Post: #1

People I need help......., Proud to say though it is at the end game level that I need help.

So after careful estimation my stats are that I am loosing about 75 % of the girls that I Isolate to my Air Bnb Apt or Hotels...... WTF.

Some recent examples, During San Francisco Trip I was able to bring girls home two out of five nights, First 3 nights when I was close to Union Square was better, No luck close to Duboce Trainagle last 2 nights . One I get to see naked , other some tiity action but no bang .

Recent FL trip : 6 nights, One bang, One BJ. 4 girls that came to my room that I missed out on which is what I am pissed at.

Bang was actually a rebang on a Colombiana that I had had to build the seuction process all over again, Started my trip with her as I didn't had anything better to do on a monday night.

Now lets talk about this particular night at Tampa Hard Rock Casino, I brought 3 different girls to my room from 12:30 AM to 05:00 AM, Got BJ from the first one, Kiss from the second one , Third one pulled a Knife on me .... WTF......

Girl 1: White Typical Tampa Trash, Met in Casino, had a drink at the Bar an on to my room for some smokes, Got to my room, some resistence but upon whipping it out got a BJ, I could have pushed for a Lay but got turned off by seeing the belly roll and she was kinds nasty.....

Girl 2: Best girl of the night from Kazakhistan, She passed by the bar ans smiled, You know I wasn't gonna let that go, Opened her and she was easy to converse with , after about 15 min we are in my room for Champagne, She blushed when I kissed her, Super conservative and half Muslim , I didn't get the lay could have if I lived in the area in 2-3 dates.

Girl 3: White Girl, decent body, butter face 6 or 6.5.Me and Mech had met her before at the bar, she asked mech for some advice on Gambling, seemed like she was interested in him, she told us she is from Michigan , Mech told me chics from Michigan and Straight up Psycho's. Well we moved on .....

After the second girl left it was around 4 in the morning, I came down for one final round and saw this Michigan Girl , she came running to me and asked me where is mech, I fed her some BS story......., Grabbed her hand and started walking towards the elevators with premise for Champagne, She stopped at the elevators and said I know what you are trying to do, I thought I hadn't spent enough time developing attaraction and comfort and led her to sofa by the Elevator and started from scratch , 15 min into convo she sayd lets go and have some champagne........ By the way she was drunk already........

In my room pour her a glass, play the music she wanted to play. I go for a kiss, declined, some more music dance, go for kiss declined again, She started getting physical , demanding me to pour more champagne and play such and such song. I played a differnet one and told her that she has overstayed her welcome and can leave my room. ....... Bitch pulls a knife from her purse but didn't open.... I told her I am not scared of her and she better leave , She still wanted me to serve her some champagne. I threatened to call security , she gets up and leaves telling me "I'm too much for you to handle" , She forgot her phone, I grab her phone and open the door and slide on the floor and tell her to come get it. She started saying oh thank you so much .... and I closed the door.

Some more Info : All these girls that I am missing out on were gamed on a SNL model and not brought to the room on second day or first date meet. SNL/SDL is my default procedure of gaming.

I think I do better when I date a Girl 2-3 times, which I can not do as often as I please as I am in a LTR. May be girls are more comfortable with me and this dating model suits my game better one such example is a recent Korean Bang that I got on a second date.

My game has come a long way, I can Attract some Girls with out even talking to them, Isolate them etc etc but want to get better or improve my percentages when I do Isolate them.... How though... Need y'll to dissect this for me..

Am I taking the wrong kind of girls to my room ?

or

My end game really needs more work/Patience and need to spend more time with girls when the girls are Isolated....

or

I have wrong expectation of bishes, thinking if they are coming up to my room , they should fuck

Or........ some thing else...........

Post: #2

You sure all these girls were by themselves and didn't have to meet up with any friends? Did they have to be anywhere early the next day?

At what time did you meet them in the night?

Post: #3

Overall, you are doing well. The SNL from a cold approach is the epitome of game, but it is just tough to do-most times you will fail. Banging 25% of girls you isolate from a cold approach to me seems pretty good. As you indicate, other girls will go as far as a heavy makeout or a BJ but stop before the bang.

I think banging 33% of the girls you isolate from a cold approach is really good and anything over 40% is excellent.

Here's how i think you can up your close rate:

First you asked if you should spend more time with them after you isolate them. No- you should spend more time with them before you isolate them. Your pulls are really quick which shows that you have good game technique, but once a girl gets alone with you she starts thinking "whoa, what's happening here I don't know this guy". Sometimes you will find a girl who is just raring to fuck and doesn't care, but most girls need that comfort/rapport phase. Spend time drinking and talking with the girl. Divulge a bit about yourself(true or made up) talk about your interests, tastes, experiences. Ask her about herself. Get her to talk about her feelings about whatever. Depending on circumstances at least an hour, maybe invest two or three hours if she seems promising.

