Post: #26

(05-12-2010 09:03 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Some of it is new girls = exciting.

You don’t see Russians on this forum saying how exciting it is to experience American women. All they do here is tell us they came for a short period, found the women to be surprisingly unbearable, and ran home, followed by condolences to American guys.

Foreign countries offer better girls for less effort. That’s it.

Post: #27

(05-12-2010 01:20 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  In my opinion, here's the difference, everything else being equal (looks, money, education, etc), as you can find equivalent girls, on paper, everywhere. Despite what anyone else may say, there are very hot women in North America.
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Lack of a certain 'softness' in both their personality and their approach to sex (not needed all the time with sex, but she's lacking if the ability isnt there).

I could go on. Unfortunately, it doesnt matter how good looking a woman is, as she will likely exhibit one or more of these behaviors if she's from North America.

+1 for clear diagnosis.

I've commented on this but not as well or in as detailed a way before.

There is a tragic combativeness in many girls with perfect skin, bone structure, and lovely coloring. They have a look on their faces like a young punk who's thinking "Who are YOU looking at?!" , a young guy who wants to FIGHT!! What a waste...

However, at least here in NorCal ( not SF) there is a resulting supply of women who feel ignored because guys are intimidated by the low-grade diffuse anger of a lot of girls.

They gently flirt, it's just a lot of the time I'm so put off by the bitchy ones I don't notice it...

Post: #28

(06-07-2013 08:57 PM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2010 09:03 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Some of it is new girls = exciting.

You don’t see Russians on this forum saying how exciting it is to experience American women. All they do here is tell us they came for a short period, found the women to be surprisingly unbearable, and ran home, followed by condolences to American guys.

Foreign countries offer better girls for less effort. That’s it.

Haha. Reminds me of an old joke. I'm paraphrasing, so if anyone knows the real wording feel free to chime in.

An Italian man tell his friend his daughter is marrying an American man. "You have my congratulations!" says his friend. Then the Italian mentions his son is marrying an American woman. "You have my condolences," says the friend.

Post: #29

In my opinion...there is truth to it, but it's also sort of myth that many guys simply want to believe in. There's basket case foreign women out there as well.

For example, there are American women out there who have not been affected by all the feminist BS. The main problem is, the ratios in the US aren't good for men. A woman above a 5 knows she always has another option waiting around the corner. Social media has only made what was already very easy for them (meeting men) - even easier.

Because of these ratios, fat/unattractive women in the US act like they're hot. They can, because there are enough desperate "normal" dudes out there that will pursue them. A lot of them complain men only want to fuck them, but won't date them. They should be happy men are interested in them in the first place.

If the ratios were reversed, and if there were more single women available in the 18-40 bracket, they wouldn't act like this. Western culture gets blamed too much when it's really supply & demand doing most of the damage.

Post: #30

(06-04-2013 07:21 PM)Baobab Wrote:  Yes, I can confirm the fact America has really bad quality of women. I never thought about it and I think I can be objective. I lived all my life in Russia and only moved to the US 2 years ago to go to school.
My impression from being in a big American university for 2 years.

1. Girls are not happy when they meet a new guy. In Russia, if you have a class together and talk to a girl next to you, she is happy you made the effort to meet her, she will be friendly and show it. In the US, most of them are busy looking at their stupid Iphones in pink cases and they wanna go back to texting as soon as you two are done talking.

2. I might be wrong but the girls have the upper hand in interactions. or at least try to. They are more likely to cancel a meeting, be late, etc. This is just wrong and I felt bad. One time a girl cancelled the date 10 mins before the arranged time. I told her she doesn't have any manners and she should've let me know earlier. She deleted me from friends on FB and avoids me whenever possible. I don't care, but several of my Russian girl friends said they would apologize and make up for it when I told the whole story.

3. Girls in my university (around 25 000 students, public, South) are way below what you would see in the same size university in Russia. Not only sweatpants, no make up and bad clothing in general, but I think genetically Russian women are just beautiful. I only realized it after I moved abroad, it's not just a stereotype. Russian girls are beautiful. Sorry, everybody else, haha.

4. American girls are hard to talk to about anything meaningful. Whatever you talk about, there are very few subjects they are interested in. I recently went out with some Russian girls who live in New York. I was shocked at how interested they were and how easy it is to keep the conversation going. The same with Colombians, unless they have been here long enough to be brainwashed and become Americanized.

