Wake me up when a new app puts Tinder to shame.

I'm sure the next level of Tinder P4P is going to be where we pay to have our profiles put at the top of the stack so they're more visible to the left swiping attention whores

After 12-hour limit expired I was able to like 208 profiles and pass on 3145 with Liker.
Thus it seems that Tinder still allows unlimited passes and limit of likes is not some specific number same for all accounts.
Setting device clock ahead, of course, does not allow to work around limit any more.

(03-03-2015 10:19 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  Can you get around this swipe limit by simply not updating the app? It seems that unless you want to pay for Plus, there's no benefit to the update anyway.

I did notice a girl I matched with posted a moment of Tinder preventing her from swiping right for 12 hours, so it does happen to women as well. Major turn off.

I deleted the app and downloaded the old version 3.2.0. Don't know if this is going to make my profile less seen.

(03-03-2015 12:26 PM)Clark Wrote:  After 12-hour limit expired I was able to like 208 profiles and pass on 3145 with Liker.
Thus it seems that Tinder still allows unlimited passes and limit of likes is not some specific number same for all accounts.
Setting device clock ahead, of course, does not allow to work around limit any more.

Supposedly the limit is now X swipes/minute.

(03-03-2015 12:53 PM)bigbait Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 12:26 PM)Clark Wrote:  After 12-hour limit expired I was able to like 208 profiles and pass on 3145 with Liker.
Thus it seems that Tinder still allows unlimited passes and limit of likes is not some specific number same for all accounts.
Setting device clock ahead, of course, does not allow to work around limit any more.

Supposedly the limit is now X swipes/minute.

I just experimented myself. I swiped no about 200 times, yes 100 times, got 14 instant matches and then got told to wait 12 hours. Slightly interesting I can still swipe no if i want to.

I always knew that the days would come where tinder tried to monetize itself, but I never thought it would be for an absurd $15/month. How desperate do you have to be to pay for that?

I see $20 a month

Fuck Tinder. OKC and POF has free unlimited messaging and a wide variety of bitches I can choose from. Tinder won't be getting my $9.99 every month.

Apparently if you are older than 29 they charge you double in the US. Oh well, Ive always had better luck on OKC and POF anyway, though that is probably largely looks related.

What a huge failure for tinder. Charging 19.99???

I deleted my account.
I was mostly swiping left anyway and even then bored with whoever I matched with most of the time.

Time to accelerate my 100 approaches and compare my results (w/ my online results).

Finally hit the ran out of likes bullshit.

Thank god I've got good leads for now. Honestly I'm down for a break.

I wonder if girls get charged for wanting unlimited likes?

People will pay it though, guaranteed.

They'll have done a lot of research into this and they clearly think that enough people will pay to make it worthwhile. They must also believe that they won't lose a significant number of people.

It's actually quite smart to have the tiered pricing as people 28/30+ in general have more disposable income, have a smaller social circle and are more time poor. Therefore Tinder has lots of advantages for them and they have the income to make paying for it not a burden.

People in their early to mid 20's though will generally have large social circles still from high school, university or sports, will be going out more and in general have more spare time to meet people. Therefore paying for Tinder is not as attractive a prospect for them.

^ I get their reasoning, but there's no way it should cost more than twice as much as netflix.

I'm horrible at juggling leads between OKC and Tinder. I usually will settle into one or the other. I've been back on Tinder the last couple days and even though it's not nearly what it used to be a year or so ago it's still so much less soul sucking and desperate than OKC. Just my two cents, YMMV.

(03-03-2015 04:34 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Finally hit the ran out of likes bullshit.

Thank god I've got good leads for now. Honestly I'm down for a break.

I wonder if girls get charged for wanting unlimited likes?

I feel you Kaotic. Like what we talked about in my thread on burnout, breaks are necessary and keep us all fresh and in the game. I know I'm only good for another week or two of this before I go into exile and swear off online dating. Until it all happens again

(03-03-2015 05:17 PM)Roardog Wrote:  People will pay it though, guaranteed.

They'll have done a lot of research into this and they clearly think that enough people will pay to make it worthwhile. They must also believe that they won't lose a significant number of people.

It's actually quite smart to have the tiered pricing as people 28/30+ in general have more disposable income, have a smaller social circle and are more time poor. Therefore Tinder has lots of advantages for them and they have the income to make paying for it not a burden.

People in their early to mid 20's though will generally have large social circles still from high school, university or sports, will be going out more and in general have more spare time to meet people. Therefore paying for Tinder is not as attractive a prospect for them.

It's not going to work. (Lol at it no longer being featured in the Best New Apps category in the app store)

Businesses are wrong all the time. And they let greed affect their decision making, which is a big reason why a lot of companies go down.

Look at Netflix. Everything was cool until they were going to change the pricing plans, come out with a whole new separate service called Quickster or some shit, basically confused everyone, pissed off existing users - I think that lasted a week, two at most, and the outrage was enough for the CEO to completely change course. Ironically what saved them were the tv shows as they were initially banking on their movie catalog but it's limited as fuck. Binge watching TV saved Netflix and their whole debacle.

The difference though is that, although you have on demand, and red box, and some other low level threats - Netflix is still pretty much the go to for streaming entertainment. It's not quite a monopoly, but it's doing pretty well in this climate.

There are plenty of free apps that do exactly what Tinder does. And after this failure on their part, will be plenty more. There's just no way Tinder can compete against companies that will provide the same service but for free.

