Post: #51

(03-19-2013 10:18 AM)rakishness Wrote:  I have a better question.

When will Western men become so feminized that they start wearing makeup?

5 yrs? 10 yrs? 20 yrs?

Zero years.

"Tough Guys" with "elite bodies" already wear glitter on their shirts and make up in America.

There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen on the forum.

Post: #52

(03-19-2013 10:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen on the forum.

Post: #53

(03-19-2013 10:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:18 AM)rakishness Wrote:  I have a better question.

When will Western men become so feminized that they start wearing makeup?

5 yrs? 10 yrs? 20 yrs?

Zero years.

"Tough Guys" with "elite bodies" already wear glitter on their shirts and make up in America.

There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen on the forum.

Ha! Just like how this is different from wearing a glittery boxing belt and getting make up put on a person before a boxing match.

Perception is reality.

I do agree though, zero years dudes are already pussies.

Post: #54

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Post: #55

Quote:Yep. Also people don't realize they are not making fair comparisons. What I mean by this is most guys at the gym actually have no game because guys have no game in general and going to the gym more than gaming is in fact weakening their game. So if we assume a girl has a choice between a guy with game or a guy with game + A banging body it's a no brainer who wins that battle.

Another example is guys who have to have a banging body to get laid dont have the best facial features. Facial features are more important so you can have a shit body but a 10x better face and you are more attractive than a guy with a 5 face and a 10 body. So if one can't tell what an attracive male face is by default it's now impossible to tell how attractive a man is. No? (Ie: if you're admitting you can't tell if a man has a pretty face how can you separate the impact of a banging body?) is the point I'm attempting to make here.

This should be a dead giveaway that my facial features are not that great.

In terms of Roosh saying attrativenes is not universal for girls, I have to 100% disagree. Women fall in love in their mind, with their instincts as a quick check, and the mind can be trained to believe anything. That's a whole different tangent and deserves a long post.

But back to getting a body, if you are a 9 face wise it doesn't matter as long as you are not a fat fuck. If you are a 5, you are stupid not to hit the gym, if you ever want to pull 7+'s regularly.

It is hilarious, but so true that guys who work out desperately mostly to attract women and pull are in fact getting worse at game. They workout all week, go out friday, maybe saturday night and hope to pull. Their strategy? Show up with tight fitting shirts and hope to get approached. Make eye contact, and think 'This girl is looking at me, she is into me.. let's see if she comes closer, and maybe says something!'

Its hilarious, because if they don't get approached at all/enough, they will attribute to not being attractive enough. So they work out harder at the gym, and harder. Eventually, they may get lucky and find an aggressive woman that will pull them. They will attribute their success to their quality of 'game'. What do they do? Workout harder..

I rather just workout and be healthy and choose to approach whoever attracts me. Don't care too much if my body makes a difference.

And have still yet to determine the power of facial features. Not sure if the face or body is more important in the physical attraction aspect.

Post: #56

(03-19-2013 11:07 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:18 AM)rakishness Wrote:  I have a better question.

When will Western men become so feminized that they start wearing makeup?

5 yrs? 10 yrs? 20 yrs?

Zero years.

"Tough Guys" with "elite bodies" already wear glitter on their shirts and make up in America.

There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen on the forum.

Ha! Just like how this is different from wearing a glittery boxing belt and getting make up put on a person before a boxing match.

Perception is reality.

I do agree though, zero years dudes are already pussies.

What is the f*ck is a "boxing belt"?

Championship belts aren't "glittery".

WBA:



IBF:



WBC:







And no one gets "make up put on a person before a boxing match".

You must be watching drag queen boxing or something.

No hate though, everyone on here has their own hobbies.

My advice to you is to start watching real boxing though.

Incorrect Perception is Incorrect Reality. - Sun Tzu

Post: #57

Haha I meant before their interview my bad. anyone whose been on live TV on a legit program knows they get caked up before.

Free rep point from me if anyone can spot the link I'm making here with the G and the "Roosh bias thread" something like 5 notches down in this forum.

Anyway just go lift weights guys, just don't think girls are going to go and approach you outright because you have 70" biceps.

(Hint the sun tzu bolded comment applies to his own post! Mind fuck!) this forum is great.

Post: #58

(03-19-2013 08:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I also think only a female (or possibly a gay man) can evaluate male attractiveness.

Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought - "I look tired today???"

Or, got a fresh hair cut, a new custom suit, looked in the mirror and thought - "damn, I'm looking good???"

If so, you have just evaluated your own attractiveness.

Every time a man looks in the mirror, he evaluates his own attractiveness.

Do you really think a straight man can not judge who is good looking and who is not???

Lets do a test...

Which guy is better looking???

A.


B.

Is this really a difficult decision??? Are we gay because we can make this decision???

Of course not. Its a very easy decision.

Aesthetics is about symmetry, balance, and mathematics.

The Golden Ratio, etc.

Any person can recognize these things. I'm sure HenCred has this ability also.

****

In terms of working out and having a good body...

