Post: #26

(06-03-2013 01:01 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 12:15 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  Most women will want to be with a man from their own culture. You, and I, being foreigners will have to bring something to the table that they value more.

I mean I've bedded and dated many foreign women, probably more so than American women, so I must have that value they're looking for.

My impression after about a dozen trips to FSU is that American men are thought to be considerate and civilized, somewhat naive and not as stylish as Brits, but we are considered to lack horrific negatives like being violent, extreme drunkenness, and complete irresponsibility.

Post: #27

(06-03-2013 01:24 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 01:01 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 12:15 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  Most women will want to be with a man from their own culture. You, and I, being foreigners will have to bring something to the table that they value more.

I mean I've bedded and dated many foreign women, probably more so than American women, so I must have that value they're looking for.

My impression after about a dozen trips to FSU is that American men are thought to be considerate and civilized, somewhat naive and not as stylish as Brits, but we are considered to lack horrific negatives like being violent, extreme drunkenness, and complete irresponsibility.

Yep, and then when you do dress nice, that even puts you above the average American, so you aren't part of that stereo type and in turn probably impress girls even more. I got comments from a girl in Colombia about how I don't dress like most Americans. It made me feel pretty good.

Post: #28

(06-03-2013 12:49 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 08:51 PM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  I didn't travel for women. I traveled to the Netherlands every year for five years straight to train in Muay Thai. That gave me the experience and confidence to come to Asia.

Did you ever see the late Ramon Dekkers fight?

Yes, I've seen him fight in person several times, the last time at the Sportshall Zuid, I believe in Rotterdam or maybe Utrecht. He fought some Moroccan guy and won, if I remember correctly it was on points. He fought a guy named Hector Pena in Japan a while back and nearly broke his leg. He fought a buddy of mine, Jaroentong Kiatbangchong, and lost on points. He fought Cobon five times...he's fought everybody who was anybody and he's a true Muay Thai legend.

His father's gym, the Maeng Ho Breda, was where I trained. This was around 1990/1991 just after he first started making waves in Thailand. At the time there were some of the best Muay Thai fighters in the world training at that gym. I met Thom Harinck of the Chakuriki Gym and thought about going there but I wanted to train along side Dekkers.

His father and a buddy were the ones who got me to come to Thailand. Dekkers was always around, usually with a chick. Sometimes he was training, sometimes not. I rented an apartment from them that was next door to where he lived. Once in a while a group of us would go out on the town or drink wine with Czech girls...That's when I came to love the Netherlands and the beer Oranjeboom and also where I realized I wasn't going to make any money in Muay Thai. Fond memories though. If I were to move from Thailand, the Netherlands would be the place I would want to move. I love that country.

I bumped into Dekkers at the Ripley's Believe It Or Not in Pattaya once, around four years ago. I don't know if the Maeng Ho is still open but they made the Golden Glory Gym which has turned out quite a few top-notch fighters. Around two years ago I went to the Golden Glory Gym in Russia and trained a couple guys in boxing for an hour or so. That was great fun...

I was shocked to hear he died...He had some bad leg injuries and I'm not sure if he had clots in his legs or if he was on roids to help with the rehabilitation, or what the deal was but that is irrelevant. The world lost one helluva fighter and a good dude.

Post: #29

(06-03-2013 02:56 AM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 12:49 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 08:51 PM)anamericaninbangkok Wrote:  I didn't travel for women. I traveled to the Netherlands every year for five years straight to train in Muay Thai. That gave me the experience and confidence to come to Asia.

Did you ever see the late Ramon Dekkers fight?

Yes, I've seen him fight in person several times, the last time at the Sportshall Zuid, I believe in Rotterdam or maybe Utrecht. He fought some Moroccan guy and won, if I remember correctly it was on points. He fought a guy named Hector Pena in Japan a while back and nearly broke his leg. He fought a buddy of mine, Jaroentong Kiatbangchong, and lost on points. He fought Cobon five times...he's fought everybody who was anybody and he's a true Muay Thai legend.

