Post: #126

(11-15-2010 02:46 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  One more thing. Jessica Alba is almost 90% white. She took a DNA test that showed her to be 87% of European heritage and only 13% Native American. Visually, to me she sits on the borderline of being a light-mestiza and Mediterranean white. Now if Jessica Alba who looks more "ethnic" to me is almost 90% European, someone like Shakira must be almost entirely European. And if being almost entirely of European descent doesn't make you white, then what does? Nobody would ever say that someone of 90% or more African blood is non-black. Why is that?

I will agree that due to mixed marriages/sexual relations, there are various looks that defy easy identification. However, if one would simply judge from first sight, Jessica Alba and Shakira would be Mexican! Now, on the other hand, if I were in Malta and happened upon those girls, I could definitely buy that they're something else. However, here in the US, they look to be Hispanic. Most of the girls that you see on a daily basis that resemble them are usually Hispanic. Speaking of Jessica Alba, based on her looks alone, I think she looks down right silly playing the role of a white girl and that white boy's sister in the Fantastic Four! He clearly looks European, while she does not! It doesn't fit. Again, this is just by sight, not by some genetic testing. Now, are there people who look like one thing but are something else? Sure there are. However, we are speaking gnerally. Generally speaking, most people would classify Shakira and Jessica as Hispanic.

Post: #127

(11-15-2010 02:16 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-14-2010 11:48 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(11-14-2010 10:17 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-14-2010 11:55 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  I just finished watching the 'hips dont lie' video from shakira. That is a sexy girl! Wherever there are women who look like her is where I want to go! Lol.

Shakira is not even a mestiza. She is clearly white probably almost entirely of European bloodline. So I guess anywhere there are white people.

While Shakira is definitely lighter skinned I personally would never mistake her for a white girl. In addition to being darker hispanic people have a certain look. had I never heard of Shakira I would've taken 1 look at that picture and known this was a hispanic girl of some kind.

Agreed. I am hispanic, and I would have identified her as latina in about 30 seconds.


I'm not sure if its the same way with other races, like a black-american, being able to tell if a girl is Jamaican, Haitian or Cuban Black based on looks alone.

Shakira looks anything but white. And if you would ever go to her hometown of Barranquilla, and she was NOT famous, you would not even give her the time of day =)

Mixx

Are women in Barranquilla really that fine, as to where you would not even give Shakira the time of day? If so, what are any of us still doing trying to date American women?? Actually, I met a very pretty girl, white with quite a bit of native american, out in Frisco. Pretty decent attitude, but I can tell can be a little stubborn, "you can't tell me what to do" ish, if pushed too far. I would actually rate this girl and easy 8, with some of lesser standard considering her an 8 1/2 or 9. Still, even with that, being able to pull a girl like her on a consistent, 1 a week basis is just not possible here in the US, at least not for me. Though, I do have to admit that I haven't been trying as hard lately, since I'm sort of jaded from past experiences that the 8's and 9's pretty much go to the club with "No" already on their lips! Of course, I met this girl at a coffee shop, so day game can prove more valuable at times than even the clubs.

Post: #128

(11-15-2010 03:20 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(11-15-2010 02:46 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  One more thing. Jessica Alba is almost 90% white. She took a DNA test that showed her to be 87% of European heritage and only 13% Native American. Visually, to me she sits on the borderline of being a light-mestiza and Mediterranean white. Now if Jessica Alba who looks more "ethnic" to me is almost 90% European, someone like Shakira must be almost entirely European. And if being almost entirely of European descent doesn't make you white, then what does? Nobody would ever say that someone of 90% or more African blood is non-black. Why is that?

I will agree that due to mixed marriages/sexual relations, there are various looks that defy easy identification. However, if one would simply judge from first sight, Jessica Alba and Shakira would be Mexican! Now, on the other hand, if I were in Malta and happened upon those girls, I could definitely buy that they're something else. However, here in the US, they look to be Hispanic. Most of the girls that you see on a daily basis that resemble them are usually Hispanic. Speaking of Jessica Alba, based on her looks alone, I think she looks down right silly playing the role of a white girl and that white boy's sister in the Fantastic Four! He clearly looks European, while she does not! It doesn't fit. Again, this is just by sight, not by some genetic testing. Now, are there people who look like one thing but are something else? Sure there are. However, we are speaking gnerally. Generally speaking, most people would classify Shakira and Jessica as Hispanic.

