Post: #26

(02-08-2013 11:07 PM)RichieP Wrote:  That would be a huge overreaction to what happened.

Jaylows + TheMans responses are the kind of thing that would fit. Him = playful but overstepping, so Me = playful but not-to-be-fucked-with. Not "I'm going to rape your mother till her guts fall out", haha.

Why not? If a man slaps me, even playfully, unless he's my best friend whom I've known for years, I'm probably going to serve him a knuckle sandwich. That's unacceptable behavior on his part, and I don't know any man who would put up with it. And I'm a pretty easygoing guy, not the type to get into fights. From the sound of it, your "too serious" verbal response was just right. He backed off and probably won't ever do that again to anyone. Even if he's just an "immature young college kid," those punks need to learn what's up before they try to slap the wrong guy and get bones broken. Look on it as a public service.

Post: #27

You're asking us what to do if a random guy lightly slaps you in a bar? Is this a serious thread Why are you so scared to tell us what you did to scare him?

Post: #28

who says "bratty" these days? gayest sounding word i've heard this year.

Post: #29

Look at it from the girls POV from across the room who only sees what happened, not heard a word from either of you. She sees a dude walk up to you and bitch slap you across the face and you do shit about it. Who does she want to fuck? He put on a show, you looked like a punk despite your oh so harsh words.

Someone wants to use me to get laid, and touches my face, he is getting put the fuck down and I dont care how large his crew of faggots are. Someone slaps me and I am either grabbing him by the throat with 1 hand and my other hand balled up in a fist right in front of his face or I am backhanding him so hard that he takes 2 steps backwards. He puts on a show, I put on twice the show in retaliation. 90% of the time the dude at the bar doesnt want to fight you, hes just putting on a act to look tough.

Post: #30

(02-08-2013 08:50 PM)RichieP Wrote:  I have trouble shrugging them off - they really do get to me, and I react in one of two ways:

-Say something way overly harsh, not gonna repeat it here lol but something over the top. And then I'm concerned about having gone too far, and I'm on edge afterwards.

-Or if he looks genuinely big and tough, I just get pissed off and dismiss, but seethe after.

Both of this things are super gay seriously it looks like you need to work on your inner game. Doesnt matter if youre 19, 11 or 80 years old, respect comes first, even if your dealing with lifetime friends. And in no way you can intimidate him verbally, either do something about it, or shut up and get your ass in the gym until you can.

On another note since we are dealing with this type of stuff, what to do when you caught a guy staring at you and then look away laughing, like he is thinking " Check out this guy what an idiot" i realize that im bigger than most guys now, 190 lbs plus i can fight, so it really gets on my nerves when some piece of shit does this to me, and i get this urge to go up and bitch slap him till he tries to do something. This is most likely an ego thing but still, i'm not a bully nor a violent guy. So what to do... is this beta?

Post: #31

I am with scorpion on this one. I wouldn't even hesitate to grab him by his hair and slam his face into the bar. If no bar around or he has no hair I would crack him in the throat. I don't care if he was twice the size of me. If you are physical touched than a physical response is necessary. Otherwise it will escalate later on in the night.

I have lost a few bar fights in my day, but I can walk around with my head held high because I have never backed down.

Post: #32

Heres how I see it.

A slap in the face is massively disrespectful. Fact.

Punching somebody in the face- way too much action for this little disrespect. Not worth the hassle...
Bitching somebody out and losing your cool- not desirable. It like going into battle mode. Full adrenaline and I want to f-ing kill you.
Doing nothing- Probably the best approach, but cowardly/ego-hurting.

My friend had a good way of dealing w/ppl f-cking w/him.

He put his finger in their face and raised his voice- HEY YOU, do that again and I will F-CKING kill you. Then silence w/pure hatred and animosity. Angry but collected.



Freaking hysterical. This guy is max 150 lbs, shoving his finger in this 200+ lb dude's face. The 200lb lb dude didnt even know what to say. lol. 2 mins later, we are partying it up w/the ladies. All forgotten.

Edit- Disclaimer- this should be only for western countries. Do this in Russia, and youll get shanked or shot. Same goes for much of Asia. Strangely enough, most ppl dont mess w/other ppl there, because there are real consequences to actions.

