Post: #76

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Post: #77

(12-29-2012 11:40 PM)kosko Wrote:  You can't work in SoCal/LA without going through the standard testing procedures which are done out of only a few labs I believe.

Evreybody from your bottom barrel garage operation to the big time studios all get their testing done by these Labs which gives a set of results which you have to produce prior to filming. This is the huge fallacy that people think that Pornstars are somewhat "dirty". They get paid to fuck, so why would the compromise this by getting STDs?

You do have a point when you say that the porn industry is not as STD-riddled as some claim, but you also make some wildly overoptimistic assumptions.

You can't take a syringe, extract 1 pint of blood from a patient, and expect that there will *never* be false negatives. If you catch HIV, it can take weeks till you test positive in a blood test. Detecting Herpes through a blood test is not trivial. Same for Chlamydia. Both require amplification via PCR. When people talk about STD's, they usually think of HIV, hepatitis, syphilis, gonorrhea. Virtually everyone in the porn industry has herpes, but no one seems to care about it.

The goal of the porn industry's labs is to convince the regulators and the authorities that they're doing all they can. The problem is that it would take infinite amounts of money to actually suppress STD's completely. This is not feasible, so the porn industry agrees on how much money the problem is worth, they spend that amount, and live with the fact that there will be false negatives. Just as long as epidemics are prevented, it's all good.

Post: #78

Now, how much does the average semi-attractive girl in college get fucked and raw dogged? Now,how much is she spending to make sure she doesn't get false positives? Or even go through the motions to get checked out to begin with?

Don't lie. How many of US, regularly go to the doctor for stuff like that.
I raw dogged way more than I used condoms.
I only got tested when a a girl I was messing with told me she might have picked up HPV.
Before then. I was already in the double digits before I got checked. ( I checked out clean )

Porn stars get tested once a month and have to get slips from doctors. Every now an then something shady happens...the same as in the "real" world

But, I feel like when you try to hype the porn industry as a std ridden filth pool, even when the evidence is against it...You are ignorantly ignoring the facts of how the non porn industry conducts itself.
You don't want to accept, that you have a higher chance of picking something up, than these people who society supposedly stigmatizes

Post: #79

Gianna Michaels doesn't do anal as far as I know, at least I haven't seen any videos of her doing it, (to my disappointment).

As far as STDs in the porn world, I seem to hear conflicting reports, although I think I read online and have heard that almost all pornstars have herpes and don't disclose it and they don't test for it, only syphillis, gonhorea, and HIV.

It does seem that there have been outbreaks of HIV in the past few years, which would freak me out if I was doing porn, but I think it may have been guys who are "bi-sexual" and doing gay porn on the side, and women who got it from those guys doing anal scenes. Which makes me wonder if doing anal scenes really increases the chances of contracting HIV, and if that applies to men as much as women.

While I am a fan of anal, I do think they are taking some of this stuff to way too far of an extreme, and those anal prolapse videos are just fucking disgusting and when I regretfully and unintentionally saw that, it made my dick soft and I felt like I had to vomit. I'm still not quite sure what that is and don't want to know, but I'm guessing some of those chicks are going to have serious medical problems in the future.

Post: #80

Gianna has done anal on camera:

http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/article...15-312.cfm

Post: #81

I saw a clip on a talk show with that guy Dr. Drew telling a younger porn star that she'll have to wear a diaper after 30 if she keeps taking it up her cornhole like they do.

Here's Gianna's anal scene.
http://www.youporn.com/watch/7779072/gia...-asses-15/

Post: #82

(12-29-2012 06:45 PM)Vicious Wrote:  I wish Steve Holmes would have knocked her teeth out.

To me Gianna symbolizes the downfall of porn. A chubby shit-talker can live on getting fucked on camera? The apocalypse!

You obviously can't handle her shit talking and slaps if you're not into that clip Vicious

Post: #83

(12-30-2012 01:08 AM)houston Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 06:45 PM)Vicious Wrote:  I wish Steve Holmes would have knocked her teeth out.

To me Gianna symbolizes the downfall of porn. A chubby shit-talker can live on getting fucked on camera? The apocalypse!

You obviously can't handle her shit talking and slaps if you're not into that clip Vicious

I don't know why either. Your'e Swedish...I thought you guys were use to women walking all over you


low blow...I know..

Post: #84

(12-30-2012 12:45 AM)houston Wrote:  I saw a clip on a talk show with that guy Dr. Drew telling a younger porn star that she'll have to wear a diaper after 30 if she keeps taking it up her cornhole like they do.