His father's gym, the Maeng Ho Breda, was where I trained. This was around 1990/1991 just after he first started making waves in Thailand. At the time there were some of the best Muay Thai fighters in the world training at that gym. I met Thom Harinck of the Chakuriki Gym and thought about going there but I wanted to train along side Dekkers.

His father and a buddy were the ones who got me to come to Thailand. Dekkers was always around, usually with a chick. Sometimes he was training, sometimes not. I rented an apartment from them that was next door to where he lived. Once in a while a group of us would go out on the town or drink wine with Czech girls...That's when I came to love the Netherlands and the beer Oranjeboom and also where I realized I wasn't going to make any money in Muay Thai. Fond memories though. If I were to move from Thailand, the Netherlands would be the place I would want to move. I love that country.

I bumped into Dekkers at the Ripley's Believe It Or Not in Pattaya once, around four years ago. I don't know if the Maeng Ho is still open but they made the Golden Glory Gym which has turned out quite a few top-notch fighters. Around two years ago I went to the Golden Glory Gym in Russia and trained a couple guys in boxing for an hour or so. That was great fun...

I was shocked to hear he died...He had some bad leg injuries and I'm not sure if he had clots in his legs or if he was on roids to help with the rehabilitation, or what the deal was but that is irrelevant. The world lost one helluva fighter and a good dude.

I figured that you would be familiar with him since you trained in Holland and have been in Thailand so long, its pretty cool that you got to know him. I didn't know who Dekkers was until a friend of mine posted about his death on Facebook, that guy lived an interesting life and the sport lost a great athlete, he was a machine!

This video gets really good at the 0:50 mark

Post: #30

(06-02-2013 11:57 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I am not as old as those guys, but I actually like America.

As of right now, the place I would most want to be on Earth is here in America.

I could live in another country, I choose to live here. Believe it or not.

That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

However, if you are in the "right" place in "America", "America" can be sick. You can get all the things guys are traveling all over the globe for ie feminine girls in heels and dresses (in fact in many instances way more) and nice warm water, weather and ocean breezes to boot.

My main girl here cooks for me and does my laundry. Always in heels. And her family has ungodly money. Hell, I may even marry her and Cash out. (just playing)

That being said, has anyone married a super rich chick and Cashed out?

Do we have a thread on that?

It seems some of the guys who advocate game over money are the ones complaining.

Look at the seeking arrangement thread. Guys seem to be cleaning up.

It is cheaper to go overseas but that doesn't mean those 3rd world women want something different than American women. It just means you don't need to bring as much to the table as you would in America.

Yeah, it does take a certain amount of dough to operate, and that may be the difference.

(06-03-2013 12:04 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

I was doing some random quiz a while back and it asked the about the 20 largest cities in Latin America. I never even thought to put Miami down, but it was one of the answers.

I think sometimes I don't give the states enough credit. We have NY, Miami, California, and if you're into extreme sports and things like that, we have it all. Great dirt biking (All over the south west and more), surfing (Hawaii and Cali), Arguably the best mountains to snowboard in the world in the Rockies. America really is great. The women though usually aren't the type that most players would like to settle down with. In Miami it is a bit different. A good number of the girls there were raised by parents who were raised in Latin America, and many of the traditions are passed on, including being loyal and passionate to your man. Miami's a tough spot though. It's pretty much the creme de la creme of good looking people with money. There aren't many places that I've been to that can out do Miami. Colombia has better looking girls IMO (At least Medellin), but they are much friendlier and there isn't very high competition, so it makes it much easier than Miami, at least for me. But if you have money, game, and looks, Miami would possibly be a poosy paradise. I was missing the money aspect there, which is a pretty big blow when you live on the beach. I only knew a handful of successful players out there that didn't have money. One of them was most likely on par with Brad Pitts looks, the other was just a straight up G with 100% grade A game. Lots of people hated on him but I made it a point to congratulate him and give him the "Game recognized" comment every now and then. Dudes were just jealous and would always make an excuse as to why he pulled a certain girl. These cats are funny. Instead of trying to learn from him, they just hated, made excuses, and learned nothing.