Bounce to other venues- again as above, this makes the girl think she knows you better than she does. Even if it's another bar in the same hotel, move her somewhere a couple of times before taking her to your room.

Screening- see the screening for DTFness thread.

Kino- you need to gradually escalate the kino as you spend time with her so that she accepts you touching her. No heavy makeouts before isolation though.

Consider a second meeting-push as far as you can, then get her number before she leaves. Of course, some girls will never respond to your texts, but others will come back a day or two later to bang you

Post: #4

Maybe you're pulling them to the room too fast. Next time you come here play some games/machines with them and hit more of the bars maybe some dancing then pull up to the room to "change" or something. Also I'm not sure about Champagne. I wouldn't ever use that word it's something you drink at weddings and formula 1 races. Always have ice in the room and mix Vodka drinks or rum and cokes.

You also need to calibrate when the girls are "ready" like those sluts slamming free shots at 3am. They were not ready to stop and go to a room it would have been hours with them. When you pick girls up to your room fast the results are going to be all over the place and add the fact you don't go into hard party mode like I do willing to trade shots and chill, smoking and drinking until moves take place. You might be a little too anxious??

Also I saw the Michigan girl gyrating all over a slot machine. I've never seen anything like it..

Post: #5

Maybe you are trying too hard to act "alpha".

"Bitch told me to play a song she wanted to hear so I kicked her out so nicely that she pulled a knife on me"

Chill out and try to actually enjoy the company of women. Cant do that? Try to hit on girls you would actually like to spend some time with.

Post: #6

Lothario you're such a great dude to hang out with. And I know you wanna SNL 10's every night you go out. Hell we all do. That's the dream. But if you want to increase quantity you have to decrease quality. Simple poosy economics.

The alternative is(and you're not gonna wanna hear it) is to have more to offer them. Since your bang business model is short stays at airbnb's all over the place you don't have the established social circle and access to exclusive events, after parties, backstage parties ...etc to offer women.

So what does that leave?

1. You can friend up some cool alpha locals and infiltrate their social circle and access to their poon supply.

2. You can create your own after party. Sounds like this is what you're going for by bringing them back to your room.

If your plan is to retain maximum anonymity I'd say plan #2 is your best bet. So my advice to increase your chances of banging is to offer them something more than alcohol. Weed, coke, percoset, Xanax, ecstasy or whatever. You'd be surprised how many women do drugs. Try offering up a line of coke to the next 7+ you bring back to your room and see if the poosy gods smile on you.

Post: #7

@ Parlay44- I would stick to the "party drugs"- Weed and yay. I would estimate that after I started lighting jays up with girls at the end of the night, my close rate went up at least double.

@Lothario- I had a similar problem for about 1/2 year in SF. Sometimes, would get the girl back to the room for a ONS, we would get 1/2 way and she would bail or freeze up. I think you need to vary your tempo a little bit. Pushing hard for make-out at a bar/BJs in the bathroom is almost acceptable(other people are milling around), but oddly when a bed is there and you guys are alone, the women feels less comfortable....

I run a high energy game, and tone it way down when I get the girl alone. Girls like a fun guy, but not a spaz...

When you get back to the room, the hard work is over... Now comes the soft touch and gentle persuasion. You have to build COMFORT and keep the interaction going at a snails pace initially, and pick it back up again. My method is to roll back to the room and starting pouring shots or mixed drinks(drink these if you are blasted, but dilute yours much heavier than hers). I usually hit the bathroom first, and then let her go (nothing worse than getting 1/2 way, having to go the bathroom, and the heat of the moment is interrupted). Roll a J and smoke it w/her. This drinking/smoking jays should take anywhere for 5- 20 mins. This whole time ill cut way back on the kissing/groping and just touch her hair/stroke her arm/throw an arm around her and slowly escalate. Give her time to feel comfortable and it will pay dividends. Usually, ill ramp up again then throw them on the bed. Ill get about 2 mins of last resistance, but usually it melts v. quickly.

PS. Music is key. I like putting pandora on...hip hop and R&B. Something light and sensual with a slight sexual tone. Great thing about pandora is that at the 1hr mark w/out feedback it shuts off. So if the music shuts off and I havent gotten the bang, Ill push extra-hard or kick her out.

Post: #8

Re-reading my response, I think it sounds too harsh. Im not downplaying your game, by numbers alone, its solid. (Hey, 1 bang and 4 girls at your place in 6 nights, and 3 girls at your room in less than 6 hours? Regular guys would dream about that if they thought that was even possible...)