You're making the mistake of talking about Hispanics/Latinos as if they are a race, when the term really only means you are descended from a Latin American country, regardless of race. You have people that are as black as Michelle Obama in Colombia, as white as George W. Bush and as indigenous as Geronimo, and all would consider themselves Hispanics. "Hispanic" is no more a racial term than "American" is, but in America, since most Hispanics are mestizo due to our proximity to Mexico, it has a racial connotation. A lot of people(not saying you per se) have a hard time wrapping their head around the notion that you can be black as the ace of spades and be Latino and same for whites.

Sure, I can tell that Shakira doesn't look like someone that just stepped off the Mayflower, but remember, whites in the U.S. are mostly of British and German descent. Whites in Latin America are mostly of Spanish, Italian and Portuguese descent(though there's some German too in certain places). The Mediterranean whites because they come from a warmer part of Europe have a bit more bronze tint to their skin and tend to have darker eyes and hair. So the reason Shakira "looks hispanic" in America is because most white Americans are Nordic. If Shakira was living in Spain or Portugal, she'd look just like everyone else there. I can clearly tell Shakira is not British or German like most US whites, but she's still white to me, just not Nordic white. Check this out: https://pmsol3.wordpress.com/ Someone did a composite image of different races by taking multiple photos of members of that race and layering them into a composite image to give you an "average" of what that race looks likes. There is a composite of a Spaniard man and woman at the top and even though they are white by definition(being European), either of them could pass for a light-skinned Mexican or Colombian and they look different from an average American white. I just think what happens is that people in America seem to define white as being Nordic white only.

Anyway, I think I'm done with this topic!

Post: #129

(11-15-2010 04:32 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-15-2010 03:20 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

(11-15-2010 02:46 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  One more thing. Jessica Alba is almost 90% white. She took a DNA test that showed her to be 87% of European heritage and only 13% Native American. Visually, to me she sits on the borderline of being a light-mestiza and Mediterranean white. Now if Jessica Alba who looks more "ethnic" to me is almost 90% European, someone like Shakira must be almost entirely European. And if being almost entirely of European descent doesn't make you white, then what does? Nobody would ever say that someone of 90% or more African blood is non-black. Why is that?

I will agree that due to mixed marriages/sexual relations, there are various looks that defy easy identification. However, if one would simply judge from first sight, Jessica Alba and Shakira would be Mexican! Now, on the other hand, if I were in Malta and happened upon those girls, I could definitely buy that they're something else. However, here in the US, they look to be Hispanic. Most of the girls that you see on a daily basis that resemble them are usually Hispanic. Speaking of Jessica Alba, based on her looks alone, I think she looks down right silly playing the role of a white girl and that white boy's sister in the Fantastic Four! He clearly looks European, while she does not! It doesn't fit. Again, this is just by sight, not by some genetic testing. Now, are there people who look like one thing but are something else? Sure there are. However, we are speaking gnerally. Generally speaking, most people would classify Shakira and Jessica as Hispanic.

You're making the mistake of talking about Hispanics/Latinos as if they are a race, when the term really only means you are descended from a Latin American country, regardless of race. You have people that are as black as Michelle Obama in Colombia, as white as George W. Bush and as indigenous as Geronimo, and all would consider themselves Hispanics. "Hispanic" is no more a racial term than "American" is, but in America, since most Hispanics are mestizo due to our proximity to Mexico, it has a racial connotation. A lot of people(not saying you per se) have a hard time wrapping their head around the notion that you can be black as the ace of spades and be Latino and same for whites.

