Post: #1

This question, by a thirty year old guy asking how he could make sure he's not creepy in his college classes full of nubile younger women, seems like a good example of what the current gender-political climate is doing to guys.

What the fuck.

What is the world coming to, when guys feel they need to preemptively have a self criticism session on the Internet where they confess their horniness and supplicate to the feminist scolds for guidance on how to conduct themselves among women eight or so years younger than them?

You know what I want to say to this guy?  "Stop whoring yourself out for compliments from feminists and scolds. Getting pats on the back from a bunch of screechy manhaters, for renouncing your male libido, does not make you a better person."

Post: #2

Let the vagina censor his own interests. Leaves more for you and me.

Post: #3

C'mon man, the default assumption is that every girl on the internet is a fat and ugly attention whore, and every dude on the internet is a pathetic loser. If you believed that, you'd be right about 95% of the time. Most normal people have never heard of Reddit or Metafilter, let alone spend time on them.

Post: #4

Pathetic: Hi, I'm 30, back in school, surrounded by young girls, am I a creeper just for showing up to class? I'm considering either ripping my eyes out or just castrating myself so I don't offend these ladies, which do you recommend?

Chop off your balls, bitch!

Post: #5

Is this a surprise? 90% of guys are raised to be henpecked, fearful pussies who are ashamed of their own desires. It will destabilise the society, but for those of us in the know, the situation has never been better. He is too much of a bitch to date these young hotties? No problem, ill take them off your hands, bro.

Post: #6

Yup, take the red pill and women become transparent and 90% of guys turn into douchebags.

Post: #7

I don't see this as supplication. He's a grown man, that's been out in the world. He's going back to school and is around kids, even if some of them aren't minors anymore. And the minors don't act like minors or look like them. I think he's trying to keep his life free of complications more than anything else. He's there for business, and is just seeking out some advice on how to negotiate. He's probably still going to bang 20 and ups...

Post: #8

Quote:men out there, will we forever lust after 21-year-old college girls?

Post: #9

"God. Please forgive me for wishing to fulfill the biological destiny that you created for me. All these impulses which you put in my head for the sake of propogating your grand tapestry, I've tried to ignore. But it is so difficult. I know that you are trying to test me, and I want to be strong for you, but I'm afraid... Afraid that those things that I'm attracted to will attract me.

Please have mercy on my immortal soul.

Yours sincerely,

Man."

Post: #10

Here's a doozy of a response. I think that thread needs some expert trolling.

The hamster is strong in this one:

"I'm just gonna be brutally honest since you asked, but try not to take any of this personally, because it seems like you have a pretty normal dating life and are just kind of surprised by this new knowledge that you can get away with sleeping with hot young women.

I'm a 23-year-old bubbly just-about-college-age "sorority type" (I guess, though I'm currently applying to grad school) and the way your question is phrased kind of makes me feel a little pukey. It's not that you're attracted to younger women-- I have a hard time keeping my eyes off of girls in the summertime when everyone's barely dressed-- but your attitude in the question belies a view of younger women (as kind of negligibly-human carriers of fantastic racks and nice vaginas = great sex) that creeps me out.

I say this as a girl who dated a 40-year-old man when she was 19. We met in an academic environment and in retrospect, I do think of him as a creep for not being able to keep his hand out of the cookie jar. Really, I was just naive at the time and wanted sex with an exotic older guy, but basically the minute we stopped hooking up I looked at him as kind of... lame. This works in your favor if you just want sex, but if it would make you feel bad that a lot of girls will kind of pity/hate/laugh at you after you quit having sex with them, maybe don't do it. Said with a straight face.

Usually I wouldn't think of this as a productive AskMe answer and would keep my mouth shut, but since your question basically boils down to what it's okay for you to get away with... please, just don't act like you are in this question. Where it seems that you're just flat out objectifying younger women while also kind of disrespecting them on an intellectual level. Unless you like inadvertently inflicting minor-to-moderate psychological issues on younger women and being spoken of in whispers as the campus creep.

I know a lot of women will say that they like dating older men or that they did and they're fine or that they married one, and I believe it, but there's a pretty good chance that you're going to kind of permanently creep out some younger girl(s) you end up hooking up with. As in, she'll think it's cool at the time, and then for the next 5/10/15 years of her life just feel kind of disgusted by men over 30. Or she'll go into it thinking it'll be a fun NSA hook-up and then realize that you were kind of unconsciously disrespecting her the entire time and feel used and awful. Fact of life I guess.

But yeah, as an older man who is thinking about dating a woman just barely in the "acceptable" range, I think it's wise for you to think of younger women as real people, rather than an exciting fantasy extension of your previously assumed dating pool. Young women are sexy, but you know, they have feelings, and make bad choices, and aren't always super self-aware. If you click with a younger woman, don't feel self-loathing about it, and she seems clear-eyed about the whole thing, then it might be okay (but only might, to be honest). Twenty-three is pretty much when real self-respect and self-possession start to actually set in. If you were talking about 25-year-olds I would be less critical."

And all this bullshit over a 30-year old guy who wants to bang 20-somethings??? F'ing ridiculous....

Post: #11

The best part of the response in the post reply above me is how she begins and ends it. She says that she was basically clueless before, but now is self-aware and mature.

The relevant lines

Her entrance

Quote:I'm a 23-year-old bubbly just-about-college-age "sorority type"

and the money quote

Quote:Twenty-three is pretty much when real self-respect and self-possession start to actually set in.

Dunning Kruger Effect anyone? What a coincidence that the exact age you are now is when females suddenly and instantaneously mature.

This is a chick who is set up to be pumped and dumped for years. Each time thinking that she is so much wiser and can handle herself.

A self-sustaining hamster wheel if you will

Post: #12

That response has to be a joke. Someone please tell me it's a troll

Post: #13

The girl with that response is a dumbass, but asking the kind of question that this dude asked to a gaggle of internet people who have no personal investment in him means that he's going to get a bunch of answers where people gratify themselves.

This girl just took the opportunity to do that, to gratify herself at the expense of the dude. She's as brainless as she thinks she's not, but she gets a stage because the OP granted one to her.

Solution: encourage men to man up, show women that they're not special just because they're women, and keep on working toward the good things in life. Sometimes you come off creepy. Mainly its because women are hypervigilant, as mothers and as people who want to avoid being victims. They overclassify men as unsafe. Always have.

Post: #14

(12-23-2012 07:36 PM)basilransom Wrote:  C'mon man, the default assumption is that every girl on the internet is a fat and ugly attention whore, and every dude on the internet is a pathetic loser. If you believed that, you'd be right about 95% of the time. Most normal people have never heard of Reddit or Metafilter, let alone spend time on them.

Reddit was a nerd hangout when it was formed, but it's now one of the more popular sites on the internet (#66 in the US), with an increasing mainstream audience. By comparison, Gawker is 238.

Post: #15

I don't how it is for a upper-30 or 40+ dude going back undergrad courses, but....

I was 30 when I started graduate school (on campus but finished online) and it was great. I drove my car and parked in the spaces up front that allowed it after 5pm.

And...I still remember that school faculty chick on the first day that wanted to holla at me. She really did not pay my any attention until I asked about where my class is being held?

Once she asked for my course-number and I responded "Computer Science 653"....it was ON from there :-)

Of course I also asked "will my car get towed?" just for some extra spice :-)

Post: #16

Quote:Young women are sexy, but you know, they have feelings, and make bad choices, and aren't always super self-aware.

Amen!

Post: #17

(12-25-2012 08:06 PM)polymath Wrote:  She's as brainless as she thinks she's not[...]

Oh, how often this is true.