Post: #1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-21265337

Quote:Two women who tortured a retired bus conductor and left him to die have been found guilty of his murder.

Drug addicts Jodie Barnes, 31, and Kelly Barnes, 32, were convicted at Norwich Crown Court of murdering Barry Reeve, 67, at his Norwich home.

The pair, who are civil partners, believed he had hidden money and tortured him in an attempt to make him reveal his Pin code, the court heard.

The women were jailed for life and told they would serve at least 24 years.

Both had denied murder, blaming the other for the killing.
'Forgiven by God'

But a jury of eight women and four men found them guilty after five hours of deliberation.

The court heard Mr Reeve lay dying for up to 48 hours after the attack, during which he was punched, stamped on and slashed with a knife.

Members of Mr Reeve's family wept as the verdict was delivered.
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Serious, deep incised cuts were made to both cheeks and to his stomach”

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Jodie Barnes, formerly Ramsbottom, who claimed during the trial that "God had forgiven her", clutched a Bible and looked stunned.

Kelly Barnes shook her head and looked towards her partner. The pair whispered to each other before Jodie Barnes broke down in tears.

Prosecuting counsel Karim Khalil QC had told the court Mr Reeve was savagely beaten and his face and torso scored with a sharp blade.

"Both of these defendants went to his home uninvited. He was alive when they arrived and was left dying when they departed," he said.

The jury was told the pair returned to the house in Corton Road after the attack on 9 February last year and stripped it of anything of value, including food from the freezer.
Barry Reeve The body of Barry Reeve, 67, was discovered in a house in Norwich

Mr Reeve's daughter Julie said she called the emergency services after finding the back door to her father's home unlocked, blood on an inner door and no answer when she called his name.

As sentence was passed, Jodie Barnes shouted: "I didn't lie, I swore on the Bible."

Jailing them Judge Peter Jacobs told the women: "The man who you killed was frail, old and vulnerable and lived on his own.

"His income was limited, he may or may not have had money.

"Both of you have previous convictions for violence and lived chaotic lifestyles.

"As a result of the attack, Mr Reeve was kicked, stamped upon and punched, then put to the ground in a semi-comatose state but he was sufficiently conscious to be able to give you information.
'Grotesque situation'

"Some form of kitchen knife was used to cut this man. Serious, deep incised cuts were made to both cheeks and to his stomach.

"A forensic pathologist said the obvious: those cuts were made to get information, probably both his Pin number and any information about what was in the property.

"It was a grotesque situation that he was lying there slowly dying and you were going around his property, stepping over and around his body and stealing his property."

He said Mr Reeve's "mental and physical suffering" aggravated the crime, and added: "You were totally indifferent as to whether he lived or died."

Jonathan Goodman, for Kelly Barnes, told the court it had not been a pre-meditated attack.

Jodie Barnes's barrister, Graham Arnold, said: "There was no intention to kill. It is distressing that he was left to die in the way that he was, but there was no attempt to finish him off."

Post: #2

(01-31-2013 10:15 AM)bojangles Wrote:  Jodie Barnes's barrister, Graham Arnold, said: "There was no intention to kill. It is distressing that he was left to die in the way that he was, but there was no attempt to finish him off."

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Yeah - because in their logic that makes everything better. You know, besides the torture and shit.

Post: #3

Quote:The women were jailed for life and told they would serve at least 24 years.

Does anywhere in the U.K. or Europe have life without parole?

I've read tons of crime-and-punishment shit originating in Europe and it seems like a dude can commit the most heinous crimes, be sentenced to life, then be out in 20 years.

Post: #4

Europeans are civilized. They feed serial killers grey poupon and let them out after they learned their lesson.

Post: #5

(01-31-2013 11:12 AM)MSW2007 Wrote:  

Quote:The women were jailed for life and told they would serve at least 24 years.

Does anywhere in the U.K. or Europe have life without parole?

I've read tons of crime-and-punishment shit originating in Europe and it seems like a dude can commit the most heinous crimes, be sentenced to life, then be out in 20 years.