InternationPlayboy - I bet if you return to Miami when you are older with more money, you will have a totally different take on the place.

I mean, I have been to Argentina, Colombia, Europe etc and I don't think anywhere I have been has more fly girls in High Heels and skirts walking down the street.

Even when girls come from other places to Miami, they wear high heels and skirts because they know that is the style there and they have to, to even be in "The Game".

Girls can't get away with not wearing high heels in South Beach. The crazy thing is girls there love high heels. They never complain about them like half the girls in California do.

Look at a lot of the EE threads that people post photos of girls "on the street", most of those girls are wearing flat shoes. Latvia had tons of girls with high heels, but f*ck that place, it is already freezing in September.

Not to mention that age gaps between men and women in Miami is totally acceptable. That is one of the main things that strikes me as a different between CA and Miami.

20 age gap is not uncommon in Miami. Provided the guy has his sh*t together. So I guess that is the catch.

You can't be short, ugly, broke and have terrible style and date 21 year old Models in Miami.

Maybe some places on earth are better for that, but I am pretty certain, they don't have world class nightlife, beaches, great weather, warm water and girls from all over the world.

(06-03-2013 12:50 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I'm with the other old guys, I disagree on this catastrophization of how bad Amerisluts are. For me it's just not that bad if I get to one of the many places where there are a ton of middle class chicks and I avoid the damn bars and "clubs".

Bar and clubs can be done, but they have to be done in the right cities in America. And when I say "right cities" there are maybe 2 or 3.

Restaurant Game is where it is at in America for older cats.

Post: #31

(06-03-2013 12:04 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  One of them was most likely on par with Brad Pitts looks, the other was just a straight up G with 100% grade A game. Lots of people hated on him but I made it a point to congratulate him and give him the "Game recognized" comment every now and then. Dudes were just jealous and would always make an excuse as to why he pulled a certain girl. These cats are funny. Instead of trying to learn from him, they just hated, made excuses, and learned nothing.

Break this guy down a little more.

What is his Game like?

What is his scene?

Post: #32

(06-03-2013 09:11 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 12:04 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

I was doing some random quiz a while back and it asked the about the 20 largest cities in Latin America. I never even thought to put Miami down, but it was one of the answers.

I think sometimes I don't give the states enough credit. We have NY, Miami, California, and if you're into extreme sports and things like that, we have it all. Great dirt biking (All over the south west and more), surfing (Hawaii and Cali), Arguably the best mountains to snowboard in the world in the Rockies. America really is great. The women though usually aren't the type that most players would like to settle down with. In Miami it is a bit different. A good number of the girls there were raised by parents who were raised in Latin America, and many of the traditions are passed on, including being loyal and passionate to your man. Miami's a tough spot though. It's pretty much the creme de la creme of good looking people with money. There aren't many places that I've been to that can out do Miami. Colombia has better looking girls IMO (At least Medellin), but they are much friendlier and there isn't very high competition, so it makes it much easier than Miami, at least for me. But if you have money, game, and looks, Miami would possibly be a poosy paradise. I was missing the money aspect there, which is a pretty big blow when you live on the beach. I only knew a handful of successful players out there that didn't have money. One of them was most likely on par with Brad Pitts looks, the other was just a straight up G with 100% grade A game. Lots of people hated on him but I made it a point to congratulate him and give him the "Game recognized" comment every now and then. Dudes were just jealous and would always make an excuse as to why he pulled a certain girl. These cats are funny. Instead of trying to learn from him, they just hated, made excuses, and learned nothing.

InternationPlayboy - I bet if you return to Miami when you are older with more money, you will have a totally different take on the place.

I mean, I have been to Argentina, Colombia, Europe etc and I don't think anywhere I have been has more fly girls in High Heels and skirts walking down the street.

Even when girls come from other places to Miami, they wear high heels and skirts because they know that is the style there and they have to, to even be in "The Game".

