Post: #1

Ok guys, I am speaking from a strictly "take advantage of the current situation" position, not a political one. This is not a troll post I swear


We hear the talks of the United States under Obama becoming a "socialist land of handouts" or whatever, with "too many" people getting free shit.


I am not currently getting any free shit.


How do I go about getting some free shit?

Post: #2

Join the military, bro. Great entryway into the vast civil servant gravy train.

Post: #3

Be a woman, have 2 or 3 kids, make around $20,000 a year and you will pay no income tax and the government will send you a check for $5,000 per year.

Post: #4

You should become unemployed and collect a fraction of your previously earned paycheck among the ranks of Americans who are too lazy to work or become job creators.

Post: #5

work in public service. something where you can collect a pension and its easy do-nothing work.

or just don't work (or work under the table). low income...get low income housing..get welfare...etc.

Post: #6

(02-22-2013 01:39 PM)username Wrote:  Be a woman, have 2 or 3 kids, make around $20,000 a year and you will pay no income tax and the government will send you a check for $5,000 per year.

source?

Post: #7

^ That's pretty much the norm. I would not say you pay not income tax they do "pay income tax" but they receive so much back that its a net gain fro them. Not sure about the USA but in Canada the Gov't won't take shit from you if you make under 15K. They maybe give you anything but they won't take anything from you. If your a single mother... ? You will get tax credits out the yahoo, Child tax benefits of a payment for each kid, and you can claim a whole bunch of other shit that you could not if you were single or a Male.

In Canada a single mom can get $300 a month per kid, per month. She is not bound to spend it on the kid either she can go shopping with the shit if she wants (and many do). My homie and his girl have 3 kids and won't get married yet because they are using all the perks she gets as being a "single mom" as a means to save up and have a fat downpayment for a home. They have lived together for 6 years now lol. She can stay at home with the kids and just works very little and does school part-time, while he hustles and brings home the bread.

Post: #8

(02-22-2013 06:47 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 01:39 PM)username Wrote:  Be a woman, have 2 or 3 kids, make around $20,000 a year and you will pay no income tax and the government will send you a check for $5,000 per year.

source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earned_income_tax_credit
In the US we do this silly thing where wages are taxed twice. First your employer pays a payroll tax (unless you're a contractor) on top of your gross wages and then you pay an income tax if your gross wages are above the standard deduction. Thus everybody who makes money pays federal taxes, one way or another. The EITC is a partial refund of the payroll taxes to provide incentive for very low wage earners to work. You only get it if you earned income and it's not more than your employer payed in payroll taxes.

With no kids if you make less than $7500/year the government will give you $457. Sounds like a winning strategy to me.

Post: #9

(02-22-2013 01:03 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  Ok guys, I am speaking from a strictly "take advantage of the current situation" position, not a political one. This is not a troll post I swear


We hear the talks of the United States under Obama becoming a "socialist land of handouts" or whatever, with "too many" people getting free shit.


I am not currently getting any free shit.


How do I go about getting some free shit?

+1 - I'm tired of hearing about this great Marxist utopia that Premier Obama is implementing and never getting shit!

Post: #10

(02-23-2013 09:47 AM)Ensam Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 06:47 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 01:39 PM)username Wrote:  Be a woman, have 2 or 3 kids, make around $20,000 a year and you will pay no income tax and the government will send you a check for $5,000 per year.

source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earned_income_tax_credit
In the US we do this silly thing where wages are taxed twice. First your employer pays a payroll tax (unless you're a contractor) on top of your gross wages and then you pay an income tax if your gross wages are above the standard deduction. Thus everybody who makes money pays federal taxes, one way or another. The EITC is a partial refund of the payroll taxes to provide incentive for very low wage earners to work. You only get it if you earned income and it's not more than your employer payed in payroll taxes.

With no kids if you make less than $7500/year the government will give you $457. Sounds like a winning strategy to me.

^ This.

If you go to that page under EIC Table, 2010 it shows that if someone has an income of between $12,550–$16,449 and 2 or 2+ kids they will receive $5,036.

Post: #11

Sorry, but you guys are all talking small potatoes. You want to make some real money off the government? It's easy. Just get a stake in companies that get government contracts and then start a war or two.

Post: #12

SUMMARY OF HOW TO GET FREE SHIT FROM OBAMA (in order greatest to least fee shit)

1. Have 'no-bid' contracts to supply military/security/ terrorism/intelligence complex:
Value: BillionsTrillions in Free Shit

2. Have 'bid' contracts to supply tech/fighters that don't work and have massive cost overuns(see F-35 Fighter)
Value: Billions/Hundreds of Millions in Free Shit

3. Own-Run politically connected company that can get bailouts/welfare after you run the company into the ground:
Value: Trillions/Billions in Free Shit

4. Have government job: politician/bureaucrat/worker/contractor/military personel
Value: in wages, pension, and fringe benefits: Millions
*for active duty military in war zone - there is risk of death/pyschological damage - so not free)

5. Be Poor/unskilled/uneducated/low-motivation/unemployed or unemployable or lazy/stupid or very unlucky
Value: Tens/Hundreds of thousands: EBT, Section 8, Public Assistance, Public Housing, etc........