Here's Gianna's anal scene.
http://www.youporn.com/watch/7779072/gia...-asses-15/

Simple solution, she can put diapers on her wish list.

Post: #85

Sourcecode:

I never have problems with women "walking over me". I see a lot of that whining on this board however from... Yeah that's right.

To me this woman represents the worst of feminism. An entitled, histronic loud mouth. She might do porn but that does not take away her SCUM fan club card these days. I guess the fact that she's a slut attracts many. The same people who in other threads complain about women "riding the cock carousel" and beinc ruined after taking a couple of dicks in her teens. In fact there's a lot of incongruency on this board in that regard. Classic madonna/whore complex.

Post: #86

(12-30-2012 02:44 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Sourcecode:

I never have problems with women "walking over me". I see a lot of that whining on this board however from... Yeah that's right.

To me this woman represents the worst of feminism. An entitled, histronic loud mouth. She might do porn but that does not take away her SCUM fan club card these days. I guess the fact that she's a slut attracts many. The same people who in other threads complain about women "riding the cock carousel" and beinc ruined after taking a couple of dicks in her teens. In fact there's a lot of incongruency on this board in that regard. Classic madonna/whore complex.

I think you're stretching your definitions, when you say that there is a lot of incongruency on this board.
Half the post in this thread seem like troll post. ( Half of mine are)
As adults, I think people can differentiate how you expect a porn star to act, compared to the women in our everyday lives.
Gianna's job is to be/act like a slut and get paid for it.
Film represents a facet of life..but at the end of the day..porn isn't real life

No one (here) is looking at porn stars as a source of a decent relationship or and ideal girl.
Its just a cheap ride. ( Don't pretend like you dont enjoy a slut)

I also think you're stretching your definitions, when you say that she is the downfall or porn or feminism at it's worst.
Again...She's a porn star. Not a classy lady to be wined and dined

** I it looks like the picture I posted of her earlier is gone- repost

Post: #87

So porn stars should not be shamed for being sluts but women we want to be relationship material should be shamed for being sluts.

Ok?

Post: #88

(12-29-2012 11:58 AM)RandalGraves Wrote:  The best I can give her...

Overweight.

Ugly.

Small head.

Whack trashy vibe

Bit tits make her a high 5.

I would not go for her in a club unless I was way drunk. But, now that I'm notching before NYE, of course I'd fuck her.

Post: #89

(12-30-2012 04:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:  So porn stars should not be shamed for being sluts but women we want to be relationship material should be shamed for being sluts.

Ok?

Like it or not, different people get held to different standards.

Are porn stars sluts? Yes most certainly, but what's the difference between a porn star who gets paid to fuck on camera and the girl you're dating who you slowly begin to suspect is pushing upwards of 50 cocks?

You know the porn star is a slut, the evidence is readily available to you, if you aren't a hopeless idiot you fuck her once and then vanish; you don't know that the girl you're dating is a slut, she will obfuscate and hide this from you at any cost. Sluts should not be trusted to be faithful and are only good for what they have been good for to guys in their past, but at least you know what you're dealing with when it comes to porn stars.

So yes, I do give porn stars a little more leniency on sluttiness, and I do not consider this hypocrisy.

Post: #90

She looks like a man or a member of G.L.O.W.

I'm going to hijack this thread and ask- out of all the women in G.L.O.W. which would choose to be inside of?

Post: #91

(12-30-2012 05:45 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 04:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:  So porn stars should not be shamed for being sluts but women we want to be relationship material should be shamed for being sluts.

Ok?

Like it or not, different people get held to different standards.

Are porn stars sluts? Yes most certainly, but what's the difference between a porn star who gets paid to fuck on camera and the girl you're dating who you slowly begin to suspect is pushing upwards of 50 cocks?

You know the porn star is a slut, the evidence is readily available to you, if you aren't a hopeless idiot you fuck her once and then vanish; you don't know that the girl you're dating is a slut, she will obfuscate and hide this from you at any cost. Sluts should not be trusted to be faithful and are only good for what they have been good for to guys in their past, but at least you know what you're dealing with when it comes to porn stars.

So yes, I do give porn stars a little more leniency on sluttiness, and I do not consider this hypocrisy.

In other words, we should encourages girls to speak out about themselves being sluts if they are one?

