Post: #51

(01-24-2013 02:18 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Very true. Girls are much smarter now in every way. All game does, is level the playing field a bit. For the majority of guys out there it's rough here in the US. I feel sorry for my friends that can't leave this country. Sure, they are some top players getting girls but they are the exceptions. Guys say girls are easier today but I am not sure of this. Game is helping me meet a lot of girls and to have a casual good time but to get anything with some depth and substance is very difficult.

Are you guys saying girls were easier 30 years ago compared to today?

When I am saying girls are easier, I am meaning compared to the 90's.

No comparison in my mind. I wrote a post on it a while back: The 1990’s Girl VS The 2000’s New Millennium Girl

Post: #52

(01-23-2013 11:21 PM)rastignac Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I have a few at the gym that are staring at me, both are eastern european which is another reason I have to move back to Europe.

Yeah. That is the way it is for me to. I'm 48. The occasional times a woman smiles at me and makes eye contact in the States, it is invariably a European woman, usually Russian, anywhere between 25 and my age.

On the surface, the society is agist as well as misandrist. As a 40 something guy - even if you are successful - you need nearly perfect game in the US. Women around your age think they deserve someone a good 10 years younger. Look at the profiles on dating sites and invariably it is the women who look for mates 10-5 years younger than them. It is an inverted world.

All things said, my friends and I are in agreement. 25 is a perfect age for women. If they reach 30 without children they are forever damaged. If you need to date over 25-30, finding someone who has already had kids, you will find a much more balanced person.

Also, there is an American millennial problem. The US women of this generation have had the most privileged upbringing of any population of women (and likely any men) ever. Combined with an overwhelming sense of entitlement and bizarre sense of being wronged. From a physical point of view they are hideous. I live near a university and it is rare to see a female who is not on the path to obesity. Gen-X have actually aged better and have less of this attitude problem. My s.o. is in her mid twenties from Eastern Europe, but she shares none of the cultural baggage of millennial women in the US. She thinks they are atrocious and mocks them, observing things worse than any of the things you hear on this site.

Very pro feminist. If I say "bitch" or make fun of fat women around women my age I'm fucked socially.

Now I keep my mouth shut, placate to feminism, and accept my political views on gender relations are best expressed with a small select few.

Now I know what it is like to live under a totalitarian regime.

Thanks USA!

Post: #53

Ahab, I found this extreme when i was in Toronto, was not used to it, many women you could not even have a playful tease with, I worked in a bar and put some ice down the back of a girl it was hot busy and everyone was drunk, I was playing/teasing; she used to flirt with me at work alot, then went off at me when i did this. In the end I had to adapt, but really it just made the girls seem straight and boring.

Post: #54

(01-24-2013 08:54 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:18 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  Very true. Girls are much smarter now in every way. All game does, is level the playing field a bit. For the majority of guys out there it's rough here in the US. I feel sorry for my friends that can't leave this country. Sure, they are some top players getting girls but they are the exceptions. Guys say girls are easier today but I am not sure of this. Game is helping me meet a lot of girls and to have a casual good time but to get anything with some depth and substance is very difficult.

Are you guys saying girls were easier 30 years ago compared to today?

When I am saying girls are easier, I am meaning compared to the 90's.

No comparison in my mind. I wrote a post on it a while back: The 1990’s Girl VS The 2000’s New Millennium Girl

Good read G!

I was in high school in the 80's and man it was so much easier.
Girls would give you eye contact and you would approach, they showed there excitement. Once you got the number, which was never a wrong number and was her home number, the work was pretty much done.
Girls fell in love, they were innocent, naive, easy going and if you treated them right you were rewarded ten-fold.
I guess for older guys we just assumed it would get better, once you got older and had a car/condo/job then you would naturally meet better girls or maybe even the "wife".

Oh how I miss those days, the music, the fashion, the hairstyles and the general easy going vibe. The best was going to "dances" and feeling like a million bucks when you got to slow dance with a sexy girl.