There is really no downside to it. It can only help you. Not only in terms of getting girls but also your self esteem, confidence, energy level, happiness, health, sleep, circulation, etc, etc.

There are a million benefits to being healthy.

We should be improving ourselves in all areas. Looks, personality, verbal skills, fashion, wealth, health, etc, etc.

Don't ignore any areas!

****

G and Westcoast,

I love watching you guys debate!

It's like when I used to referee the backyard boxing matches between my older brother and my younger brother!

Post: #59

(03-19-2013 10:01 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What I want to know is this:

How does reading Bang Iceland effect "Henly" Shirts?®

Why do you keep trying to derail a useful thread? If you don't like this thread please don't post in it.

Post: #60

(03-19-2013 12:37 PM)MikeinMKE Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:01 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  What I want to know is this:

How does reading Bang Iceland effect "Henly" Shirts?®

Why do you keep trying to derail a useful thread? If you don't like this thread please don't post in it.

Settle down.

Not trying to "derail", making a joke.

Because this is the 7000th thread asking if being in shape helps you get girls.

Of course it does.

Along with being taller, dressing better, being smarter, making more money, more status, better logistics etc. They teach this on this first day of The School of Life.

Now do you understand why I was making a joke?

At least my question was original.

Which reminds me. No one answered it. I will ask it again:

How does reading Bang Iceland effect "Henly" Shirts?®

Post: #61

(03-19-2013 12:42 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Which reminds me. No one answered it. I will ask it again:

How does reading Bang Iceland effect "Henly" Shirts?®

Now G, I know that the reason you don't know the answer to this question is because you spend too much time at tropical beach-side destinations rather than dark, icy, and isolated locales.

Let me give you some Henley knowledge. Iceland will definitely affect the Henly material. So while on breezy Pacific Beach even in December you can wear a cotton henly, in Iceland during that time you definitely want to be rocking something made of wool, cashmere, or fleece. Once you have your Iceland Henly game on point, just go out at 3 am like Roosh recommens and bang away.

Pro tip: keep that Icelandic girl away from your cashmere henly; shit is a bitch to clean if they throw up while you're banging doggy style.

Post: #62

(03-19-2013 10:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

ZyZZ mofo!!!! The King of Aesthetics!!!!

You would like him. He died from too much coke and E.

Post: #63

(03-19-2013 12:01 AM)houston Wrote:  ^^Do American Eagle and Express make good fitted v necks?

The best V-neck I have is Express "strech" V neck. Im a little dude (5'6ish 160) and it fits like a glove. I have about 7 different brands.

Get Express Houston. Plus Express always has sales.

Post: #64

The G and I are not even debating.

If no one takes the jab at making the connection I'll post the answer in 5 hours.

Question posed above how his response is a direct link to the Roosh bias post.

Great post Gio, yeah I am sure I'm a flaming faggot for knowing A is uglier than B. I should hang up my white salsa dancing pants too because that has never worked either because I am so scared chicks will think I am gay. I should hang up all my different costumes and stick with one so I am stuck with only one variety of chick for life sticking to the same comfort zone for the rest of my life. Yeah. Would rather catch that Hivv.

Post: #65

(03-18-2013 10:40 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Wreck that belief system.

I love that fucking quote!

Fuck belief systems!!!

Create your own belief system which is custom made and finely tuned to fit your current environment.

Too many people live under the belief system that they inherited from their parents. Which is usually out dated, blue pill, un-evolved, played out, old world bullshit. Some wisdom last forever but new environments require updated thinking!

Post: #66

(03-19-2013 12:21 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I also think only a female (or possibly a gay man) can evaluate male attractiveness.

Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought - "I look tired today???"

Or, got a fresh hair cut, a new custom suit, looked in the mirror and thought - "damn, I'm looking good???"

If so, you have just evaluated your own attractiveness.

Every time a man looks in the mirror, he evaluates his own attractiveness.

Do you really think a straight man can not judge who is good looking and who is not???

Nope. I don't think a straight man can evaluate what "looks," if any, would attract a particular female.

Post: #67

(03-19-2013 12:21 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I also think only a female (or possibly a gay man) can evaluate male attractiveness.

Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought - "I look tired today???"

Or, got a fresh hair cut, a new custom suit, looked in the mirror and thought - "damn, I'm looking good???"

If so, you have just evaluated your own attractiveness.

Every time a man looks in the mirror, he evaluates his own attractiveness.

Do you really think a straight man can not judge who is good looking and who is not???

Nope. I don't think a straight man can evaluate what "looks," if any, would attract a particular female. You don't get boners from looking at guys. At least I don't. See what I mean? Think about how gay it is for a straight man to say he knows what look a female finds attractive. Lamest thing I've ever heard.

Post: #68

First, no homo. I think what HC is getting at is our mental model/perception of what we think would be attractive to women is different, sometimes very different, from what women are actually attracted to. We care primarily how a woman looks, and that necessarily carries over to our perception of what male looks we find attractive.

Set aside the troll vs. model comparison. In the middle of the male appearance distribution, can we really definitively say what women find attractive? Hell, we can't even trust what women SAY they find attractive, so how can we know?