Not in the EU,no. Prisoners,even sadistic murdering cunts have to have 'rights'. The EU is currently trying to bring in a rule forcing the UK government to allow prisoners to have the vote whilst serving their sentence. It's a piss take. Life does not mean life in the EU. Believe me the lax rules on sentencing vexes law abiding citizens of the UK as much as it dumbfounds you.

Post: #6

I think that they should be given a one way ticket to Cleveland.

Post: #7

Europe can great place to be a serial killer depending on which country you're in. Do you dirty deeds in your early 20's, spend about 25 years behind bars and get out and repeat Wasn't it Norway where that guy went loco and shot up a bunch of people? I remember reading an article about the prison where he went to and it looks like a fucking YMCA with flat screens and cable.

Post: #8

(02-01-2013 01:29 AM)houston Wrote:  Europe can great place to be a serial killer depending on which country you're in. Do you dirty deeds in your early 20's, spend about 25 years behind bars and get out and repeat Wasn't it Norway where that guy went loco and shot up a bunch of people? I remember reading an article about the prison where he went to and it looks like a fucking YMCA with flat screens and cable.

I remember that, there was a thread somewhere here on RVF about it.

Those prisoners had nicer digs than probably most of Europe's law-abiding population.

Post: #9

That sort of madness is all down to the european court of human rights. they also ruled that some convicted murderers who are serving life sentences must be provided with IVF treatment because to deny them that is to breach their "right to a private and family life".

Post: #10

Lol he got 21 years. Here's the prison he got sent to.



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/20...ded/40518/





I'm sure he'll learn his lesson in that shithole The funny thing is that liberals and lefties would make our prisons even nicer than that if it was up to them. Shit, I'd shoot up a mall if I was a bum and had nothing going for me in Norway.

Post: #11

(01-31-2013 02:09 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(01-31-2013 11:12 AM)MSW2007 Wrote:  

Quote:The women were jailed for life and told they would serve at least 24 years.

Does anywhere in the U.K. or Europe have life without parole?

I've read tons of crime-and-punishment shit originating in Europe and it seems like a dude can commit the most heinous crimes, be sentenced to life, then be out in 20 years.

Not in the EU,no. Prisoners,even sadistic murdering cunts have to have 'rights'. The EU is currently trying to bring in a rule forcing the UK government to allow prisoners to have the vote whilst serving their sentence. It's a piss take. Life does not mean life in the EU. Believe me the lax rules on sentencing vexes law abiding citizens of the UK as much as it dumbfounds you.

For a country with so many law abiding citizens, the weak penalties and poor enforcement in general make the incentives to break the rules quite high.

@Houston Holy shit that jail cell is better than my previous rat invested flat. Doesn't surprise me though, the people in council houses (projects/free housing) have better places than the median citizen here too. It's quite depressing.

Post: #12

(02-01-2013 01:40 AM)houston Wrote:  Lol he got 21 years. Here's the prison he got sent to.



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/20...ded/40518/





I'm sure he'll learn his lesson in that shithole The funny thing is that liberals and lefties would make our prisons even nicer than that if it was up to them. Shit, I'd shoot up a mall if I was a bum and had nothing going for me in Norway.

That's nicer than my barracks room in uni.

Post: #13

socialism, disgusting rotten ideology, which is the reason for magnificent homes for the criminals and dregs of society who don't want to work, whilst those who want to work but struggle on their incomes stay in rat infested 1 beds.

Post: #14

how did they get caught?

Post: #15

This whole thread looks like a scene out of Clockwork Oranage

Post: #16

(02-02-2013 04:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  This whole thread looks like a scene out of Clockwork Oranage

I kept thinking of clockwork orange the whole way reading through this thread as well.

Post: #17

Lezzers have a very high percentage of dv between theirselves, so I am not surprised. Lezzers are often very violent.

Post: #18

Can we just put these people in the ground already? If a dog's a danger to humans, you shoot the dog. Easy peasy.

As usual, Carolla says it better than I can.