week or even a month (!) in advance and your girl will arrive at your door on time. (that is, your regulars. If you haven't had sex with them yet, they can be flaky).

Post: #216

dupe

Post: #217

Quote:k. LINE and FB seam to work better than going for the number -- less threatening, less “nampa-ish”; the same can be said for approaching girls with a wingman -- more social, more friendly; stinks less of PUA.

If a girl offers you facebook, it's not usually a good sign. I always go for the number, she will automatically show up on LINE once her number is in your phonebook. Then you can add her if she doesn't respond to a text and try again. Believe me if she is interested the least in you, you should get a number.

LINE is crazy for a hot chick, I saw one girls phone, many chats, dudes sending trying to get her attention by sending purika photos and shit. Was interesting to see the attention they get on there.

Post: #218

It's been four days since my last approach, partly because my Budget tells me I need to cut back on going out, partly because I've been taking a break from approaching to come up with a new, more efficient plan of action.

If I've been keeping track properly, my 235 approaches can be broken down as follows...

112 club approaches (47.7%) > bang rate: 0.9%
98 street approaches (41.7%) > bang rate: 1%
19 Starbucks approaches (8.1%)
4 Whynot? Party (1.7%)
2 social circle (0.8%)

The vast majority of these approaches have taken place around Namba/Shinsaibashi, Umeda, and Kyobashi. Most of the club approaches were done at Pure (a shithole) and BarOne, with a bit of dabbling in Giraffe, Bambi, Joule, and Grand Café.

Other observations I've made...

- It has been pretty easy to get numbers from the street; however, getting any of them to call back or respond to texts is an entirely different task in and of itself. Japan is the first place where I've texted 10 or 11 women in a day, only to get 0 responses, which can get quite frustrating.

- There does not seem to be a terrible difference between approaching women on the street and in coffee shops or bookstores, the last of which I may have to gather a bit more data from. I'd like to think that there is a difference, but judging by the bleak response rate of texts and calls, that doesn't seem to be the case. It might be that you get fewer blowouts in coffee shops, as I've only encounterd one, but in general, the difficulty and success rates don't seem to differ greatly.

The only thing I can conclude from this is that I need to change my tactics. I have basically been hammering relentlessly at the front gates only to make a few dents and two small holes (i.e. the two bangs I've managed to get here). This is impractical, and I'm likely to burn myself out and become a nervous wreck trying to slay more women while I'm here.

From now on expect to see...

A Greater Focus on International Parties...

From the brief glimpse I managed to get from the Whynot Party I visited, it would seem that these interenational get-togethers are much more practical ways of meeting people, including women. Keep in mind, though that is only a first impression, and I'll need to look into it more to see if this is the case.

Fewer (Street) Approaches...

'Fewer' street aprpoache doesn't mean I'll stop doing them entirely. They can still serve the purpose of keeping me in shape, I'm less hesitant to approach in other situations, but 98 attemps and 1 lay have shone me that complete cold approaching in random public venues like the street (at least for me) is like ramming your fist relentlessly against a brick wall. Eventually you'll make a few cracks, maybe even punch in a hole or two, but you'll be worn out before you ever come close to tearing the wall down.

More Bars; Fewer Clubs...

One of the main reasons for this is that they're just cheaper (and I'll have a shoestring Budget this upcoming month!). Another is the fact that they tend to be more social, with the clientele more relaxed, easier to Approach, also it's not as loud, so you don't have to worry about going deaf.

(Once the Semester starts again) More University/Campus Approaches / Focus More on Chinese girls

I remember back home it was easy to get numbers at the University library and other parts of the campus, especially from Chinese exchange students. Since about 1/10 of the students here are foreign students from other parts of Asia (about 90% Chinese, probably 7% Korean, 1% Nepali, 1% Saudi-Arabian and 1% Vietnamese/Thai/Mongolian), I should have a good start here. The only reason I hesitant about doing this in the first place is that since this is a relatively small university, I wanted to avoid shitting where I eat.

Experiment More with Going out in Groups...

It Looks like this could be promising, as Monday proved to be easier than most of the solo appraoches I'd made since coming here.

Persistence and hard work are only one part of progress; Observation, experimentation, and taking time to notice flaws and look for other routes are also important.

Post: #219

I was gonna say you need to change tactics or youre gonna burn yourself out. Been there done that.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I think international parties are a good idea, what about university activities like parties? Or is that whynot some university thing?

Post: #220

Once again, good reading. I've never gone out with a wingman, or knowingly been a wingman though. I guess I should look into that. Alot of times I here about wingmen fucking it up for a guy though, so I guess you gotta choose wisely.

Post: #221

Recap of Past Events: The Chinese Girl and the Meetup with Scotch

I haven't updated this thread in a while mainly because I've been taking a break, not doing any approaches for about 10 days.

