Post: #26

Not all Scandinavian girls are the same.Swedish are top by European standards while Danish stand average to the bottom.
There is some truth in the Scandinavian girl stereotype as the sweet, tall, easy blonde. However this image was created mainly by seventies porn when shooting porn films was only allowed in certain countries and eastern block was off access.

Now with the integration of slavic countries and the explosion of competition to stratospheric levels Scandinavian women have lost a lot of their appeal. Moreover obesity has hit hard. I was told by Norwegians it was impossible to see a fat Norwegian girl 30 years ago they all had prefect shape.Now a 25-30% of them are overweight.

Moreover by guys having experienced the past the attitude of Scandinavian women had changed a lot since the seventies and eighties.Now they are more prone to conservatism unlike their more liberal parents. Guys with Mediterranean characteristics are no more exotic to them after the mass immigration of Arabs and Turks to Scandinavian countries while they tend to connect these characteristics with low tendencies as creepiness and obscure goals. In any case a Scandinavian or English guy is a more attractive option to them.

As for flirting they are open to it but demand a high level of energy and amusement as all Germanic and Anglosaxon girls in general.If you can be witty, sustain the high energy without declining or slowing down and are mentally alert you are in. They have high IQs but not so high as German or Dutch women meaning their minds can wander at some moment they fail to keep control 100% of the time.Scandinavians generally have this element to like some relax and leisure and not be constantly on dog alert like Germans. So they can be quite pleasant at flirting where conversation can cover a big range of topics not just female oriented topics.However they are more feminine than German girls and some issues are taboo for them they lack the total masculine style of German girls.

As for dressing they are dressed with more revealing clothes than German but less revealing than British girls. They also do not like to expose both breasts and legs unlike the English girls. (if they have decoltes they avoid mini skirts and if they wear mini skirts they avoid decoltes). They also like to cover their legs with peculiar black thick stockings which they consider sexy and avoid high heels and too much make up or perfumes (difference from slavic girls quite noticeable).

However as physical beauties (in bikinis) they are hard to beat by any category of slavic girls (they really demolish Russian or Polish girls who happen to tan nearby however this effect is only when you see them in flesh in bikini status without the accessories).
Also they look better when they talk while slavic girls look better when they pose or walk.Another good thing with Scandinavian girls is that they look the same from nearby as they look from a distance their face does not collapse when you start talking to them like it often happens with slavic girls (the latter commonly due to previous intonation of attractive characteristics by pose and tension of certain facial muscles a trick slavic girls use, the heavy use of make up which is obvious from close, a certain lack of self esteem which makes for less attractive features and the bad dental care due to worse financial situation of slavic girls combined with their thin hair which is mainly due to genetics (lots of baldness also common among slavic men). Slavic girls are aware of these defects as well as their bigger noses and use the style, clothing, make-up, exposure of their top looking legs and smooth conversation skills to compensate.

Post: #27

Depends where you are in Norden (better terminology than Scandinavia).

But seriously, Finland may have the most blonde haired, blue eyed people, but the girls have a classic case of the butterface.

Sweden's alright. Lot of tall women. Stick with Stockholm if you don't know Swedish. Göteborg is where it's at if "Du talar Svenska". Breaking social circle game, which is very common in Sweden, is quite difficult at first, but the best option usually is to integrate yourself as much as possible with the group.

Speak a bit of Swedish, talk about mutual interests, where you're from, etc etc. Chances are if you're in Göteborg or Uppsala they'll really be interested. Not as much in Stockholm.

Haven't been to Norway. I've heard Denmark is not the best of places (friend who's there now and took the red pill).


Go to Åland. I personally love it there. Vicious back me up with this. (if you've been)

Post: #28

I've said it before... It's actually quite amazing that a group of only 9 million people (less than the pop of NYC) has the most polarized reviews on the entire board.

There must be a code that some people have cracked and others are struggling with.

Post: #29

(02-17-2013 02:49 PM)jammer Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 09:47 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Posting pics is pointless!

http://www.thelocal.se/gallery/nightlife/2786/

http://www.thelocal.se/gallery/nightlife/2786/3/

Is that how the typical Swedish girls look or is that just representative of the upscale girl who only goes to exclusive clubs?

I would not say this is typical of a swedish girl, how many girls look that good period. However, I will say you don't have to look hard to find girls of that caliber in Stockholm.

Post: #30

So many mixed opinions and some I want to express myself. I never felt too much into the aryan blond hair blue eyed princess hype, the Mediterranean and Eastern Euro combo has been at the top for me. Just looks like some of you mistook me as saying that girls from the Nordic countries aren't beautiful, if you are into blondes they are the best but I just expressed my frustration with so many westerners putting them on the pedestal. never heard an american say anything bad about scandinavian women, at all. Whether you like the blondes or the brunettes, you must admit that blondes are overhyped all over. Must be the serious issue in America as a lot of you say.

