while i think the level of fat hatred on this forum is pretty well established. sometimes its important for us men to go back to the basics. beyond how disgusting it is to look at fat women, perhaps the real crime is that many of these women would be fuckable and probably have less cunty attitudes IF THEY ONLY LOST THE WEIGHT.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: the US would have some of the world's hottest chicks if a massive famine were to strike. The sheer diversity has created a massive pool of ingredients and potential permutations. If dudes stopped putting up with all the bullshit overnight--and lay down the necessary regulations and correctives--we could revamp them from the inside too.

Will it happen? No.

Yeah, well, what can you do?
Besides shame them to lose weight of course.

You're absolutely right, though. All but the most horrendously obese women can look pretty hot once they lose weight.
One of my favorite examples, check out this former fatty turned hot ass fitness chick.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/...uper-hero/

(02-08-2013 09:11 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  One of my favorite examples, check out this former fatty turned hot ass fitness chick.

And that's thing: you'd get in trouble with not-just-delusional-feminists for calling that chick fat in the before picture. That's how far we've come.

A lotta guys would see their raw no-game assisted #'s improve of they lost their double chins and pudginess.

WIA

(02-08-2013 09:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: the US would have some of the world's hottest chicks if a massive famine were to strike. The sheer diversity has created a massive pool of ingredients and potential permutations.

And then you have the other side of RVF saying that diversity and multiculturalism is what is bringing the world down.

Beware the rebound. Having seen a good few real-life examples of big weight reduction and huge image increase, I am unaware of any one that did not rebound after marriage, or even non-marriage LTR. Inquire "let me see pics of you when you were younger" before even considering an LTR.

(02-08-2013 09:15 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 09:11 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  One of my favorite examples, check out this former fatty turned hot ass fitness chick.

And that's thing: you'd get in trouble with not-just-delusional-feminists for calling that chick fat in the before picture. That's how far we've come.

I'd consider her before pic more chubby than full on fatty (though it's close)... She at least didn't look bloated and her curves weren't misshapen or anything. Some chicks hold weight better than others.
As a guy who likes curvacious asses and hips, I do sometimes find it odd when dudes around me call certain chicks fat. I guess it's all relative.

BUT, all that being said...

It is undeniably getting pretty goddamn 1984 as far as the use of the word "fat" goes. Like Roosh said (I think), calling men fat or ugly is just fine, but calling women fat or ugly (even or especially if they PLAINLY are) is being treated like a capital offense.

I've pointed out before how incredible the positive effect on SMV can be when women just lose some fucking weight and put minor effort into their appearance.

That last chick in the blue bikini is the best example. I mean, are you kidding me? That chick went from like a 2.5 to a 9, for the price of some discipline in her diet and exercise routine, a spray tan, make-up and a pair of fake tits. A snarky feminist would say something like, "Oh, is that it?" to which I would say: yeah, that's it. Compare the personal and financial costs of what this girl did (a year of self discipline and $5k for a pair of tits) with what a man would have to do to upgrade his SMV from a 2.5 to a 9. It's not even remotely comparable, in fact, short of a chode guy swallowing the red pill with gusto and winning the Powerball in the same year, I would dare say it's impossible.

Meanwhile, any fat girl who isn't deformed looking or comically obese can add at least 3 points to their SMV with minimal effort over the course of a single year.

(02-08-2013 09:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: the US would have some of the world's hottest chicks if a massive famine were to strike. The sheer diversity has created a massive pool of ingredients and potential permutations. If dudes stopped putting up with all the bullshit overnight--and lay down the necessary regulations and correctives--we could revamp them from the inside too.

Will it happen? No.

Thank you.

If the fatties dissapear the quality of woman would just skyrocket.
The U.S has the most complex varieties of mixing that has ever existed in a civilization.

If you just removed the weight problem out of this country, U.S would be a great Utopia to all men.

I've always thought that most girls 18-22 would be fuckable if they were thin and took good care of themselves.

Yeah underneath many of the millions of digustingly overweight women in America is a hot chick waiting to bust out.

(02-08-2013 09:25 PM)scorpion Wrote:  I've pointed out before how incredible the positive effect on SMV can be when women just lose some fucking weight and put minor effort into their appearance.

That last chick in the blue bikini is the best example. I mean, are you kidding me? That chick went from like a 2.5 to a 9, for the price of some discipline in her diet and exercise routine, a spray tan, make-up and a pair of fake tits. A snarky feminist would say something like, "Oh, is that it?" to which I would say: yeah, that's it. Compare the personal and financial costs of what this girl did (a year of self discipline and $5k for a pair of tits) with what a man would have to do to upgrade his SMV from a 2.5 to a 9. It's not even remotely comparable, in fact, short of a chode guy swallowing the red pill with gusto and winning the Powerball in the same year, I would dare say it's impossible.