Girls can't get away with not wearing high heels in South Beach. The crazy thing is girls there love high heels. They never complain about them like half the girls in California do.

Look at a lot of the EE threads that people post photos of girls "on the street", most of those girls are wearing flat shoes. Latvia had tons of girls with high heels, but f*ck that place, it is already freezing in September.

Not to mention that age gaps between men and women in Miami is totally acceptable. That is one of the main things that strikes me as a different between CA and Miami.

20 age gap is not uncommon in Miami. Provided the guy has his sh*t together. So I guess that is the catch.

You can't be short, ugly, broke and have terrible style and date 21 year old Models in Miami.

Maybe some places on earth are better for that, but I am pretty certain, they don't have world class nightlife, beaches, great weather, warm water and girls from all over the world.

Yeah, I can definitely see that. I actually miss Miami to tell you the truth. I really started to get to like it towards the end of being there. I was getting real good connections and making dough, though not the kind of dough it takes to really ball in Miami. I was just working so much that it was hard to take a lot of advantage of the connects I had. I do think the place would be a blast in ten years when I see myself having a nice bank roll. Hell, it's a blast even when you don't have a large bank roll.

Post: #33

(06-03-2013 10:37 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 12:04 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  One of them was most likely on par with Brad Pitts looks, the other was just a straight up G with 100% grade A game. Lots of people hated on him but I made it a point to congratulate him and give him the "Game recognized" comment every now and then. Dudes were just jealous and would always make an excuse as to why he pulled a certain girl. These cats are funny. Instead of trying to learn from him, they just hated, made excuses, and learned nothing.

Break this guy down a little more.

What is his Game like?

What is his scene?

He was a smooth brotha from New York. He's 32 and grew up in Jamaica Queens. Used to live around 50 cents hood. He moved to Miami about ten years ago. Whenever we'd get a cute new waitress or a group of cute girls coming in, he'd go hard. He played real direct game. He would give them this crazy stare and tell them something that if I said it would sound corney, but for him it really worked. He also liked to grab them, get them close, and whisper something in their ears. When I first met him some of the stuff I would hear him say I thought sounded lame as hell, but then I realized that he was pulling high volumes of women. He would say corney, simple things like, "Damn girl that ass is lookin' sexy in those shorts, I wanna bite that ass." Dumb things like that. But it was the way he'd say it and the confidence he had in his body language and look, girls just fell for him. The kid didn't drink but he smoked herb. His style was good. A lot of times he went for a slightly hip hop style, but did it well. He didn't sag his pants bellow his ass or anything, but he'd wear Jordans and fitted caps a lot. He'd also run suit game when he was at more upscale events. The cat very rarely went out to the clubs. He was a concierge and had great hook ups and would always hook our guests up and sometimes even go out with them. He had a great gig going.

The second year I knew him, he stepped his game up to a whole other level. He started doing photo shoots for girls that wanted to be models, which is basically every girl in South Beach. The kid was great at getting shoots and then banging the girls afterwards. A lot of the shoots he would do free. He told me that if he offered for the girl to do a shoot, he'd do it free, but if the girl asked he would charge. So not only was he scoring fine South Beach pussy, but he was even making a little money on the side.

Post: #34

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Regarding WEDO and AmericaninBKK who claim American women aren't that bad:

You're old. You're over 40. Back in the 80's and 90's it was still possible to find lots of hot young American sluts that were still cool to kick it with. Had you been in your 20's in today's day and age, you'd also be complaining what a bunch of worthless terrible ugly sluts American women are.

Also, I find it hilarious that WEDO and AmericaninBKK both say American women aren't that bad yet they are traveling for women. If American women are so good why didn't you get married to one?

I'll evaluate your actions, not your words.

I am not as old as those guys, but I actually like America.

As of right now, the place I would most want to be on Earth is here in America.

I could live in another country, I choose to live here. Believe it or not.

That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

But that's just it. You left white America as the feminists took over and imposed draconian drinking laws, curfew times, smoking laws, all the while obesity rates exploded.

