Post: #26

Did I buy an advanced copy or something? I got it last Sunday and read it, definitely recommend it. Not a long read but I see now why Roosh wrote it. He came back home, everything here is the same or getting worse while his goals and what he wants out of life have evolved and solidified.

I liked reading about the meetup and just the overall perspective of someone coming back to America and seeing how fucked up it is and how he can't wait to get the fuck out of here. At 33 things are changing for Roosh, he's evolving and it's something that was sort of discussed in another thread like six months ago. Since then things are really happening: Bang series retired, manosphere blowing up, Roosh blowing up (Wikipedia, the Ukraine tv show, The 9 Ugliest Feminists, Why Toronto Sucks, and now this Adria Whatever-the fuck-her-name-is backlash against out of control feminism).

Something is in the air right now, it seems like guys are waking up to the reality that women have had our balls in a vice at the societal level for the last forty years and they're sick of all the hypocritical bullshit.

Why Can't I Leave A Smiley Face kinda feels like a pause for reflection, a gathering of Roosh's thoughts and ideas and a step forward, not into a new direction but into bigger shoes. It's not even three full months into 2013 and Roosh has come tearing out of the gate.

Post: #27

(03-23-2013 03:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  There will be a package of Dead Bat, Smiley Face, and 30 Bangs for $8 on launch weekend.

When is that exactly cap'n?

Post: #28

The book is available on Amazon.

Official launch is Friday morning.

Post: #29

Just bought it and enjoyed it. A quick read and although the leitmotiv is kinda sad, the book is pretty funny. I've read Dead Bat and Bang and the first thing I noted was that your writing got better, more pointed. Second thing I noticed is that it didnt took long for the angry Roosh to take over, you know, the one hate fucking girls and I could completely understand why.
I've never been to the US, but since the situation in Germany apparently is not that different, the book resonated strongly with me. While German girls tend not to be too hostile and openly aggressive, you encounter the same attitude problems here. Luckily, Poland is nearby and since German culture is way more secluded than the American seems to be, the immigrants dont get corrupted too quickly. I'm 30 years old and had many girls in my life, but only 1 gf was 100% German, coincidence?

Post: #30

$8 special in effect? I feel like a little Roosh storytime for next weekend.

Post: #31

Yes, please. Would love to read and post a review.

Post: #32

Cheers to Sourcecode for letting me know it was out last week. I bought it off Amazon and read it in one sitting. To be brief, I can't think of any better way to spend $3. Buy it.

P.S: I think it's worth noting that on the bright side, Roosh said that American girls haven't gotten any fatter or less attractive (physically, at least) than they were when he left.

Post: #33

This book does a good job explaining why D.C. sucks, and consequently why Roosh travels. Many travelers experience culture shock returning to the U.S. Roosh illustrates this contrast by leaving "Petra", a beautiful, thin, affectionate woman in Europe. She has feelings for him. Although he likes her, she can be replaced. Like his previous girlfriends, he is not ready to settle down and alter his life for her.

In contrast to foreigners, women in D.C. bars are mediocre, obnoxious, entitled, and frequently fat. Roosh got smacked twice for no reason by random, drunk women! More commonly, frumpy women expect to be entertained by witty, charming men. Then they offer phone numbers, expecting to be wined and dined. Roosh gravitated to foreign women in D.C. bars.

Poor logistics killed several opportunities. When he did find a partner with a nearby apartment, she didn't want him to spend the night. That's what D.C. offered: cold one-night-stands, or mediocre women who proffer little in the way of conversation, wit, cooking, or experience.

Ultimately D.C. and the U.S. are unappealing to Roosh. Most of his friends and family just plod though dull lives. It took him only a few minutes to catch up and realized nothing has changed. His relations with family and growing more distant and strained. I don't expect him to return soon.

Post: #34

(03-27-2013 05:50 PM)Divorco Wrote:  In contrast to foreigners, women in D.C. bars are mediocre, obnoxious, entitled, and frequently fat. Roosh got smacked twice for no reason by random, drunk women! More commonly, frumpy women expect to be entertained by witty, charming men. Then they offer phone numbers, expecting to be wined and dined.

In December 2011, I went to Brazil for about 16 days having a blast especially with the women down there. The bar was set so high that I came home telling myself that I couldn't settle down with an American woman in the new year.

In May 2012, I went to Poland for 2 weeks and my feelings were emphasized even more so after that trip ended. I met up with a friend 2 weeks after arriving back out in Dallas as I ended up having one of the most hostile nights I could imagine being around douches and mediocre females with the highest of bitch shields.