Anyway, the bottom line is just to always try to improve your health (look good), wealth ($$), and knowledge (read a goddamn book). These are all intrinsic goods.

Post: #69

(03-19-2013 01:34 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Think about how gay it is for a straight man to say he knows what look a female finds attractive. Lamest thing I've ever heard.

Did you take my test?

Which guy will be more attractive to women???

A.


B.

You really have no idea???

C'mon man!

Obviously, B is going to attract more girls then A.

Wouldn't you agree?

Or, are you claiming that after looking at these 2 photos, you honestly can not determine which guy will be more attractive to women???

The answer is obvious. Quit playin!

Post: #70

(03-19-2013 01:34 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 12:21 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I also think only a female (or possibly a gay man) can evaluate male attractiveness.

Have you ever looked in the mirror and thought - "I look tired today???"

Or, got a fresh hair cut, a new custom suit, looked in the mirror and thought - "damn, I'm looking good???"

If so, you have just evaluated your own attractiveness.

Every time a man looks in the mirror, he evaluates his own attractiveness.

Do you really think a straight man can not judge who is good looking and who is not???

Nope. I don't think a straight man can evaluate what "looks," if any, would attract a particular female. You don't get boners from looking at guys. At least I don't. See what I mean? Think about how gay it is for a straight man to say he knows what look a female finds attractive. Lamest thing I've ever heard.

I think I found the gap here. You're speaking on an individual basis versus a macro basis. In which case I agree with you.

If you give me a photo of some cute female no I cannot tell you what guy she will find attractive. I need the full life story.

Now if you give me two photos of two guys, you tell me which country they are in and which city, I'd wager money you can correctly guess who will be favored more. Maybe you won't agree with that but I'll just leave it at that.

We can at least agree the troll is better looking than the bike dude.

But yeah I think we're talking schematics on micro/macro view of attractiveness.

Post: #71

Jeez.

I step away from the thread to go to the beach and get a number of a fake boobed Spring Break girl from Georgia, and now everyone is rating guys.

I need to keep you cats on a short lease.

Post: #72

(03-19-2013 10:43 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:18 AM)rakishness Wrote:  I have a better question.

When will Western men become so feminized that they start wearing makeup?

5 yrs? 10 yrs? 20 yrs?

Zero years.

"Tough Guys" with "elite bodies" already wear glitter on their shirts and make up in America.

There was some guy who made youtube videos with his shirt off that all the younger guys on here were in love with that wore make up named YYxYxYY or something.

It was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen on the forum.

Hahahaha. People were getting pissed when some guys, including me, were asking if he was an undercover fag.

Post: #73

Well boxers do put vaseline on their faces before fights.

Is this man gay? He has some hair grease or something in his hair and is wearing a skirt:



What about this outfit? Looks like some gay Roman/gladiator homosexual fetish:

Post: #74

Let me chime in on this. Having a good body does help. It's the same way wearing good clothes and not bummy ass rags helps.

Nothing is absolute but it makes your work more efficient.

Brush your teeth, wash your body, gain some muscle, smell good, put some decent threads on, get a lair easily accessible from your hunt zone, convey high status and go in and put in work.

All these composites make a whole difference.

A strong healthy body conveys health and most lizards are drawn to copulate with healthy men.

I've never had a lizard honestly say that she finds men with a well developed physique repulsive. That is unless, she is sick in the head and you don't really want to make sick headed lizards your target demographic.

Those who have worked out and changed their physique from average to above average know the score. Those who have remained tubby or scrawny think it's all hype. The same way those think status doesn't matter. The same way those think money doesn't matter.

Again it helps and I speak from personal experience. I've enhanced my physique from lean to powerful and found the following:

1) Those who like what you are presenting are almost drawn towards you to touch you your exposed physique like moths to a light.

2) Found it easier to close when I exposed the physique. It's the same way once I saw a lizard in the library who had a very ordinary face back in school. I wouldn't have paid her no mind (face was nothing to write home about) but for some reason that particular day she was walking past me on the stairs wearing some leggings that really accentuated her bom physique and when I saw the shape of her arse, I knew my study plans were fcuked. My primal urges had kicked in and I was a prisoner. I had to designate the rest of my time to approaching her so we could fcuk (we did eventually, a month later). I was nervous at the time but I felt like I would die if I didn't do something so I did.

My point in mention is: don't underestimate the sexual nature of human beings.
Lizards actually enjoy a good physique over a sloppy one the EXACT same way men enjoy fcuking a lizard with a great body over one with an ordinary body.

Post: #75

(03-19-2013 08:04 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I also think only a female (or possibly a gay man) can evaluate male attractiveness. Too many times I've seen the most unlikely of guys pull good quality consistently. Of any guy I know, the dude I know who gets laid the most doesn't even workout (at all) and doesn't have an "elite" body. He has money and charisma and can talk his ass off though.

See what you did there? You observed, "He has money and charisma and can talk his ass off though."

In other words, those are things you believe women find attractive in a man. You have evaluated male attractiveness.

No, that doesn't make you gay.