Post: #26

(01-18-2013 06:32 PM)Pass Wrote:  Got a chuckle reading the article. After my divorce, the first girl I hooked up with turned out to be 21. I thought she was at least 27. Got a lot of thumbs up frm the guys, but got hell from the female friends.

A girl I know was knocking on a 28 yo guy for going after 23-24 yo girls. The girl is I think 26-27, thus closer to the wall and par for the course for her to hate.

Post: #27

I have never believed in the fairy tale of marriage.....we are not monogamous creatures......my recommendation to the young guys is to try and figure out a way to make a living outside of a westernized/feminist country....I am in my late 30's pushing 40 all the girls I have been with in Bogota have been under 25......the current one i have been hanging with is 23....when I asked her candidly what is the oldest man she would go for.....she thought about it and said very seriously.....48....maybe 50......gotta love latin america!!!!

Post: #28

(01-21-2013 06:25 PM)bacan Wrote:  For guys that are 35, 40+ I want to know -- would you tell your 25 year old self to not get any commitment for the next 10-15 years?

What about the feeling of missing out on family or something like that?

I am really trying to figure out what I want to do..

Sure get married but remember, if it goes wrong and chances are it will, you’ll get royally screwed from all sides. In my opinion only a fool would enter into any agreement as one sided as the modern marriage contract.

The feminisation of Family Law priced intelligent Men out of the marriage market long ago. The first nail in the marriage coffin was when the “I promise to obey” line was taken out of the vows. And sure kids are ok but chances are, you would only get to see them every other weekend anyway.

The over-riding reason our grandfathers had to get married was because it was the only way back then, that they could be guaranteed regular sex. But now that feminism has liberated women sexually any Man that keeps himself in shape, has almost unlimited access to casual sex.

I maintain that in many ways, this is a great time to be a single Man whatever your age. Therefore my advice to any 25 year old guy today, is to avoid the marriage trap at all cost and concentrate on making money and travelling instead.

There’s a big beautiful exciting world out there full of all kinds of different women. Go check it out.

Post: #29

the early 20 women are nice to look at and all, but if the choice was between actually having a conversation with them and getting hit in the knee with a bat I would have to flip a coin to decide most of the time.

Post: #30

I use to think the older I got the harder it would be to get young girls but every year it actually gets easier. It's easier today for a guy in his 40s to get a girl half his age than it was 10 years ago. Younger girls just don't care anymore. Another huge advantage you have as an older guy is that the vast majority of young guys are so beta these days the poor young girls don't really have much of a choice if they want to experience an alpha male. What hasn't changed is that you still have to deal with differences in what you would consider "fun" and what they would consider "fun." It really doesn't matter how old a girl is anymore. I find you still have to deal with about the same amount of shit. The nature of the shit may change somewhat but the amount remains about the same on average. The Internet and the vast amount of information it is making available to young people is creating a compression of age. Young people want to grow up and be older. Older people want to look and act younger. As these various trends merge, age won't really matter much anymore. And outside of the US, it matters even less. The US is the most age conscious and segregationist society in the world.

Here is a good one. These two young girls asked if I wanted to go to a party with them. I said: don't you think I'm a little too old for you? One whispered something to the other one then turned to me and said with a smile: well, if you add both of us together I'm sure we would be old enough for you

Post: #31

Very true.

Opened two Finish chicks (a 6 and an 8) last week. Asked them their age, they said 24. Ended up banging them both at my place that same night.

They told me the next morning that they had lied about their ages and that they were both only 19.

I made out that I was really upset with them, while secretly chuckling to myself.

They said they were sorry but they thought I might have thought that they were too young.

We’re living in great times guys, great times.

