Post: #1276

JUst had my first experience of a girl asking me for money before I fuck her . She was naked , telling me how she was attracted to me ,I start taking my pants off, she starts talking about where's my money first . I got up and left , was at her place . Atleast I got to fingerfuck a hot blonde and have some fun on a Sunday night .

Post: #1277

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LOL

You should say you don't dig prostitutes before leaving.

Post: #1278

(09-17-2015 09:17 PM)brob Wrote:  Finally read every damn post in this thread. Curiosity got the best of me and signed up for SA somewhere around page 10.

First SA bang was last night although she was a bit of a disappointment from her pics. Met her at my go to bar and just ran my standard first date game.

I went against the conventional wisdom of the hotel and took a gamble bringing her to my place since it's closeby the bars. I live in an apartment building that is gated and locked down like fort knox so I figured skipping out on the $150ish for a hotel was worth the risk.

Finding SA was like stumbling into another dimension. A world where up is down and down is up. The man is the chooser and the hot girls are the pursuers. I always knew, but never fully realized what money and status (or the illusion of money and status) can do for a man.

I've borrowed a ton of concepts and lines from this thread so thanks to all. I use the overall mentality discussed by Hotwheels, EBIF, and MrXY in the early pages of the thread. I've used the opener cited by Bone Daddy, then just a pretty basic "tell me about yourself" qualifier. Then I tell them that "You may have some potential. Text me. 555-555-5555" Credit to swuglyfe for the 'potential' bit.

Then once I have the number I get a few more pics from them and suggest we get to know each other over drinks. If they start asking arrangement questions I just tell them, "I've been meeting a few girls for drinks so I can pick one for the arrangement." (of course there is no arrangement, not doing p4p)

This little statement easily weeds out the pro SBs who expect to be paid just to go on a date. I'm unflinchingly rigid with my terms if they object to being a contestant. Most of the girls will buy in with no objections. Of course you do come across the pros who will turn your stomach with their entitlement frames.

I'm in my 20s so I made up a somewhat believable backstory about being childhood friends with the CEO of a social media site. I say that I own a small percentage of the company worth a couple million.

My profile pic has my face blurred out, wearing a shirt and tie. They can't see it, but I'm wearing gym shorts in the pic.

Getting on Tinder today was like staying at the motel 6 after you've been living at the W

What is the opener cited by Bone Daddy? I couldn't find it.

Post: #1279

SA just had their Sugar Baby of the Year competition. Thought people here might be interested, because they claim these bitches are available on SA. I don't SA so I cannot tell.

Quote:The controversial dating site Seeking Arrangements, which pairs wealthy older men with young women looking for the finer things in life, has launched its first ever calendar contest where 12 real-life sugar babies compete for the coveted title of Sugar Baby of the Year and the chance to be featured on the calendar’s cover.

The contestants range in age from 19 to 25, and while they were more than happy to flaunt their toned bodies in tiny bikinis for the dating site's 2016 calendar, many insist that voters should choose them for the cover because of their fantastic personalities.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...ition.html

Post: #1280

I've been trying this out for the last two weeks and I've gotten 2 free new bangs...

Thoughts...
Quality is the best on any dating site
I'm in my 20s so I moved my age to the low 30s. Many girls have called me out on it but I tell them I have good genes lol.
Many girls just want normal relationships or just want a good fuck from a non broke dude.
Some girls do bring up money being transferred before even meeting but those are the pros. Just next em and move on.
I've got a great pic of me at the beach with just my body in plain view (so my face isn't seen to randoms)
A good profile sets you apart unlike in most sites.
Seems like a lot of girls get hit on my old and decrepit rich dudes. Bad game has made them soft for players like us.

Post: #1281

It seems most or all the hotties have gone to SA, leaving the fatties and uglies on tinder, OKC, etc. It all makes sense now.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to register on SA with a prepaid card... they do want a real credit card so I might just bite the bullet and do that.

Post: #1282

(10-18-2015 08:59 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  I've been trying this out for the last two weeks and I've gotten 2 free new bangs...

