Post: #1

So this is a thanks to Roosh and everyone at RVF, while I have a long way to go I'm seeing some results that plain and simple would never have happened before if I didn't stumble upon this forum...

Last night I'm playing Poker and this fly Cuban chick is dealing. Now back in the day I probably would have just stared at her fawning over her or showering her with praise for being pretty but instead I was teasing her, flirting with her, I even called her out one time when he said something somewhat disrespectful/mean (she wasn't serious but I let her know it wasn't kosher). A floor manager was even telling her at one point how he would wife her, provide for, fresh flower every day, etc. It was obvious to me she wasn't into that, she looked at me with a look like "can u believe this guy" and i just smirked, looking at her like i would destroy that pussy everyday. So when she's done dealing she says something like I should stop drinking or wait for her to get off so we could drink together... I see her with coat on leaving like an hour later, I beeline it to her and its on.

I don't remember what I said to her but its established we'll get a drink, she waits for me while I go back to get my chips. We go into a bar in the casino (She's allowed to but I get the sense it's not encouraged and she's only doing it to get to know me), we're having a good time, I'm making her laugh a lot and she's witty too so it's fun. She was asking a lot about me and while I told her a little bit I was generally being sarcastic and withholding the truth; she's 9 years older than me, I never told her my real age and I did the "I teach Dolphins to seek out mines" bit when asked about my job. She actually believed me and was very attentive as I BS'ed about it for 5 minutes. I DHV a little about sports and travel and she has some interesting stories too, I would say we're enjoying each others company. I escalated by putting my arm around her waist, grabbing her hands, knee/thigh at different times, even did the "fix her hair thing" even though that shit was on point (that really seemed to get her attention) and she didn't resist to any of it.

She was only going to have 1 drink but when the waitress asked for another she looked to me asking if she should have another I of course nodded in approval and she paid this time. At one point some tall drunk guy was standing about 4 feet away from us staring at her, it was really awkward and obvious as we were a bit secluded on couches. When I realized this I said to him something like "whatcha doing buddy?" He says "just chilling" or something so I said something like "why don't you go and chill somewhere else" and he went back to the bar without saying anything. I could tell she was impressed with how I handled it and I was even thinking how good it made me look.

After all that we get some food and its more banter, making fun of people etc. She actually wasn't going to sit next to me but I made a comment and she complied, sitting next to me as we ate. Long story short its like 5:30am, she has 2 kids and has to go. She gets up to throw out our tray + trash and I pull out my phone as she's coming back, she laughs saying something about me asking for her # and I just give her my phone with the contact screen up. She complies + gives me her #, she leans in for a kiss on the cheek, I point to my cheek and she complies again kissing it. At this point she makes a statement and motions about how I'm very demanding/authoritative/manly or something like that.

Some thoughts I have is spitting game really is fun and the women enjoy it too. I could tell she really enjoyed me taking control of everything allowing her to play her feminine role. Latin/foreign chicks are the way to go, soo much more feminine... I probably gave her 1 or 2 unnecessary compliments but I wasn't acting like she was the best thing since sliced bread either. I genuinely was acting and talking confidently like we would hang out again and do stuff together. I probably should have tried to kiss her when our faces were about 10 inches away and gazing into each others eyes at one point in the club, I think she would have pulled away because I was drunk but I still shoulda tried. She was a solid 7.5, maybe an 8 with such a cute laugh... I'm hooked to game.

I was thinking about texting her today to say it was nice meeting her, had fun and maybe I would see her next weekend (she lives like an hour away from me). Thoughts, critiques?

Post: #2

Good post, nice to see you coming up on game. Next time GO FOR THE BANG!!

Post: #3

(12-15-2012 08:20 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  Good post, nice to see you coming up on game. Next time GO FOR THE BANG!!

D2G is right--go for the bang! Especially if the casino had a hotel. If you are a regular poker player--they sometimes have a player code for a cheaper room rate.
Hot Broad + alcohol + witty banter aka solid game + logistics = BANG!

Post: #4

Thanks, the bang would have been tough as she's not allowed in the rooms where I was staying and she had 2 kids at home. I think I did good to get the "insta-date" but because of that she was out way later than she had planned so it kinda worked against me. While I obviously could have done better I do think the attraction was there as she said a couple times she didn't even know what she was doing because we didn't know each other. It was kinda like she couldn't help but spend time with me to get to know me...

