Post: #7976

(03-30-2019 07:51 PM)The King Wrote:  Guys, we need to have a serious talk about this new algorithm.

I've been trying to run different experiments here and there, got some false positives, but mostly been falling flat on my face in terms of results lately.

I reset my tinder account today and got a grand total of 7 matches in over 2 hours. Contrast this with 25 matches in 1 hour a short while back. This is big deal.

I was killing it on tinder with multiple lays every week and now I've gotten no action in over 2 weeks. Painful to admit but it's true.

I need to sort this out real quick guys. I know they've been clamping down on account resets for a while but this is much worse. How is tinder boost holding up? Never purchased boosts but are they essential now?

If anyone with experience wants to chime in/offer advice in secret please tell me. One thing we should all consider is that every trick we talk about on here is visible to the public. This makes it so that a) Every guy on tinder copy-pastes and ruins our strategies, and b) Tinder knows how we're exploiting their app to get laid.

I'm considering making some kind of group chat outside of the forum for members to speak freely about tinder and keep everything within the community.

PM if interested.

The "new" algorithm is effectively the same.

Resetting your account is not recommended because you get no noob boost and you will probably be shadowbanned eventually.
(Unless you use proper reset procedure that requires a new phone number but at that point it's more like creating a new account instead of "resetting")

I find the notion ridiculous that we should talk in secret about this stuff when there are more than 3 million users on tinder.

People need to stop it with the conspiracy/algorithm theories.

90% of tinder success is going to be how attractive your profile is + your location. You can include in this your texting game and using features such as boosts.

If your results changed dramatically it means you probably have been hurt by resetting too much..

The only way to "reset" is using a new phone number and not linking your google/apple id if you use tinder plus.

Easiest way to do this is using the sign up option on tinder.com with the phone number option. (If it's not available in your country, just change your location before creating account)

Post: #7977

Interesting that you share that link. I've used that website to figure out about Google account resets.

Tinder have limited (as of a few months) how many times you can restore a purchase on one account. I think it may be 15-20 times. I reach the limit every month.

The date that the article was posted was in September 2018 though. That's odd for me, because I only started using tinder again in October and have been killing it right until mid February. If resets really are dead then it's a recent thing (2019).

I'm sleeping now. If anyone wants to reach out to me send a PM.

Post: #7978

I won't claim I know everything about tinder but there is definitely a "feel" I get when something is wrong with my account.

From my own experience I would say there are 4 states your account can be in from best to worst:

-Noob boosted: This is when you open your account or arrive in a new location. Your profile is highly visible and you get more matches than normal at a faster rate.

-Normal: The state everyone is in after the 48h noob boost is over. Results vary dramatically depending on your attractiveness and location.

-Reduced visibility: This can happen temporarily to anyone if you don't message anyone for prolonged periods of time, but as soon as you message someone you are back to "normal.
Can also happen in a more permanent way if your right swipe to left swipe ration is too generous or if your profile is deemed too unattractive (low elo).

-Shadowban: This can happen for a multitude of reasons but the most common ones are using third party apps like fake gps to change location too often or too many account resets. Symptoms of this state include infinite swiping and never matching with anyone (can only match with other shadowbanned users).

Tinder plus and tinder gold do not have any effect on the visibility or elo of your account (at least directly).

Boosts seem to also have an effect on who you are shown to and might show you to people outside of your "elo" range.
But to be honest I'm not a big fan of any paid features on tinder.

Post: #7979

^ Love the username.

I'm going to make a new account in the coming weeks. Will see if anything has changed

Post: #7980

First boost used. I got 17 matches in the 30 minute period. Seems like the same as a noob boost but doesn't last as long.

I used another immediately after and got less matches. Maybe tinder looks out for this. Anyway I've got 8 boosts left so 1 boost a day for 8 days then I'll report back.

I'm still confident that I can find a way to circumvent the clamp down on resets. Does anyone know how recently the new algorithm came in? If it's any time before this week then I may have already found another method.

Post: #7981

For resets - grab 10 google voice numbers from a vendor on the internet and use them to create a new account every 4-6 weeks.. this + boosting = the only way to make tinder easy and scalable right now.

Re: boosting, I spend prob 200-300/mo on boosts.. all girls come straight to my place for the bang.. just a cost of doing biz. Way cheaper than that amount of money I'd spend getting this many girls otherwise.

Post: #7982

@Affnomad

I agree, tinder seems way more cost effective even after factoring boosts. That's why I like it so much.

Ordering girls like some fast food doesn't hurt either.

Edit: Any tips on what days of the week/time of the day to use boosts?

Post: #7983

(03-31-2019 03:53 PM)AffNomad Wrote:  For resets - grab 10 google voice numbers from a vendor on the internet and use them to create a new account every 4-6 weeks.. this + boosting = the only way to make tinder easy and scalable right now.