You saw the last of the "good ole days" of America. I also remember those days, but I was only a child when it happened. Even Boston was amazing in the 80's and 90's, and I can only remember seeing it through the eyes of a young boy.

Newbury st, for example, used to be endless cafe's where people would sit outside smoking and drinking coffee all day. Today all the cafe's are gone. Just high end clothing and furniture stores.

Clubs used to be everywhere. Today the dance club I learned dance floor game, the same club I met my Bboy mentor, the same club where people would hook up inside and then fuck outside in the alleyway, is now only used for birthday parties and bachelorette parties.

I know what those days were like G. I know what the good side of America used to be like, and I actively compare it to the world I'm in now when searching for girls. If I showed you a few pics of the girls I've banged I'm sure you'd agree.

But the amount of effort and time it takes to find hot Ameriskanks to kick it with has dwindled to unacceptable levels.

Furthermore, you state that your area needs mad cash - yet you have admitted in the past when you were an up and coming G, you had to resort to living in shitty places with low income. So your solutions for the up and coming G do not apply - we can't all go get a dope crib in Miami.

I'm sure in 10 years I may be able to do that. But right now it's not feasible nor desirable. I'd have to go get some 80 work-week job just to live in these places. Where's the fun in that?

Far better is to travel and stack chips, fuck unbelievably fly girls on the cheap while getting lots of travel experience. You can't be a playboy without travel experience anyways.

So sure, there might be a few good spots left in the USA, where if your income is over 100K per year you can still live like a king. NYC and Miami as far as I can tell. But how much longer do you think these places will even exist?

California was amazing in the 80's and 90's. Today you moved the fuck outta there.

Miami is good right now. But in 20 years? Probably will be just another washed up city. Whether or not the older guys on here want to admit it, America is a declining culture and it's not getting better.

Worldwidetraveler Wrote:It seems some of the guys who advocate game over money are the ones complaining.

Look at the seeking arrangement thread. Guys seem to be cleaning up.

Meanwhile there's a guy named Gift in Fisto's SEA thread who can't get laid after 6 weeks in Thailand despite spending 10x as much as the locals do. The dude has so much money he's blowing it on learning options trading, one of the riskiest type of trading in the world.

Still need game > money, doesn't matter where you go. In the SA thread the ones who are cleaning up are the same ones who could get laid without spending a dime on picking chicks up.

Also, if you saw the pics of some of the girls those guys were banging in the SA thread (I saw a few before they took them down, should have saved it to my harddrive) then you'd probably tell them to go overseas too.

Oh wait, you already do that, don't you?

Post: #35

(06-04-2013 03:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Meanwhile there's a guy named Gift in Fisto's SEA thread who can't get laid after 6 weeks in Thailand despite spending 10x as much as the locals do. The dude has so much money he's blowing it on learning options trading, one of the riskiest type of trading in the world.

Still need game > money, doesn't matter where you go. In the SA thread the ones who are cleaning up are the same ones who could get laid without spending a dime on picking chicks up.

Also, if you saw the pics of some of the girls those guys were banging in the SA thread (I saw a few before they took them down, should have saved it to my harddrive) then you'd probably tell them to go overseas too.

Oh wait, you already do that, don't you?

I never said game isn't necessary like some of you guys saying money isn't necessary and then bitch about the western world. People get into options trading without a ton of money so I don't know why you think he has a ton.

I saw only a few pictures on the SA thread. No faces, but the bodies looked good. Well, besides that old porn star that Hotweels was asking about. haha The big thing to take away is the lack of bitchiness.

You said Miami won't be good in 20 years. Well, countries and cities are constantly changing. Who knows what will be good in 20 years even in SEA or FSU hot spots. Do you plan on moving around the rest of your life? It will get old, just like you. Cash will offset you getting old. I am just trying to help a brudda out.

You're a smart guy but seem to think you have it all figured out while still being very young. Experience will correct that.

I don't tell guys to go overseas just for the women. That would be lame.