Post: #33

Alot of people recommending violence/threats here.

But would you throw down if someone patted you on the back just a lil too hard? That was the vibe of this situ. He didn't walk up to me, slap me and laugh, lol. He lightly patted me on the cheek, the way arabs/russians do to their friends. Something mates do to each other, except, he wasn't my mate.

Maybe guys dont have this type of one-up-manship in the US, and that's why your responses are IMO over the top. Come to the UK or Australia and you see it all the time. It's rugby culture. Guys try to get one over by backslapping abit too hard, putting their arms around someones shoulder to "tell them how it is", etc. This was the same. Light AMOGging. In hindsight, I should have said "lightly patted" not "slapped".

and houston: because Roosh doesn't delete posts, and I don't want down in writing on the internet forever. Use your imagination.

DVY: you're right, people just don't do that in Asia. That's one of the things I like about clubs there.

Post: #34

This thread needs more fisto.

Post: #35

Post: #36

RichieP you think you may be giving a weak vibe? Do you work out a lot? You doing any martial arts?

As others have said, slapping on your face (even a light slap) is disrespectful and you shouldnt let that slide.

You always should react. Even if you just threat him and dont throw a punch, this way you wont look like a punk to your girl or even to yourself.

A lot of big guys are pussies. Soon as you react, they will back down, i have seen that happening way too many times.

Post: #37

(02-09-2013 11:17 AM)pitt Wrote:  RichieP you think you may be giving a weak vibe? Do you work out a lot? You doing any martial arts?

As others have said, slapping on your face (even a light slap) is disrespectful and you shouldnt let that slide.

You always should react. Even if you just threat him and dont throw a punch, this way you wont look like a punk to your girl or even to yourself.

A lot of big guys are pussies. Soon as you react, they will back down, i have seen that happening way too many times.

Exactly. He's demeaning you to give him an advantage in the eyes of some skank. That's unacceptable. It's not to say that you should bottle him, but a reaction of some sort that says that's not acceptable in your eyes is required.

Post: #38

(02-08-2013 08:54 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  Punch him in the stomach "playfully" or my personal favorite, take your right hand and point at your left shoulder, then backhand him.

Hahahaha you made me laugh out loud at that one

Post: #39

You have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's a drunk idiot, who is not intentionally disrespecting you. However, you have to make sure - for your own safety. So what I would do is put my left arm around his neck in a head lock type position to sort of immobilize him, while keeping your b*tch hand free. Then I would simply ask the guy, "what's up bro?". Based on his response, and your strong body language and control of the situation (i.e., his neck), I imagine things would calm down. And who know's maybe you'd make friends and he'd turn out to be your new puppy dog (which is generally what bullies turn into once you've called their bluff).

But I think you have to address the situation immediately, otherwise your night is ruined because it's all you'll be able to think about.

Post: #40

take your dick out and threaten him with it.

Post: #41

(02-08-2013 10:56 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

There is no possible verbal response to being face slapped by a random guy that could remotely be out of line.

If you told him you were going to fuck his mother's pussy until her guts fell out then strangle him to death with them, you'd still be falling short of the reasonable response. Which is immediately physical retaliation in most cases.

But, I will respectfully bow out of your thread now, since there's nothing else constructive I can say.

Good luck, I hope this does not happen to you in the future.

Lol funny cause it's true. OP is so far gone he isn't getting it.

Post: #42

Lets go easy on RichieP. Dude is one of the best contributors here and i doubt that he is a punk.

Post: #43

(02-09-2013 12:01 PM)pitt Wrote:  Lets go easy on RichieP. Dude is one of the best contributors here and i doubt that he is a punk.

Thanks. I dont have a weak vibe, but I don't have a tough or intimidating one, either. I'm tall and athletic, but not rugby-bulky anymore. When this happened, I opened a girl in his social circle and he was dancing with his chick. He turned around, waved at me for a high five and lightly patted me on the cheek. As if to say "well done, keep trying"

Slap was the wrong word, and guys are clearly getting their panties in a twist over it.

Anyway, I think this thread has reached it's natural end. Thanks to everyone who contributed useful advice, no thanks to the "just bottle him bro" internet tough guys.