Another point is the one about Scandinavian and English men being the best options and it not being a wonderland for Black men. I am not black so I won't comment on that (didn't recall seeing too many black men there with local girls) but I had no issues and I am a Spaniard (darker appearance), really worked to my advantage. Saw and met a few Brown men (mostly Persians and arabs) there dating or married to the local girls. A friend of mines from Denmark told me Asian men do well there but that is for another discussion. I don't see being ethnic looking as too much of an issue there. Latin men can do really well there from my short stay.

Post: #31

(02-17-2013 12:16 AM)Caligula Wrote:  Men are hard wired to find blonde girls more attractive. It's biological. Am on phone so can't look up sources. Check out Kanazawa evo psych papers on the subject. Blonde hair signals youth and fertility. Not many girls stay naturally blonde past a certain age.

There's a lot of Scandi girl hate here coming from guys with little to no experience in the region.

also, during the Agricultural Societies phase of human development, poor peasants worked in the sun all day long and got dark skin, while wealthy lords were rich enough to kick back in the shade, thus fair skin was equated with wealth. the California Beach culture of post WW2 America has undermined this paradigm a little

Post: #32

we say blondes are more attractive, we stereotype them as being the most attractive, yet all the surveys online say men prefer brunettes

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-...ettes.html

anyone mind explaining?

Post: #33

(02-18-2013 10:03 PM)CJVM Wrote:  So many mixed opinions and some I want to express myself. I never felt too much into the aryan blond hair blue eyed princess hype, the Mediterranean and Eastern Euro combo has been at the top for me. Just looks like some of you mistook me as saying that girls from the Nordic countries aren't beautiful, if you are into blondes they are the best but I just expressed my frustration with so many westerners putting them on the pedestal. never heard an american say anything bad about scandinavian women, at all. Whether you like the blondes or the brunettes, they are overhyped all over. Must be the serious issue in America as a lot of you say.

Another point is the one about Scandinavian and English men being the best options and it not being a wonderland for Black men. I am not black so I won't comment on that (didn't recall seeing too many black men there with local girls) but I had no issues and I am a Spaniard (darker appearance), really worked to my advantage. Saw and met a few Brown men (mostly Persians and arabs) there dating or married to the local girls. A friend of mines from Denmark told me Asian men do well there but that is for another discussion. I don't see being ethnic looking as too much of an issue there. Latin men can do really well there from my short stay.

Not sure what you are trying to say, so let me ask.
You say you had no problems being a "darker" spaniard, you also know Arabs, Persians and heard Indians do well there.
When it comes to Black men, you seem to doubt they do well there because you don't see them there and being "ethnic" looking is not a issue.
My friend your statement is a contradiction, I will also say I completely disagree with your assessment. I actually got a laugh watching the above mentioned groups trying to impress the local girls in bars/clubs. They were simply no competition for me, if it weren't for the cold weather I would be living there.

Post: #34

(02-18-2013 10:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 10:03 PM)CJVM Wrote:  So many mixed opinions and some I want to express myself. I never felt too much into the aryan blond hair blue eyed princess hype, the Mediterranean and Eastern Euro combo has been at the top for me. Just looks like some of you mistook me as saying that girls from the Nordic countries aren't beautiful, if you are into blondes they are the best but I just expressed my frustration with so many westerners putting them on the pedestal. never heard an american say anything bad about scandinavian women, at all. Whether you like the blondes or the brunettes, they are overhyped all over. Must be the serious issue in America as a lot of you say.

Another point is the one about Scandinavian and English men being the best options and it not being a wonderland for Black men. I am not black so I won't comment on that (didn't recall seeing too many black men there with local girls) but I had no issues and I am a Spaniard (darker appearance), really worked to my advantage. Saw and met a few Brown men (mostly Persians and arabs) there dating or married to the local girls. A friend of mines from Denmark told me Asian men do well there but that is for another discussion. I don't see being ethnic looking as too much of an issue there. Latin men can do really well there from my short stay.