Post: #55

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Post: #56

i'm 37. married at 26. divorced at 33. gamed hard for a couple of years but have settled into a LTR with a girl ten years younger than i am. my frame is impenetrable. i have everything i want with her. she cooks, she is submissive, she doesnt freak out when i go do my own thing, and she is down with me fucking her friends.

we had a baby but aren't married.

i've convinced her that marriage is stupid for everyone involved.

she pays for half of everything.

its pretty much an ideal situation as far as i can tell.

i used to think that dating someone ten years younger than i am was ridiculous. now i know it is the key to happiness.

Post: #57

(01-21-2013 06:56 PM)pitt Wrote:  At work I have girls 18 and up chasing, recently a 20 year old guy told the girl like "you know this guy is nearly 40 !!", trying to cockblock.

Had a young dude try cock-blocking me with the age thing a few nights ago. I let him say his piece and then turned to my target and said; Hey I like this guy…He reminds me of me when I was young and stupid.

Older Guys Game:

Be well groomed. It’s even more important for an older guy to be in shape and well dressed. Young guys can trade on their potential for future success, older guys must trade on their actual success. Look and act successful.

Never apologise for your age. Always see your age as a positive. Remember, older Men run the world and always have. Always be the first to bring the subject up. Make their age the issue. The younger they are the easier it is to turn things around and get them qualifying themselves.

Exploit your advantage. PUAs go to great lengths trying to stand out in a crowd. An Older Guy, who obviously has his shit together, is still quite a novelty and will command attention naturally.

DHOGV. Character, Wisdom and Experience, can only be obtained over time and have been highly valued throughout human history. Demonstrating these traits will appeal to a woman’s deepest primeval desires.

Post: #58

(01-21-2013 09:37 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Roosh himself is going to be 34 in a few months so where do you think this is going? I asked about an over 40 subforum about a year ago but then we would have Tenderman posting in it all the time and it would be a mess..

Really?

Notice how much I have chimed in on THIS thread?...yeah, go back and count.

I would have never considered you a myth subscriber.

Post: #59

(01-25-2013 11:41 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  i'm 37. married at 26. divorced at 33. gamed hard for a couple of years but have settled into a LTR with a girl ten years younger than i am. my frame is impenetrable. i have everything i want with her. she cooks, she is submissive, she doesnt freak out when i go do my own thing, and she is down with me fucking her friends.

we had a baby but aren't married.

i've convinced her that marriage is stupid for everyone involved.

she pays for half of everything.

its pretty much an ideal situation as far as i can tell.

i used to think that dating someone ten years younger than i am was ridiculous. now i know it is the key to happiness.

shes a keeper my friend

Post: #60

(01-25-2013 08:05 PM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 11:41 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  i'm 37. married at 26. divorced at 33. gamed hard for a couple of years but have settled into a LTR with a girl ten years younger than i am. my frame is impenetrable. i have everything i want with her. she cooks, she is submissive, she doesnt freak out when i go do my own thing, and she is down with me fucking her friends.

we had a baby but aren't married.

i've convinced her that marriage is stupid for everyone involved.

she pays for half of everything.

its pretty much an ideal situation as far as i can tell.

i used to think that dating someone ten years younger than i am was ridiculous. now i know it is the key to happiness.

shes a keeper my friend

ha, yeah i think so. she is also a bonafide 8 who lost all the baby weight in two months. she is very aware that she has to be thin and hot. she has gotten the red pill perspective hot, straight, and with no chaser.

Post: #61

I'm in my mid twenties and it's rough seeing older women.

Even ones who have nice faces and keep in shape, they're just not as attractive as younger ones.

How many of you old guys are regularly smashing women in their 30s? How many just focus on women in their early 20s.

Hell, I'm seeing a 20 year old and a 24 year old right now, and I feel like the 24 year old's body just doesn't compare to the tight 20 year old's.

Post: #62

(01-26-2013 11:37 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  I'm in my mid twenties and it's rough seeing older women.

Even ones who have nice faces and keep in shape, they're just not as attractive as younger ones.

How many of you old guys are regularly smashing women in their 30s? How many just focus on women in their early 20s.

Hell, I'm seeing a 20 year old and a 24 year old right now, and I feel like the 24 year old's body just doesn't compare to the tight 20 year old's.