Sure, I can tell that Shakira doesn't look like someone that just stepped off the Mayflower, but remember, whites in the U.S. are mostly of British and German descent. Whites in Latin America are mostly of Spanish, Italian and Portuguese descent(though there's some German too in certain places). The Mediterranean whites because they come from a warmer part of Europe have a bit more bronze tint to their skin and tend to have darker eyes and hair. So the reason Shakira "looks hispanic" in America is because most white Americans are Nordic. If Shakira was living in Spain or Portugal, she'd look just like everyone else there. I can clearly tell Shakira is not British or German like most US whites, but she's still white to me, just not Nordic white. Check this out: https://pmsol3.wordpress.com/ Someone did a composite image of different races by taking multiple photos of members of that race and layering them into a composite image to give you an "average" of what that race looks likes. There is a composite of a Spaniard man and woman at the top and even though they are white by definition(being European), either of them could pass for a light-skinned Mexican or Colombian and they look different from an average American white. I just think what happens is that people in America seem to define white as being Nordic white only.

I am able to wrap my mind around it, and I agree with everything you're saying. I'm generalizing and speaking the common American view. White people in our country are German, English or French for the most part. All pretty much of ancient Nordic decent like you mentioned. I am aware of the fact that portuguese, italian, etc. are also considered white, yet they are darker, partly because of the sun and partly because they have Moor (African) ad-mixtures within them! There are lots of racial groups that resemble what we as Americans know to be as Hispanics. For the sake of the discussion, I'll call Hispanic people as we know them mestizo, to signify a 58%-42% spaniard/portuguese and native american mixture. Girls such as Shakira, jessica, etc would be classified to AMERICANS as mestizo. When we as AMERICANS talk about going to, say, Colombia to catch Latinas, we are generally talking about mestizo, not sub-saharan black or nordic white. I can and do appreciate your thoroughness regarding this topic, but I made my original comment as a generality , not as scientific fact. I see Shakira as a fine ass mestizo (Hispanic or Latina), as would most Americans.

Post: #130

[quote='rudebwoy' pid='31724' dateline='1289450737']
My 2 cents having lived in the UK the last couple of years. Sweden is hands down a great place for brothas, not so great if you are African.

Agreed...Poor Immigrant African low-lifes and Army/Military Tools are responsible for alot of the bastardizaion of Black-American Hip-Hop Culture in many Euro spots I've been too and are WAY over the top in their expression and way of dress and thirstyness factor...They have seen too many Lil Wayne and 50 Cent videos...I try to avoid these type of spots like the plague when in Europe.

Ukraine but that alongside Romania would be my first point of call. Ukranian girls are hot and Kiev I have been told every 3rd girl is hot.

When are you trying to roll?

However, you are in very "foreign" land and will have no protection - meaning someone might get pissed off at you for many reasons.
1) Being American
2) Being Black
3) Having money.
4) Be able to bang our chicks with ease.

This is what has deterred me from visiting Ukraine and Russia. I have banged chicks from both spots and they tell me It wont be a problem but I'm not so sure. I would definitely visit Ukraine 1st since I havent heard any problems out of there but I definitely need to get some type of network or befriend a local guy who can have my back just in case. I would definitely stay at a High End hotel and since they dont require Visas and it's much cheaper than Moscow makes it all the better! Again when are you trying to roll?

There is a strong Anti-American culture in Europe (re; jealousy) which Roosh has written an article about. I am Canadian and always make an effort to wear some clothing that states the fact when travelling in Europe.

As a American-Black man I havent received any Anti-American treatment I think this has to do with the fact that I'm Black and people automatically assume that I do not agree with GWB Jr. policies and don't indentify with the tea-party folks therefore not down with mainstream White America is a plus in most Europeans eyes. I know white-guys who have though.

I think a respectable black american who is not a loud-mouth or an Army tool can do well in most parts of Europe. I dated a Czech girl, had a few Polish girls (in Canada) and Hungarian girls seem to like the black men.

Agreed...not enough of out here but the ones who have the means can make it happen.

Post: #131

To help understand Latin America, let's consider the top down command structure used by Spain to run its colonial machine.

