Post: #126

(12-04-2013 12:17 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:44 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Any other benefits besides lashing out at that railing?

Also, do you find the "deeper sleep" makes it harder for your to wake up in the morning?

Or are you jumping out of bed?

Man it's definitely harder to get out of bed. I find myself snoozing more than usual and sleeping in more than I'd like to more often. I don't know if this is a sign of deeper sleep or not. However, those are only on the days I set an alarm. If I don't set an alarm I'll wake up normally and tend to wake up early as well.

I feel my sex drive is higher as well. But I can't attribute that entirely to the magnesium. I take daily 30mg of Opti-Zinc as well.

Supposedly the magnesium is also good for relieving muscle soreness. Work out legs that day and then spray on magnesium over your thighs after a shower and it should decrease muscle soreness the next day. I tried it but didn't feel much of a difference.

Maybe I'll notice other benefits as well once I go off the magnesium.

Me too, that's why I asked.

ZMA makes me sleep more.

I think I am only going to take it when I need a really good nights sleep and I don't need to wake up the next day.

Post: #127

Just had my testosterone checked for the second time. My first time checking it was July this year, giving me satisfactory results.

I came in at 22.31 nmol/L, or 640 ng/dL, with the range being between 8.69 - 29.00 nmol/L, putting me at just above average levels. Naturally I was hoping for a higher level, but I attributed it to genetics. Still, I felt I could 'optimize' it with diet and lifestyle. It's important to note I was already eating pretty well prior to this test, meaning I had lots of proteins and fats (meats and eggs) in my diet already. I had been working out 3-4 times a week and playing sports at the time too.

My results from checking it this December just came in. 26.00 nmol/L, or 750 ng/dL. Close to a 20% increase. I'm happy with this as it puts me in the upper range, with hopefully more room for improvement. I'm going to check it again in 3 months to see where I am at then.

I had a feeling my test was going to be higher. I feel much better nowadays then I did 6 months to a year ago. I'm in a happy mood almost all the time. I can't go 48 hours without going to the gym or doing some intense activity. I'm much more cool around girls, and I'm getting much stronger attraction signals. Earlier this year a few girls at my part-time restaurant work liked me/found me attractive, and at this point literally all of them do, plenty of girls around my age or a couple years younger. The girls side of it is probably due to more pre-selection and an improvement in my game, however, but if theres something driving my game in the first place it's testosterone.

I can't pinpoint a specific method that I have used to increase my testosterone like this. I have made some lifestyle changes over the past year that have started to take effect. Also, testosterone depends a lot on environmental factors. You can bet an athlete has higher levels during the season, as opposed to the off season.

What has been working for me:
- Lifting weights. Compound movements.
- Sleep, 8 solid hours at least 5 times a week
- Magnesium oil after showers.
- Opti Zinc daily
- High fats and proteins. Although I'm not consistent all the time with eggs for instance, I eat plenty of meats. I never skip out anymore on the skin when I eat chicken.
- Juicing. I think some veggies have effects that fight off what counteracts testosterone. I'm not the best person to ask for this.
- Fish oil daily
- 5000 IU Vitamin D.

- Accept that you're a man. Look at girls sexually. This is obvious and easy to do when you're out at night and a few drinks in, but how about when you're out during the day and you see an attractive girl pass you by? Best scenario is to approach, or at the very least take in her beauty from a primal perspective. Worst case scenario is to not acknowledge her at all. There is a game side to this, I don't show too much interest and and have my jaw drop when I notice them. Think about how Hank Moody would look at a girl he finds attractive.

Maybe some of these factors have a stronger effect than others. I can say for sure the last time I checked my levels I wasn't juicing, using magnesium oil, or taking in 5000 IU of vitamin D daily.

I'd like to say sex is having an affect here. I haven't had a regular girl recently and at the moment its been a few weeks since my last bang. When I did get my previous test however, the few weeks prior and around that time I did have a regular girl and was fucking at least once every couple weeks.

I've heard claims of having raw sex increasing your testosterone. But maybe going without sex for longer periods of time and still being out there chasing pussy keeps your testosterone high. I may not be getting laid every week or month but I'm definitely out there approaching on those nights out trying to make something happen.

I probably have more thoughts on this, just none coming to mind right now. I can't wait for my next check up, I wonder how much more I can optimize my testosterone naturally.

The method I checked was through family doctor, and it was covered by my health plan. There is a more accurate checkup that also measures free testosterone (my levels are total) but it costs $$. From what I understand, although my measure isn't the best method, it's a good estimate. And my results correlate with how I feel, so at this point I'm satisfied.

Post: #128

Add bee pollen and beet juice.

Post: #129

Trt is the best regimen, bar none. What's better at getting your test levels up than testosterone itself. If you don't want to do that I would suggest a serm such as clomid or nolvadex for 8 weeks.

Post: #130

Hi guys, I'm 17 so my t-levels shouldn't be that low but sometimes I feel my libido is low/ feeling tired (maybe from jacking off too much?). From tomorrow I'll start working out I think it will do me good but what do you guys recommend? Should I be fine with gym only or should I take zinc+ vitamin d extra?

Post: #131

This guy is 100% on TRT but amazing results.





I wonder if this is a sign of things to come.

Post: #132

Will enhancing my testosterone risk hair loss? I'm 35 and I actually value my hairline more than my testosterone levels right now

Post: #133

(02-16-2014 11:12 PM)dreambig Wrote:  This guy is 100% on TRT but amazing results.