Not sure what you are trying to say, so let me ask.
You say you had no problems being a "darker" spaniard, you also know Arabs, Persians and heard Indians do well there.
When it comes to Black men, you seem to doubt they do well there because you don't see them there and being "ethnic" looking is not a issue.
My friend your statement is a contradiction, I will also say I completely disagree with your assessment. I actually got a laugh watching the above mentioned groups trying to impress the local girls in bars/clubs. They were simply no competition for me, if it weren't for the cold weather I would be living there.

did not say anything about black men doing bad, I just seem to doubt the belief that they are at the top of the ladder or would have a cakewalk there like the belief in some places are

let me rephrase what I said so you can understand

other European men will do great there, southern european men (italians, spaniards, portuguese) are loved there (some history behind it). I saw arabic and persian looking men hooking up with local women (it wasn't a rare sight), who knew how they got these girls but i remember seeing quite a few of them making out with local girls and some mixed race kids of the two even.

Latin American men can definitely kill it there (know two who live there that do great). Asian men (japanese, chinese,) seem to do great in Denmark from what people who have been there tell me.

don't believe race matters there that much if I was to say which kind of men "kill it" there or have some kind of a head start as some of you in here call it, I would point out men who have features like cristiano ronaldo, joseph gordon levitt, or antonio banderas (darker appearance overall but not necessarily black). but i am a believer in that game conquers all, being an american or aussie is also a huge bonus, they love those two cultures for some reason.

Post: #35

Post: #36

(02-18-2013 11:07 PM)CJVM Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 10:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(02-18-2013 10:03 PM)CJVM Wrote:  So many mixed opinions and some I want to express myself. I never felt too much into the aryan blond hair blue eyed princess hype, the Mediterranean and Eastern Euro combo has been at the top for me. Just looks like some of you mistook me as saying that girls from the Nordic countries aren't beautiful, if you are into blondes they are the best but I just expressed my frustration with so many westerners putting them on the pedestal. never heard an american say anything bad about scandinavian women, at all. Whether you like the blondes or the brunettes, they are overhyped all over. Must be the serious issue in America as a lot of you say.

Another point is the one about Scandinavian and English men being the best options and it not being a wonderland for Black men. I am not black so I won't comment on that (didn't recall seeing too many black men there with local girls) but I had no issues and I am a Spaniard (darker appearance), really worked to my advantage. Saw and met a few Brown men (mostly Persians and arabs) there dating or married to the local girls. A friend of mines from Denmark told me Asian men do well there but that is for another discussion. I don't see being ethnic looking as too much of an issue there. Latin men can do really well there from my short stay.

Not sure what you are trying to say, so let me ask.
You say you had no problems being a "darker" spaniard, you also know Arabs, Persians and heard Indians do well there.
When it comes to Black men, you seem to doubt they do well there because you don't see them there and being "ethnic" looking is not a issue.
My friend your statement is a contradiction, I will also say I completely disagree with your assessment. I actually got a laugh watching the above mentioned groups trying to impress the local girls in bars/clubs. They were simply no competition for me, if it weren't for the cold weather I would be living there.

did not say anything about black men doing bad, I just seem to doubt the belief that they are at the top of the ladder or would have a cakewalk there like the belief in some places are

let me rephrase what I said so you can understand

other European men will do great there, southern european men (italians, spaniards, portuguese) are loved there (some history behind it). I saw arabic and persian looking men hooking up with local women (it wasn't a rare sight), who knew how they got these girls but i remember seeing quite a few of them making out with local girls and some mixed race kids of the two even.

Latin American men can definitely kill it there (know two who live there that do great). Asian men (japanese, chinese,) seem to do great in Denmark from what people who have been there tell me.

don't believe race matters there that much if I was to say which kind of men "kill it" there or have some kind of a head start as some of you in here call it, I would point out men who have features like cristiano ronaldo, joseph gordon levitt, or antonio banderas (darker appearance overall but not necessarily black). but i am a believer in that game conquers all, being an american or aussie is also a huge bonus, they love those two cultures for some reason.

This topic has been discussed before, so I will not go down that road. In other words you have stated every race of man does well there except black men, then you point out some famous people to justify your case.
My friend you are a troll, pure and simple.
If you don't like Scandinavian women then I can understand but your insecurities are so obvious it is pathetic. The reason I am tackling you is that you also made a comment on another thread about black guys.

Post: #37

The apparent belief in your head is that being Black puts you at the top of some type of ladder there and women will jump on you for that alone, I said that isn't true. Read my sentence, I simply said that unless you have a Mediterranean type of appearance to you, your race won't do you any favors but you can certainly do well if you have game and other things. In my experience, it is safe to say that white males with a swarthy appearance have it made there and it is a definite advantage.

But even if you look like Ronaldo or Banderas (not that handsome but similar features), you still need to put in the work and have tight game to get the best talent.

I told my personal experience of seeing a lot of persians and middle eastern looking men with local women. Didn't say that kill it or do well there. Who knows how they got those women.