I'm 50 and I have a date tonight with a 31 year old. Date last night with a 33 year old, Wed night with a 28 year old. These are all Americans-while American culture is unrealistic and prudish regarding age differences, they can be overcome if your game is tight.

Under 26 is tough for me-I haven't made any serious effort there in a couple years. However, I do think it is possible now and then and plan to give it a shot at when the tourist season gets here.

A guy in his mid 30s to 40 should be banging under 26s regularly-if he's not, that shows his game needs improvement

Post: #63

(01-26-2013 11:37 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  I'm in my mid twenties and it's rough seeing older women.

Even ones who have nice faces and keep in shape, they're just not as attractive as younger ones.

How many of you old guys are regularly smashing women in their 30s? How many just focus on women in their early 20s.

Hell, I'm seeing a 20 year old and a 24 year old right now, and I feel like the 24 year old's body just doesn't compare to the tight 20 year old's.

Dealing with 30 plus chicks is amusing, they love to play the cat and mouse game. I guess due to this forum I am not exerting too much effort on the four women I know in this age bracket and it pisses them off big time. They are all giving me the committment vibe which of course I am not feeling.
I am now focusing my efforts on younger girls who are responsive.

Post: #64

(01-26-2013 01:28 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I'm 50 and I have a date tonight with a 31 year old. Date last night with a 33 year old, Wed night with a 28 year old. These are all Americans-while American culture is unrealistic and prudish regarding age differences, they can be overcome if your game is tight.

Under 26 is tough for me-I haven't made any serious effort there in a couple years. However, I do think it is possible now and then and plan to give it a shot at when the tourist season gets here.

A guy in his mid 30s to 40 should be banging under 26s regularly-if he's not, that shows his game needs improvement

XY has been generous enough to share some pics of the women he is banging.

They are hot.

I showed him a picture of one of the marrieds I am banging.

I fucked her tonight...she went home to her husband at 7 pm after I had given her what she said was the deepest orgasm she had ever had.

I am 61. She is 40. I told her, as she was cumming with that deep orgasm -- "You are mine. I have you."

She will be back for more. Domination...power...nothing beats it.

Post: #65

Are any of you guys on TRT or HGH, this is the way to go for guys in their 50s and up. This would have an awesome affect on gaming younger chicks.

Post: #66

(01-25-2013 11:41 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  .... and she is down with me fucking her friends.

Reaper, did you tell her about fucking other girls, or she passively accepts it, without any need for both of you to bring it up in a conversation ?

I like the idea.

Post: #67

(01-27-2013 10:33 AM)michelin Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 11:41 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  .... and she is down with me fucking her friends.

Reaper, did you tell her about fucking other girls, or she passively accepts it, without any need for both of you to bring it up in a conversation ?

I like the idea.

Was her idea

Post: #68

(01-27-2013 12:48 AM)Magic Bullets Wrote:  Are any of you guys on TRT or HGH, this is the way to go for guys in their 50s and up. This would have an awesome affect on gaming younger chicks.

My testosterone levels were tested recently as part of some routine medical tests. I was hoping it would be just low enough to get TRT but it wasn't ; it was solidly in the normal range even though I haven't been getting much sleep lately and the blood was drawn in the late afternoon, both of which will cause lower T levels. But what medicine considers normal is not optimal; i would like to raise my T before it falls any lower but i'm not sure i could find a doc to give me a prescription at my current t level

Post: #69

I guess when you're 60 a 40 year old is nice, and there are some cute ones.

But man nothing beats a 21 year old.

And let me tell you, there are PLENTY of girls in their early 20s who are banging WAY older dudes. I am constantly shocked to see hot 19 yos dating guys in their 50s. Hell a friend of mine when she was 22 was dating some guy in his 60s, older than her parents.

Just go for it, the world is your oyster.

Post: #70

(01-27-2013 04:31 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  I am constantly shocked to see hot 19 yos dating guys in their 50s.

Where are you seeing this?

City? Country?

Post: #71

(01-27-2013 02:17 PM)MrXY Wrote:  i would like to raise my T before it falls any lower but i'm not sure i could find a doc to give me a prescription at my current t level

Check out increasemyt.com
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Post: #72

(01-25-2013 11:55 AM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  Older Guys Game:

Be well groomed. It’s even more important for an older guy to be in shape and well dressed. Young guys can trade on their potential for future success, older guys must trade on their actual success. Look and act successful.