Spanish colonial structure:

1. Peninsular - Born in Spain
2. [Country Name] (ie. Argentinian/Mexican) - Born in colony
3. Mestizo - Mixed with native blood
4. Indio - Indian descent
5. Negrito - Imported slave labor

Former Spanish colonies will have a different percentage distribution of this caste system. Power and wealth belongs to top. This model could be used to further understand Latin America.

Post: #132

Someone told me Russia is a goldmine for Brothas, but be careful cause I also heard that Russian men have been known to be violent against black men because of that.

Post: #133

(11-20-2010 07:25 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  Someone told me Russia is a goldmine for Brothas, but be careful cause I also heard that Russian men have been known to be violent against black men because of that.

Brothas should be very careful in Russian. I would characterize it as very hostile territory for any non white. It was the only place I felt uneasy in all of my travels.

Post: #134

(11-20-2010 07:25 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  Someone told me Russia is a goldmine for Brothas, but be careful cause I also heard that Russian men have been known to be violent against black men because of that.

Brothas should be very careful in Russia. I would characterize it as very hostile territory for any non white. It was the only place I felt uneasy in all of my travels.

Post: #135

But was the risk worth the reward??

Post: #136

I have seen a 2 hr documentary on racism in russia. Basically, if you don't look white, you're black. and balcks are hated there.

Post: #137

(11-21-2010 01:35 AM)Badstuber Wrote:  I have seen a 2 hr documentary on racism in russia. Basically, if you don't look white, you're black. and balcks are hated there.

I really need to ask a Russian babe in the US about this because each one that I know here chases after brothas and many take a brotha home to meet the family b4 marrying him. I'm thinking this racism must be driven by the men. I've also heard that a group of them would attack you there.

Post: #138

(11-21-2010 07:49 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(11-21-2010 01:35 AM)Badstuber Wrote:  I have seen a 2 hr documentary on racism in russia. Basically, if you don't look white, you're black. and balcks are hated there.

I really need to ask a Russian babe in the US about this because each one that I know here chases after brothas and many take a brotha home to meet the family b4 marrying him. I'm thinking this racism must be driven by the men. I've also heard that a group of them would attack you there.

Yes, all are men. Funny thing is that many of them are NEO NAZI'S while adolf hitlers men slaughtered the russians in ww2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLUxuq-E9yA

Post: #139

@Jaymillaz - well from what I gather they beat up "little" immigrants on the subway and shit like that. But personally I don't want to be on edge if I visit any place. My friend is a big dude ( 6'4" -220llbs) he goes there on business all the time - without any problems. I tend to like to travel solo but that is one place I would not do it, however my dream is to go there with a buddy one day.
I very much doubt they would attack a group of 3 men (any race) who are packing some muscle and look like they can throw some blows. Personally, I have been in a situation where I was up against 3 dudes - I stepped forward and they backed down. But violence is not my thing.!!

Post: #140

(11-21-2010 07:49 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  I really need to ask a Russian babe in the US about this because each one that I know here chases after brothas and many take a brotha home to meet the family b4 marrying him. I'm thinking this racism must be driven by the men. I've also heard that a group of them would attack you there.

The basic problem for brothas hittin' Russia is the "skinhead", neo-Nazi wannabes who travel in packs, and attack non-Russians. The thing to do is to have a contact who help you avoid the racist vermin there if you fly solo.

I think the best way to play it, is to line up your Russian chicks long before you drop down. Use the social networks, and online translators to communicate with potential targets. So, when you land, you have things pretty set up. Your targets will introduce you to their friends...thus you will have a ready-made social circle. You can pan out to the clubs (with your chicks) for additional targets.

Another possibility, is to line up targets online, and have them meet you in another country close to Russia (eg Turkey) for vacay.

Brothas -- what will score you the most points with Russian chicks is to be able to speak some coversational Russian. If you're dialin' for dyevs it's well worth the effort to learn.

****Note: The type of Russian chicks most into brothas are those that are down with sports like b-ball or football (soccer); also, Russian chicks into RnB/hip-hop, reggae, jazz, blues and salsa music are gonna be the most pro-Black.