Post: #44

To violently hit a guy for a horseplay slap would be a gross over-reaction. Yeah, in your mind you might think "he's getting what he deserves" but it will be social fucking suicide (unless you already have that venue locked down, which you probably don't if you're horseplayed by strangers). Everyone - venue, girls, bystanders - will take the side of the joking-around guy that you suddenly lost your temper at and you're gonna be labeled the wild caveman beast who can't control his emotions and physicality.

It's basically a shit-test from a guy, he feels a little superiority over you for whatever reason - great mood, lots of friends in the venue, drugs, etc - and is just shit-testing you. When a girl shit-tests you, do you get all butthurt and take it personally? Only if you want to NEVER EVER fuck that girl. When a guy shit-tests you, take it all in stride just the same as a girl shit-test.

Be cool. If you have to be reactive, respond in kind. Respond to shit-testing horseplay with shit-testing horseplay and you'll probably be accepted into the little group, "ah yeah, this guy's cool! he can take a joke and know how to joke around!"

Post: #45

(02-09-2013 01:13 PM)guerrilla Wrote:  To violently hit a guy for a horseplay slap would be a gross over-reaction. Yeah, in your mind you might think "he's getting what he deserves" but it will be social fucking suicide (unless you already have that venue locked down, which you probably don't if you're horseplayed by strangers). Everyone - venue, girls, bystanders - will take the side of the joking-around guy that you suddenly lost your temper at and you're gonna be labeled the wild caveman beast who can't control his emotions and physicality.

It's basically a shit-test from a guy, he feels a little superiority over you for whatever reason - great mood, lots of friends in the venue, drugs, etc - and is just shit-testing you. When a girl shit-tests you, do you get all butthurt and take it personally? Only if you want to NEVER EVER fuck that girl. When a guy shit-tests you, take it all in stride just the same as a girl shit-test.

Be cool. If you have to be reactive, respond in kind. Respond to shit-testing horseplay with shit-testing horseplay and you'll probably be accepted into the little group, "ah yeah, this guy's cool! he can take a joke and know how to joke around!"

Boom. Someone who gets it. Cheers

Post: #46

(02-08-2013 09:11 PM)RichieP Wrote:  

(02-08-2013 09:08 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  Someone slapped you in the face? How come you didn't fight him?

read my description of it - not that kind of situation at all - wasn't being "tooled hard" by any stretch. As I said, it's a venue of young kids (18-21) and this sort of thing happens in those places... I've seen it dozens of times. Some guy gets a little rowdy and starts taking liberties, being friendly on the surface but just going a lil over the line to show off.

I think he is saying that because the guy invaded your space and touched your face in a really disrespectful way.

I had a Brazilian friend who did that to me all the time. When I visited him in Brazil he still did it. One day we were drunk, he did it again and I punched him hard. The next day he told me we got into a fight. I said, "Nah man, we were just playing." He doesn't like to play that way any more.

Edit: I concur with the posters on the thread - any man who touches you on the face who is a stranger is disrespecting you. With friends it's harder to tell.

What it seems is that - there's joking around and there's disrespect. It's kind of hard to tell if the guy is joking around or being a disrespectful punk coward who is hiding behind plausible deniability, like a woman. I detest such.

Post: #47

I guess some guys are ok with getting randomly bitch slapped in bars by strangers. My hamster isn't down with it, but to each is his own. Carry on gents.

Post: #48

Slap him back IMMEDIATELY (slightly harder, but still playful). Big goofy smile on your face (but steel in your gut) - "i LOVE the slapping game!".

If you hesitate, it's not going to work. You can use variations for other kinds of horseplay, but the key is to do it IMMEDIATELY, not delay, then try and do something dickish after the moment has passed. His escalation has just given you a free pass to whack him harder than he whacked you and call it a game.

If he's stronger than you, you can just tool him with wit, but if you're physically dominant, USE it.

Post: #49

What country did it happen in this?

Post: #50

Two things I don't get;

Why is it such a big deal for the OP to just type out what he said? Someone is going to search the net for it. Please......

And, did he get the broad or did the punk's disrespectful move blow him out of the punk's social circle?

I guarantee her in the states some guy slaps, taps, whatever your face you will lose the respect/attraction of the broad if you don't do something that at least forces an immediate apology.