Post: #32

(01-22-2013 07:47 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  I use to think the older I got the harder it would be to get young girls but every year it actually gets easier. It's easier today for a guy in his 40s to get a girl half his age than it was 10 years ago. Younger girls just don't care anymore. Another huge advantage you have as an older guy is that the vast majority of young guys are so beta these days the poor young girls don't really have much of a choice if they want to experience an alpha male. What hasn't changed is that you still have to deal with differences in what you would consider "fun" and what they would consider "fun." It really doesn't matter how old a girl is anymore. I find you still have to deal with about the same amount of shit. The nature of the shit may change somewhat but the amount remains about the same on average. The Internet and the vast amount of information it is making available to young people is creating a compression of age. Young people want to grow up and be older. Older people want to look and act younger. As these various trends merge, age won't really matter much anymore. And outside of the US, it matters even less. The US is the most age conscious and segregationist society in the world.

Here is a good one. These two young girls asked if I wanted to go to a party with them. I said: don't you think I'm a little too old for you? One whispered something to the other one then turned to me and said with a smile: well, if you add both of us together I'm sure we would be old enough for you

I think girls in general are just way easier these days.

I am not sure exactly what it is, but I think it is because the younger generations are so weesh.

Post: #33

Heres a thread about younger girls and older men
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Post: #34

What I see happening is that the girls are getting stronger and the guys weaker. I look at the interaction between young girls and guys and the girls, more often than not, always seem to be the leader/alpha. Now, we all know that a girl wants to be dominated, so for a younger girl to find some guy around her age to do that is getting more and more difficult. Add to the fact that a lot of younger guys are just not in shape and I don't blame younger girls for going after older guys.

As an older guy in US, with years of social conditioning that's it's taboo to go after young girls, the FIRST thing you have to do is break that conditioning. Hell, it took me years, just to become comfortable talking to a younger girl (18 - 22) in public.

Post: #35

(01-23-2013 09:44 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  What I see happening is that the girls are getting stronger and the guys weaker. I look at the interaction between young girls and guys and the girls, more often than not, always seem to be the leader/alpha. Now, we all know that a girl wants to be dominated, so for a younger girl to find some guy around her age to do that is getting more and more difficult. Add to the fact that a lot of younger guys are just not in shape and I don't blame younger girls for going after older guys.

As an older guy in US, with years of social conditioning that's it's taboo to go after young girls, the FIRST thing you have to do is break that conditioning. Hell, it took me years, just to become comfortable talking to a younger girl (18 - 22) in public.

It is a process brother. Don't feel bad.

I am glad I found this place, otherwise I'd be on the way to being a married submissive husband with a wife that cheats on me.

Divine intervention.

Post: #36

(01-23-2013 09:44 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  As an older guy in US, with years of social conditioning that's it's taboo to go after young girls, the FIRST thing you have to do is break that conditioning.

Is this true?

Is their really a taboo against older guys going after younger girls?

I have never heard that?

Thank God I was raised in San Francisco. We make taboos normal.

Post: #37

(01-21-2013 06:56 PM)pitt Wrote:  I just admire guys who stayed in the game for so many years. Its impressing to see a guy over 40 chasing women like crazy. I am 26 and sometimes i feel like settling down, i dont even like the idea of going to clubs anymore.

I think i need to settle down for 2 years, get bored then go back to that playboy lifestyle.

exactly. some of us late 30s/40+ men were actually in long relationships, and now back in the game. i was in a LTR from age 25-35, and have been single almost 3 years now.

Post: #38

a great post by d&p about the age question:

http://dangerandplay.com/lie-about-your-age/

Post: #39

(01-21-2013 06:56 PM)pitt Wrote:  I just admire guys who stayed in the game for so many years. Its impressing to see a guy over 40 chasing women like crazy. I am 26 and sometimes i feel like settling down, i dont even like the idea of going to clubs anymore.

I think i need to settle down for 2 years, get bored then go back to that playboy lifestyle.

Go live with a girl for a few years. You won't be impressed anymore. Given the choice of being in a dead relationship or out gaming, it's no contest. Doesn't matter how great or beautiful the girl is, I always remember this quote which is so true:

"Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you some man that's tired of fucking her."