Post: #13

SUMMARY OF HOW NOT TO GET FREE SHIT FROM OBAMA

1. be working class/middle class/upper-middle/upper class/rich from educating yourself or developing a talent, taking your life seriously, being enterprising or entrepreneurial, a saver and investor, and working in a business or owning a business or career that is not:

1. Politically connected and dependent on government contracts directly or indirectly
2. Not goverment based.
3. Not dependent on or has availed itself of bailouts etc.

If you are in this segment, shit is taken from you in order to be given to the others ...as 'free shit'

.

Post: #14

(02-22-2013 07:00 PM)kosko Wrote:  ^ That's pretty much the norm. I would not say you pay not income tax they do "pay income tax" but they receive so much back that its a net gain fro them. Not sure about the USA but in Canada the Gov't won't take shit from you if you make under 15K. They maybe give you anything but they won't take anything from you. If your a single mother... ? You will get tax credits out the yahoo, Child tax benefits of a payment for each kid, and you can claim a whole bunch of other shit that you could not if you were single or a Male.

In Canada a single mom can get $300 a month per kid, per month. She is not bound to spend it on the kid either she can go shopping with the shit if she wants (and many do). My homie and his girl have 3 kids and won't get married yet because they are using all the perks she gets as being a "single mom" as a means to save up and have a fat downpayment for a home. They have lived together for 6 years now lol. She can stay at home with the kids and just works very little and does school part-time, while he hustles and brings home the bread.

how difficult is it in Canada to work for cash "under the table" ???

Post: #15

This would be a really neat idea for a blog/business.

"How To Take Advantage of Welfare Benefits in X Country"

Employment Insurance is probably the best scam available in Canada. Find seasonal work, or just get 'fired' at an opportune time, collect (I believe) 80% of your previous salary:

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/sc/ei/index.shtml

I don't think anything in Canada and the US can compare to the UK. GBP 25,000 is a lot of money, even in London.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...state.html

Post: #16

NYC its REALLY easy.

A) become a resident
B) Apply for food stamps, medicaid, and put your name on an application for various housing projects.

Food stamps and medicaid are the easy ones, housing there is a waiting list usually with preference for single mom's.

Under Obama: I think you can be 25-27 under Obamacare and stay on your parents medical? That's DEF some free shit. And he kept extending unemployment benefits past their usual end date.

Post: #17

(02-23-2013 04:35 PM)Frost Wrote:  This would be a really neat idea for a blog/business.

"How To Take Advantage of Welfare Benefits in X Country"

Employment Insurance is probably the best scam available in Canada. Find seasonal work, or just get 'fired' at an opportune time, collect (I believe) 80% of your previous salary:

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/sc/ei/index.shtml

I don't think anything in Canada and the US can compare to the UK. GBP 25,000 is a lot of money, even in London.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...state.html

It's down to 60%. They are starting to change it to account for seasonal work. They stipulate you have to take work in your area that pays 80% of your seasonal wage. The Catch 22 is that you are going to be very hard pressed to find 40 hour a week job that makes 80% of one that is 90 hours a week.

They really need to get rid of EI period. There are lots of people from the east coast who come out to work 3 months and then go spend the other 9 on EI. You should only be able to collect as much money as you have put in personally at the very least.

Post: #18

As a kid I experienced the full run of govt services and programs. Govt housing is shitacular, if youre lucky enough to have a place that isnt filled with roaches/bedbugs/godknows what else, none of your appliances will be anything resembling modern. That EBT card will give you just enough to eat, but don't expect great meals around the clock. You're not going to have much money to spare for clothes or transportation.

I will say that govt peanut butter is amazing, I have never had better. The only time being poor was a good thing was when I went to college and got damn near a full ride.

If you want free govt shit either enlist or go to prison. Either one and you get food, clothing, and shelter.

Post: #19

(02-22-2013 07:00 PM)kosko Wrote:  ^ That's pretty much the norm. I would not say you pay not income tax they do "pay income tax" but they receive so much back that its a net gain fro them. Not sure about the USA but in Canada the Gov't won't take shit from you if you make under 15K. They maybe give you anything but they won't take anything from you. If your a single mother... ? You will get tax credits out the yahoo, Child tax benefits of a payment for each kid, and you can claim a whole bunch of other shit that you could not if you were single or a Male.

In Canada a single mom can get $300 a month per kid, per month. She is not bound to spend it on the kid either she can go shopping with the shit if she wants (and many do). My homie and his girl have 3 kids and won't get married yet because they are using all the perks she gets as being a "single mom" as a means to save up and have a fat downpayment for a home. They have lived together for 6 years now lol. She can stay at home with the kids and just works very little and does school part-time, while he hustles and brings home the bread.

If she decided to end the relationship, HE'S SCREWED out of home and income. Cause the government will switch from giving to taking HIS income to subsidize her....and they will NOT be kind in that regard 'cause what they take from him they'll also be redistributing in ( administration fees) to other "single-moms."

Post: #20

I love the resounding sentiment that being in the fucking military somehow equates to a government handout. Incredible...