Post: #36

(06-04-2013 03:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Regarding WEDO and AmericaninBKK who claim American women aren't that bad:

You're old. You're over 40. Back in the 80's and 90's it was still possible to find lots of hot young American sluts that were still cool to kick it with. Had you been in your 20's in today's day and age, you'd also be complaining what a bunch of worthless terrible ugly sluts American women are.

Also, I find it hilarious that WEDO and AmericaninBKK both say American women aren't that bad yet they are traveling for women. If American women are so good why didn't you get married to one?

I'll evaluate your actions, not your words.

I am not as old as those guys, but I actually like America.

As of right now, the place I would most want to be on Earth is here in America.

I could live in another country, I choose to live here. Believe it or not.

That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

But that's just it. You left white America as the feminists took over and imposed draconian drinking laws, curfew times, smoking laws, all the while obesity rates exploded.

You saw the last of the "good ole days" of America. I also remember those days, but I was only a child when it happened. Even Boston was amazing in the 80's and 90's, and I can only remember seeing it through the eyes of a young boy.

Newbury st, for example, used to be endless cafe's where people would sit outside smoking and drinking coffee all day. Today all the cafe's are gone. Just high end clothing and furniture stores.

Clubs used to be everywhere. Today the dance club I learned dance floor game, the same club I met my Bboy mentor, the same club where people would hook up inside and then fuck outside in the alleyway, is now only used for birthday parties and bachelorette parties.

I know what those days were like G. I know what the good side of America used to be like, and I actively compare it to the world I'm in now when searching for girls. If I showed you a few pics of the girls I've banged I'm sure you'd agree.

But the amount of effort and time it takes to find hot Ameriskanks to kick it with has dwindled to unacceptable levels.

Furthermore, you state that your area needs mad cash - yet you have admitted in the past when you were an up and coming G, you had to resort to living in shitty places with low income. So your solutions for the up and coming G do not apply - we can't all go get a dope crib in Miami.

I'm sure in 10 years I may be able to do that. But right now it's not feasible nor desirable. I'd have to go get some 80 work-week job just to live in these places. Where's the fun in that?

Far better is to travel and stack chips, fuck unbelievably fly girls on the cheap while getting lots of travel experience. You can't be a playboy without travel experience anyways.

So sure, there might be a few good spots left in the USA, where if your income is over 100K per year you can still live like a king. NYC and Miami as far as I can tell. But how much longer do you think these places will even exist?

California was amazing in the 80's and 90's. Today you moved the fuck outta there.

Miami is good right now. But in 20 years? Probably will be just another washed up city. Whether or not the older guys on here want to admit it, America is a declining culture and it's not getting better.

Worldwidetraveler Wrote:It seems some of the guys who advocate game over money are the ones complaining.

Look at the seeking arrangement thread. Guys seem to be cleaning up.

Meanwhile there's a guy named Gift in Fisto's SEA thread who can't get laid after 6 weeks in Thailand despite spending 10x as much as the locals do. The dude has so much money he's blowing it on learning options trading, one of the riskiest type of trading in the world.

Still need game > money, doesn't matter where you go. In the SA thread the ones who are cleaning up are the same ones who could get laid without spending a dime on picking chicks up.

Also, if you saw the pics of some of the girls those guys were banging in the SA thread (I saw a few before they took them down, should have saved it to my harddrive) then you'd probably tell them to go overseas too.

Oh wait, you already do that, don't you?

The US has changed a lot, and IMO I agree it's largely for the worse at least as far as personal freedoms and social relations between the sexes go. The g*ddamm fattitude and obesity is just incredible....everytime I come home I'm just amazed at how fat Americans have become, and how unstylish they are compared to the ROW typically. And I hate to rag on American women but I find a lot of what has been said to be true. Sure there are some normal 'diamonds in the rough' who are great, but outside NYC and Miami, or certain parts of Cali and/or social circles in the South where women are a bit more feminine, you're screwed. And marriage is basically a non-starter...ANY man with decent coin runs an incredible risk in marrying an American woman. It's not just that they are completely entitled with a 'what's in it for me' gold-digger mentality replete with unrealistic expectations about life and 'happiness' - but more importatnly the aftershocks you get with the mental changes in women being on the pill, the weight gain, post-partum depression or whatever the hell else disease they get these days. And not to mention how women tend to overmedicate themselves into oblivion, taking you along in the process. A couple things go wrong and you're getting @ss raped in divorce court for eternity.