Thoughts...
Quality is the best on any dating site
I'm in my 20s so I moved my age to the low 30s. Many girls have called me out on it but I tell them I have good genes lol.
Many girls just want normal relationships or just want a good fuck from a non broke dude.
Some girls do bring up money being transferred before even meeting but those are the pros. Just next em and move on.
I've got a great pic of me at the beach with just my body in plain view (so my face isn't seen to randoms)
A good profile sets you apart unlike in most sites.
Seems like a lot of girls get hit on my old and decrepit rich dudes. Bad game has made them soft for players like us.

My results are lke yours . I can't believe this stunning 25 year old girl , I'm meeting up with next week . I would of never been able to get her number on tinder with 1000 guys trying to get with it .

Post: #1283

(10-18-2015 09:38 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  It seems most or all the hotties have gone to SA, leaving the fatties and uglies on tinder, OKC, etc. It all makes sense now.

Yes, it does seem that way, and it is not surprising at all. This is basically legal prostitution without, in the mind of a hamster anyway, the social stigma of being a whore. She is providing a service for a fee to a 'gentleman', at least in her mind anyway.

Not only that, but the reason the quality is higher than on other sites is because looks are the main deciding factor; no one, rich or not is going to splurge big money on a neon haired fat freak on tinder who wants you to scream 'All men are pigs' as you nail her from behind.

All that is going to be left on Tinder and whatnot are the tumblr freaks. But given the success of the SA platform, expect strong competition to be coming out soon. Especially from websites advertising eastern european women.

Post: #1284

Yes there is an abundance of women on this thing, a rather frightening reflection of the modern woman. I have had some really good bangs from this, but at the same time also met some of the most disgusting women on planet Earth. One girl I met told me she's only meeting up with me because she had an argument with her boyfriend then went on to talk about how one guy is paying her 5,000 dollars a month for meeting her 4 times. No sex, she's never even kissed him. Another guy is paying her half that, again no sex. Then she has around three other dates a week where she gets paid 150 dollars usually for guys to take her out to dinner, again no sex. She uses (and I mean wastes) their money going shopping. To top that off she's a spoilt child from her parents.

This site must be filled with some of the biggest betas on the planet. Why in the world would a guy pay a woman 5,000 dollars a month without even sex, it is like a divorce settlement without a fucking divorce.

Post: #1285

(09-21-2015 07:42 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Send them photos of the pad and the view after number closing. Get them to come straight over for a drink. If there is no view, just send them photos of the condo.

Lie about your age, say that you are 30. If they say "you sound and look young" tell them you eat healthy and exercise.

Has anyone ever tried sending girls a picture of their view and what were the results? I recently moved into a new apartment in NYC that happens to have a crazy nice view, so I'll definitely try this out and see how it works. In general I try to be modest but I think I need to stop that since my new apartment is something worth bragging about.

I joined SA earlier this week. I have a date tomorrow with a 19 year old Russian girl and a date with a 24 year old on Thursday. One of these days I'll get to reading this entire thread to get ideas.

So far with SA I've been getting mixed replies. Some girls are VERY eager to speak with me and meet up in person, and others get pissed when I tell them I won't pay to hang out with them (also my profile explicitly states that I will not pay any money). I'll report back on successes with SA as I get more experience with it.

Post: #1286

(10-20-2015 05:24 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  Yes there is an abundance of women on this thing, a rather frightening reflection of the modern woman. I have had some really good bangs from this, but at the same time also met some of the most disgusting women on planet Earth. One girl I met told me she's only meeting up with me because she had an argument with her boyfriend then went on to talk about how one guy is paying her 5,000 dollars a month for meeting her 4 times. No sex, she's never even kissed him. Another guy is paying her half that, again no sex. Then she has around three other dates a week where she gets paid 150 dollars usually for guys to take her out to dinner, again no sex. She uses (and I mean wastes) their money going shopping. To top that off she's a spoilt child from her parents.

This site must be filled with some of the biggest betas on the planet. Why in the world would a guy pay a woman 5,000 dollars a month without even sex, it is like a divorce settlement without a fucking divorce.

I read something about that some time ago. Actually read something similar multiple times; apaprently some guys just pay women for company or to talk to. Or, sometimes some men want a young attractive woman to be on their arm when they go out for important events/dinners. It can boost their prestige among their peers. Obviously these people are quite rich to be able to afford spending money like this.