The Chinese Girl:

Met up with the Chinese Girl mentioned in one of the earlier posts. 32 years old, 150-something cm (a bit taller with high heals), hair dyed blood-red, all in all decent looking. We set up a meeting for Sunday at Amemura over a few text exchanges that take one evening -- with Japanese chics, most of whom usually take at least ten hours to respond to a single SMS, this would've probably taken an entire week. Saturday, I get a text (since this is Japan, I'm assuming it's a flake text). She's texting to confirm the time/place!??? Well slap me around and call me a bitch, I don't believe it!
We hit a couple bars before roaming around the Dotomburi Matsuri together. Seems promising. With luck I might be able to get the bang by date 2 or 3.

The Kyoto Excursion and the Meetup with Skotch...

I decide to take a quick daytrip to Kyoto. Since Skotch is there too, I text him saying I'll be in town. Check out a temple (Kiyomizudera 清水寺, beautiful place by the way); chat with a few girls on the way. At the entrance I spot a pretty girl with braces in a very cool looking Yugata (kimono-like garment worn during the summer), and ask to take a picture, since the folks at home don't know what Yugatas look like (this one isn't intended as an approach, just killing time). She suggests taking a picture together and says she'll post it on Facebook, gives me her email adress and tells me to search it (I didn't ask). Later hear her talking to a guy friend in Chinese; ”哦，我本来以为你们是日本人！” Oh, I originally thought you were Japanese!" Shock and awe, as usual. They're Taiwanese tourists who used to live in Japan, but are now just visiting for a few days.

I roam around the temple (again, very nice place, despite being pretty hot that day) and stroll around town a bit before sitting down at the Starbucks, looking puzzled at my map, start talking to this girl sitting next to me by asking where the hell on this map we were. She put on this typical bullshit smily demeanor that a lot of J-Girls have -- makes me wary, but I go along with it just for laughs. She gives me her Facebook (I decided to try that a few times to see if it got me better results than going for a number.

Two minutes later, I meet Skotch in front of the train station. Tall guy (taller than me, and even I'm fucking Goliath to the Japanese, he must be King Kong to them), thin, decent looking, with trimmed, kinda dark-blond hair; he's adopted that preppy look that the J-guys go for (one thing I've noticed is that most of the hot chics you see walking around town are with these soft, metrosexual preppy types; maybe I should do a bit of experimentation with my image, "gay it up a bit" as I later said to him).

"Looks like you've been banging your head against the wall," he says when we meet. We decide to head to the same Starbucks where I opened the last girl. We sit down and chat for about 40 min. It was interesting to hear insights from someone who has been here longer than me about the local women here and why they are - as I like to put it - full of shit.

I'm not going to get into too much detail, but his advice more or less mirrored that of others who've posted on this thread. Fewer street approaches, less of a shotgun approach, instead be more like a sniper; suggested more or less camping out at Starbucks with a laptop or a book, waiting for some good prospects to come by (something I went and tried the following day). Also he suggested "teasing the shit out of them" as he putted...negging, more or less.

We bullshit for a while longer...He's got a date with a girl, but can't remember whether she's one of the hot girls he approached or another...uglier one. Take the subway two wherever he's supposed to meet up with...whoever. Skotch chats up these two girls, asking if they're from Nagoya (a place known for trashy girls, as he says), works a bit, but they lose interest. On to the meeting point, turns out the girl he's supposed to meet is the ugly one (didn't get a good look at her, though. Decent body...boring face from my vantage point). They ditch and I'm left to roam the area by myself.

Spot a plain-faced, but still very cute tourist (Chinese from the looks of it) brousing beside a shop. Walk up and ask where the hell I am and if there's anything interesting nearby. Doesn't speak Japanese...switch to Chinese; stroll around town looking for shit together; too late in the evening by now, though (about 18:00)...everything's closed, including the shrines and temples. Try to get her out to a nearby bar, but she's tired and wants to go back to her hotel, so we part ways.

Skotch texts me while I'm with her, saying "Damn, musta been pretty drunk...". Looks like he made out with his date, but couldn't drag her back to his crib. Nothing lost I guess. Bored, I approach two other girls, just for laughs (again, on the street, hard to break old habits, I guess); the first says she likes foreigners, gives me her Facebook. "また連絡しよう” she says, or something like that. Probly just J-girl fluff talk, but what the hell. Chat with another group of girls by the river, chat with another one leaning by the river; open by asking why Japanese rivers are always so shallow (bullshit, I know, but what the hell). Chat for a while; pull out my cellphone to look at the time...not sure when the last train is. "ごめん、IPhone持ってない、でも　(sorry, I don't have an iPhone, but...)” I say, pointing at my phone.
"あ、番号？（Oh, number?)" she asks, before putting her number in...eh...that's not what I meant, but I'll take that, too.

Both these last girls seem more into proximity than I've usually seen with J-girls. This last one kept leaning against me, while the other one squeezed and held on to my hand when I shook it...maybe imagination, but Kyoto is still worth checking out...maybe my results will be different there. I plan to go back for more sightseeing anyway...

So far that made about...