Post: #92

(12-30-2012 07:57 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 05:45 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 04:58 AM)Vicious Wrote:  So porn stars should not be shamed for being sluts but women we want to be relationship material should be shamed for being sluts.

Ok?

Like it or not, different people get held to different standards.

Are porn stars sluts? Yes most certainly, but what's the difference between a porn star who gets paid to fuck on camera and the girl you're dating who you slowly begin to suspect is pushing upwards of 50 cocks?

You know the porn star is a slut, the evidence is readily available to you, if you aren't a hopeless idiot you fuck her once and then vanish; you don't know that the girl you're dating is a slut, she will obfuscate and hide this from you at any cost. Sluts should not be trusted to be faithful and are only good for what they have been good for to guys in their past, but at least you know what you're dealing with when it comes to porn stars.

So yes, I do give porn stars a little more leniency on sluttiness, and I do not consider this hypocrisy.

In other words, we should encourages girls to speak out about themselves being sluts if they are one?

Basically, yes. Or at the very least, stop trying to cover up their true nature/desires.

I think what most men are tired of is the double standards and hypocrisy by women.

They say they want qualities possessed by beta men.

But what do they do? They ride the alpha cock carousel, doing the opposite of what they say they want.

Pure hypocrisy.

At least with pornstars, they don't hide what they do and they are upfront.

Post: #93

(12-29-2012 06:45 PM)Vicious Wrote:  I wish Steve Holmes would have knocked her teeth out.

To me Gianna symbolizes the downfall of porn. A chubby shit-talker can live on getting fucked on camera? The apocalypse!

Absolutely! If guys are jerking off to this imagine what they are fucking! This looks like the average Long Island/Staten Island smut here in NY. Nothing special at all.

I don't know about the shit talking but the woman is overweight. I was shocked when I saw that first picture. I'm aware of some pornstars given that I check out the latest softcore/erotic photography coming out of Europe like Met-Art, Hegre, Glamour, Femjoy, etc. I have a huge interest in photography so naturally I check for nude models. But most of these girls never go into porn. If you guys want to see real beauty check out one of those websites.

A friend sent me this the other day: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/vi...3PkW1pgGqa

How the hell does that woman have an audience? If that beached whale is a pornstar then I don't know what else to say.

Post: #94

The level of bullshit is getting to high in this thread. It's similar to the Kate Upton thread. Lots of guys claiming that they bang way better girls and or would spit on Gianna. I wonder what the hell you guys are doing her at the RVF.

If I were banging Playboy/bikini model type of girls like most of you seem to do I wouldn't waste a minute of time on online forums or watching PORN for that matter.

Highly contradicting all of this.

Post: #95

Neil,

It's a few times now that you've said that if a guy is doing very well with girls then he wouldn't be on RVF. I believe this is quite a silly comment.

Some guys live a life and espouse an attitude of humility and constant improvement. Just because someone is doing very well with girls does not mean he cannot learn something every single day re: foreign destinations, or gaming, or lifestyle from RVF.

What I think is kind of ridiculous is someone sitting on a computer thousands of miles away and speaking with such certainty about what some other guy would or would not bone.

If a guy says he's not down for Gianna, just take it at face value. Sure he may be full of BS, but there's no way we can know either way so let's just accept it and move on.

(12-30-2012 09:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  The level of bullshit is getting to high in this thread. It's similar to the Kate Upton thread. Lots of guys claiming that they bang way better girls and or would spit on Gianna. I wonder what the hell you guys are doing her at the RVF.

If I were banging Playboy/bikini model type of girls like most of you seem to do I wouldn't waste a minute of time on online forums or watching PORN for that matter.

Highly contradicting all of this.

Post: #96

(12-30-2012 09:48 AM)Technics Wrote:  Neil,

It's a few times now that you've said that if a guy is doing very well with girls then he wouldn't be on RVF. I believe this is quite a silly comment.

Some guys live a life and espouse an attitude of humility and constant improvement. Just because someone is doing very well with girls does not mean he cannot learn something every single day re: foreign destinations, or gaming, or lifestyle from RVF.

What I think is kind of ridiculous is someone sitting on a computer thousands of miles away and speaking with such certainty about what some other guy would or would not bone.

If a guy says he's not down for Gianna, just take it at face value. Sure he may be full of BS, but let's just accept it and move on.

(12-30-2012 09:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  The level of bullshit is getting to high in this thread. It's similar to the Kate Upton thread. Lots of guys claiming that they bang way better girls and or would spit on Gianna. I wonder what the hell you guys are doing her at the RVF.