I have to say though, it is also very possible these girls are flat out lying out of their teeth. By saying they are being paid 5 grand just for their company, they boost their own net worth to other prospective clients (you for example) and stroke their own ego. Girls can be dumb, but many are not stupid in a business sense, including the ones out to make money. They know how to market themselves.

Did you stop to consider for instance, why a chick who is making 5 grand a month for only 4 platonic dates would come meet you for sex? I doubt you offered her anything close to that.

Post: #1287

(10-22-2015 11:39 AM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 05:24 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  Yes there is an abundance of women on this thing, a rather frightening reflection of the modern woman. I have had some really good bangs from this, but at the same time also met some of the most disgusting women on planet Earth. One girl I met told me she's only meeting up with me because she had an argument with her boyfriend then went on to talk about how one guy is paying her 5,000 dollars a month for meeting her 4 times. No sex, she's never even kissed him. Another guy is paying her half that, again no sex. Then she has around three other dates a week where she gets paid 150 dollars usually for guys to take her out to dinner, again no sex. She uses (and I mean wastes) their money going shopping. To top that off she's a spoilt child from her parents.

This site must be filled with some of the biggest betas on the planet. Why in the world would a guy pay a woman 5,000 dollars a month without even sex, it is like a divorce settlement without a fucking divorce.

I read something about that some time ago. Actually read something similar multiple times; apaprently some guys just pay women for company or to talk to. Or, sometimes some men want a young attractive woman to be on their arm when they go out for important events/dinners. It can boost their prestige among their peers. Obviously these people are quite rich to be able to afford spending money like this.

I have to say though, it is also very possible these girls are flat out lying out of their teeth. By saying they are being paid 5 grand just for their company, they boost their own net worth to other prospective clients (you for example) and stroke their own ego. Girls can be dumb, but many are not stupid in a business sense, including the ones out to make money. They know how to market themselves.

Did you stop to consider for instance, why a chick who is making 5 grand a month for only 4 platonic dates would come meet you for sex? I doubt you offered her anything close to that.

They could well be making half this shite up, it's hard to tell especially when they are lying to themselves. She probably had no clients that night and was bored and sort of intrigued after I flaked on her. I regularly flake on girls on this site. It's outside of my control of control of course get dragged into client meetings or my battery runs out as I arrive late to the date.

Post: #1288

Got an account about a month ago and a couple quick easy bangs 2 (27, 23) weeks in. Nabbed a third (21yr old) the following week who was actually really cool, said she wasn't into the money thing when we talked on the phone. Had great fun, banged, then had trouble getting her out on a date again until I pulled a swift hamster trick yesterday and met up late night. Took her for a drink, and then back to my place. But she would not bang this time.

While she was still sleeping in the morning, I went to my kitchen to discover her phone on my charger- unlocked. 12 new texts before 9 in the morning. One douche who was like "guess you're sleeping late huh".
I moved on to yesterday's texts. There were guys all along the spectrum, at least 15 she was texting with that day- one guy offering $600 per date for once a week, $350 for another, one she was trying to get 1k who would only do $500, a guy who stiffed her with a business PayPal lie thing, several dudes who were trying to get her out on a 2nd date (arrangements undetermined), couple dirty talkers, couple long distance 'coming into town types', a few who flaked on her cause of work/business trip stuff, a guy helping her with a potential job/career thing, standard issue beta orbiters, and even a conversation with a girlfriend about some poor schlub non Internet orbiter friend who spent his birthday with her in Central Park and wanted to be her boyfriend.

That was one day worth of dudes. I can't even imagine the kind of numbers game this chick is playing. I get a ton of responses and certainly more dates on this thing than any other site I've messed with, but chicks are still flaky as fuck, and I play the numbers game because I have to. This girl is doing it because she can.
While she was getting dressed the other week after the bang I remember her saying "so you're like not into the whole arrangement thing...right?"
"No, I think that's kinda gross and I'd never pay a girl. Would you do that?" I fired back.
"Weeeellllllll, if some guy was gonna pay me...I guess..."

With that, I had a pretty good idea of what the fuck was going on.
Still, knowing the rabbit hole is there doesn't prepare you for the trip itself.

Post: #1289

Reading this thread reminded me of this.