5. In American culture, especially college age people, there is constant competition. In poorer countries people boast with their money, jobs are cars. Honestly, in the US people are modest about their money but all the competition is about who has the coolest life. This is what Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and all this other crap is for. People have to tell everybody else about the slightest fun thing they do to increase their status.

I always felt like girls tried to estimate me - how many friends I have, what parties I go to, etc, etc. I was always thinking - "Who the hell are you to judge my life? It's probably way more fun than yours, and yet, you are trying to give me an estimate? Go to hell".

I can go forever. I am leaving this country, partly because I can't deal with American girls anymore. They are ugly, boring and superficial. Every slight interaction with Russian or Latino girls still shows me how bad it is in the US. I am going to Colombia in 10 days. The only place I love here in New York, because it has the most foreigners.

My condolences to all American guys.

Truth. Spot on observations, including the comment about NY. Occasionally I see an attractive feminine girl in the Bay area who smiles back when you look at her. Invariably they are Russian girls.

Post: #31

A lot of good stuff in this thread, but I agree with Sargon of Arkaad that there's way too much generalization going on about "foreign girls." It's a big world out there, with lots of different cultures. For instance, women from most Asian countries are unlikely to, as Days of Broken Arrows put it, walk around a college dorm with their shirt off or debate with you and then have a drink like one of the guys. That sounds more like European women rather than foreign broads in general.

(06-05-2013 01:20 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  This title of this whole thread sounds kind of America-centric, almost as though the diversity of the world's cultures/women could be divided into simply "American" and "non-American".

Two women from two different countries can differ at least as much from each other as they can from an American woman.

Come here to Japan, for example, and you as an American are just as foreign in the eyes of the local population as a Russian or a Pakistani.

Which foreign women are you talking about? Russian? Danish? Korean? British? Brazilian? German?

(06-07-2013 01:47 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  8. Foreign women are cool with nudity. I'll never forget a female exchange student from Germany I knew in college, Sylvie, who would often hang in her dorm room topless. Until her uptight, feminist, lacrosse-playing roommate complained to the RA and Sylvie was forced to cover herself. I don't need to say anymore here -- let that serve as an allegory.

9. Foreign women don't act like everything is a battle. Foreign women will debate you, then have a drink with you -- just like guys will.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
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Post: #32

(06-07-2013 08:57 PM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2010 09:03 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Some of it is new girls = exciting.

You don’t see Russians on this forum saying how exciting it is to experience American women. All they do here is tell us they came for a short period, found the women to be surprisingly unbearable, and ran home, followed by condolences to American guys.

Foreign countries offer better girls for less effort. That’s it.

As a Russian, i can say this is not entirely true. There's a lot to America. For example, there are so many Russian chicks in the New York area that my dick will wear off before I fuck 0.1% of them.

Post: #33

I love American women.

Half the complaints or negative traits listed here are simply a reflection of the fact that American girls have options.

The only fair complaint IMO is the obesity problem which is tragic.

Post: #34

The generalising in this thread is ridiculous.

"American girls can't have an interesting convo."

I have them on a daily basis with random girls.

"Russians are genetically superior"

What? Than the most ethnically diverse country on earth?

Etc etc

Post: #35

One last point-

Be different and stand out.

As we all know this to be true. It Is why you can get better girls, on average, when you are different or stand out amongst the locals somewhat.

This obviously doesn't apply in all instances. Certain nationalities don't play we'll in certain countries.

Post: #36

(06-11-2013 12:14 AM)Jbk Wrote:  I love American women.

Half the complaints or negative traits listed here are simply a reflection of the fact that American girls have options.

The only fair complaint IMO is the obesity problem which is tragic.

You only love them because they love your accent, and perhaps b/c they are slightly better than UK girls. The options factor is due to unrestrained feminism and hypergamy, which exists in your country too.

Lol at hypergamy being underlined for a spelling error

Post: #37

(06-07-2013 08:57 PM)Atilla Wrote:  

(05-12-2010 09:03 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  Some of it is new girls = exciting.

You don’t see Russians on this forum saying how exciting it is to experience American women. All they do here is tell us they came for a short period, found the women to be surprisingly unbearable, and ran home, followed by condolences to American guys.

Foreign countries offer better girls for less effort. That’s it.

Yeah, except I didn't run back, I just went to Medellin, Colombia, and I am enjoying it a lot here.

Post: #38

And I am not saying Russia is superior in any way. The United States is a great country. But the women are more beautiful in Russia. Argue all you want, it's just a fact.

