Post: #201

(12-30-2013 04:11 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  This thread has been a huge help to me, so here's my update.

Backstory:Consistent porn use since I was a teen had basically ruined my sex drive by the time I was in my early 20s. I could get hard with porn, or if a naked girl was blowing me after I hadn't jerked it for a week, but otherwise my libido was basically non-existent.

(For the record, I'm white, mid 20s, very healthy in all other respects [I lift regularly, walk everyday, cook all my own meals, paleo/low-carb 95% of the time, drink a few glasses of red wine each week]. I had my T levels checked as soon as I found NoFap, just to be sure the issue wasn't physiological, and I was actually a bit above average. My experiences since have convinced me that porn was indeed the problem.)

Once I discovered NoFap, I immediately recognized all my symptoms and gave it a shot. I managed 75 days without masturbation/orgasm, but more importantly went 8 months without porn. I slowly went from never being hard, to getting consistent morning wood, to finally being able to become aroused by looking at/touching/kissing a girl, instead of only through blowjobs.

Due to an extended dry spell and an alcohol binge, I fell off the wagon one night back in October. I woke up the next morning knowing I had taken a few steps back: no morning wood, increased lethargy, all the same symptoms from back when I was a daily porn user.

Fortunately, I've cut that shit out for good now (seeing how quickly my body reverted back to its previous condition finally cemented in me the importance of a zero-tolerance porn viewing policy) and it only took a couple weeks for me to get back to normal. But, shortly after my incident I had no idea how long it was going to take to recover-I was afraid it would take as long as it had the first time-and I wasn't willing to go so long without a functioning penis again. So I decided to order some dick pills.

Isaac_J:

Of course you have more of an ability to describe your personal experiences than anyone else, and in that regard, they are what they are.

I am just going by my quick reading of your post and your description of your history (your motivation to try out dick pills), and in that regard, I have trouble understanding how a seemingly normal healthy guy in his mid-20s would have trouble getting erections. That does NOT seem normal, and I don't buy the problem being attributed to too much porn consumption. Doesn't sound right, even though that is the conclusion that you have reached based on your circumstances.

Surely, we each have our experiences, but when I was in my mid 20s, I could bang a girl several times in a day and also wank to porn in the same day and still be able to get erections fairly easily, and certainly, I am NO exceptional specimen of a guy with any kinds of sexual prowess. I consider myself to be pretty normal in several regards.... but in essence, when I was in my mid 20s, I could get an erection at least 5 times in a day and ejaculate at least that many times in a day, and it would NOT take me 24 hours to recuperate. And, I was NOT taking any special supplements.

In that respect, I cannot even understand the need for normal guy in his mid-20s to any dick pills, unless there is a specific issue that the guy is attempting to address, such as wanting to be able to get an erection after extensive drug or alcohol intake or wanting to be able to endure longer by getting and keeping an erection after banging - and being able to continue to bang in marathon sessions.

I guess what i am suggesting is that it should NOT take 24 hours or even 20 days for a fairly normal guy in his 20s to recuperate from blowing his wad - and your physiological description seems somewhat as if you are a normal guy in many regards.

Like I said, surely, you may have your own experiences in terms of difficulties getting an erection, but the circumstances that you describe seem like they do NOT quite add up, and if you are taking dick pills under those kinds of circumstances in order to compensate for your erection difficulties, then your situation may become worse from using those drugs.

Have you seen a doctor about your situation? I am NOT trying to be denigrating or to make issues out of NOTHING, but your described situation just does NOT seem NORMAL... or even to be a reason that a guy should start dick pills before maybe trying some other way to get erections on a regular and daily basis.

Post: #202

(12-30-2013 05:46 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  Isaac_J:

I am just going by my quick reading of your post and your description of your history (your motivation to try out dick pills), and in that regard, I have trouble understanding how a seemingly normal healthy guy in his mid-20s would have trouble getting erections.

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In that respect, I cannot even understand the need for normal guy in his mid-20s to any dick pills, unless there is a specific issue that the guy is attempting to address, such as wanting to be able to get an erection after extensive drug or alcohol intake or wanting to be able to endure longer by getting and keeping an erection after banging - and being able to continue to bang in marathon sessions.

