Post: #1

... hook up with another guy in the bar or club later that night?

To me this seldom happens. If a girl turns me down, I'll look over an hour or two later and she's usually still hanging out with her girlfriends all night. If I stay until closing I'll notice she's not leaving with a guy, just the friends she came with.

There are some girls who go out to bars and clubs yet for whatever reason are just not sexually available. Conventional PUA wisdom suggests you should "plow" as you can "win over" any girl. But it's far better to screen out these girls right away (ideally in less than 10 minutes) until you stumble upon a DTF girl.

I'm convinced a lot of girls go out just for the ego boost of shooting down guys all night.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

Maybe around 15%. In LA clubs there's generally more girls to guys say at least 4:1 or 5:1. If it's a top tier club it could even be 7:1. Stats alone there's not enough guys for every girl.

I see less of a girl rejecting me and hooking up with another cat and more of the social media monster pic taking n posting that girls do in clubs CONSTANTLY.

Post: #3

I've worked in nightclubs for the last 13 years and I can say that most women go out for validation.There is a slight minority who go out seeking cock but for the most part they wanna know if they "got it"...or "still got it".Thats not to say that the validation seekers can't be talked outta their panties(if their even wearing em) but they usually wanna see and be seen.

Post: #4

(12-21-2012 12:53 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  In LA clubs there's generally more girls to guys say at least 4:1 or 5:1.

Was that a typo? I'd love to know what clubs you're running around with ratios like that. From what I see it's closer to the opposite.

Post: #5

There was this "date rape" type bar in my city where I'd see things like that happen all the time. Me hooking up with a chick, getting a number, not hearing back, visiting that same bar 2 weeks later to see some chick go home with another guy.

When chicks ignore or reject me initially for most part, I let it slide and move onto next set of girls until I eventually stop with some chick who entertains me for an extended period of time. So I really don't see a girl who rejects me mainly bc I'm usually occupied with other people or women at a bar later on in the night.

Post: #6

(12-21-2012 12:53 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Maybe around 15%. In LA clubs there's generally more girls to guys say at least 4:1 or 5:1. If it's a top tier club it could even be 7:1. Stats alone there's not enough guys for every girl.

I see less of a girl rejecting me and hooking up with another cat and more of the social media monster pic taking n posting that girls do in clubs CONSTANTLY.

Got damn! I need to move to LA!!!!!

Post: #7

not often

Post: #8

When I was first starting out in the game I approached a hot girl in a club and we had a good conversation. Some guy kept hanging around us and leaving and returning. He basically cool to me but didn't say much. I assumed he had tried with her and got rejected. She told me that he was a jerk because he wouldn't buy her a drink, hinting that I should buy her one. I knew not to buy her a drink.

That was a quote I remembered from various PUAs: never buy her a drink.

I bought her a drink.

Because I was still a beta little bitch who was excited at the fact that a hot girl would talk to me when 3 months prior she wouldn't have given me the time of day.

At one point I was turning to leave to find my friends and went for her number. She said something like "yeah, you're cool!" and gave it to me.

Later that night I saw her making out with the guy who she called a jerk, the guy who didn't buy her a drink.

Lesson learned.

Post: #9

It happens occasionally. I'd say it's a fairly even split between "not interested in anyone" and "she's open, but your game wasn't good enough".

In my earlier days, it used to depress me, but the payoff is that now sometimes I am other guy.

Post: #10

Girls out at night fall into 3 categories:

Attention whores: 60% +

DTF: 10-15%

On the Fence: the remainder

But even girls who are DTF aren't DTF with just any guy- you will see them blow off guys until they are approached by a guy they want to fuck. For this reason, whether i have seen a girl reject guys is not one of the criteria i use to judge whether she is DTF