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(01-21-2013 11:24 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  I still don't understand what a high end venue is exactly.

Finding, prepping, getting to one seems to be a pain in the ass and not fun to me.

You are not alone in your thinking.

Hence the better ratios.

Doing the opposite of most guys is always the correct direction.

(01-21-2013 11:01 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  The cost per bang or whatever only applies to someone with the sole purpose of going out to get laid. Some people just enjoy going out and having fun. Of course, women would be part that fun but not the sole purpose. Would that be a cost per fun type of thing?

Right.

I enjoy eating in beautiful restaurants with beautiful women.

I have joked on here before about it, but I don't understand the hatred of meals and the restaurant industry in general on this forum.

I mean, do guys on here eat every dinner of their life at home and just stare at the wall?

I figure I am going to have to eat dinner anyways, why not do it with a beautiful girl?
Well if it's a pain for me it's going to be a pain for them too.

What's the mindset of the girls there? Why do they go? Most of them here like tiki bars..
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(01-21-2013 12:15 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I figure I am going to have to eat dinner anyways, why not do it with a beautiful girl?

It doesn't hurt your rep to be seen all over town with different beautiful women.

el mechanico Wrote:Well if it's a pain for me it's going to be a pain for them too.

What's the mindset of the girls there? Why do they go? Most of them here like tiki bars..

Same reason women do almost anything... to impress other women.
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Cheers G

To play devils advocate for a moment may I ask;


Were you popular with girls in school/collage?

Did you have any embarrassing or humiliating sexual experiences during your adolescents?

Are you under any pressure from your family to settle down?

Is it possible that your seemingly, insatiable apatite for new sexual conquests could be an indication of an underlying physiological inadequacy?

You mentioned earlier that it was quite common to see 40ish year old guys out with girls in their 20s. Do you plan to be one of these guys in the future?

Can you see yourself ever getting married?

Do you have any ambition to have children?

What do you see as the perfect end game for The G?
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I enjoy getting dressed up in a good suit (or better yet, a tuxedo) and partaking of high society nightlife. The ratios are typically favorable, too. However, I don't have the money or the connections to do this on a regular basis. Fortunately, because the US is less caste-class bound than some places, rich girls here aren't necessarily any hotter intrinsically and genetically than girls of more modest means. One can, therefore, find an endless supply of cute girls without going high-end; they just won't be wearing designer cocktail dresses or evening gowns. It's all about using the means available to the individual guy. An 8 from a college town in a flyover state and an 8 from a swanky club in Miami both look the same naked in your bed in the morning. The college cutie might even be better, since more of her attractiveness is based on youth, as opposed to flattering clothes and an elaborate beauty regimen. To each his own, it really has less to do with the girls and more about which social circles a man is most comfortable in.
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(01-21-2013 12:21 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Well if it's a pain for me it's going to be a pain for them too.

What's the mindset of the girls there? Why do they go? Most of them here like tiki bars..

This is an interesting snippet from an article on another thread:

Quote:A much-publicized study by Reach Advisors, a Boston-based market research group, found that the median income for young, single, childless women is higher than it is for men in many of the country’s biggest cities (though men still dominate the highest-income jobs, according to James Chung, the company’s president). This may be one reason it is not uncommon to walk into the hottest new West Village bistro on a Saturday night and find five smartly dressed young women dining together — the nearest man the waiter. Income equality, or superiority, for women muddles the old, male-dominated dating structure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/fashio...=all&_r=1&

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Now these are some great thought provoking questions.

(01-21-2013 02:10 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  Cheers G

To play devils advocate for a moment may I ask;


Were you popular with girls in school/collage?

I sucked with girls when I was 12-14 or so.

Senior year in High School, I swooped two of the hottest junior cheerleaders. Which was unusual, since I was not the "All American" type. I was an outsider/outlaw. I really haven't looked back since.

College I did pretty good. But no where near as good as I do today. But back then, I had different priorities; friends, the crew, surfing, drugs, holding sh*t down, partying etc

Quote:Did you have any embarrassing or humiliating sexual experiences during your adolescents?

