Post: #1

I remember having read a thread that I think touched upon this but I couldn't find it now. But this is something I've come to think of every now and then for a longer time.

Anyway, last Saturday I was at this semi-private party here in Colombia with two friends. I didn't really feel like going out since I want to do mainly day game plus the venue was rather high end which isn't really my thing, my energy levels were low, the music was too loud, too much people to walk around etc. So lots of things were against me.
But then it was almost like something snapped inside me. Countless times in my life prior to conscious game I have been to clubs and just wandered around not having anyone to talk to, not enjoying myself, feeling self-conscious etc. But I fucking hate that so I decided to step outside my comfort zone.

Now I wasn't really in competition with my friends this night and I don't want them to do poorly, but since it was me who took the first initiative to go and talk to girls, it was like they became second-fiddle to me and a bit shy and paralyzed. Edit: I have been these guys who lose initiative and momentum myself several times, that also helped me come to this insight.

Later when I was chatting up this very pretty girl (of the three I cold-approached that night) I could see other guys observing me in the corner of my eye and they were just perplexed. In Europe they would have been jealous too. I was exercising GAME and it was like they couldn't understand what was happening, they were so surprised. It was one of those moment when you could just feel the game.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is crucial to be the guy who starts hitting on girls first. This is true when you go out with friends just as much as when you go out alone like I usually do. From now on I will always strive to act fast and be the first guy who starts approaching during night game (but also in day game I have found through trial and error that it is never good to hesitate when you see a girl you like).

Post: #2

In a way, this is like the prisoner's dilemma.

Post: #3

Yes,

Momentum is so important. You can feel it sometimes. When you have it, keep it going and ride it. When you don't, take steps to spark.

I love momentum!

Post: #4

Momentum is my best friend.

Which is why if i'm rolling to Sobe or meatpacking I like to get there early.

Banter with the staff, open a few girls just to clown them, get in the right playful mindset.

The vibe becomes contagious. And if you're dressed sharp, its only a matter of time until talent is opening you.

Taking the initiative gets girls going. Display it directly or with subtlety, and doors and legs will open.

Post: #5

@ rationalize-this your style is like mine. I call it staying in motion. Stopping is death. If need be, I'll walk to the bathroom and chat up girls there and back.

Bathroom always have lines for females. Excellent place because they are stuck there and it's generally quieter than the rest of the club or bar.

Post: #6

(12-22-2012 03:37 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  Momentum is my best friend.

Which is why if i'm rolling to Sobe or meatpacking I like to get there early.

Banter with the staff, open a few girls just to clown them, get in the right playful mindset.

The vibe becomes contagious. And if you're dressed sharp, its only a matter of time until talent is opening you.

Taking the initiative gets girls going. Display it directly or with subtlety, and doors and legs will open.

Yeah, this is my Game.

When you have momentum, I feel can crack the ground and make the clouds come down.

Post: #7

@gmanifesto- and what about the burning bush and the sea parting? haha. poking fun, but you always speak so dramatically.

Post: #8

(12-22-2012 07:52 PM)DVY Wrote:  @ rationalize-this your style is like mine. I call it staying in motion. Stopping is death. If need be, I'll walk to the bathroom and chat up girls there and back.

Bathroom always have lines for females. Excellent place because they are stuck there and it's generally quieter than the rest of the club or bar.

Bathroom line game is one of my strongest.

No friends to drag them away, or garner their attention.

Smooth open, playful joke about her waiting for you when you're both done, you're in.

I'll never forget the Brazilian I pulled from the bathroom line at Mansion.

Tits for days. Tits for days.

Post: #9

I like to keep a watch on the bathroom line as well. If an interesting target queues up at the end, I will go get in line behind her and usually open with,

"Damn, this line... I hope you're not the type of girl who spends 10 minutes in there? I gotta go bad!"

-indirect opener (bathroom line)
-playful tease (type of girl who...)
-false time constraint (my "urgency" to just be done with the line)

Some will laugh and turn their bodies towards me for more than a moment. Game on for those girls. Ideally you need to escalate fast and hope you don't lose her by the time you and her do actually use the toilet, because you're going to need to find her again afterward. 0% of the time will they stick around and wait for you after going!