Post: #40

Had some old flame hit me up on FB, haven't seen this person in like 20 years. She wants to hook up for drinks and seems to be very eager. The best part is that she wanted to know where in the world I was, I told her I am back in town and then she wanted to know if I am staying.
Spoke to another one recently and she wanted to know also if I am staying in the country, this one is a single mom but tried to play hardball. Now she wants to hook up for drinks also, man this travelling thing really gets girls going huh!

Post: #41

I wouldn't recommended going back to the past. Every single time I have done that, I have regretted it. You lose the good memory you had of them and for what? Finding a woman that has aged well in the US, is the equivalent of hitting the fucking jackpot in Vegas!

Post: #42

(01-20-2013 01:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I have a few at the gym that are staring at me, both are eastern european which is another reason I have to move back to Europe.

Yeah. That is the way it is for me to. I'm 48. The occasional times a woman smiles at me and makes eye contact in the States, it is invariably a European woman, usually Russian, anywhere between 25 and my age.

On the surface, the society is agist as well as misandrist. As a 40 something guy - even if you are successful - you need nearly perfect game in the US. Women around your age think they deserve someone a good 10 years younger. Look at the profiles on dating sites and invariably it is the women who look for mates 10-5 years younger than them. It is an inverted world.

All things said, my friends and I are in agreement. 25 is a perfect age for women. If they reach 30 without children they are forever damaged. If you need to date over 25-30, finding someone who has already had kids, you will find a much more balanced person.

Also, there is an American millennial problem. The US women of this generation have had the most privileged upbringing of any population of women (and likely any men) ever. Combined with an overwhelming sense of entitlement and bizarre sense of being wronged. From a physical point of view they are hideous. I live near a university and it is rare to see a female who is not on the path to obesity. Gen-X have actually aged better and have less of this attitude problem. My s.o. is in her mid twenties from Eastern Europe, but she shares none of the cultural baggage of millennial women in the US. She thinks they are atrocious and mocks them, observing things worse than any of the things you hear on this site.

Post: #43

(01-23-2013 03:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-23-2013 09:44 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  As an older guy in US, with years of social conditioning that's it's taboo to go after young girls, the FIRST thing you have to do is break that conditioning.

Is this true?

Is their really a taboo against older guys going after younger girls?

I have never heard that?

Thank God I was raised in San Francisco. We make taboos normal.

Well, it was actually normal and expected historically. It became taboo under feminism, while their are TV shows celebrating cougars. Face it. Older people dating younger is an expression of power to some degree. Women have the cultural power in the U.S.

Post: #44

Rastignac - Your post is so spot on, the age thing with women is a double standard. They will mock you for dating a younger girl but yet they are open to dating a younger guy. What young guy in his right mind would take an older woman seriously!

Eastern European girls beat Western girls by a country mile, they simply no the score. They realize gaining weight is a no-no and will even starve themselves if they have too.

Post: #45

(01-23-2013 10:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Had some old flame hit me up on FB, haven't seen this person in like 20 years. She wants to hook up for drinks and seems to be very eager. The best part is that she wanted to know where in the world I was, I told her I am back in town and then she wanted to know if I am staying.
Spoke to another one recently and she wanted to know also if I am staying in the country, this one is a single mom but tried to play hardball. Now she wants to hook up for drinks also, man this travelling thing really gets girls going huh!

Yes it does. Independence and travel in a man make women wet and gets the interest going on Facebook. Reminds me of a friend who was travelling for work and banged a handful of the hotter women from his past from Facebook (all married). He was travelling internationally and got them comp tickets with frequent flyer miles and they all cheated on their spouses.

Better to travel freely than be stuck in a corporate job with a bunch of foreign male engineers.

I have done both in spells.