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Quote:Are you under any pressure from your family to settle down?

Not much. My MOM wants grandkids, but that is about it.

Quote:Is it possible that your seemingly, insatiable apatite for new sexual conquests could be an indication of an underlying physiological inadequacy?

Who knows? I am one step away from being completely crazy. I do know that much.

Quote:You mentioned earlier that it was quite common to see 40ish year old guys out with girls in their 20s. Do you plan to be one of these guys in the future?

Hell f*cking yes.

Quote:Can you see yourself ever getting married?

Interesting that you ask this. Periodically, I do have a desire. I usually squash it though.

Right now I am dating 4 girls that are amazing. I would marry any one of them, I think.

I do kind of want to impregnate all four of them.

Quote:Do you have any ambition to have children?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Quote:What do you see as the perfect end game for The G?

I wish I knew. My life was once predicted by a gypsy that I would one day walk into gunshots while drunk on Champagne from Sicily (actually Prosecco), so I don't really sweat it.

I feel I am kind of like this:





"You climb a little higher, you take less shit."

I feel like am at at this "layer" in life right now.

Life is beautiful.

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(01-21-2013 11:24 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  I still don't understand what a high end venue is exactly. Well for where I live anyway. NYC yes.

Finding, prepping, getting to one seems to be a pain in the ass and not fun to me. If you're in Santo Domingo would you want to go to a high end club? What for if the girls are just hanging out all over. I don't know. We went to some lounge? W/fisto in some mall full of women and they wanted to be there but I can't tell if it was considered high end?

You might be able to see some talent at low end venues if you live near a beach or overseas. Or if you live in a big college town.

But if you live in a dude heavy/career oriented city like me it's probably a bad decision.

Some American cities just have too many desperate dudes looking to go out on weekends. They skew the ratios and repel women. The best way to avoid them is to go to a upscale spot with expensive drinks.
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What age are you G?
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Higher end places have higher end chicks!

Mindblown

(Sarcastic)

What's funny is that G has been preaching this type of game for years.

(01-16-2013 11:42 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I still only convert at 5%.

I think it's official.

If a decent looking guy with decent game approaches 100 women, he will bang around 5 of them.

I usually do around 6-7 but I admit I'm easy to look at. Wink

(01-19-2013 12:59 PM)slubu Wrote:  I was at a high end sushi restaurant in LA last night, the place was crawling with hot skinny feminine women.

I took an anthropology class in college. We learned that all over the world, rich men tend to be surrounded by skinny women, and, poor men tend to be surrounded by fat women.

Women need to look good if they want to compete for the best men.

(01-16-2013 12:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Nicaraguan

Nicas can be hot. They can be very loyal.

I suspect that she thought you were "setting her up" and working for her boyfriend, trying to entice and entrap her her into cheating.

(01-21-2013 12:15 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I mean, do guys on here eat every dinner of their life at home and just stare at the wall?

We watch tv bro.

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(01-21-2013 02:10 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  Were you popular with girls in school/collage?

Did you have any embarrassing or humiliating sexual experiences during your adolescents?

Are you under any pressure from your family to settle down?

Is it possible that your seemingly, insatiable apatite for new sexual conquests could be an indication of an underlying physiological inadequacy?

Hannibal Lecter Game!!

I'm going to pm you for a Freudian breakdown!

(01-21-2013 03:09 PM)Ovid Wrote:  I enjoy getting dressed up in a good suit (or better yet, a tuxedo) and partaking of high society nightlife. The ratios are typically favorable, too. However, I don't have the money or the connections to do this on a regular basis. Fortunately, because the US is less caste-class bound than some places, rich girls here aren't necessarily any hotter intrinsically and genetically than girls of more modest means. One can, therefore, find an endless supply of cute girls without going high-end; they just won't be wearing designer cocktail dresses or evening gowns. It's all about using the means available to the individual guy. An 8 from a college town in a flyover state and an 8 from a swanky club in Miami both look the same naked in your bed in the morning. The college cutie might even be better, since more of her attractiveness is based on youth, as opposed to flattering clothes and an elaborate beauty regimen. To each his own, it really has less to do with the girls and more about which social circles a man is most comfortable in.