A few weeks ago, was out with a girl and I got hit up by groups of fat chicks that didn't get the message as they thought they could "steal me" away from a gal who was much more attractive then they were. One even tried dancing with me as I got punched after turning my head on her.

(03-27-2013 05:50 PM)Divorco Wrote:  Roosh gravitated to foreign women in D.C. bars.

I was just about to make this observation too. I've been more well traveled since 2009 than years preceding that as well (not as extensively as Roosh of course), but the biggest change with each trip that goes on is that you just become...less capable of relating to women in your country. That was one of the most visible characteristics I noticed in Roosh's tendencies while he was out socializing with friends.

Even with very attractive local women, you can game them with a half-assed effort and let them go because you tell yourself "meh they can easily be replaced" while moving on if they're not doing the trick first impression wise. It is as if they're not worth wasting minutes on during a conversation.

"Why Can't I Leave a Smiley Face" portrays a guy who's spent the majority of his life living overseas in the past 5 years trying to make a concerted effort to get acclimated with being at home again. Even though back in DC on a temporary basis, he is greeted with gratuitous hostility from local scene-sters and unexpected bitterness from the people he was once closest to being family.

Though past the DC scene altogether, it appears as if Roosh at least arrived back home wanting to make his hometown a comfortable sanctuary from the inevitable grind of travel yet the dynamics of his environment prevented him from doing even that at this stage in life.

Post: #35

Just read the book this morning. Smiley Face consists of Roosh's observations during his one month visit to DC after nearly two years spent in Europe. The book makes many comparisons between American girls (in DC) and the girls he met in Europe. Roosh chooses a "stream of consciousness" narrative style to articulate his thoughts.

Though it's no Dead Bat in Paraguay, this book divulges Roosh's family relationships more than any other he's written. My family comes from an "old world" culture as well so I immediately understood the dynamic between him and the women in his family.

DC definitely sucks but I think Roosh should spend more time in other major US cities - and second-tier cities - before coming to conclusive views about the entire country. I would like to see him apply his same work ethic in venues in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York and seeing what he has to say. Having been to many American cities myself, I could hardly consider the women to be all the same, whether in looks or personality.

Post: #36

I just bought the 3-memoir combo yesterday.

Contrary to Roosh's advice, I decided to start with Smiley Face rather than Dead Bat.

I don't feel like I've missed any context or necessary information. The book is very readable and enjoyable. The book is basically a series of stories that do follow a vague plot structure, but could easily be read as standalone short stories. As with most of Roosh's material, the best parts are the discussion of topics like

- Human nature
- Happiness
- Comparative cultures
- etc.

The most interesting chapter in my opinion is the one where he gets into an argument with his mom and sister. There are some interesting points brought up there.

Overall, definitely worth the purchase price. Highly recommended.

Post: #37

I read WCILASF in one sitting on my new Kindle.

Random thoughts:

1. I loved it.

2. My biggest complaint, by far, is that it's too short. Like 30 Bangs, WCILASF is easy to digest. On the one hand, that's good: I'm more likely to read a short book. And I tend not to finish books over 300 pages. But I would have appreciated a book more the size of ADBIP. I love Roosh's insights, and his writing style, and I could have used more. Although information products might make Roosh more money, I love the memoirs. In fact, ADBIP had me searching through Amazon for similar travel memoirs.

3. I love Roosh's writing style. He ends most sections with something I'll call a subtle kick in the nuts, which is I really appreciate in both fiction and non-fiction. A good example is the end of one chapter (paraphrasing): "She never did call me." ADBIP has some similar sentences that jolt the reader without being melodramatic. Roosh knows how to walk the fine line between deadpan narration and melodramatic climax. He also uses short sentences, and short words, with good editing, to make smooth, readable paragraphs and chapters.

I look forward to reading Roosh's future work. Now that I have a Kindle, I plan on buying all of his extremely affordable books.

Going forward, I would be happy to see more, lengthier travel memoirs, more philosophical/lifestyle musings, more informational products, and/or a more calculating/blueprint type guide to game (e.g. longer, and more step-by-step checklist than the general advice in Bang).

Post: #38

(03-30-2013 10:12 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Just read the book this morning. Smiley Face consists of Roosh's observations during his one month visit to DC after nearly two years spent in Europe. The book makes many comparisons between American girls (in DC) and the girls he met in Europe. Roosh chooses a "stream of consciousness" narrative style to articulate his thoughts.

Though it's no Dead Bat in Paraguay, this book divulges Roosh's family relationships more than any other he's written. My family comes from an "old world" culture as well so I immediately understood the dynamic between him and the women in his family.