I guess what i am suggesting is that it should NOT take 24 hours or even 20 days for a fairly normal guy in his 20s to recuperate from blowing his wad - and your physiological description seems somewhat as if you are a normal guy in many regards.

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Have you seen a doctor about your situation? I am NOT trying to be denigrating or to make issues out of NOTHING, but your described situation just does NOT seem NORMAL... or even to be a reason that a guy should start dick pills before maybe trying some other way to get erections on a regular and daily basis.

I appreciate the concern. Yes, I saw a doctor about this, in addition to getting some blood work done. Everything came back normal. I agree that it does seem like a very strange situation, though. It wasn't until I read similar stories from guys online that I even figured porn was the problem, and I only became convinced while trying to quit. I'd see myself start to improve, and go back to watching porn, only to see my symptoms come back.

If I didn't make it clear, I'm fine now. I just enjoy using the pills for precisely the things you mentioned: marathon bang sessions and drunk sex. I don't feel like I need them anymore; I just really like them. I won't buy any more after I finish off my current batch, though. Doesn't seem like a good long-term habit to get into.

If I might ask, how old are you? I started watching porn when I was 13, so my brain literally grew up on the stuff. I had nearly a decade of porn use under my belt before I even lost my virginity. From what I've read of others' experiences, the older guys who grew up before free, ubiquitous high-speed internet porn lack many of the problems that guys my age are experiencing.

Post: #203

@Isaac Jordan: It's good that the stuff works. Do yourself a favor and go easy on it. Using it too often can result in a higher chance of getting side effects and over time your body can develop a tolerance, so you'll need to take more to get the same effect. It's one thing to use it every time you bone and another to use it whenever you hope you're going to. Rather than taking it before you go out, stick one in your pocket and go in the bathroom just before bang and swallow it.

Post: #204

(12-30-2013 07:06 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  I appreciate the concern. Yes, I saw a doctor about this, in addition to getting some blood work done. Everything came back normal. I agree that it does seem like a very strange situation, though. It wasn't until I read similar stories from guys online that I even figured porn was the problem, and I only became convinced while trying to quit. I'd see myself start to improve, and go back to watching porn, only to see my symptoms come back.

If I didn't make it clear, I'm fine now. I just enjoy using the pills for precisely the things you mentioned: marathon bang sessions and drunk sex. I don't feel like I need them anymore; I just really like them. I won't buy any more after I finish off my current batch, though. Doesn't seem like a good long-term habit to get into.

Your follow-up description does seem to clarify the situation a bit better, and thanks for that.

Likely there should NOT be any problem keeping dick pills on-hand for unexpected marathon sessions or some potential drinking binge (b/c guys will NOT always know when something like that could occur) that is so long as the dick pills do NOT go bad from being in storage for 6 months or so. I know that some people become really worried about taking dated medicines, and there could be some problems with allowing them to get too old (if they were to be in storage for "emergency" purposes).

(12-30-2013 07:06 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  If I might ask, how old are you? I started watching porn when I was 13, so my brain literally grew up on the stuff. I had nearly a decade of porn use under my belt before I even lost my virginity.

Yes, this age of when you grew up could be an effect that is different from my experience(s). I am in my early 40s, and it seems as if internet porn was NOT as readily available as it is today. Even in the mid-90s, internet porn was NOT so easy to access b/c connection internet speeds were sometimes a bit of a battle - and the quality of internet porn lately has improved a lot... probably moreso due to internet speeds as you mentioned.

(12-30-2013 07:06 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  From what I've read of others' experiences, the older guys who grew up before free, ubiquitous high-speed internet porn lack many of the problems that guys my age are experiencing.

Upon further reflection, I agree this could be a BIGGER factor than what I had originally contemplated, and certainly, the access to porn can play out differently for different guys.

Post: #205

hi fellas,

I'm mostly a lurker here but I thought I would post my first-hand experience with dick pills.

Based on the recommendation earlier in this thread, I purchased the generic Cialis off of clearskypharmacy (link back on page 1 or 2) about a month ago. The pills arrived about 10 days later. I tested them out by taking a half pill and they're definitely legit. I had some good quality wood that night even though I wasn't interested. The effect was exactly the same as with namebrand Cialis which I also have.