I'm currently contemplating sending her a text.

Post: #5

So I texted her last night with "Hey Lizard it's JAS, how are you?", 35 min later she replies "I'm good, working. U?", 30 min later I replied "I'm good. Hey I enjoyed our time together last night, it was fun." Was this too beta? In my mind she would reply back saying how she had fun too, maybe even asking when she would see me again. Then I was going to say something like how she needed to cool me a banging Cuban meal... That was like 11:30 last night and no reply.

Before anyone says anything I don't have oneitis, I'm only trying to analyze everything I'm doing so I can improve. I'm not going to text her again so we'll see if she replies, if she doesn't reply I will definitely see her again at the casino. Not sure how I would play that though if she doesn't reply, stay aloof and continue teasing her and making slick remarks? Ignore her completely at the table, might that draw her more to me?

Post: #6

You should've sent her a text demanding a second date. Give her a reason why and set it up. For example "last night was fun even if (add a tease). Let's go out this Friday. I know a cool bar at..."

Post: #7

I see how your example keeps up the tension, is playful and promises a good time whereas mine is pretty bland. I was/am planning on being more playful and direct if she texts back and I guess I probably should have waited till today to text her since this all happened Friday night.

Post: #8

JAS, the way you handled yourself is completely different from that text you sent her. In fact, I can't believe you're the same person! She may respond still but that's because you're still riding from the "alpha" display the other night.

Sucio and MattC are right! If she doesn't get back to you it's because she wanted you to bang her and you didn't go for it. If she's dropping hints about how manly you are and also hints about where she can stay, jesus man, she's actually asking you to say "Let me get a room elsewhere so we can be alone".

Great job otherwise, I think you're stuck in the "I can't believe things are going this well!" mentality, the truth is, things can get a lot better!

Post: #9

I appreciate everyone's responses, I agree that I should have been more forward. I definietely missed a chance to kiss her once when our faces were close and we were in a "gaze", I was also pretty drunk by the time we got to the bar. She never said she couldn't come to my room, i just happen to know that. But thinking about it i could have brought it up; the view, how i used to be a bartender and how i could make a mean apple martini in the room. Hmmm i need to improve....

After thinking about it I also remember her inching away from me on the couch (I inched closer like nothing happened), putting her purse in between us (I put it behind me, even pocketed her change from drinks when she gave it to me), I think she also crossed her legs away from me at one point (something I've read about since). Overall I think I didn't do enough to create attraction and was too sarcastic + joking around, something which I imagine is a big problem of mine. She mentioned how she likes to dance, I could have said I was a salsa dancer and BS'ed myself through it to get us touching + dancing. I also blew myself out of the water by talking about at least 1 unflattering thing about myself. I need to learn how to steer a conversation towards my liking.

There's a good chance I'll see her in a week, I'm thinking acting like nothing happened is best. I mean all we did was have some drinks and get some burgers right? I'll try to get her alone and escalate more, no sense in acting like it bothered me she never texted back. That's if I can't get another chick to come with me, have 2 options.

Post: #10

This will teach you to go for the bang. If you would have tried your hardest to get the bang you wouldn't be asking yourself these questions.

Post: #11

Well those details do put a new paint job on things but the point is that if you can get a dealer, who sees every jackass under the sun, to want to hang out with you after her shift, you're doing something right. You were probably a bit too drunk by the time she saw you.

Post: #12

So I just saw her now for the 1st time, she made it a point to say hi to me in a bubbly tone. Should I now text her saying we should hit up a bar or what I'm thinking which is to just chill on it...?

Post: #13

At the casino again?

Post: #14

Yep, she was dealing again. I pretty much ignored her but feel like she flirted with me on purpose like it was all good.

Post: #15

I felt the need to learn on my own and sent her this, "How are you going to top our last date?", horrible?

Post: #16

It's funny how i can see a minute to 5 later how dumb and retarded shit I'm sending her sounds... Idk I honestly tried to be kinda slick with that last one and the sad thing is I'm not dumb....

Post: #17

Game another girl, don't get stuck on chasing this one, you'll see when you're gaming another girl how your texts to this one will change, because you won't care, you care too much at this moment.