Wow. I've been trying to say that for years!
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(01-21-2013 03:09 PM)Ovid Wrote:  I enjoy getting dressed up in a good suit (or better yet, a tuxedo) and partaking of high society nightlife. The ratios are typically favorable, too. However, I don't have the money or the connections to do this on a regular basis. Fortunately, because the US is less caste-class bound than some places, rich girls here aren't necessarily any hotter intrinsically and genetically than girls of more modest means. One can, therefore, find an endless supply of cute girls without going high-end; they just won't be wearing designer cocktail dresses or evening gowns. It's all about using the means available to the individual guy. An 8 from a college town in a flyover state and an 8 from a swanky club in Miami both look the same naked in your bed in the morning. The college cutie might even be better, since more of her attractiveness is based on youth, as opposed to flattering clothes and an elaborate beauty regimen. To each his own, it really has less to do with the girls and more about which social circles a man is most comfortable in.

This is a really good post.

Quote:An 8 from a college town in a flyover state and an 8 from a swanky club in Miami both look the same naked in your bed in the morning.

Maybe true.

However, you walk out of your door in Miami to more beautiful girls, the beach and topless girls.

In a flyover state, you are a 15 minute drive to the nearest Applebees.

Furthermore, I have always wanted to compete at the top levels of the Game.

I have no interest in playing for the Farm team.

(01-21-2013 09:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  What's funny is that G has been preaching this type of game for years.

I say it a lot, but the "pua" and "manosphere" thinking always comes around to what we have been talking about on The G Manifesto for years.

Now all the "pua" bloggers are about "building a lifestyle" like it is some new revelation.

The G Manifesto has been talking about that since day one.

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5% conversation is a crazy high number for dick in vagina, most experienced guys run at 2-3% in my experience. Your number close rate is normal/average from what i have seen, so I'm assuming you have strong endgame.
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(01-22-2013 04:48 PM)ausnat Wrote:  5% conversation is a crazy high number for dick in vagina, most experienced guys run at 2-3% in my experience. Your number close rate is normal/average from what i have seen, so I'm assuming you have strong endgame.

My true Game strength in my 2nd date. (Or first date with the girl, second meeting).

This is where I am most deadly and have an extremely high conversion rate.

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you have strong date game, it's a great thing, I love going on dates because my conversion ratio from "Day 2's" is pretty high these days

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(01-17-2013 07:39 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I don't want it to seem like I swooped 11 models. Two were.

Showed this thread to my boy and he astutely pointed out that the statement “I don't want it to seem like I swooped 11 models" is one of the greatest humblebrags of all time, like “not ALL these women were absolutely perfect...”

Well done G, just beautiful.
Moral of the story for me- doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, or what you look like...you have to put in that WORK. No excuses, No way around it.

I agree with Giovanny- how long does G have to extol the high end game?? I mean, take a $16 cocktail (gasp)- the buzz alone is going to be twice as good as 2 $8 beers due to superior and imaginative ingredients, etc. And this isn't even factoring in the much improved "views" from the establishment.
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(01-22-2013 04:48 PM)ausnat Wrote:  5% conversation is a crazy high number for dick in vagina, most experienced guys run at 2-3% in my experience.

This is an interesting "fact" of game. It's like hitting in baseball, if you are successful 30% of the time, you are a hall of famer!

Expect to fail, just fail a little better each time.

I started off a few years ago at around 1%, maybe less. I had to approach at least 100 women to find one that wanted to bang me. All day time approaches, all American girls under 24. I'm am mid 30's.

Now, I am closer to 5% or better.

I'm sure I could have better figures if I approached drunk girls in night venues and older girls. Shit, if I approached drunk girls over 30, I could probably pull 20%. Those girls do not mess around. But, I have no interest in them.

Guys in Thailand, Philippines, Dominican Republic, etc, should have much better figures.