DC definitely sucks but I think Roosh should spend more time in other major US cities - and second-tier cities - before coming to conclusive views about the entire country. I would like to see him apply his same work ethic in venues in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York and seeing what he has to say. Having been to many American cities myself, I could hardly consider the women to be all the same, whether in looks or personality.

The problem, and I have said this before, is that Roosh has already seen the "mountain top," so to speak, of quality & femininity. If he were to return to the USA to do a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cities in the USA, he would be miserable. I can't think of a single city in America, and I have visited many, that would compare to the cities Roosh has visited in Eastern Europe. Not one. That is because American chicks don't compare to Eastern Euro babes in terms of beauty AND femininity.

Yeah, it would have been nice for Roosh to have done a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cites before he left to go overseas, but it is what it is. I still think that Roosh's experience in the DC metro area has given him enough "street cred" to comment on American women. Contra to your point, American women are very similar (when compared to women overseas) since all American women consume the same media/TV/movies/etc and speak the same language, and the small regional differences between chicks in the USA are really minor in the grand scheme of things.

Post: #39

This afternoon at a friends house (in DC), i picked up a copy of Men's Health and in it an article had 2 contradicting points that had me smirking. It claimed DC as the # 1 city for eligible women and Las Vegas as dead last on its list. Another thing, it has a sex and relationship advise page given by a ......woman.

Stay away Roosh, plotting my escape.

Post: #40

(03-30-2013 04:54 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 10:12 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Just read the book this morning. Smiley Face consists of Roosh's observations during his one month visit to DC after nearly two years spent in Europe. The book makes many comparisons between American girls (in DC) and the girls he met in Europe. Roosh chooses a "stream of consciousness" narrative style to articulate his thoughts.

Though it's no Dead Bat in Paraguay, this book divulges Roosh's family relationships more than any other he's written. My family comes from an "old world" culture as well so I immediately understood the dynamic between him and the women in his family.

DC definitely sucks but I think Roosh should spend more time in other major US cities - and second-tier cities - before coming to conclusive views about the entire country. I would like to see him apply his same work ethic in venues in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York and seeing what he has to say. Having been to many American cities myself, I could hardly consider the women to be all the same, whether in looks or personality.

The problem, and I have said this before, is that Roosh has already seen the "mountain top," so to speak, of quality & femininity. If he were to return to the USA to do a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cities in the USA, he would be miserable. I can't think of a single city in America, and I have visited many, that would compare to the cities Roosh has visited in Eastern Europe. Not one. That is because American chicks don't compare to Eastern Euro babes in terms of beauty AND femininity.

Yeah, it would have been nice for Roosh to have done a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cites before he left to go overseas, but it is what it is. I still think that Roosh's experience in the DC metro area has given him enough "street cred" to comment on American women. Contra to your point, American women are very similar (when compared to women overseas) since all American women consume the same media/TV/movies/etc and speak the same language, and the small regional differences between chicks in the USA are really minor in the grand scheme of things.

That point of view still doesn't account for the variety of women that you find in different American cities. Sure, maybe Roosh won't consider the women in NYC or Chicago to be on par with, say, Poland, but he may come to the same conclusion comparing Rio de Janeiro or Kiev to his favorite Polish cities as well. That doesn't mean "American women" altogether suck or anything. I can definitely speak from experience when I say DC women do not resemble the kind of women you find in many other American cities. I always have a much easier time outside of DC when it comes to game.

Post: #41

(03-31-2013 01:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 04:54 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 10:12 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Just read the book this morning. Smiley Face consists of Roosh's observations during his one month visit to DC after nearly two years spent in Europe. The book makes many comparisons between American girls (in DC) and the girls he met in Europe. Roosh chooses a "stream of consciousness" narrative style to articulate his thoughts.

Though it's no Dead Bat in Paraguay, this book divulges Roosh's family relationships more than any other he's written. My family comes from an "old world" culture as well so I immediately understood the dynamic between him and the women in his family.

DC definitely sucks but I think Roosh should spend more time in other major US cities - and second-tier cities - before coming to conclusive views about the entire country. I would like to see him apply his same work ethic in venues in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York and seeing what he has to say. Having been to many American cities myself, I could hardly consider the women to be all the same, whether in looks or personality.

The problem, and I have said this before, is that Roosh has already seen the "mountain top," so to speak, of quality & femininity. If he were to return to the USA to do a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cities in the USA, he would be miserable. I can't think of a single city in America, and I have visited many, that would compare to the cities Roosh has visited in Eastern Europe. Not one. That is because American chicks don't compare to Eastern Euro babes in terms of beauty AND femininity.