If you are an American or Australian, race doesn't mean anything, if you are a part of those cultures you will receive a lot of attention (positive). I also talked about how others have told me that asian men do well in denmark but didn't notice that in sweden. It seems like me saying being Black alone will let you kill it in Sweden is bothering you, take that up with the user on the 1st page that said it isn't a wonderland for black men, I am done talk about this topic and do not want this thread to go down that path.

If it is of any relief, Black men can certainly do well there if they have game, but being black alone won't have women fighting to get with you.

Post: #38

(02-19-2013 12:27 AM)CJVM Wrote:  The apparent belief in your head is that being Black puts you at the top of some type of ladder there and women will jump on you for that alone, I said that isn't true.

No one said anything about women jumping on you because of race. It is simply something exotic that helps open them up.

Unless you're a black guy, you really don't know how they react.

Post: #39

(02-18-2013 10:13 PM)CJVM Wrote:  we say blondes are more attractive, we stereotype them as being the most attractive, yet all the surveys online say men prefer brunettes

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-...ettes.html

anyone mind explaining?

None of those surveys say men prefer brunettes. They only say that brunettes are perceived as more serious minded and better workers. Attributes that have nothing to do with their sexual desirability. Also a bunch of those studies have very low participation in numbers (below 1000) making them statistically insignificant.

In general you shouldn’t even bother with Askmen which is nothing but a rag. Especially when the article author is a brown haired woman!

Post: #40

(02-18-2013 10:13 PM)CJVM Wrote:  we say blondes are more attractive, we stereotype them as being the most attractive, yet all the surveys online say men prefer brunettes

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-...ettes.html

anyone mind explaining?

None of those surveys say men prefer brunettes. They only say that brunettes are perceived as more serious minded and better workers. Attributes that have nothing to do with their sexual desirability. Also a bunch of those studies have very low participation in numbers (below 1000) making them statistically insignificant.

In general you shouldn’t even bother with Askmen which is nothing but a rag. Especially when the article author is a brown haired woman!

Post: #41

(02-19-2013 12:27 AM)CJVM Wrote:  The apparent belief in your head is that being Black puts you at the top of some type of ladder there and women will jump on you for that alone, I said that isn't true. Read my sentence, I simply said that unless you have a Mediterranean type of appearance to you, your race won't do you any favors but you can certainly do well if you have game and other things. In my experience, it is safe to say that white males with a swarthy appearance have it made there and it is a definite advantage.

But even if you look like Ronaldo or Banderas (not that handsome but similar features), you still need to put in the work and have tight game to get the best talent.

I told my personal experience of seeing a lot of persians and middle eastern looking men with local women. Didn't say that kill it or do well there. Who knows how they got those women.

If you are an American or Australian, race doesn't mean anything, if you are a part of those cultures you will receive a lot of attention (positive). I also talked about how others have told me that asian men do well in denmark but didn't notice that in sweden. It seems like me saying being Black alone will let you kill it in Sweden is bothering you, take that up with the user on the 1st page that said it isn't a wonderland for black men, I am done talk about this topic and do not want this thread to go down that path.

If it is of any relief, Black men can certainly do well there if they have game, but being black alone won't have women fighting to get with you.

Worldwidetraveler - he simply does not get it!

So basically you are calling me a liar, to cut this argument short why don't you post a datasheet. Tell us how you used "game" and your swarthy looks to get the ladies.
Please include where you stayed, the clubs you visited and the time of year you went. Tell me your style and please give others recommendations on how to succeed there.

Can't understand your logic, if you state that the women are over-rated why would you care who does well there. I killed it there and couldn't care less about the competition, I know not ALL girls are going to be into black guys but a fair amount are open minded.

Post: #42

I met some ugly danish girls last night. One of them was bragging to me about how her and her friend were having a contest to see who could fuck the most dudes. She said she was in the lead by one. I told her how for a guy to have sex with many girls is an accomplishment and how it's irelivant how many guys a girl can sleep with because there will always be a guy desperate to bang a chick no matter how ugly she is. They were also wearing sandals in the club. yum yum.

Post: #43

I'm going to go bang a Saami chick now. They're Scandinavian too.

First Saami flag on this forum?!

Ships Ahoy to Rovaniemi!

Post: #44

Blacks have an audience in Scandinavia. A 10% of girls likes Blacks but this is enough.Contrary to that Mediteraneans do not have an audience in Scandinavia meaning there are no Swedish girls who specifically like Mediteraneans.It is just that Mediterranean looks on men are more attractive and this is how far this gets.