What I meant to say is that, once you have them back at yours, just relax and let the interaction flow. Dude, she is already at your place, a few feet away from your bed. She knows whats the deal, she knows what is going on...

But most importantly, she WANTS IT. Otherwise she wouldnt walk back with you to your room.

Just take it easy, she wants to be played, she wants to feel she is being wooed, not pumped and dumped.

Give them some wine, some smooth dancing, some suave sensual swooning. They will crawl into your bed, they want that. They just need some space to maneuver.

Post: #9

I think the key to closing once you get them back to your room is getting them horny. Every girl has something that will turn them on big time. Earlier in the night you can ask to get ready, or you can just try different things to find what she reacts to. Last night I had a very conservative girl and I really had to work with it. I alternated between freeze outs and making her very horny. I had her back arching in ecstasy before her panties would come off. It was a battle and took a lot of work, but I got it in the end. Also if you know they like you, but you still can't get it, and you probably won't get another shot with them you should do the ultimatum. It's like a freeze out, but you are basically saying well I guess your not down so our time together is over. It's more of a gamble, but if you read that she is into you it will work every time.

Post: #10

Lothario's numbers are good. He's an approach machine. His problem is time constraint. He travels frequently and is only in town for a few days at a time. So I'm guessing he feels pressured to f-close every night. That means you have to screen out girls that are DTF. Second dates are not an option. Plus he can't reap the benefit of residual poosy ...the booty call.

Post: #11

Great Responses Everyone.

Prophylaxis: Yes I do screen for DTF ness, Who's she here with, Who she drove or If she has to be at work in the morning and yes Girls lie more then we do , You just have to read into her body language if she is DTF or not......

El- Mechanico: You are right I do not go into hard party mode and may be I should , just like you said " You need to unlearn 50 % of what you have learned " Just like a master sculpture piece is created after shedding the unnecessary parts , I need to shed the unnecessary parts of my Game or in other words calibrate my Game Better just like....

Champagne works , I have tried it and it works like a charm on the girls I am targeting, Yes agree with you If I am going after Club Sluts, I should have Vodka, Red Bull, Crystal Light and Ice in the room or Rum and Coke but it's like I am creating a Mini Bar in the room for 2 days only, I much prefer and it is easier to just pick a $ 12 bottle of Champagne or Sparkling Moscato which works on most of the Girls.

Mr.XY: Thanks buddy you just confirmed my suspicion , I'm pulling too fast to my room and I need to spend more time with them before pulling them to my room and also after pulling them to my room.

Here is where my Problem is ....

How do I know which Horse to put my money on, Ok for example I have decided I am going to stick with this girl and see what happens & I do spend time with a girl making her comfortable and if she doesn't puts out I start second guessing myself and doubting myself that this girl wasn't DTF to begin with and made a mistake putting my time with this one , This leads to continuos cycle of is she DTF or not ? Best way I can think of is to screen for DTFness to the best of my ability, Put my time in with tenacity and whatever happens..... happens....., Atleast I have gamed with due diligence.......

Here is a question for Slubu and you guys are thinking how the fuck slubu comes in this thread. I have seen him tenaciously pestering a girl with persistence and sticking with her till the wee hours and finally getting the bang. Endurance in what I learned from Slubu.

Slubu ...... my friend how do you decide this is the girl you are going to pester for the rest of the night ?


Parlay 44 : Spot on Analysis probably because you know me....... "Time Constraint" yes that is what my problem is and excellent suggestion on "Party Drugs" , I have discussed this with Gio and although I wouldn't/couldn't divulge in drugs but don't see the reason not to carry a joint or two in my cigarette case.

Spot on again Parlay, what am I offering them to party with ? ....wine / Alcohol only ...... need to sweeten the deal a bit as I am going after the sluts anyway, skanks who are DTF for a SNL, I can see how Wine/Champagne works for the so called Nice Girls and I need to go after the club sluts.

Great suggestions everyone, RVF delivers once again Keep the suggestions coming brethren .........

Post: #12

Germanico: I don't think I am acting too Alpha, My problem is the other way around , Being too Nice . I would throw the Girl out if she is not even Kissing after in the room , drinks, dance, spent atleast 45 min - 1 hr with no Intimacy or Girl is plain rude .......

DVY , 20 Nation and Germanico : All saying the same thing and yes I agree need to slow down once the girl is in the room as the hard work is done and think in my mind that I got this or this one is in the bag rather then trying to get the Notch ASAP . DVY I got the music thing down and play the music via a portable Speaker that sets up a Mini After Party in my room.......