   

Post: #1290

Been thinking of getting on this site for a while, but recent life events have sort of gotten me off the fence: i.e. I make much more money that I used to but I had to move from LA to a 3rd tier city 80 miles inland. I also work 80-90 hours a week and only have Sundays off. I'm exhausted after getting home from work, so I really want to find girls who will work around my schedule with a minimum of nonsense. My previous game style was based on my international travel and laid-back job which allowed me to go on lots of dates to places I locked down in LA during the week and on weekends. Completely different situation now.

Any tips/strategies from members on how to get started on the site, especially in more out-of-the-way areas? Luckily, there are a decent amount of colleges in the area, so I'm hoping that I'll be able to leverage that.

Post: #1291

Booshala, I would suggest for anyone that is wealthy to avoid these kinds of websites. If you have above average game and normal assets, these websites seem very good to hookup with semi-hookers for free. If you actually have money that normally means your image is important for your job/work/life. I know a married guy that was outed by one of his sugar babies. He's not having any fun.

Post: #1292

(10-23-2015 11:44 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  Booshala, I would suggest for anyone that is wealthy to avoid these kinds of websites. If you have above average game and normal assets, these websites seem very good to hookup with semi-hookers for free. If you actually have money that normally means your image is important for your job/work/life. I know a married guy that was outed by one of his sugar babies. He's not having any fun.

If you are married or in a serious LTR (Living together) and gaming side pieces SA or Tinder or Match or OKCupid or POF etc - does not matter there is always the strong chance of being outed especially considering 40% of adult women are medicated... So not an SA only issue.

I would say about 20% of the ladies are hard core lazy assed beezie Pros only interested in Phux for Bux... however the College Demo is unique in about 70% 18 to 22 looking for some unique upscale 50 Shades type life experiences with older men (Me) - yeah I have had the Car Show Demo Girl "Models" brag about some old wrinkle neck trout paying her $6K a month for a year and a half until he nexted her for someone with more upscale appeal and less annoying - with an entitlement factor of 100 on a scale of 1 to 10 - just next them. For $6K a month this one was definitely banging P4P - not my type. The Pro Hos actually self filter themselves quite quickly.

I never say I will not pay for an arrangement - I flip the script and say I am looking for a muse/wing women willing to work towards common goals and a wonderful life... weeds out the useless sea anchors from the spinnakers - the ones who hold you back and piss away your money from those that help lift you aloft and achieve common goals - meaning your Alpha goals the you lead her along to enjoy the journey with you.

I put my profile settings into Hide Profile On when I am too busy to entertain (My phone has been ringing off the hook for Senior Cyber Security gigs on CareerBuilder and Monster etc) so have to make hay when the sun shines and working some interesting web projects.

And even with my account in periodic Hide Profile mode I can still search for my preferred 18 to 24 Model Muse Types without the P4P pros.

Actually lots new unviewed model grade and sexy muses lately...

Post: #1293

(10-22-2015 11:39 AM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 05:24 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  Yes there is an abundance of women on this thing, a rather frightening reflection of the modern woman. I have had some really good bangs from this, but at the same time also met some of the most disgusting women on planet Earth. One girl I met told me she's only meeting up with me because she had an argument with her boyfriend then went on to talk about how one guy is paying her 5,000 dollars a month for meeting her 4 times. No sex, she's never even kissed him. Another guy is paying her half that, again no sex. Then she has around three other dates a week where she gets paid 150 dollars usually for guys to take her out to dinner, again no sex. She uses (and I mean wastes) their money going shopping. To top that off she's a spoilt child from her parents.

This site must be filled with some of the biggest betas on the planet. Why in the world would a guy pay a woman 5,000 dollars a month without even sex, it is like a divorce settlement without a fucking divorce.

I read something about that some time ago. Actually read something similar multiple times; apaprently some guys just pay women for company or to talk to. Or, sometimes some men want a young attractive woman to be on their arm when they go out for important events/dinners. It can boost their prestige among their peers. Obviously these people are quite rich to be able to afford spending money like this.

I have to say though, it is also very possible these girls are flat out lying out of their teeth. By saying they are being paid 5 grand just for their company, they boost their own net worth to other prospective clients (you for example) and stroke their own ego. Girls can be dumb, but many are not stupid in a business sense, including the ones out to make money. They know how to market themselves.