They're about 1/4 the price of what I get at the pharmacy here.

My situation: I'm in my mid-40s, do NOT have clinical ED, and have above-average T levels according to my latest blood test. I work out, run, eat right, have an athletic build, don't watch porn (< 5 x in the last year).
Things are basically good for me. I asked my doctor for dick pills about a year ago simply because I don't have the interest or focus I did when I was a younger man. For example, once I would cum, it would be over for the night. I definitely couldn't perform > 1 time in a night. If I wasn't sufficiently focused I would just lose my hard-on without even finishing myself. Basically I could give a fuck about fucking, most of the time, but my dick was physically functional.

At about that time I was frivorced by my wife and developed an interest in another woman. Having taken the Red Pill about 12 months prior, I was aware of Heartiste's 16 Commandments of Poon, in particular Commandment XIV (this one being "Fuck Her Good", see here:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixte...s-of-poon/ ) so I wanted to make sure I fucked my prospective woman good and hard the first time I had the chance. Let the historical record indicate that I fucked her hard ALL night, and into the morning hours, in the morning, and before lunch. That relationship is going great, much better than the previous one (pre-Red Pill that ended in frivorce).

My conclusion , based on my roughly 1 year of experience is this: If you find your interest fading but still wish to perform like a young man, you should go for the dick pills whether or not you have ED. You can have wood like a young man again! Even better in my opinion, I can literally pound my woman untill I run out of steam. I get physically exhausted before my dick goes soft. (and I ran 9 marathons last year).

I have had no side effects except for minor head-aches 2-3 hours after taking a pill. A couple times I took an Advil but normally nothing.

There are several dick pills on the market (Viagra, Cialis, etc..) but I've only ever used Cialis or the generic. I liked this option because its effect lasts for 2-3 days and due to my present circumstances I tend to have 2-3 days of activity followed by a few weeks off.

Dick pills: highly recommended by this middled-aged guy.

Post: #206

I think it would be funny to grind up some Viagra or Cialis and bake it into some cookies or brownies. Then hand them out to your guy friends before hitting the club.

Post: #207

I haven't tried any dick pills, but I found some extenze at my vitamin shoppe.. Will it help me last longer? Is there anywhere to buy cialis over the counter instead of online?

Post: #208

went to the doc and had him write me a script for the hell of it, for Cialis. Just for two pills because I wanted to try it. $90.... Yes, you read right, $90 for two Cialis 10mg pills. Anyone see prices this high?

Post: #209

(02-26-2014 05:28 PM)Vaun Wrote:  went to the doc and had him write me a script for the hell of it, for Cialis. Just for two pills because I wanted to try it. $90.... Yes, you read right, $90 for two Cialis 10mg pills. Anyone see prices this high?

WOW!!!! You better save those pills for the right moment(s)... to get the most bang for the buck.

Post: #210

(02-26-2014 08:50 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(02-26-2014 05:28 PM)Vaun Wrote:  went to the doc and had him write me a script for the hell of it, for Cialis. Just for two pills because I wanted to try it. $90.... Yes, you read right, $90 for two Cialis 10mg pills. Anyone see prices this high?

WOW!!!! You better save those pills for the right moment(s)... to get the most bang for the buck.

couldnt do it, maybe I will just lay off the booze and try to get more sleep..

Post: #211

How old are you v?

Can you get a prescription that easily

Post: #212

I think that if you are gaming right, and only going home with girls who you are physically/sexually attracted too, then there should never be a need for these pills.

Once in a while I guess is okay, but forcing your body to do anything that isn't "natural" has to be a bad idea. Be it caffeine, drugs, excessive alcohol, whatever.

Just my opinion.

Post: #213

Quote:Once in a while I guess is okay, but forcing your body to do anything that isn't "natural" has to be a bad idea. Be it caffeine, drugs, excessive alcohol, whatever.

Next you'll be telling me to "just be yourself" with girls as well.

Post: #214

(02-27-2014 11:34 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote:Once in a while I guess is okay, but forcing your body to do anything that isn't "natural" has to be a bad idea. Be it caffeine, drugs, excessive alcohol, whatever.

Next you'll be telling me to "just be yourself" with girls as well.

Well I Just think that too much of anything is bound to either make it boring, or have less effect.