Yeah... Lots of "free shit" over here in Afghanistan, Boys.

Post: #21

(02-23-2013 09:45 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  I love the resounding sentiment that being in the fucking military somehow equates to a government handout. Incredible...


Yeah... Lots of "free shit" over here in Afghanistan, Boys.

Much of being in the military is about getting free shit.

Not all obviously, but much.........and if it ain't lots of free shit for the grunts, then it is for the people who send them out there .....
...
for example..
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter - $400 billion failure - cracked engines after billions in "cost overuns"..... a lot of free shit for somebody....

Post: #22

Hipsters are getting food stamps and using them at whole foods. Not sure how they pull it off. Ask around.

Post: #23

Yeah, you have to be in bad poverty to get any free shit.

And it's not free shit you want really.

Don't be idiots. The people getting handouts are not living large. They are doing very badly.

Hipsters who don't have jobs are just fucking unemployed and broke. Just because you're a hipster doesn't mean you can't be starving. I've known hipsters on food stamps who moved to South America to teach English, and ended up having a much higher quality of life than at home on food stamps.

You can wear skinny or loose fitting jeans, poverty is still rough.

Of course, if you own a bank or something, you can also get free shit. Lose all your money and the tax-payer will bail you out.

Be in the middle though, and there's nothing for you. Maybe mortgage deductions? Doesn't seem too lavish...

Post: #24

(02-23-2013 03:26 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 07:00 PM)kosko Wrote:  ^ That's pretty much the norm. I would not say you pay not income tax they do "pay income tax" but they receive so much back that its a net gain fro them. Not sure about the USA but in Canada the Gov't won't take shit from you if you make under 15K. They maybe give you anything but they won't take anything from you. If your a single mother... ? You will get tax credits out the yahoo, Child tax benefits of a payment for each kid, and you can claim a whole bunch of other shit that you could not if you were single or a Male.

In Canada a single mom can get $300 a month per kid, per month. She is not bound to spend it on the kid either she can go shopping with the shit if she wants (and many do). My homie and his girl have 3 kids and won't get married yet because they are using all the perks she gets as being a "single mom" as a means to save up and have a fat downpayment for a home. They have lived together for 6 years now lol. She can stay at home with the kids and just works very little and does school part-time, while he hustles and brings home the bread.

how difficult is it in Canada to work for cash "under the table" ???

@game theory re: cash under the table in Canada - much easier than in the US. Canada doesn't have "1099s" just "W2s" so its much harder to audit self employment income.

Post: #25

I think you're talking about getting an Obamaphone, food stamps, HEAP ($ for your heating bill), health insurance, section 8 housing and stuff like that. I really doubt you want to live such a mediocre lifestyle, you wouldn't be here otherwise.

The way to get free shit from Obama or any other politician is to be a fundraiser. This actually fits very well into a Game lifestyle. You're basically throwing parties, networking, and socializing. You connect people, businesses, charities and causes to politicians and you raise money for whichever politicians will give you what you want. Party affiliation is only a matter of who is electable in whatever district your concern is in.

Buying a politician is very cheap and they will sell out the country for impossibly low prices. I forget what the maximum yearly direct donation you can give to a politician is ($1500? $3000?) but there's tons of ways around it: you give to PAC's, they have their $15,000 or $30,000 dinners and you buy them for you, your wife, family and friends. You own a business and you "force" all your employees or executives to donate to certain candidates. You also contribute through your friends and family members, you know how passionate 5 year olds are about their politicians.

Look at Jon Corzine, former New Jersey Governor (ruined the state economically) then gambled billions at MF Global and lost (great story of how not to invest, especially when they only hire you to be a well connected figurehead but you think you're the best trader in the building, but what the hell, it wasn't his money he pissed away). He basically stole $1.6 billion from his customers. The guy is a failure and a fraud but a great fundraiser so he is the typical politically connected insider integral to the Ruling Class in America who fails his way up the ladder from one lofty position to another with zero consequences. If I stole $1000 from someone I'd go directly to jail but if you're a fundraiser you can steal a billion and NOTHING HAPPENS TO YOU AT ALL!

Get into your local political machine, start fundraising and contributing, network, get named to civic, corporate and charitable boards, that pay extremely well and have huge benefits (salary for very little actual work, company smartphone, computer, internet, car, meals, travel, health insurance, club memberships, etc...). This is a rich and powerful lifestyle but you have to be a two faced, glad handing backstabber with little to no moral values who talks out of both sides of their mouth and would sell their own grandmother down the river if it gets you ahead. Having deep rooted convictions are a liability in this business.

There's also a ton of top shelf pussy but you have to maintain a squeaky clean image. Can't be getting caught in any type of sex scandals except maybe gay stuff because that's politically correct these days. No young girls, no interns and no employees. Of course you'd be fucking them all but if it comes out (i.e. you aren't smart enough with the hush money) you're "ruined" as in you can no longer be the face of the fundraising machine, you just move into the background and keep doing the same thing. You can pull a Corzine and directly steal money but don't get caught with your pants down.

You want free shit? You gotta spend money, but it doesn't have to be your own money and once you get the ball rolling it takes on a life of its' own.