Yes, Tinder had social media on its side. And it became more mainstream than some of the other dating apps, but that's over now. Like I said in my earlier post, Tinder isn't "cool" anymore. And if you're not seen as cool in the eyes of the younger generation (the bulk of their base) you're finished. No business has come back from the "lame" tag, and right now most people agree Tinder is lame.

Tinder was losing steam before the payment plan - bots, low match rate, attention whores, etc - this just sped up the process significantly.

They *will* see a small bump obviously as $10+ is greater than 0, but they will be so irrelevant within the next few months it won't be worth it.

Who the fuck is going to pay $10 a month for what you can get for free elsewhere? Really.

^ I know a handful of real life guys that couldn't get a date to save their life before Tinder.

You put them back on the streets, I think many will pony up $10 to get back with another 6.

(03-03-2015 05:46 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ I know a handful of real life guys that couldn't get a date to save their life before Tinder.

You put them back on the streets, I think many will pony up $10 to get back with another 6.

But we can assume most women are not going to pay the fee. So they will be EXTRA calculated now when swiping. Left or right, as I believe the limit is not based on which direction but rather how many people you swipe through. You really think girls are gonna pay $10 a MONTH when they already swipe left on over 70% of profiles? What kind of woman is gonna be hanging around Tinder?

Paying the fee also doesn't automatically mean you have a better chance at getting laid. It just now charges you for that chance. If you still have shitty pictures and no game, you're not gonna get anywhere.

Those dudes who say "fuck it, might as well give it a try" will pony up for a month...two at most, before frustration kicks in and they join the rest of us who are done with the app.

I'd be more willing to agree with some of you who are taking a more glass half full approach to this thing if it wasn't for the fact that every other competitor offers what they offer for free.

(03-03-2015 05:38 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:34 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Finally hit the ran out of likes bullshit.

Thank god I've got good leads for now. Honestly I'm down for a break.

I wonder if girls get charged for wanting unlimited likes?

I feel you Kaotic. Like what we talked about in my thread on burnout, breaks are necessary and keep us all fresh and in the game. I know I'm only good for another week or two of this before I go into exile and swear off online dating. Until it all happens again

Honestly, this sounds beta but I'm enjoying more of my time with my main, besides the random pussy, I'm not screaming first world problems about this, it was bound to happen, and chumps will pay for it.

It's a business model at the end of the day and we have to accept it, you want to know what doesn't cost money ? Approaching girls in public, for free.

I think we all get sucked into the online dating world too much, once in awhile, sometimes we're forced to go do better things. Which...isn't a bad thing at all.

(03-03-2015 05:46 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ I know a handful of real life guys that couldn't get a date to save their life before Tinder.

You put them back on the streets, I think many will pony up $10 to get back with another 6.

Exactly, it cripples their social/dating skills IRL. Unfortunately I know some guys who tried out tinder, don't understand it, and couldn't get a date on it.

I explained my guidelines to online dating and their minds were blown as if almost insulted that what they were doing was the opposite.

There is 10 times more men on Tinder then females. Even if half drop off the other half will still be thirsty to pay. People think this is unjust but Tinder has been able to quantify thirst. I warned about this many pages back and now dudes are starting to see it for what it is. A woman can still be extra picky and line up 7 dates a week, she won't really be that affected by the paywall which is purely supposed to target and charge men. Tinder has been wack since they change the algorithm in late 2013, then the bots started after and it all went to shit.

Dudes underestimate the thirst. The thirst is real.

(03-03-2015 08:08 PM)kosko Wrote:  There is 10 times more men on Tinder then females. Even if half drop off the other half will still be thirsty to pay. People think this is unjust but Tinder has been able to quantify thirst. I warned about this many pages back and now dudes are starting to see it for what it is. A woman can still be extra picky and line up 7 dates a week, she won't really be that affected by the paywall which is purely supposed to target and charge men. Tinder has been wack since they change the algorithm in late 2013, then the bots started after and it all went to shit.

Dudes underestimate the thirst. The thirst is real.

Agree. Tinder may well end up being a "men pay, women play" site. I can imagine:
1. That guys could get unlimited swipes, but when they get a match, they have to pay to initiate a conversation.
2. That you get limited swipes unless you pay. They could even set up tiers. $10 month = 10 swipes/day. $20 / month = 50 swipes a day.
3. Paying enough money allows you to initiate conversations with any woman, even if you haven't matched.

The basic model of dating is to get a man to pay for a woman to be entertained. The model of online dating is to disintermediate that - get into the flow of money and take a percentage off what the guy is paying.

I've seen people complain on this forum about day game and other types of game dying, but it's not. All these online dating sites will always have 10x more guys than girls, and the 6 is suddenly a 9 in this environment. If you're banging 6's off of Tinder, I guarantee you the same guy could get 8 and 9's with solid day and/or night game. In fact, face to face interaction is becoming more of a rarity these days and if you're able to initiate it then you are way ahead of the curve.

I use Tinder. But mostly as a time waster. Shouldn't be the primary avenue to meet girls since the marketplace is skewed so harshly in the woman's favor. It scares a lot of guys to approach the hot girl on the street. But if you're willing to do that, you're golden.

Another test. 12 hours passed...
Liked 182 disliked 3934 before 'Out of Likes' appeared.
No matches.