Re: boosting, I spend prob 200-300/mo on boosts.. all girls come straight to my place for the bang.. just a cost of doing biz. Way cheaper than that amount of money I'd spend getting this many girls otherwise.

How many bangs a month are you getting off $200/300 a month on boosts? Regardless, I'm sure its still more cost effective and effort effective (lol) than going out to a bar or clubs to meet them.

I recall when boost first came out, I bought 20 (~$50). I turned that into about 20 - 25 bangs.

Obviously, boost isn't quite as effective as it used to be, but i'm curious as to what the yield on ~100 boosts a month is.

Post: #7984

At some point, isn't it hard to keep track of all the leads generated by boosts? I remember a period when I used them pretty heavily, a couple of years ago. It was nice getting lots of matches but talking to the girls was practically a part-time job. The majority of matches went stale very quickly. I guess if you combine them with Tinder Gold it's a different matter, since you can just pick the hotter ones... but that's spending a lot of money on Tinder.

Post: #7985

Day 2 of boosting on tinder complete

Decided to test out using 2 boosts again and been getting some good traction. Seem to be matching with hotties almost exclusively which is fantastic.

Got some new girls lined up already, and gonna save a few boosts for Friday and Saturday nights (best time for instant sex in my experience)

Post: #7986

(04-01-2019 05:03 PM)The King Wrote:  Day 2 of boosting on tinder complete

Decided to test out using 2 boosts again and been getting some good traction. Seem to be matching with hotties almost exclusively which is fantastic.

Got some new girls lined up already, and gonna save a few boosts for Friday and Saturday nights (best time for instant sex in my experience)

When you boost, do you swipe during the boost? Or wait until its done to swipe?

Post: #7987

Generally 2-3 new girls /week, can be more depending on luck and time spent on it.

Best times for me are Fridays and Saturdays 7-8pm and onward. Am in Los Angeles and have excellent logistics, your mileage may vary

(03-31-2019 04:05 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 03:53 PM)AffNomad Wrote:  For resets - grab 10 google voice numbers from a vendor on the internet and use them to create a new account every 4-6 weeks.. this + boosting = the only way to make tinder easy and scalable right now.

Re: boosting, I spend prob 200-300/mo on boosts.. all girls come straight to my place for the bang.. just a cost of doing biz. Way cheaper than that amount of money I'd spend getting this many girls otherwise.

How many bangs a month are you getting off $200/300 a month on boosts? Regardless, I'm sure its still more cost effective and effort effective (lol) than going out to a bar or clubs to meet them.

I recall when boost first came out, I bought 20 (~$50). I turned that into about 20 - 25 bangs.

Obviously, boost isn't quite as effective as it used to be, but i'm curious as to what the yield on ~100 boosts a month is.

Post: #7988

I deleted tinder, because of lack of results. I am average. I get all these girls that are 4's or 5's. I don't do obesity well...

I'm looking at going paid. It should work right? If it doesn't work, the guy deletes tinder permanently out of frustration and never comes back... It's a small cost.

What are your experiences paying? And what's the best thing to do with regards to that?

I'm at wit's end with tinder. And I'm looking at paying for Bumble depending on ROI.

Post: #7989

(04-02-2019 12:12 AM)Heuristics Wrote:  I deleted tinder, because of lack of results. I am average. I get all these girls that are 4's or 5's. I don't do obesity well...

I'm looking at going paid. It should work right? If it doesn't work, the guy deletes tinder permanently out of frustration and never comes back... It's a small cost.

What are your experiences paying? And what's the best thing to do with regards to that?

I'm at wit's end with tinder. And I'm looking at paying for Bumble depending on ROI.

If you have close to no results with the free version don't expect paying to change that. What paying does is give you more visibility (boosts) so you get results at a faster rate.

If you really want to try it for yourself I recommend tinder plus + boosts.

Tinder gold doesn't seem worth it.
Online apps are 90% dependent on your looks and location.

Post: #7990

Granted i'm in shitty location although it is a place with ample women b/c of universities.

I don't think I look bad, it's just i have the build of a fucking rugby player.

Plus, plus boosts means what exactly?

edit: i'm looking at deleting and then making with a new number. Thus giving me a complete clean slate.

Post: #7991

(04-02-2019 12:50 AM)Heuristics Wrote:  Granted i'm in shitty location although it is a place with ample women b/c of universities.

I don't think I look bad, it's just i have the build of a fucking rugby player.

Plus, plus boosts means what exactly?

edit: i'm looking at deleting and then making with a new number. Thus giving me a complete clean slate.

Tinder plus is a monthly subscription, it doesn't really increase your success directly, it's more quality of life changes, most important one is removing the swipe limit so you can swap on more people.