That said, I don't think places like NYC and Miami will change dramatically and will still be good for some time. The thing about those two cities is that they have a massive international presence that just drives the cultural and social scenes, and there's always an abundance of new blood coming in and/or tourists showing up for a week of partying which creates good flow for any player. And with all the foreign buyers propping up the housing market and bar & restaurant/club scene u benefit from that too.

Post: #37

I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

Post: #38

Women are like dogs. If you let them eat from the dinner table one night they will be back every single night.

Don't allow shit to happen and it won't. It's your way or the highway. If you date enough girls in America you will find one who will do what you say and put up with your 'shit'.

It's like anything else. Stop complaining and be like water.

Post: #39

Awesome and extremely insightful, informative read. Must be made mandatory to anyone looking to spend long time in Thailand. I had read it in the past but it was good to read it again.

(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

Post: #40

(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

That's a very good article, thanks for posting, I wouldn't marry a Thai girl either. I'm looking for a similar article on Colombian women but can't find one, maybe WEDO could write one?

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(06-05-2013 11:42 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

That's a very good article, thanks for posting, I wouldn't marry a Thai girl either. I'm looking for a similar article on Colombian women but can't find one, maybe WEDO could write one?

Have read that before - love Stickman's site. Haven't completely given up on thai women though. The guy raised some good points but as always they don't fit everyone.

A lot of them are poor marriage material but there are some solid ones too. If you like a real traditional, meek type of woman that doesn't drink or smoke, doesn't talk a lot, cooks and cleans as if by duty, likes to scrog 3 times a day whether you want to or not, etc. Which to me is pretty ideal as far as a long-term partner goes. The honesty thing can be a headache, but if you learn not to let little white lies bother you and just accept the increased harmony, it isn't the hugest deal.

Keep in mind that when we prowl the bars for easy pussy all the time we get a pretty shitty snapshot of Thai women - well, depending on what it is you want to see.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

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(06-06-2013 04:26 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(06-05-2013 11:42 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

That's a very good article, thanks for posting, I wouldn't marry a Thai girl either. I'm looking for a similar article on Colombian women but can't find one, maybe WEDO could write one?

Have read that before - love Stickman's site. Haven't completely given up on thai women though. The guy raised some good points but as always they don't fit everyone.

A lot of them are poor marriage material but there are some solid ones too. If you like a real traditional, meek type of woman that doesn't drink or smoke, doesn't talk a lot, cooks and cleans as if by duty, likes to scrog 3 times a day whether you want to or not, etc. Which to me is pretty ideal as far as a long-term partner goes. The honesty thing can be a headache, but if you learn not to let little white lies bother you and just accept the increased harmony, it isn't the hugest deal.

Keep in mind that when we prowl the bars for easy pussy all the time we get a pretty shitty snapshot of Thai women - well, depending on what it is you want to see.

Yeah, he himself does point out several times during his essay that he had met at least a few Thai women whom he was interested in marriage-wise but who turned him down (either for marriage or mere dating).

Whether that just makes them above his class, or sluts who chose the carousel instead of marrying him when he was interested, I can't say. I am only speculating here because I've never been to Thailand but, while I would view most Western women through the latter lens, I think I'd be more permissive for most Thai women (provided that they're really as warm as described).

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Interesting article, but a lot of the points the writer makes about Thai women actually apply to all women. For example, he points out the fact that Thai women only marry up, not down (hypergamy), and the fact that once married and secure, their children are more important to them than their husbands. Both of these I regard as basic biological truths.

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(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

From that article:

Quote:I lived in Thailand for over 4 years before I first had sex with a Thai, ...

