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Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...ifestyle_5

If you have no game or look somewhat feminine, Scandinavia is probably a good place for you.
03-28-2010 08:27 PM
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
(03-28-2010 08:27 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...ifestyle_5

If you have no game or look somewhat feminine, Scandinavia is probably a good place for you.

very interesting. I would say it is true.

I have a friend who suffers from low T levels, and yet is always the one who ends up in long-term relationships since I've known him for more than 15 years, and is seldom not in a committed "relationship" with a girl who overpowers him. He actually takes prescribed medication to boost his T-levels.


I on the other hand, am never in a relationship for more than 1 month, have multiple sex partners - and definitely have no kids nor plan on having any and I am almost 40 in a few years!

however, my T levels are sky high, have very masculine, powerful athlete looks and do really well in poor countries with women who seek "protectors" like Colombia and South America. Yet, I am a teddy bear of a cool guy inside - (just don't test me) lol.
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
What's the easiest way to find out your testosterone level?
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
"What's the easiest way to find out your testosterone level? "

I think a good "thumb in the wind" approach is to gauge how quickly you go from no interest in chicks (prob when you're balls are completely drained) to when you want to put yourself in high testosterone type environments (I.E. club or dangerous 3rd world country), for the sake of getting a bang. I would say if your willingness to put in a full effort to go out and meet chicks on Mon. is non-existent, but by Friday your revved up and ready to hit the town then your about average. Keep in mind, the "for the sake of banging chicks" part because thats the part that correlates to testosterone. Going out and grabbing a few beers with your buds on Wed. doesn't really count IMO.
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
the best way of knowing your testosterone level is normal or above normal is if you wake up with wood every morning. Also the fact that you dont start putting on extra fat around your waist just by looking at food
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
(03-28-2010 08:27 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...ifestyle_5

If you have no game or look somewhat feminine, Scandinavia is probably a good place for you.
Hmm so what does that say about Cuban men? Men from Mozambique? Is socialism defined as political or a way of life that determines t-levels?

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(08-24-2011 01:35 PM)Ricorey Wrote:  the best way of knowing your testosterone level is normal or above normal is if you wake up with wood every morning. Also the fact that you dont start putting on extra fat around your waist just by looking at food

Good to know. Morning wood cock ready for duty.

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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
Yuuuup very true for Denmark and to a lesser extent, Iceland, the only two countries I have encountered such a phenomenon.

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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
(03-29-2010 11:16 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  What's the easiest way to find out your testosterone level?

Do you take risks? Do you actively seek out women to fuck them. Are you in good physical shape? If yes then your T is probably no problem.

My testosterone level is much higher now in my mid 20s than it was in my teens. I'm not sure why but I think heavy weight training is part of the reason. Also I found that doing the same job for a long time tends to lower your T especially if it's a sedentary job.

I am often disappointed to have friends that are never down to opening chicks. They're either short on T or just plain clueless about game.
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
Androgynous guys usually have better success with women than the 'macho men' in modern countries

This is useless info though since you can't 'become' gay looking, the result of trying this is usually pretty lame..
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(08-24-2011 08:01 PM)gig Wrote:  Androgynous guys usually have better success with women than the 'macho men' in modern countries

This is useless info though since you can't 'become' gay looking, the result of trying this is usually pretty lame..

There are more kinds of men than macho and gay. Bookworm, long-haired space cadets like me for example.

We do great in EE. It's useful to know where your "type" goes over.
Here in Amerika, the macho guy goes over great, and doesn't have to even be smart. Refer to previous Presidunce.
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
You dont get more socialist than some countries in South America or Eastern Europe.

How many Venezuelan, Polish or Russian men do you know of that are in touch with their feelings?

I think the real reason for it is that Scandinavian countries are feminist covens. Im surprised that the women dont fly around on brooms and eat the male young, although I think in the next 10-15 years it could become quite common there. These are countries that try to remove the concept of gender at pre school already.

Socialism did not turn the men into homo's, feminism did. Feminism has been in overdrive in those countries for about 40 years now
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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I think I called this a few months ago based on what Roosh had said about Denmark. Judging from what everyone else also said in that said, it doesn't seem like this was a secret.

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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
(08-24-2011 10:52 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  You dont get more socialist than some countries in South America or Eastern Europe.

How many Venezuelan, Polish or Russian men do you know of that are in touch with their feelings?