I wonder if this is a sign of things to come.

Been making the rounds on Facebook. Of course you have a bunch of faggots putting him down for being on gear. Really, how could you even hate on a 70 year old for that? The guy is probably using test and hgh to improve the quality of his life, which is exactly what it should be used for.

Honestly though, I'm glad so many people are against it. I'll be using it to give me the edge in fucking their wives when I'm old.

Post: #134

So 5 minutes ago I injected my first dose of prescription testosterone. Following MikeCF's advice, I went to a compounding pharmacy and lo and behold they had a preprinted list of local docs that were test-friendly.

I went to the doc this morning and we talked for about an hour about how I had been feeling, what he and I thought we could accomplish with T injections, and he agreed that I should give it a shot. He was pretty impressed with the information that I already knew about it thanks to the information MikeCF has shared on this board and I walked out with a prescription. I really want to thank MikeCF for his posts and his podcast about TRT with his friend Jay. Without those resources I would have been lost at sea.

So I went to the pharmacy, got my supplies and quick injection class from the pharmacist and headed home. I was confident that I could inject just fine, but I watched a youtube video several times, laying out all my supplies, clearing and cleaning my work area. After I felt I had a good handle on it I dropped my pants, sat down and followed the video step by step. It was quite easy.

The doc said we'll start with 50mg 2x a week and then bloodwork to see where I'm at. He did say that unless it is contraindicated by the labs or anything else, he'll have no problem with 100mg 2x a week.

I'll post here in a few days to document how I feel.

Once again, if you haven't check out MikeCF's podcast (the Danger & Play podcast) about TRT then you're missing out. Actually, all the D&P episodes have been badass so far.

Post: #135

^ That's great to hear man!

I think you'll find that 100 mg a week is not enough and that you'll want closer to 200 mg.

You're starting off on the right foot. Sounds like you have a smart doctor who knows what he's doing and will listen to reason. That puts you ahead of 90% of men out there who seek medical treatment.

Great tip about asking the pharmacist for advice on finding a doctor. Never thought of that. That will go into my next write-up. Thanks.

Post: #136

Since my last post 7 months ago my test level has gone up some more.

I was at 750 ng/dL in December. Results from my recent blood test put me at 879 ng/dL.

I wonder how much more improvement I can make? My family doctor thinks I am injecting something since I've made a great leap since my first test a year ago.

Post: #137

(07-22-2014 12:41 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Since my last post 7 months ago my test level has gone up some more.

I was at 750 ng/dL in December. Results from my recent blood test put me at 879 ng/dL.

I wonder how much more improvement I can make? My family doctor thinks I am injecting something since I've made a great leap since my first test a year ago.

Nascimento, congrats. So you boosted your test based on the routine you mentioned at post #127?

Just confirming. Pretty awesome.

Post: #138

(07-22-2014 12:41 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Since my last post 7 months ago my test level has gone up some more.

I was at 750 ng/dL in December. Results from my recent blood test put me at 879 ng/dL.

I wonder how much more improvement I can make? My family doctor thinks I am injecting something since I've made a great leap since my first test a year ago.

Nice work!

Post: #139

(07-22-2014 12:47 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:41 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Since my last post 7 months ago my test level has gone up some more.

I was at 750 ng/dL in December. Results from my recent blood test put me at 879 ng/dL.

I wonder how much more improvement I can make? My family doctor thinks I am injecting something since I've made a great leap since my first test a year ago.

Nascimento, congrats. So you boosted your test based on the routine you mentioned at post #127?

Just confirming. Pretty awesome.

Yeah pretty much. And I haven't even been religious about it. It's been weeks since I've used magnesium oil; I've ran out of fish oils 2 months ago and still haven't ordered more; I get lazy when it comes to juicing.

Maybe maintaining a training regime, vitamin D and zinc are the most important factors for optimizing your T? If someone could chime in on this that would be great!

Post: #140

(02-17-2014 11:24 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 11:12 PM)dreambig Wrote:  This guy is 100% on TRT but amazing results.





I wonder if this is a sign of things to come.

Been making the rounds on Facebook. Of course you have a bunch of faggots putting him down for being on gear. Really, how could you even hate on a 70 year old for that? The guy is probably using test and hgh to improve the quality of his life, which is exactly what it should be used for.

Honestly though, I'm glad so many people are against it. I'll be using it to give me the edge in fucking their wives when I'm old.

This guy's 48 and isn't on TRT http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blog/john...00x225.jpg

Post: #141

(07-22-2014 02:54 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Maybe maintaining a training regime, vitamin D and zinc are the most important factors for optimizing your T? If someone could chime in on this that would be great!

You (like most people in the "civilized" world) had a deficiency in the Big 3 - Zinc, Magnesium, and Vitamin D.

When you have a deficiency in a vitamin or mineral, then the vitamins and minerals can have almost drug-like effects.

You addressed that deficiency. As your serum levels of vitamins and minerals decrease, the results will wear off. How soon will that happen? Impossible to say.

Post: #142

8 weeks off of TRT and here are my results.

Some points.

So much for the lines about "roid rage" or the lies that I advocate everyone take steroids/use TRT. Anyone who makes such claims is a confirmed troll.

So much for the myth that once you go on, you can't go off.

So much for quoting gurus who hide their blood work.

Now you have the truth. No lies. No claims. Just labs and data.

Post: #143

Do I just need the "Testosterone" measure from a lab, or is there more to it?
I read something about testosterone/estrogen balance or something.