Oh, and "Just be yourself"?... Too much effort.

Post: #215

(02-27-2014 11:50 AM)UK2014traveller Wrote:  

(02-27-2014 11:34 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote:Once in a while I guess is okay, but forcing your body to do anything that isn't "natural" has to be a bad idea. Be it caffeine, drugs, excessive alcohol, whatever.

Next you'll be telling me to "just be yourself" with girls as well.

Well I Just think that too much of anything is bound to either make it boring, or have less effect.

Oh, and "Just be yourself"?... Too much effort.

UK- traveller:

Your initial comment did get into a bit of a side-tangent... b/c NO one, including Vaun, said anything about taking too much of anything... In fact, Vaun said that he was considering trying the Cialis.. two pills would hardly be "excessive." Also, if you only take home 10s, then you are in another league... and maybe NOT accounting for reality and the variety of circumstances that may occur with guys... including sometimes banging 5s or 6s... which has happened with me more than once.

Personally, I agree with the concept of going natural - however, sometimes, there may be needs for supplements and/or drugs... and also, if a guy is in a pinch... it may be better to have tried whatever artificial measures before-hand, so he would know the effect(s) and have that tool available to him.... if needed...

But the point was cost, and $45 a pill seems quite expensive - even if the pill were split into 4, as some guys say has been effective. I think the USA is one of the most price-gouging countries when it comes to pharmaceuticals and supplements and even healthy alternatives such as "organic" foods.

Post: #216

Has anyone else had a problem paying by Visa through clearskypharmacy? I'm ordering from Australia by the way.

It's not processing the payment, and gives me a bunch of possible reasons why not, but not a specific reason. I've tried a couple of times to be sure I wasn't entering incorrect details, but to no avail.

I'm a bit wary about the "pay by voucher" option - sign up page seems dodgy.

Post: #217

(02-28-2014 09:16 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Has anyone else had a problem paying by Visa through clearskypharmacy? I'm ordering from Australia by the way.

It's not processing the payment, and gives me a bunch of possible reasons why not, but not a specific reason. I've tried a couple of times to be sure I wasn't entering incorrect details, but to no avail.

I'm a bit wary about the "pay by voucher" option - sign up page seems dodgy.

I had difficulties once. Just call them directly. One time the guy on the other end had to switch the payments systems because I was in the U.S. or something. They were very helpful when I called.

Post: #218

Has anyone from Canada found a site that delivers here? Clearsky and the others I've seen in this thread won't ship to Canada for some reason.

It isn't always a problem but drugs and boners don't mix for me. And I do a lot of drugs, so something's gotta give (hopefully not the drugs).

Post: #219

Thinking of taking a bus meds tour run up to Montreal and finding reliable Canadian Pharms that will ship to USA or just put them in an empty USA scrips bottle as they are unlikely to bust your balls over a fresh supply from your real USA Dr.

https://www.facebook.com/ClearSkyPharmacy

Looks like the clearsky web site down and not responding to inquiries... and no one answering on their FB page to why... so no online orders from me to them now. Googled them and some scam related articles but could just be other Indians in CA trying to screw the competition. Site is down that is for sure...

Post: #220

^^ I just ordered from them today...

Post: #221

So, in conclussion:

I have read that Viagra has the worse side effects but there is now a generic available so is the cheaper of the three.

Cialis vs Levitra? Which one is better for a night with a younger women? Planning to eat and drink so one that is alcohol and steak friendly.

Post: #222

(09-04-2014 08:37 AM)Gunner Wrote:  So, in conclussion:

I have read that Viagra has the worse side effects but there is now a generic available so is the cheaper of the three.

Cialis vs Levitra? Which one is better for a night with a younger women? Planning to eat and drink so one that is alcohol and steak friendly.

LEVITRA

Post: #223

I tried Libidor, which i purchased from CVS, which is a blend of various herbs mentioned in this thread. The directions state to take four pills an hour before having sex. I've tried it twice, with positive results, with the last time feeling a more pronounced effect. I'm not sure if its a placebo effect, so I'll keep on testing, he he. Anyone else tried it?