Post: #141

(11-21-2010 11:37 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  @Jaymillaz - well from what I gather they beat up "little" immigrants on the subway and shit like that. But personally I don't want to be on edge if I visit any place. My friend is a big dude ( 6'4" -220llbs) he goes there on business all the time - without any problems. I tend to like to travel solo but that is one place I would not do it, however my dream is to go there with a buddy one day.
I very much doubt they would attack a group of 3 men (any race) who are packing some muscle and look like they can throw some blows. Personally, I have been in a situation where I was up against 3 dudes - I stepped forward and they backed down. But violence is not my thing.!!

They have attacked African diplomats from other foreign countries, academics who are either coming to study or teach and have killed a few as well.....and yes women are involved as well...Like the others have said the "skinny's" usually work in packs...I have all but given up on Russian interest...I can feel like that and go visit Western Texas or Alabama and save the money..I'll hit NY, Portland, Seattle, or Chicago if I want to conquer some bolshevik vag...

Post: #142

If you take away the Russian female's physical looks, I'm not sure they rank much higher than American women in terms of making good long-term relationship partners. They may even be worse, in my limited experience, assuming you are a Western male.

Post: #143

(11-20-2010 06:13 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  But was the risk worth the reward??

No it isn't. It isn't worth selling yourself out and taking abuse for pussy.

Even Russian pussy. Which is gold.

Post: #144

(11-21-2010 06:15 PM)subutai Wrote:  If you take away the Russian female's physical looks, I'm not sure they rank much higher than American women in terms of making good long-term relationship partners. They may even be worse, in my limited experience, assuming you are a Western male.

100% agree.

Post: #145

My Nigerian friend lived there for almost ten years, he studied there and worked afterwards. He loved it and when I met him in London he was a little sad, the thing that impressed me about him was the confidence that he had. I know he had a car, so I guess he never took the subway or walked the streets too much. His ex was truly amazing and he was close friends with her ex-KGB hubby. So he was rolling with a "heavy" and did not have to worry too much.

He told me a story how a sexy model approached him nervously in the mall, he ended up going out with her and she accepted the fact that he had a girlfriend. Let's not forget the official statistic for this place is 100 women for every 77 men, no other country comes even close to those numbers, plus the quality of men is not that great to boot.

Post: #146

(11-21-2010 07:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  My Nigerian friend lived there for almost ten years, he studied there and worked afterwards. He loved it and when I met him in London he was a little sad, the thing that impressed me about him was the confidence that he had. I know he had a car, so I guess he never took the subway or walked the streets too much. His ex was truly amazing and he was close friends with her ex-KGB hubby. So he was rolling with a "heavy" and did not have to worry too much.

He told me a story how a sexy model approached him nervously in the mall, he ended up going out with her and she accepted the fact that he had a girlfriend. Let's not forget the official statistic for this place is 100 women for every 77 men, no other country comes even close to those numbers, plus the quality of men is not that great to boot.

Where did you get the 77 number? According to this site, it's 86. It says it's also a little lower in Estonia. 84 males to 100 females. I think that might be a safer place to travel than Russia, though probably not by much.

I know there's a lot of Russian and EE women with pretty faces, but don't most of them have flat asses?

Post: #147

CIA website is stating 85 but I know a few years back when I checked it was 77. I am not the kind of person to shoot of facts. The EE' gals I have dealth with have always had fit firm bodies with nice tight round asses. Most of these girls are very athletic when they are young and it pays off.

Post: #148

The ratios are not accurate because it reflects the fact that Eastern European, esp. Russian, men drink themselves to death by the age of 50. Unless you want to swoop widowed grandmothers, then the ratio itself will be a lot more even in the 18-35 age range.

Post: #149

Instead of settling for the trash of other races, I say Black folks should try our hand at building our own cities in Africa. We'll no longer have to be under the constant and universal oppression of our enemies, the whites and their lackeys the asians, latinos, etc.

No city on earth is good for Black folk, and no city on earth ever will be until we either build our own, or conquer other races' cities by force and maintain them for ourselves (just like our enemies, the whites have done). I don't see the latter happening, and it's much more economical to do the former.

Post: #150

Time2Quit - i suggest you do what your name says!