Post: #39

As most of you probably know, the best ones are just fresh off the boat and have not been ruined by their new american girlfriends. After that it's a 50/50 chance...they'll either stay like they are or get ruined by their new female friends.

Post: #40

(06-08-2013 03:54 AM)DiorHomme Wrote:  Western culture gets blamed too much when it's really supply & demand doing most of the damage.

Yeah, it's not like there's some wicked witch that cast a spell only on Ameribitches.

Too much wealth= too many fatties = 6+ type girls knowing they can get a true YoungTallCool.

The only way for me to combat it is to greatly increase the supply of my approaches, which will increase the supply of responses.

Post: #41

From the way people refer here to American women, it would seem to someone who hasn't been there that there's zero chance of meeting a decent girl. Is it that bleak? I've been in LA and it's certainly not a piece of cake (And over time, I see less and less hot women) but I haven't had any bad experience. How is it really? What are the expectations for a girl, especially after being in SE-Asia or Industrial Ukraine or Wallachian/Moldavian Romania?

Post: #42

(06-23-2013 02:26 AM)Volk Wrote:  From the way people refer here to American women, it would seem to someone who hasn't been there that there's zero chance of meeting a decent girl. Is it that bleak? I've been in LA and it's certainly not a piece of cake (And over time, I see less and less hot women) but I haven't had any bad experience. How is it really? What are the expectations for a girl, especially after being in SE-Asia or Industrial Ukraine or Wallachian/Moldavian Romania?

Overall, the quality in the US is mediocre, but it can be good in some cities (Chicago, Tampa etc) or even really good in the top party cities (NYC, Miami)

Post: #43

(06-11-2013 12:14 AM)Jbk Wrote:  Half the complaints or negative traits listed here are simply a reflection of the fact that American girls have options.

People generally can’t seem to defend American women without resorting to feminist-style arguments because only through absolute delusion could anyone honestly believe that hot girls in foreign countries don’t have options at home.

Post: #44

(06-11-2013 12:20 AM)Jbk Wrote:  "Russians are genetically superior"

What? Than the most ethnically diverse country on earth?

Etc etc

That's a big reason as to why Russian girls are physically superior.
A lot of the minority races in the US have lower sexual dimorphism than North Europeans, this is a big factor in determining the level of feminine beauty.

Post: #45

(06-23-2013 02:26 AM)Volk Wrote:  From the way people refer here to American women, it would seem to someone who hasn't been there that there's zero chance of meeting a decent girl. Is it that bleak? I've been in LA and it's certainly not a piece of cake (And over time, I see less and less hot women) but I haven't had any bad experience. How is it really? What are the expectations for a girl, especially after being in SE-Asia or Industrial Ukraine or Wallachian/Moldavian Romania?

Among the US upper classes, there are still a vast number of high-quality women.
As you travel down the socio-economic ladder, it's a sea of out of shape, iphone-clutching, inane, KFC consuming, Kardashian-worshipping girls who possess the egos of a 17th century princess.

The countries you mention have endured socialism/political turmoil/social upheaval in recent generations. A pleasant result of this is that high-quality women are not merely a preserve of those belonging to wealthy families.

To the Western love tourist, this means less work, less financial expenditure and less ego-induced stress than would be associated with an American girl.

Post: #46

Foreign girls are so much better. I've been living in Japan for a few years now and every day I'm amazed at the quality of the women. They're the flake queens of the world, but they don't sleep around much, they pay their share, they wear high heels all the time, they always try to look their best, and they'll do nice things for you even before you bang them. I'd go as far as to say a Japanese 7 is an American 9.

Post: #47

(06-11-2013 12:14 AM)Jbk Wrote:  I love American women.

Whenever I hear this it's from a British guy.

Post: #48

It depends where and of what descent in USA. In my opinion, 1st and 2nd generation Americans (meaning immigrants who have become naturalized, kids who were born abroad but now live in the US and have citizenship or those born here of immigrant parents) generally tend to be more down to Earth. Maybe it's because they or their families had to struggle a bit to get here. They also tend to have more traditional values. Communities I'm talking about are Latinos, Eastern Europeans (mainly Poles, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians) and some Southeast Asians. They are much easier to break into in smaller towns and/or cities. I've found that these same groups of people when they are in large cities, i.e. LA or NYC, tend to become very cliquish with their own group, which makes sense because they're more of them. Try getting with a Russian in NYC and you have to deal with her whole mafia-type network of friends. Try the same with one in Omaha, NE and you have a much better chance since there are relatively fewer of them and chances are she has a more diverse set of friends, making her more openminded.