Meanwhile, any fat girl who isn't deformed looking or comically obese can add at least 3 points to their SMV with minimal effort over the course of a single year.

It really is amazing. Most girls have the potential to be straight-up hot when young. Before they start to hit the wall at 25-28, all they have to do is not be fat and dress with a little bit of feminine charm, and they'll probably be gorgeous. Even with less than perfect skin or face, a little bit of makeup can make a huge difference. I feel no guilt whatsoever about ridiculing or ignoring ugly girls, because it is entirely their fault. The girls who were ugly hags 50 years ago would be highly sought after today, simply because most of their competition are now whales.

(02-08-2013 09:39 PM)Ensam Wrote:  I've always thought that most girls 18-22 would be fuckable if they were thin and took good care of themselves.

(02-08-2013 09:54 PM)Ovid Wrote:  It really is amazing. Most girls have the potential to be straight-up hot when young. Before they start to hit the wall at 25-28, all they have to do is not be fat and dress with a little bit of feminine charm, and they'll probably be gorgeous. Even with less than perfect skin or face, a little bit of makeup can make a huge difference. I feel no guilt whatsoever about ridiculing or ignoring ugly girls, because it is entirely their fault. The girls who were ugly hags 50 years ago would be highly sought after today, simply because most of their competition are now whales.

Both of you are exactly right here, in fact, it could not be any other way, or else the human race wouldn't have survived.

Consider that for most of human history, there was no such thing as makeup, perfume, push-up bras, plastic surgery, etc... In fact, for most of human history young women were walking around with hairy ass armpits, pussies and legs! And yet guys still found them attractive enough to fuck the hell out of them for thousands of years. Why? Because the sight of a healthy young woman's naked body is enough to arose, regardless of how little makeup she's got on or how hairy she is.

Our ancestors may have been fucking a bunch of hairy ass butterfaces, but they didn't care, because those cavewoman had some banging bodies that were sufficient to pass the caveman boner test.

But now, even with all these advances that women can use to improve their appearance, the majority of women let themselves go. It's pathetic.

does anyone have advice for gaming fitness chicks? I'm thinking this is the way to go especially for older guys

I'm thinking of an America where the fat bitches are made fun of and treated like shit like it was when I was in school. There was a time when a girl wasn't worshiped just because she was skinny. It was expected of them.

(02-08-2013 11:35 PM)gamepadawan Wrote:  does anyone have advice for gaming fitness chicks? I'm thinking this is the way to go especially for older guys

I second this request.

Fitness chick just got added to my sexual bucket list.

(02-08-2013 09:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  A lotta guys would see their raw no-game assisted #'s improve of they lost their double chins and pudginess.

WIA

No better feelin than a woman giving me a massage and saying they love my muscles.

What's more fun for a masseuse, massaging thick fat or massaging lean muscles?

(02-09-2013 11:22 AM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

Worst kinda fat chicks, get fat, but boobs stay small.

The other hidden advantage here is that as a fat chick, she probably developed some great BJ skills.

WIA

(02-08-2013 09:19 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 09:08 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: the US would have some of the world's hottest chicks if a massive famine were to strike. The sheer diversity has created a massive pool of ingredients and potential permutations.

And then you have the other side of RVF saying that diversity and multiculturalism is what is bringing the world down.

Nah, just multiculturalism. Not multiracialism. At least that's my thoughts.

Anyway, this ain't a race thread, so back to the issue at hand...Yep, many a hot chick can be made out of a fatty who puts in a bit of effort.

Funny how much work they put into trying to change the "beauty standards", when in most cases, a little bit less than a year of simple action can take them from a 3 to a 7 or 8 (sometimes even higher), thus allowing them access to the commitment of a real alpha. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but hey, I use logic to get through the day.

(02-09-2013 12:45 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-09-2013 11:22 AM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

Worst kinda fat chicks, get fat, but boobs stay small.

The other hidden advantage here is that as a fat chick, she probably developed some great BJ skills.

WIA

Great term coined by Opie and Anthony for those chicks: flatsos.

(02-08-2013 09:54 PM)Ovid Wrote:  It really is amazing. Most girls have the potential to be straight-up hot when young. Before they start to hit the wall at 25-28, all they have to do is not be fat and dress with a little bit of feminine charm, and they'll probably be gorgeous. Even with less than perfect skin or face, a little bit of makeup can make a huge difference. I feel no guilt whatsoever about ridiculing or ignoring ugly girls, because it is entirely their fault. The girls who were ugly hags 50 years ago would be highly sought after today, simply because most of their competition are now whales.

"There are no ugly women, only lazy ones."