Never apologise for your age. Always see your age as a positive. Remember, older Men run the world and always have. Always be the first to bring the subject up. Make their age the issue. The younger they are the easier it is to turn things around and get them qualifying themselves.

Exploit your advantage. PUAs go to great lengths trying to stand out in a crowd. An Older Guy, who obviously has his shit together, is still quite a novelty and will command attention naturally.

DHOGV. Character, Wisdom and Experience, can only be obtained over time and have been highly valued throughout human history. Demonstrating these traits will appeal to a woman’s deepest primeval desires.

Great stuff here. Let me add to it with my perspective (I am 38, live in Chicago)

Be well groomed. Great point, nothing to add

Never apologize for your age. The only haters when I bang 25 year olds are my 38 year old female friends. I simply reply with a "your feminist shaming tactic wont work on me" and they usually shut up. With the youngsters, I simply don't ever bring up my age which sometimes is hard when I joke around about some 80's cultural reference and then I realize they weren't born yet.

Exploit your advantage. According to the census, about 85% of men my age are married in America, so not a lot of "apples to apples" competition, especially since there are a lot of gay guys and omega dredges in that 15% bucket. I go to places where I am in my element (hotel bars, charity events, wine tastings, etc) and clean up because the younger guys come across as less appealing in those environments, whereas I would come across as less appealing at Underground (local club).

DHV - A layup as an older guy with resources. You can be a high ranking person at work, have investments in local restaurants or bars, a local political figure, etc.

The 35-45 age range is the sweet spot for men. I am in better shape than I was 15 years ago (about 70 people from my former company entered the JP Morgan Corporate Challenge Run...this "old man" came in 1st), still have all of my hair (even if you are balding you can do the shaved head look), and my resources allow me to increase my odds (better pad, both logistically and optically, and opens up more choices in general)

So how do the various age brackets look at a guy like me?

22-26. Hardest of the bunch but can be done when (along with game of course) you walk into a bar you have an investment in and the GM introduces you to some young hot ladies as the "owner" (reality - there are about 30 investors, but she doesn't need to know the details!) and they can see my 911 street parked out front because the valets want to keep a couple nice cars up there (at least until the Lambos bump me...ha). But I've found that for these chics you need to be in top shape otherwise a Lambo wont even save your fat ass. You don't need to be young, just "youthful".

27-33. The clock is ticking for these ladies! And I look great on paper ("right" schools, jobs, titles, etc) so they all think I have the capability to be a suitable husband to their SWPL families. Hahahaha, oh you silly girls! This group regularly dumps me after 60 days when its evident I wont marry them (thankfully).

34-42. The Wall! Most realize the ship has sailed on kids but occasionally their hamster brain makes them think they have time. So this crowd doesn't want to date younger guys for the most part and since there are very few single guys my age (as I mentioned above) and their self imposed standards drop, I am more than capable of being their "fuck/dinner/drink buddy" for almost any women in this age bracket. I've found I can keep them in my soft harem for as long as I want them. Least appealing bracket but soooo easy.

This is the golden age (bracket), and I am going to enjoy it.

Post: #73

Im about to turn 35 and I feel I'm in my prime. As if I could do just about anything. I'll bang the hell out of a hot 36 year old, I'll bang the hell out of a hot 21 year old. I've told 26 yr olds they're too old for me to date seriously. I've never been married, no kids that I'm aware of.
If I could tell my younger self anything it would be to set myself up better financially and that's about all. I love how I've lived my life.
Younger guys on here should focus on self improvement, develop skills, learn martial arts, get their inner game rock solid. Go out there and build a beautiful life full of adventure, friends, and women and live in a way that you know that even if you fucked up, you did it a 100mph and have a great story that dhvs you. Don't get married.

Post: #74

I notice guys in this thread aren't mentioning fucking around with 18 year olds. Why not? Don't feel intimidated because she's not old enough to drink

Post: #75

At that age for me it's more about them managing to keep my interest other than to their tight bodies.