Did you stop to consider for instance, why a chick who is making 5 grand a month for only 4 platonic dates would come meet you for sex? I doubt you offered her anything close to that.

Most these guys will pay for a month then try and get a real relationship with her. If you're making 250 K + a year , it;s not a big deal dropping 2 k on a hot 19 year old for a month of fucking . But most guys leave . Girls brag to me about how they got 5 to 8 K a month from SD's then I laugh and ask them why they left ?

Post: #1294

Honestly I'd just pay for a whore before I'd do this seeking arrangement thing. It would probably be cheaper, plus I don't have to play boyfriend while paying, at least that way it's all about me and on my terms. This seems like a horrible arrangement, I have to be your boyfriend and pay you, no thanks.

Also, though I've seen "college girls" on Dr. Phil and shit like that who are on these sites more often I would imagine the same chicks on seeking arrangements also have a profile on backpage doing bodyrubs or escorting as well and probably for a lot less money than a sugar daddy is giving them.

Post: #1295

(10-23-2015 02:44 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  Honestly I'd just pay for a whore before I'd do this seeking arrangement thing. It would probably be cheaper, plus I don't have to play boyfriend while paying, at least that way it's all about me and on my terms. This seems like a horrible arrangement, I have to be your boyfriend and pay you, no thanks.

Also, though I've seen "college girls" on Dr. Phil and shit like that who are on these sites more often I would imagine the same chicks on seeking arrangements also have a profile on backpage doing bodyrubs or escorting as well and probably for a lot less money than a sugar daddy is giving them.

That's the strange thing with this. In most of Europe for example you can get a professional escort (legally) who would do everything imaginable for 200-300 dollars and they are experts in it. Yet the losers on these site pay 500 dollars for an amateur girl to just turn up to dinner. It doesn't matter if you're making 250k a year, you'd be a fucking idiot spending 2k a month on these retards regardless.

The 21 year old I met who said she was making over 5k a month from this thing and considered it her job was not was not even that attractive, yes she's maybe a 7 to 8 but these are not playboy models you are paying to be seen with. She told me that she couldn't believe it either and thinks her paying customers are idiots.

Post: #1296

A lot of hot new girls have popped up recently in my area. The summer season is over here at the beach and girls who make money from waitressing, bartending etc are entering their slump season and need a side gig to make up the difference. About time for me to get back on the site.

Post: #1297

There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.

Post: #1298

(10-24-2015 06:58 PM)cosworth Wrote:  There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.

So multi-millionaire hot girls are on this website looking to hook up with non-wealthy guys? Or are they hoping to find someone at their same level of wealth or more?

Post: #1299

(10-24-2015 07:19 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 06:58 PM)cosworth Wrote:  There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.

So multi-millionaire hot girls are on this website looking to hook up with non-wealthy guys? Or are they hoping to find someone at their same level of wealth or more?

Here there are girls from wealthy-ish families that can't find a guy to provide them with the same standard of living that Daddy did.

They're using the site to find a boyfriend.

Post: #1300

(10-24-2015 07:33 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 07:19 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 06:58 PM)cosworth Wrote:  There really is all sorts on this website .. Some girls definitely don't need the money. One girl I've been seeing comes from a wealthy family and travels everywhere in business or first. Had a date with another girl and we got talking about aviation. She casually mentioned her parents own a private jet .. Or a small 7 seat plane with engines at the back up high ! Its basically a Lear Jet or Citation I'm guessing.

So multi-millionaire hot girls are on this website looking to hook up with non-wealthy guys? Or are they hoping to find someone at their same level of wealth or more?

Here there are girls from wealthy-ish families that can't find a guy to provide them with the same standard of living that Daddy did.

They're using the site to find a boyfriend.

I've never been on the website. My impression was it was filled with escorts and gold diggers mostly. You learn something new everyday. If a girls parents own a 7 seat private jet they are more than wealthy-ish. That would put them at very high 8 figures or more normally.

If a wealthy(ish) girl is looking for a boyfriend to date up, I think she'd have a hard time. I would think the wealthy guys on the website would rather avoid the wealthy women and just go for the regular attractive ones. A spoiled wealthy girl can be a pain in the ass if she knows you have money.