Post: #224

Just went to the Costco Pharmacy site and they are now charging like a G note plus for 30 days 20 mg supply - the 2.5mg (Daily Cialis) is $200 for 30 days so the free Cialis voucher below a good deal - still need a script from your MD and take that and the voucher to a local Pharmacy...

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 10 MG TABLET LIL $363.32 $720.81 $1,078.00

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 2.5 MG TABLET LIL $69.85 $134.25 $198.15

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 20 MG TABLET LIL $363.32 $720.81 $1,078.00

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 100 MG TABLET PFI $328.77 $654.92 $980.96

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 25 MG TABLET PFI $352.83 $707.89 $1,062.85

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 50 MG TABLET PFI $352.83 $707.89 $1,062.85

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
LEVITRA 10 MG TABLET GSK $327.35 $647.03 $966.71

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
LEVITRA 20 MG TABLET GSK $327.35 $647.03 $966.71

Tried a link to a online supply in the viagra, cialis levitra thread and it set off a Bitdefender on line warning fraud alert so a no go...

This did not set off an alert:

http://www.cialis.com/promise-free-trial.aspx

Details in the free PDF voucher are 30 tablets of 2.5mg daily or three free tablets of 10 or 20mg Cialis - 4 into 30 equals 7.5 10 mg doses - so the free 30 day 30 tab 2.5mg a better deal...

Keep it Deep - Diver out...

Post: #225

(09-14-2014 10:00 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Just went to the Costco Pharmacy site and they are now charging like a G note plus for 30 days 20 mg supply - the 2.5mg (Daily Cialis) is $200 for 30 days so the free Cialis voucher below a good deal - still need a script from your MD and take that and the voucher to a local Pharmacy...

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 10 MG TABLET LIL $363.32 $720.81 $1,078.00

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 2.5 MG TABLET LIL $69.85 $134.25 $198.15

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
CIALIS 20 MG TABLET LIL $363.32 $720.81 $1,078.00

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 100 MG TABLET PFI $328.77 $654.92 $980.96

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 25 MG TABLET PFI $352.83 $707.89 $1,062.85

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
VIAGRA 50 MG TABLET PFI $352.83 $707.89 $1,062.85

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
LEVITRA 10 MG TABLET GSK $327.35 $647.03 $966.71

Name Mfr. 10 tablets 20 tablets 30 tablets
LEVITRA 20 MG TABLET GSK $327.35 $647.03 $966.71

Tried a link to a online supply in the viagra, cialis levitra thread and it set off a Bitdefender on line warning fraud alert so a no go...

This did not set off an alert:

http://www.cialis.com/promise-free-trial.aspx

Details in the free PDF voucher are 30 tablets of 2.5mg daily or three free tablets of 10 or 20mg Cialis - 4 into 30 equals 7.5 10 mg doses - so the free 30 day 30 tab 2.5mg a better deal...

Keep it Deep - Diver out...

DD: Thanks for that SCARY rundown. Since I am such a cheapskate (or a person who is conscious of my budget) u seem to have provided sufficient information to me that I do NOT really want to attempt to try out these dick pills while in the US of A.

From my experiences with prescriptions and my medical insurance, some drugs under patent have outrageous over the counter prices, but if they are prescribed by a doctor and covered by insurance, the insurance can bring them down quite a lot.. depending on the insurance coverage. None patented drugs (that have generic competitors) can be very cheap; however, the patented drugs are able to charge an arm and a leg. With many drugs that are in the $200+ arena, my insurance will specifically bring them down to the $35 arena (and I imagine they are subsidizing the remainder of the price because my doctor has deemed the drugs to be medically necessary).

I suppose insurance coverage will also depend upon whether the drugs are considered "elective" or NOT? Probably, dick pills could fall under either category depending upon what a guy says to his doc.

I have never attempted to get doctor prescribed dick pills, and I have never told my doctor that I have any such erection problem(s).

I am reading this thread because I was considering attempting to try some of these dick pills when I am traveling in SEA.. and accordingly, from what I have been reading in this thread dick pills seem to be a lot cheaper in various overseas (non-western) locations as compared with the US of A.

Accordingly, my involvement,. so far, with dick pills remains at the contemplation level rather than at the trying it out level. AND your post, DD, reaffirms that I am NOT going to spend that much money for dick pills (at least NOT at this point in my life, under my current budgetary considerations).