Post: #45

1. About the blonde and brunette study, find any online poll (one that might be on forums or websites) and you will see that brunettes win by far, it is not even close in most cases. I can't see us debating that most men on polls will say they prefer brunettes yet westerners hold blondes as being the model for beauty (which is why I posted this thread).

2. I am done debating about how Black men will do in Sweden but from my stay there I did not see that many in clubs making out with local girls or as many couples involving Black men with local women. A person who has lived there could correct me. other staments saying "i am black and i killed it", i never said you couldn't. saying it has to do with being exotic, well the country is a lot of white (especially outside stockholm) so that could apply to any minority (what is wrong with me saying japanese men kill it there? i met one who was staying there and dating a local woman that was good looking). If I have time for data sheet I will put it up in a week but i have little time for forum.

Why is it we get so many people saying that being black is some superpower there yet being latino (latin american) is not? I met a few Latino men who did great with all kinds of women there and one was dating a woman who wasn't even into his culture.

If we are going to say that being a Black is an advantage because of being exotic, we should throw that in about all minorities except for arabs (since there were so many of them there from what i saw in my stay) and be done with.


Scandinavian girls love Spanish men and I want evidence to the contrary to anyone that oppose me, a lot of women in europe outside of southern europe do (especially polish but that is for another thread). Italian men are also well received. European men in general regardless of where they are from will have an advantage, American and Australian men are also loved.

To say Mediterranean men don't have an audience or having those kinds of looks isn't an advantage there is something that goes against my visit and against what is commonly held true. Also, a lot of us look White (Fernando Torres) for example so to say a White man can't do well in a mostly White country is, I won't even debate that (though I do have the olive skin and dark hair on me).

we would be best to start a thread on what kind of men the women there like rather than bringing this thread to that direction.

Post: #46

(02-19-2013 07:08 PM)CJVM Wrote:  Scandinavian girls love Spanish men and I want evidence to the contrary to anyone that oppose me, a lot of women in europe outside of southern europe do (especially polish but that is for another thread). Italian men are also well received. European men in general regardless of where they are from will have an advantage, American and Australian men are also loved.

To say Mediterranean men don't have an audience or having those kinds of looks isn't an advantage there is something that goes against my visit and against what is commonly held true. Also, a lot of us look White (Fernando Torres) for example so to say a White man can't do well in a mostly White country is, I won't even debate that (though I do have the olive skin and dark hair on me).

we would be best to start a thread on what kind of men the women there like rather than bringing this thread to that direction.

I can't help but laugh at the hypocrisy.

A few black members have spoke of doing quite well there. Yet, you don't believe them.

Someone said Spanish guys are not in demand there and you want proof.

Why do you care so much?

Saying black guys do well there doesn't mean other races can't. This isn't a competition yet you seem to want black guys to lose or something.

Too many women out there to worry so much about this nonsense.

Post: #47

So I guess I will not hold my breath then for the datasheet since you "claim" you are busy, which makes me think you have not been there. Until you can produce that you have no credibility and probably should stick to the newbie forum.
You have already been told from a senior member that Spanish men don't have an audience, I wanted to say the same but it is more powerful coming from Greek Kamiki. Seeing one chinese, arab or whatever dating a Scandinavian girl does not mean they are ALL into exotic guys.
From my experience and like you rightly said they are into American culture, so therefore they would be receptive to American men black or white. I have met only black americans working/studying and even playing in the Swedish basketball league. They ALL had perma smiles on there faces and were having the time of there life's.
Also to show how much of a newbie you really are, you will not find too many southern european men in Scandinavia. Italian men tend to favour DR, Cuba, Brazil and countries with soft "prostitution". Alot of southerners like Central European countries like Czech Rep, Poland, Hungary and Romania, in these countries they have higher value.
In Scandinavia, not including the local men American men would have the highest value.
Then again this should not concern you because you started this thread and stated they were over-rated.

Post: #48

I meant that Blacks have an audience in the sense that you will hear a girl saying "I like Blacks" or "I only date Blacks" but you will never hear "I only date Spanish".However girls who date Scandinavian guys and are not open to Blacks may date Mediterranean guys as well that is the Mediterranean look has larger appeal but no exclusivity.
Let's say:
60% of girls date only Scandinavian or maybe English men as well (English, Americans are popular in Scandinavia for some reason I do not know why).
30% prefer Scandinavians but are open to Mediteraneans id they look very good and have money.
10% date only Blacks and in some cases some exotic races which I do not know.
This is a rough but not very accurate picture.It is the same in other countries like Germany.

Post: #49

Dude was trolling us... Banned.

Post: #50

Greek Kamaki - I fully understood what you were saying.

Yeah the troll is gone, too bad I was having fun winding him up. What is with these Spanish dudes on here lately!!!