Boosts are the "pay to win" feature since they show your profile to more people.

But if you don't have an attractive profile even with increasing visibility it's going to be hard for 6+ girls to swipe right on you let alone agree to go out.

The best thing you can do is at least make your profile as attractive as possible, (Use the best photos you have and if they are mediocre then take some good photos).

If you put minimal effort in your profile and you are ugly to average you will have to punch below your league. And that's not what anyone wants to do.

Creating a new account is usually a good idea, be sure not to use the same facebook account/number or google play store account/ios if you ever bought premium tinder.

Post: #7992

You get a complete clean start if you delete and reregister with new phone number right? That's what I'm thinking a new phone does. It's like you were never in their system.

So plus gives you unlimited swipes? I don't need that, only a finite number of swipes here.

I need to be shown to more people, or in other words, be put in the front of the line...

We're getting to the good stuff. My profile is weak. I need better photos or more intriguing/ fun photos to be exact.

Yes, medium-low effort means mediocre results... Got it.

Thanks.

Post: #7993

(04-02-2019 01:02 AM)Heuristics Wrote:  You get a complete clean start if you delete and reregister with new phone number right? That's what I'm thinking a new phone does. It's like you were never in their system.

Yep. I keep a cheap Android phone as my "Tinder phone". When I feel like resetting I delete the account, uninstall, wait for a few days, buy a new SIM card and start over.

Quote:So plus gives you unlimited swipes? I don't need that, only a finite number of swipes here. I need to be shown to more people, or in other words, be put in the front of the line...

Tinder Plus gets you unlimited swipes + undo (in case you swipe left by accident) + the ability to switch location and swipe in other cities. If you're looking for more exposure, it's not worth it.

Try buying a pack of boosts. Use them between 6PM and 10PM on Wed-Fri (when girls are lonely and swiping after school/work). That's the best way to ramp up on matches, and it's worth it when your profile isn't blessed by the Tinder algorithm.

Post: #7994

Quick question: If I made a new account with a phone number and then provided email ID and google payment from my previous account, will Tinder recognize me and use my previous ranking for the new account?

Got 15 matches on the first day and then getting zero in my Tinder Gold list, haven't swiped much but I was expecting a lot more girls in the golden list.

Post: #7995

@Fornication

Yes, tinder will recognise you if you restore purchase with a membership from a previous account. Just nake a new Google account, and start a fresh subscription with Tinder.

Linking your instagram account also has the same effect if I remember correctly. Spotify may but I'm not sure.

Post: #7996

(04-02-2019 08:20 AM)The King Wrote:  @Fornication

Yes, tinder will recognise you if you restore purchase with a membership from a previous account. Just nake a new Google account, and start a fresh subscription with Tinder.

Linking your instagram account also has the same effect if I remember correctly. Spotify may but I'm not sure.

This is certainly something new. I've made new accounts before by just providing a new number. Only this time I was asked to provide email ID as well for signing up and the moment I used an old id, I got a message that your account already exists.

Tinder team might as well go Facebook route where it can detect device number, IP address and facial recognition to anti-game us.

Post: #7997

So I picked up a new burner phone today and a prepaid card... I should be good to go right? Someone posted that if you link insta, it could have an adverse effect on your account, or they may find out about old accounts. Any measure of truth to that? If so, I'll avoid linking insta.

Post: #7998

Shocked to read how much money is being spent on boots here. If this common among men, then it’s no wonder I get no views or right swipes. It’s become an arms (finger) race.

Post: #7999

(04-03-2019 12:50 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Shocked to read how much money is being spent on boots here. If this common among men, then it’s no wonder I get no views or right swipes. It’s become an arms (finger) race.

An attractive profile triumphs all.

Make a profile with an ugly/unattractive guy and spend as much money as you want boosted.

Make another profile with an attractive profile and don't spend a cent.

The attractive profile will win by a landslide.

If you get no right swipes it is because you have an unattractive profile and/or your tinder location sucks, simple as that. Some people don't want to accept this.

Post: #8000

I don’t think the main complaint is zero matches, it’s not getting nearly as many matches as you used to.

If a profile has been able to amass several thousands matches on tinder before, and you suddenly drop to a handful a week, it’s not that you suddenly became unattractive overnight or the male competition exponentially increases, it’s that the site fundamentally changed so you are getting fewer matches to drive more spend in their app.

If you never got matches from the start. Then your pics/profile could use improvement. But the fact that many guys report of large success on some apps, and major failures on others suggest it’s not looks that’s the issue. It’s the apps and the science behind them that have changed to be against our favor. The user base across the dating apps largely overlap. So if you’re ugly, you will struggle on all - not do well on some, but struggle on others.