Yeah, it would have been nice for Roosh to have done a round-up of descent first-tier and second-tier cites before he left to go overseas, but it is what it is. I still think that Roosh's experience in the DC metro area has given him enough "street cred" to comment on American women. Contra to your point, American women are very similar (when compared to women overseas) since all American women consume the same media/TV/movies/etc and speak the same language, and the small regional differences between chicks in the USA are really minor in the grand scheme of things.

That point of view still doesn't account for the variety of women that you find in different American cities. Sure, maybe Roosh won't consider the women in NYC or Chicago to be on par with, say, Poland, but he may come to the same conclusion comparing Rio de Janeiro or Kiev to his favorite Polish cities as well. That doesn't mean "American women" altogether suck or anything. I can definitely speak from experience when I say DC women do not resemble the kind of women you find in many other American cities. I always have a much easier time outside of DC when it comes to game.

There is some variety among American women, but it pales in comparison to the variety of women overseas. Like I said, all American women pretty much consume the same pop culture and speak the same language, so the differences are not as big on the grand scheme of things. Also, Americans (and thus American women) are some of the fattest people in the world, second only to Kuwait:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl...sults.html

A case can be made that American women "suck" if you compare them to what is available in Eastern Europe, which is Roosh's metric for comparison.

Now, I haven't read "Why can't I leave a smiley face?" yet; however, from the reviews I get the feeling that Roosh doesn't just dislike American women beauty-wise, but also mostly attitude-wise. At the end of the day, if you have spent so much time overseas that you no longer like American women attitude-wise, then coming back to game for any length of time makes little sense.

Post: #42

Dare I say it, but I find DC women a whole different breed altogether. Forget about the US, maybe even the world. I guess the European equivalent would be Brussels (EU headquarters) or Geneva (NGOs galore full of Miss Save the Planet bitches). In Brazil, maybe Brasilia would be the equivalent of DC.

I mean think about the kind of girls that move to DC. They aren't vying to make it as models or moving somewhere for a chill or party kind of lifestyle. Girls who move to DC are looking to independently further themselves. A lot of them move there so they can go as far as they can without a man. They are career-oriented and have the kind of characteristics that are not historically associated with women. DC truly is in a league of its own when it comes to women like that.

Post: #43

I just read the book in a single sitting.

I enjoyed it. I'm also back in america after travelling for 8 straight months. I've been in the suburbs for over a month. The difference is I haven't even gone out a single time, instead working and getting ready for my next adventure.

Like Roosh in DC, my pad is deep in the burbs, yet it doesn't really matter so much as the "hunting grounds" are nothing compared to what you have overseas.

Rampant obesity, early last call , increased feminism, terrible logistics etc. are all things in Smiley Face that ring true for me now that I recall my previous life in America compared to my life overseas.

Since I've spent over a year cumulatively overseas, the implicit comparisons and character shifts are eerily similar.

"World game" is a great concept. It's when actually "being yourself" gets SERIOUS results. It's "most interesting man in the world game" at its best.

In Smiley Face, Roosh comes back to america with a different set of game habits, only to face a previous reality, which he ends up rejecting as he thought he would.

Smiley Face is a microcosm, a small slice of what faces most american men, even when they put their best foot forward.

The difference is Roosh aborts and jumps ship, whereas most american men either face the game market as it is, clinging to their 9-5 jobs, or they retreat into a world of porn, video games, junk food, and other cyber distractions. Those with the means, or location independent businesses that afford them the ability, would be wise to choose the overseas route at least some of the time.

I also appreciated Roosh's openness about his family situation. It's another good example of how the people around you may not have your best interests in mind, even your own family members or best friends.

One lesson of the book is that you have to determine what is right for you.

Smiley Face juxtaposes a man's encounter with two different social realities, and why he chose one over the other.

Post: #44

Finally got around to reading this tonight and enjoyed it. It inspires me in a way the Dead Bat did and reminds me that I'm cut from the same cloth that Roosh is and that moving abroad is my destiny.

What really made it great was being able to recount the meet up night. I flew up from Atl to stay with a really good friend that lives in DC. I took him to the meet up with me after yapping the entire day about Roosh, red pill, and game.

As I was reading, I recollected my time on the balcony at the meet up, and after leaving the meet up my random makeout and grind session at a nearby bar which ended in the girl getting an attitude and storming off in true DC fashion, then my encounter with a beautiful Polish girl (ironic) that I enjoyed a dance with, then finally our brief visit to the Lima club. I remember thinking on the flight home "DC isn't really that bad...no bangs but it was a good night!." I later realized it was my attitude and inner game, fueled by a new place with new people, that caused me to eagerly embrace the night and what it had to offer.

As a frustrated product of an America suburb myself and as someone who has a burning desire to live abroad and truly experience all that foreign women have to offer, this was yet another kick in the ass to make it happen.