Hm... why would you listen to his comments at all?

Post: #45

(06-02-2013 11:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Regarding WEDO and AmericaninBKK who claim American women aren't that bad:

You're old. You're over 40. Back in the 80's and 90's it was still possible to find lots of hot young American sluts that were still cool to kick it with. Had you been in your 20's in today's day and age, you'd also be complaining what a bunch of worthless terrible ugly sluts American women are.

Also, I find it hilarious that WEDO and AmericaninBKK both say American women aren't that bad yet they are traveling for women. If American women are so good why didn't you get married to one?

I'll evaluate your actions, not your words.

I am not as old as those guys, but I actually like America.

As of right now, the place I would most want to be on Earth is here in America.

I could live in another country, I choose to live here. Believe it or not.

That being said, many people don't considered the city I am in to be a part of America at all, so maybe you do have a point.

However, if you are in the "right" place in "America", "America" can be sick. You can get all the things guys are traveling all over the globe for ie feminine girls in heels and dresses (in fact in many instances way more) and nice warm water, weather and ocean breezes to boot.

My main girl here cooks for me and does my laundry. Always in heels. And her family has ungodly money. Hell, I may even marry her and Cash out. (just playing)

That being said, has anyone married a super rich chick and Cashed out?

Do we have a thread on that?

Many men here wave married chick and been out of their cash. "Cashing out" was a beautiful thing back when it existed. It used to be called "Locking her down". Except that modern marrriage law no longer "locks down" women, only men. All the risks, none of the rewards.

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Stickman is the boss! I read his Sunday article every single week and I suggest anyone looking to get an insight into Thailand and life in BKK does too.

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(06-06-2013 09:51 AM)ThailandRockstar Wrote:  Stickman is the boss! I read his Sunday article every single week and I suggest anyone looking to get an insight into Thailand and life in BKK does too.

Never read his site much. I was under the impression it was mostly about prostitutes/bar scene and aimed at sexpats?

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(06-06-2013 09:58 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 09:51 AM)ThailandRockstar Wrote:  Stickman is the boss! I read his Sunday article every single week and I suggest anyone looking to get an insight into Thailand and life in BKK does too.

Never read his site much. I was under the impression it was mostly about prostitutes/bar scene and aimed at sexpats?

No, not really. Stickman is required reading for any guy in Thailand, in my opinion; a lot of truth dropped there.

Start with the Green Star Reader Submissions: http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanGr...ssions.htm

EDIT: As with anything, all contributions need to be taken with a grain of salt, but a lot of thought-provoking stuff.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

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(06-06-2013 06:18 AM)Northern Wrote:  

(06-05-2013 09:06 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I found this in the comments below the article, it's a long read but very interesting and well thought-out:

Why I never married a Thai

From that article:

Quote:I lived in Thailand for over 4 years before I first had sex with a Thai, ...

Hm... why would you listen to his comments at all?

The guy sounds like an arrogant pseudo intellectual tool. He figured out the Thai girl game, and then acts like Western women are so superior...becuase they can still hustle him

"My devotion to my wife is above EVERYTHING else, the kids come second, and then maybe OUR parents, etc. If I can’t have a similar commitment, I want her to at least be willing place me just after the kids. If my wife were Thai, she also better be able to espouse her love to me properly."

He also has a laundry list of justification of why he is intellectually superior to a Thai with a PhD from an elite Western University (and is actually very good in his field). Sounds like a whiny clown IMO.

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(06-06-2013 09:58 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Never read his site much. I was under the impression it was mostly about prostitutes/bar scene and aimed at sexpats?

Not at all, it's mostly about life in BKK and until recently he wasn't really writing much about girls. He got a lot of flack for introducing the girl of the week photo with some people saying it was "cheapening" his weekly article.

Stick is a great writer, very clued up, knows a lot about Thai women and life in Thailand. He's written a lot in the past about going out to off the beaten track clubs in BKK far away from the tourist areas and meeting girls etc.

I recommend you start reading.