(01-22-2013 11:46 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  The G Manifesto has been talking about that since day one.

The haters are exactly that, haters. They don't want to believe that a surfer kid from California can go against the grain, say fuck the traditional path, and live a life on his own terms.

They don't wanna believe it. They can't believe it. It's too far outside of their blue pill paradigm. They can only hate.

Just like in "The Matrix", some people didn't want to live in reality, they wanted to stay in the "matrix". They couldn't handle the truth. They couldn't accept the fact that their entire upbringing and worldview was fake.
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(01-23-2013 02:22 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  The haters are exactly that, haters. They don't want to believe that a surfer kid from California can go against the grain, say fuck the traditional path, and live a life on his own terms.

The one thing I learned was the more I went against tradition the happier I became. I hope more guys learn they don't have to play the game society tries to force upon them.
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(01-21-2013 11:24 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  I still don't understand what a high end venue is exactly. Well for where I live anyway. NYC yes.

Any place with wine glasses made of crystal, and that doesn’t charge you for throwing them at the wait staff.
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Thanks for starting this thread, there's some valuable information.

Questions:

1. What do you do in a slow high-end venue like a restaurant or bar of a restaurant when you're not smoking or talking to somebody already? Do you sip your drink and look around? Play on your phone? Gaze at the floor?
Are you sitting at all or always standing and moving around?

2. Do you have some tricks for controlling your mood when rolling solo?
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(01-23-2013 07:40 PM)dotbiz Wrote:  Thanks for starting this thread, there's some valuable information.

Questions:

1. What do you do in a slow high-end venue like a restaurant or bar of a restaurant when you're not smoking or talking to somebody already? Do you sip your drink and look around? Play on your phone? Gaze at the floor?
Are you sitting at all or always standing and moving around?

2. Do you have some tricks for controlling your mood when rolling solo?

if it is slow you should be talking to employees and locking the place down
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(01-21-2013 02:10 PM)His Imperial Majesty Wrote:  Is it possible that your seemingly, insatiable apatite for new sexual conquests could be an indication of an underlying physiological inadequacy?

Is it possible that a seemingly insatiable appetite for new sexual conquests could be an indication that sex for the first time with a hot young woman is one of the greatest things in life?
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(01-23-2013 07:40 PM)dotbiz Wrote:  Thanks for starting this thread, there's some valuable information.

Questions:

1. What do you do in a slow high-end venue like a restaurant or bar of a restaurant when you're not smoking or talking to somebody already? Do you sip your drink and look around? Play on your phone? Gaze at the floor?
Are you sitting at all or always standing and moving around?

Depends. If it is slow, I might split.

Or if I like it Lock it Down.

Or order some food. Or a cocktail. All depends.

Quote:2. Do you have some tricks for controlling your mood when rolling solo?

No "tricks" per se.

I do have good preparation; well rested, work outs, ocean swims, Green Tea etc.

I don't go out at night unless I am feeling 120%.

I have a full routine I go thru before I go out at night. I need to write that one up for everyone.

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Ocean swims.. sounds good
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I find this post very inspirational.
Like many of the success stories on RVF, this reminds me to get back on my grizzly.

There is a promised land.

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(01-24-2013 04:04 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I find this post very inspirational.
Like many of the success stories on RVF, this reminds me to get back on my grizzly.

There is a promised land.

WIA

Good. I am glad you found it inspirational.

I hoping people would feel that way.

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01-24-2013 10:14 PM
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RE: Two Months In The Life Of The G Manifesto: Approach-Number-Conversion Rates
(01-24-2013 10:41 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I have a full routine I go thru before I go out at night. I need to write that one up for everyone.

I'd be very interested in hearing about this. Attitude is huge.

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To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
01-24-2013 10:59 PM
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RE: Two Months In The Life Of The G Manifesto: Approach-Number-Conversion Rates
Cheers G

Would you say that the chicks you’ve swooped, were generally better off or worse off, for having met you?
02-03-2013 11:22 AM
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