Post: #26

I just watched several of Roosh's videos. I think part of the reason he speaks in a slow, concise manner is because he has been speaking to girls in Europe who are not native English speakers. I've been living abroad for about a year now and I've noticed my speech has slowed down a lot and I try to make sure each word is spoken clearly. I think girls like this style of speech because it makes them listen and they try to anticipate what you might say next.

I'm going to watch more of these and see if I can pick up some more tips.

Post: #27

That might be part of the reason.

Another reason might be that when you speak slower, it gives you authorit-ah. It lets people know they're on your time instead of you acting like you're on theirs. I learned a lesson related to this from an older black guy named Sonny worked in the same mall I did when I had a job there as a teenager.

He worked as a janitor and one day he spotted me walking into work -- and I was apparently walking too quickly for his approval. He shook his head and pulled me aside and said something like: "What the hell you doin'? That's not how you walk! You look like you're a scared little rabbit. When you walk, you cruise. Lets them know who's boss." Then he walked with me to the pizza place where I worked and we checked out all the women.

To this day, I make it a point to do things a bit slower, esp. when nice-looking women are in the vicinity. I've even gotten in the habit of taking a long pause whenever someone asks me a question. It makes them just slightly uncomfortable enough for me to gain the upper hand. I think I learned this one from watching how Luke Perry acted on the old "90210."

That said, Roosh's speech never seemed that slow to me. I just needed someplace to tell that story. Sonny was a COOL guy.

Post: #28

The rule of thumb is calibrate your speaking pace and volume to how fast and loud the other person talks to establish chemistry.

People in LA or NYC are going to talk very fast. Texans talk slower as a matter of pride, and mistrust any yankee that prattles on too fast.

Roosh in his videos is speaking to an international audience of men, many of whom are not native English speakers. He's not trying to pick us up. I'm sure he calibrates to women when he wants to. He probably also screens with it to determine if a woman is worth further attention.

Some people just piss you off with how they talk. If you reflect upon it afterwards, cadence and volume differences are usually why.

A basic phone skill is matching the cadence speed of the other person. Some people after they've established connection will start to go purposely slower or faster than the other person for effects. I'm usually not that sophisticated.

Post: #29

(05-13-2013 09:46 AM)Blackhawk Wrote:  The rule of thumb is calibrate your speaking pace and volume to how fast and loud the other person talks to establish chemistry.

is that book worth reading?

Post: #30

This style does well on camera. This is why even with language barriers Roosh does well on these European TV shows. The quick word-chooses and tonality is important for television. You can see the though processes clearly, I was always told that the 'eye thing' in which you quickly dis-engage to collect a thought was always a view of dis-honesty. I do it often but I would feel that the tone that you present that thought would then show the authenticity of what you need to look away to process.

But to me IMO people whom look you dead in the eye and re-cite a script are more dishonest. I can see when people whom lie will re-cite a scripted line with an emotional tone while maintaining eye contact. This to me screams as false-speak.

Newspeople excel at both skills -- just odd things I notice when observing people, that's all.

Post: #31

I think this is relevant.

Speaking from a grounded position and speaking from your balls rather then throwing words out there in non-congruent and frantic ways will get you better results almost all of the time. I have a naturally deep voice and if I pay attention to my pacing and tonality, I find I carry more weight in conversations and people actually comment on my manner of speaking.

Post: #32

I dont think Roosh is talking slow because he has non-English speaking viewers on his videos. I think Roosh actually talks that way.

I too have a monotone voice and everyone who knows me knows me for my voice. It often gets me in trouble at my job since my patients dont think that I give a shit about them because I speak in a monotone.

It's reassuring to see someone like Roosh have great success with women while speaking in a low energy, monotone style. Sometimes I become self-conscious about my monotone voice when someone comments on it, otherwise I dont think about it.

It's not going away anytime soon. I have thought about tweaking it in a way to make it sound more full of energy but really havent done anything about it.

Post: #33

Adopting the "alpha pause" was the single best thing I have done to improve my speaking style

You can almost see the pussy tingle, especially on a girl who doesn't know you well

Works on guys who are giving you shit too, it's a real dominance signaling move

Post: #34

The best voice for pickup is ENGAGING voice. There's so much that we can do with the voice itself to amplify our content or to change the vibe of a conversation. Girls are sooooo zoomed in on the delivery it's crazy, they read it like it's invisible words.

We can elicit different emotions just by changing one little thing in our delivery. We can speed it up or slow it down, go louder or more quiet, talk with flat tonality or with breaking, emphasize certain syllables to make them important, etc.

Talking with flat tonality is death in my opinion

Post: #35

(05-13-2013 11:33 AM)TheBlackNarwhal Wrote:  I have a naturally deep voice and if I pay attention to my pacing and tonality, I find I carry more weight in conversations and people actually comment on my manner of speaking.

Co-sign on this. Having a deep voice doesn't mean much in itself, but once you know how to use it, it becomes a killer. If you know what a sexy, charismatic voice sounds like, all you need to do is be conscious of that while you speak until it becomes second nature. I've found I start unconsciously slipping into a sexier voice when talking to a girl or speaking in public now compared to when speaking to men. Fake it till you make it.

(08-23-2014 08:55 PM)MrXY Wrote:  Adopting the "alpha pause" was the single best thing I have done to improve my speaking style

You can almost see the pussy tingle, especially on a girl who doesn't know you well

Works on guys who are giving you shit too, it's a real dominance signaling move

Is this the 5 second pause after someone finishes speaking move? That shit is money.

Post: #36

I just posted this in the drinking wagon thread but I thought it could be a good idea to post here aswell.

Quote: Might be wrong question here, but have any of you guys lost a bit of your voice for a longer time?

I use to have a pretty deep and loud voice. but I don't know what the hell have happened but it seems like I have lost the deepness and power in the last months.

Can cutting out the alcohol have something to do with it?
I didn't really notice until now when people start to have problems with hearing me out.

People have all my life told me to shut up and don't shout, but now people are telling me to speak louder.