None. But these are/ were socialist countries in which socialism never worked . You still had to struggle to make it.
In Western and Northern Europe, you have strong economies coupled with fairly good working welfare systems. The description socialist doesn't fully apply to these countries imo. Let's call it capitalism with a strong social component.



Anyway, the question is, is it so bad that less masculine appearing guys are supposedly considered attractive in Scandinavia and some other places ? I don't think so since the majority of guys do not fall under the macho category anyway.
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Video RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
Makes sense to me why these women would married the "feminine" looking dude then fuck the hunk on the side.
I have managed to stay in a committed relationship for a year before declaring it "open" and NOT without having a swinger life style where I managed to fuck other women without having to hiding it.
It all comes down to your "teachers" in life and in my case these were macho in Mexico who were always talking about fucking as many women as possible and even sharing how "loose" or "tight" each pussy was. When I moved to the U.S. guys talk about women but not at that degrading level, which may sound bad, but I found it as necessary in order to remind myself that they make better fuck buddies than wives.
The only thing I don't get Mixx on is that he doesn't want to have children, but where I come from having children is a way to tell others you are good fucking material and you don't have to take care of them (that's why they invented women!). I have a neighbor who is 26 and just had a kid of a 65 yeard old granpa who already has 10 other children(not rare in Colombia) and I was like "dang I wanna meet this od fart!".



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(08-25-2011 10:09 AM)Jarocho2003 Wrote:  The only thing I don't get Mixx on is that he doesn't want to have children, but where I come from having children is a way to tell others you are good fucking material and you don't have to take care of them (that's why they invented women!). I have a neighbor who is 26 and just had a kid of a 65 yeard old granpa who already has 10 other children(not rare in Colombia) and I was like "dang I wanna meet this od fart!".

Yeah, there is a similar culture that exists in much of Jamaican society. The strong man makes the babies and leaves the weaker man to hang around and raise them. Heck, the progenitor of my family line (great-grandfather) got his start this way by making like 13-15 kids(all of my great aunts, great uncles and my grandmother).
This probably explains my desire to sire many children myself-its just in the blood, I guess...

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It's a turn on to impregnate a woman...but in western countries, it will break your neck financially if you lose control. I have friends and family members who are living near the poverty line because of child support...one is a Professor of Psychology- he has 6 children from 4 different relationships and does not even have a pot to piss in anymore.
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(08-26-2011 08:30 AM)sheesh Wrote:  It's a turn on to impregnate a woman...but in western countries, it will break your neck financially if you lose control. I have friends and family members who are living near the poverty line because of child support...one is a Professor of Psychology- he has 6 children from 4 different relationships and does not even have a pot to piss in anymore.

Yeah, it simply can't be done here. American laws are too anti-male and the women here are far too mercenary. It is possible in some parts of the west with less hostile legal systems and less dysfunctional gender relations(though the UK, Australia, and probably Canada are on a similar level), but no man here should even try to pull it off.

My children will likely all be foreigners, regardless of whether or not they're born in wedlock.

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RE: Socialist countries prefer less masculine men
And you wonder why all these places are Third World dumps.

I support child support legislation. Who the fvck wants their taxes going to raise another man's child?

You make it, you feed it, you raise it.
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(08-27-2011 12:29 PM)Mace Wrote:  And you wonder why all these places are Third World dumps.

I support child support legislation. Who the fvck wants their taxes going to raise another man's child?

You make it, you feed it, you raise it.

Actually, we agree on this. I don't have an issue with the principle of child support legislation. I plan on paying for any children I sire voluntarily, and won't make them if I can't afford them. In actuality, I believe that the vast majority of men are fine with the idea of supporting their own kids.

I do have an issue with the way things are done in the USA, however. The family law system here is built to favor golddiggers and state family-court budgets, not children. Men are mere meal tickets, and are treated accordingly.
That's my issue.

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Yeah, child support isn't the issue. I believe it's custody rights, divorce settlements and alimony where men get majorly hosed in the US system.
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What's wrong with american child support is that it's actually mother support, on top of alimony. There is a conflict of interest on how the money is spent.
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I Colombia the mininum child support per kid per month is just $40, but of course if I have a kid or two out of wedlock I will give more than that and probably visit my kid(s) on the weekends.
That's probably a big reason why many of these women want you to take them to the U.S. and why you should not take them.
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