Post: #46

(01-23-2013 11:44 PM)rastignac Wrote:  

(01-23-2013 10:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Had some old flame hit me up on FB, haven't seen this person in like 20 years. She wants to hook up for drinks and seems to be very eager. The best part is that she wanted to know where in the world I was, I told her I am back in town and then she wanted to know if I am staying.
Spoke to another one recently and she wanted to know also if I am staying in the country, this one is a single mom but tried to play hardball. Now she wants to hook up for drinks also, man this travelling thing really gets girls going huh!

Yes it does. Independence and travel in a man make women wet and gets the interest going on Facebook. Reminds me of a friend who was travelling for work and banged a handful of the hotter women from his past from Facebook (all married). He was travelling internationally and got them comp tickets with frequent flyer miles and they all cheated on their spouses.

Better to travel freely than be stuck in a corporate job with a bunch of foreign male engineers.

I have done both in spells.

I am seeing the light amigo. I have a chance at an airline gig in the spring, that maybe a great angle although the pay isn't that great to start. That would easily be the deal breaker with alot of these girls, getting to fly for next to nothing to some foreign destination.
Of course I would get them to pay for the hotel, but then again I prefer to travel solo.

Post: #47

(01-21-2013 06:56 PM)pitt Wrote:  I just admire guys who stayed in the game for so many years. Its impressing to see a guy over 40 chasing women like crazy. I am 26 and sometimes i feel like settling down, i dont even like the idea of going to clubs anymore.

I think i need to settle down for 2 years, get bored then go back to that playboy lifestyle.

Thats exactly what I did, id say most of the guys here this age have done the same. An older section would be good, as we have already been there done that, for many things. Im a few years of 40 myself and don't think of myself as old, when i see guys I went to school with on facebook I do; many are fat, bald, ugly and married. At work I have girls 18 and up chasing, recently a 20 year old guy told the girl like "you know this guy is nearly 40 !!", trying to cockblock.

Post: #48

(01-24-2013 01:10 AM)kazz Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 06:56 PM)pitt Wrote:  I just admire guys who stayed in the game for so many years. Its impressing to see a guy over 40 chasing women like crazy. I am 26 and sometimes i feel like settling down, i dont even like the idea of going to clubs anymore.

I think i need to settle down for 2 years, get bored then go back to that playboy lifestyle.

Thats exactly what I did, id say most of the guys here this age have done the same. An older section would be good, as we have already been there done that, for many things. Im a few years of 40 myself and don't think of myself as old, when i see guys I went to school with on facebook I do; many are fat, bald, ugly and married. At work I have girls 18 and up chasing, recently a 20 year old guy told the girl like "you know this guy is nearly 40 !!", trying to cockblock.

Yes. Cockblocking older guys is especially intense now. It is the biggest problem I have in American clubs. And I really do not know how to deal with it as it is a fairly new phenomenon and I have only been single a few years, ost of that time spent abroad.

Look at George Clooney over the past 10 years. Not many women would turn him down. Daniel Craig. Sean Connery. Be a real man - be your own man - like these guys and you will never be too old for anyone, ever. Stay fit. Keep your testosterone up by eating right and working out. Fuck a lot. Women love men who are getting some.

Oh. And girls were very easy 30 years ago. Easier than now. And more susceptible to game. I see my younger friends work and work and work at it. It was never so hard for me and I was just a fairly normal guy, a little dark and mysterious and aloof. But I never had to try.

Now everything (dating, hooking up) is as pleasant as (and not unlike) a job interview. First time I encountered that bullshit was around '95.

Post: #49

Very true. Girls are much smarter now in every way. All game does, is level the playing field a bit. For the majority of guys out there it's rough here in the US. I feel sorry for my friends that can't leave this country. Sure, they are some top players getting girls but they are the exceptions. Guys say girls are easier today but I am not sure of this. Game is helping me meet a lot of girls and to have a casual good time but to get anything with some depth and substance is very difficult.

Post: #50

Glad to hear all this. 43 here Was married 16 years. Just discovered red pill last year.