The rest generally give the cold shoulder or pretend they didn't even hear me, in which case I often will mumble "maybe I'll try the line again in a few minutes, see if it dies down" and bail from there... and try again a bit later, of course.

Post: #10

(12-22-2012 03:37 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  Momentum is my best friend.

Which is why if i'm rolling to Sobe or meatpacking I like to get there early.

Banter with the staff, open a few girls just to clown them, get in the right playful mindset.

The vibe becomes contagious. And if you're dressed sharp, its only a matter of time until talent is opening you.

Taking the initiative gets girls going. Display it directly or with subtlety, and doors and legs will open.

This. It takes a little while to get the momentum flowing. The sooner you start socializing with people, the sooner you can create some momentum. It usually takes 2-4 approaches for me to get it flowing. As Rationalize suggests, start talking to anybody and everybody. I walk out my front door and open the mailman, my neighbors, the gardeners, or whoever else is around to help get me warmed up.

Yesterday, I was in line with some old lady and she opened me, she was actually really funny and it helped to get me going socially.

Post: #11

(12-23-2012 02:06 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 03:37 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  Momentum is my best friend.

Which is why if i'm rolling to Sobe or meatpacking I like to get there early.

Banter with the staff, open a few girls just to clown them, get in the right playful mindset.

The vibe becomes contagious. And if you're dressed sharp, its only a matter of time until talent is opening you.

Taking the initiative gets girls going. Display it directly or with subtlety, and doors and legs will open.

This. It takes a little while to get the momentum flowing. The sooner you start socializing with people, the sooner you can create some momentum. It usually takes 2-4 approaches for me to get it flowing. As Rationalize suggests, start talking to anybody and everybody. I walk out my front door and open the mailman, my neighbors, the gardeners, or whoever else is around to help get me warmed up.

Yesterday, I was in line with some old lady and she opened me, she was actually really funny and it helped to get me going socially.

Yeah.

My first step when I go out is to hit is dope restaurant bar with two fly girl bartenders that love me.

They scream when I walk in, and everyone in the bar is like "who the hell is that guy dressed so sharp he could cut glass?"

I get a cocktail and a double espresso and rap out with the two fly girls.

Then start chopping any girls at the bar.

I have started my night 10 minutes prior.

Momentum achieved.

Post: #12

In my opinion, momentum occurs not just over the course of a night, but over the course of weeks also. Just to give a couple examples:

Ever notice how easy it is and how excited you are to go to the gym after you've done it for a week or two? Momentum.

Ever notice how easy it is to approach girls after you've done it in the days preceding? Momentum.

Ever notice how easy it is to get work done once you have started other work and have a certain routine which is efficient? Momentum.

"A rolling stone gathers no moss." - Some fly Roman dude

Post: #13

(12-22-2012 02:46 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Momentum is so important. You can feel it sometimes. When you have it, keep it going and ride it. When you don't, take steps to spark.

Yes, overcoming the initial inertia is often the most difficult part of the night.

When you apply force to get yourself started, you get the momentum for free.

Well-begun is half done.

Post: #14

@Gio- you crack me up man. Old ladies, mailmen, hahah.

I always start my night the same way. I bump some rap music and get dressed. I listen to some old school G's rap and rep about life and game.

G-manifesto has his double espresso and cocktails.

Whats your guys routine for the night?

Post: #15

Beers and playing guitar LOUD gets me ready.

Post: #16

(12-24-2012 05:34 PM)DVY Wrote:  Whats your guys routine for the night?

At night, I rest. Unless, I have a date.

Usually, I wake up feeling great. I eat breakfast and walk out my front door. I take a few deep breaths and calibrate myself to the day (weather, vibe of the city, game plan, "to do" list, etc.) I take a moment to reflect on my goals and purpose. I focus. I have momentum approaching girls because I have been doing it almost everyday for the last few years.

Sometimes, as I'm walking out, I look into the mirror and do this:





I might also do this:





Or this:





I call it "scream therapy". This gets the "juices" flowing.

Then, I get in my car and roll down the windows. I live near the ocean and I like the fresh ocean air in the morning. I might put some music on..


















Sometimes, I just like silence.

When, I step out of my car, its game on!