239 approaches, 59 numbers, 13 dates, 8 or 9 makeouts, 2 bangs

More info coming soon...

Post: #222

2013-8-21 (Wed)

Camped out at Starbucks for a while with my laptop. Texted the Chinese girl trying to set another date...again, nearly instant response. Proceed to text the Japanese girl from Kyoto, just for fun...responds to the first text after about four hours, but not to the second...as expected.

A pretty, but not very typically Japanese girl sits across directly across from me, seems to notice me a bit. Not what one would call hot but very naturally pretty to me...no dyed hair, very little makeup from the looks of it (extremely rare in Japan!), but still quite good looking. Long, fatigue patterned skirt...not typically Japanese at all...seems enticing. I open her by asking what the reading of one of the Kanji on an SMS. Very warm response, very pretty smile....seems like more than just fake politeness...I'm not used to this. 19 year old student...when I say I'm from Germany, she says she's taking German lessons. More good signs. As Japanese foreign language classes are completely useless, it's not surprising she can't say anything other than "Danke" and "Guten Tag", but still you have to admire the interest/effort. I say we should meet up for language practice (dumb excuse). We exchange numbers (seriously...fuck Facebook), again, another very warm (un-Japanese) smile.

I'm not getting my hopes up, but at least she left a nice impression. The interaction was a breath of fresh air.

My plan is to continue trolling Starbucks for now...my original qualms about it were that everytime, there was only one seat left, and it was between two old ladies or salarymen. However, the sniper approach mentioned by Skotch seems like a good idea.

So far that makes about....

240 approaches, 60 numbers, 13 dates, 8(?) makeouts, 2 bangs

More info coming soon...

Post: #223

Good description, yeah... She had a good body, but a boring face. Kiss closed, may not go out with her again unless she agrees to come to me.

Yeah, I'm a big advocate of sniping. I think having a good approach, or having a good reason to approach is extremely important here. They're just so aware of nampa and shit that it helps. Imagine walking up to an American girl on the street and saying, "I'm going to try to pick you up now. Where is the nearest pet store?" That's about what I think street approaches are like over here.

We talked about a lot of stuff.
1) Sniper game
2) Teasing (or negging if you prefer...)
3) Gaying up the wardrobe a bit (just give it a shot)
4) Roissy non-sequitur text game into Roosh text game
ex: vodka pasta → hang out? → I'll think of a コース → offer two days → exotic food like Mexican → time of meeting.
5) Always sitting at the counter or bar if available

You know what... Now that I think about it, I've learned so much since starting my 100 approach thread that it might be prudent to put some of this stuff in there. I'll try to make a better writeup later.

Post: #224

(08-22-2013 02:05 AM)Skotch Wrote:  Good description, yeah... She had a good body, but a boring face. Kiss closed, may not go out with her again unless she agrees to come to me.

You could offer to cook at your place. Actually, I should probably do this for the next few dates, as it's a hell of a lot cheeper and you've already got her isolated. Plus, if she flakes, you at least haven't waisted time and money on transportation. How've your experiences been with these things?

Post: #225

Tried the Vodka Pasta thing with ten former flakes today, just as an experiment. Keep in mind these are girls who've already flaked, so I can already tell they're not interested, but I did it just for laughs, anyway. Here are the results...

Girl 1: no response

Girl 2: no response

Girl 3: (2 1/2 hours later) responds with "ごめんなさいサルゴン！ずっと返せてなくて！”/ Sorry, Sargon! Haven't gotten back to you this whole time!" >> "(Me) Sorry, wrong number. Who is this?" >> no response

Girl 4: (3 minutes later) responds with "だれですか？”/"Who is this?"

Girl 5: no response

Girl 6: no response

Girl 7: no response

Girl 8: no response

Girl 9: no response

Girl 10: responds with "？？？" >> (Me) ”ごめん、誰ですか？”/"Sorry, who is this?" >> (Her)"千賀です。久しぶりです。”/"It's Chika. It's been a while." >> (Me) 千賀？何の千賀？電車の人？/"Chika? Which Chika? The one from the train?" >> (Her) "そうですよー”/"Yeah, that's right." >> (Me) "あっ、もう覚えてる。最近はどうですか？”Oh, now I remember. How've you been?" >> No reponse

3/10 response rate, with one responding only because she had deleated my number and couldn't recognize it, and with neither responding after being pressed further. Again, doesn't say much since these girls had already flaked before, but interesting nevertheless. I'll have to try it with future numbers I get.

Other than that, set a date with the girl from yesterday. This one responded to each text within the space of ten minutes, again completely uncharacteristic of Japanese women. Good signs so far. We'll be meeting next Saturday (if she shows up). Other than that there's a date set for Saturday with a J-girl who's name I can't remember now. Sunday, I'll be meeting the Chinese girl for Round 2 (going to try to go for the bang this time). I'm actually kind of hoping the girl this coming Saturday will flake, as right now I'm broke as fuck and need to save up a bit.

More info coming soon...