If I were banging Playboy/bikini model type of girls like most of you seem to do I wouldn't waste a minute of time on online forums or watching PORN for that matter.

Highly contradicting all of this.

I don't think so. I don't think there are guys here on the forum who have amazing lifestyles full of model girls,big condos, lots of friends and what not.
Fact is that there are lots of loser type guys on this forum (yes, most are newbies) but the truth is that whenever I get some hate mail about my book it's always something like this: You can't get laid with beautiful girls back home thus you're a loser who needs to go abroad.

Well, granted I didn't only travel for girls and also wanted to see beautiful sights and experience other cultures and have some adventures there is a certain truth to that and I really fucking hate admitting it and it pisses me off real bad.

Now, sure I can laugh it away by saying some hate comment about feminists and the skewed dating market back home but in truth the haters are mostly right. I couldn't get really hot chicks back home and to be honest, it has improved a lot but I still can't measure myself with popular natural guys.

That is why I'm here at the RVF. To improve my life. And I do believe so is EVERYONE else here on this forum and that no one here actually is living the dream lifestyle. Sure, some might have it better then others but no one here is living that life.

Regarding the skewed ratings on the RVF. Yes, I'm aware that if I compare girls like Gianna or similar with girls from model websites such as Perfect 10 or the Hegre archives that they aren't really lookers but no fucking way would I and probably everyone else here on the forum say no to her in a bar and if it was a sure thing.

Oh and please quote the other way around. It looks like answer my own post.

Post: #97

Gianna Michaels is far from overweight, by conventional measures. She has a BMI of 21.5, at 5'10", 150, while a BMI of 25 is the conventional standard for being overweight. 21.5 is not fat for a female athlete or lifter. For a sedentary female, 21.5 is fat.

She could lose 5-10 lbs of fat, but she's just a big girl either way.

Post: #98

(12-30-2012 09:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  The level of bullshit is getting to high in this thread. It's similar to the Kate Upton thread. Lots of guys claiming that they bang way better girls and or would spit on Gianna. I wonder what the hell you guys are doing her at the RVF.

If I were banging Playboy/bikini model type of girls like most of you seem to do I wouldn't waste a minute of time on online forums or watching PORN for that matter.

Highly contradicting all of this.

It's pretty simple for me. I'm here because of I love to travel. Plain and simple. Travel + pick up. What's not to like? I was introduced to Roosh's blog/forum through a friend who gave me his Colombia guide which was pretty much on the money. That was a while back. I'm a long time visitor of the blog but just registered to the forum.

If you saw my post in the Kate Upton thread it pretty much mirrored your comment above. But that's Kate Upton. The girl in this thread this girl is average, nothing special. A chubby slutty tall white girl. They grow on trees here in the Long Island/Staten Island/NJ area. Nothing to appreciate.

But if guys like jerking off that..... well go right ahead

Guys don't even have standards when it comes to pornstars lol pretty hysterical IMO.

Post: #99

(12-30-2012 04:45 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  The level of bullshit is getting to high in this thread. It's similar to the Kate Upton thread. Lots of guys claiming that they bang way better girls and or would spit on Gianna. I wonder what the hell you guys are doing her at the RVF.

If I were banging Playboy/bikini model type of girls like most of you seem to do I wouldn't waste a minute of time on online forums or watching PORN for that matter.

Highly contradicting all of this.

It's pretty simple for me. I'm here because of I love to travel. Plain and simple. Travel + pick up. What's not to like? I was introduced to Roosh's blog/forum through a friend who gave me his Colombia guide which was pretty much on the money. That was a while back. I'm a long time visitor of the blog but just registered to the forum.

If you saw my post in the Kate Upton thread it pretty much mirrored your comment above. But that's Kate Upton. The girl in this thread this girl is average, nothing special. A chubby slutty tall white girl. They grow on trees here in the Long Island/Staten Island/NJ area. Nothing to appreciate.

But if guys like jerking off that..... well go right ahead

Guys don't even have standards when it comes to pornstars lol pretty hysterical IMO.

Crazy porn stars grow on trees in Long Island? That's funny because I didn't notice that when I was there.

Post: #100

(12-30-2012 04:55 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Crazy porn stars grow on trees in Long Island? That's funny because I didn't notice that when I was there.

Read the line again:

(12-30-2012 04:45 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  A chubby slutty tall white girl. They grow on trees here in the Long Island/Staten Island/NJ area. Nothing to appreciate.