Thanks once again Guys......

Post: #13

To answer your question Lothario, I don't really have a specific means by which I decide which girl to latch on to. Generally I just try and feel it out and see how they are interacting with me, if they give signs of being DTF (covered extensively) and logistics. For example, if they are into me, are in the creative field (art/music, etc.) and came to a bar alone, that is a HUGE giveaway of SNL potential.

This weekend I was in Vegas. Night one I was helping my buddy out and occupying her ugly friend. She wouldn't leave me alone so I ditched her. Then I saw her cockblocking my buddy so I went back and grabbed her to my dismay. I was just over it and tired and told her I'm going home, if you follow me I am going to fuck you. She said ok and off we went, though it was a far cry from anything special. Maybe try that direct approach, haha.

Second night met a French chick and grabbed my other buddy to occupy her friend. Well my buddy went off and fucked her friend after 40 minutes, while I spent hours with the original French girl only to have nothing at the end. I tried ridiculous persistence, walking her back saying she was going to get raped if she was alone, etc. She did get insanely pissed at me though for forgetting her name and I don't think I could have recovered from that. So there's that too, sometimes it just doesn't work out.

I think everyone here's given great advice, maybe persist a bit more before throwing them out when you get them back to their room. I've done 4 hour marathons in the room overcoming LMR to finally get through it. Other times I get tired after 20 minutes and give up just because I rather go to bed than keep trying this back and forth.

One thing that has actually worked for me, is talking girls into sex. I know conventional wisdom says you have to physically and emotionally overcome LMR, but for whatever reason I've had numerous bangs where they said no sex, stopped my physical escalation and when I retracted and calmly explained to them all the reasons we should have sex they eventually agreed.

Post: #14

PS. Music is key. I like putting pandora on...hip hop and R&B. Something light and sensual with a slight sexual tone. Great thing about pandora is that at the 1hr mark w/out feedback it shuts off.


Pandora got me laid this weekend. We made love to soothing music on Pandora.Want to make it even more sensual? Go to this website and play this in the background. http://www.rainymood.com/

Guaranteed to make her wet. Women love rain.When the music is playing with the sound of rain, it is your bang to lose.

Post: #15

(11-18-2012 09:41 PM)slubu Wrote:  One thing that has actually worked for me, is talking girls into sex. I know conventional wisdom says you have to physically and emotionally overcome LMR, but for whatever reason I've had numerous bangs where they said no sex, stopped my physical escalation and when I retracted and calmly explained to them all the reasons we should have sex they eventually agreed.

Nice Slubu , help me understand the concept of "Talking girls into Sex". What I have been operating on is bare minimum talk about sex and rather let the actions/escalation do the talking....

Can you elaborate, may be give an example or two, sound very interesting and promising.....

Post: #16

Her: I don't think this is a good idea...

Me: "Look, you're probably thinking I do this all the time. The truth is, its not like that all. I knew as soon as I saw you, you were different. Theres something about you, I felt a genuine connection. Correct me if I'm wrong, you feel that too, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Life is short, and two people who cross paths like this doesn't happen as often as you think it does. I live life like everyday is a gift. Think about that for a second. Life is short, tomorrow something terrible could happen. On the other side of the coin, something incredible could happen. In the end, denying yourself something you want is no way to go through life. Life is made up of the experiences you share and the memories you make. Why not share that experience with someone you have a connection with?

OR

Something simple as

"There's this fire brunch place walking distance from my place, I'll take you in the morning."

***Calibrate depending on type of girl

Post: #17

(11-19-2012 08:09 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 09:41 PM)slubu Wrote:  One thing that has actually worked for me, is talking girls into sex. I know conventional wisdom says you have to physically and emotionally overcome LMR, but for whatever reason I've had numerous bangs where they said no sex, stopped my physical escalation and when I retracted and calmly explained to them all the reasons we should have sex they eventually agreed.

Nice Slubu , help me understand the concept of "Talking girls into Sex". What I have been operating on is bare minimum talk about sex and rather let the actions/escalation do the talking....

Can you elaborate, may be give an example or two, sound very interesting and promising.....

Sorry Slubu but I'd have to disagree. Maybe you know something I don't. If so then please share.
But in my experience you can't logically "talk" a woman into sex in the same way you'd talk a man into buying a car.

People have a logical mind and an emotional mind. To get women into bed you have keep their emotional mind
engaged and keep them from using their logical mind. That's the point of game. Keep them laughing.
Keep them drinking. Keep them smoking. Tease them and play with them until their crying from laughter
and they will rip your clothes and ride you like a mechanical bull.

Women want to be gamed. They want to be entertained. They want to laugh. They want to fuck.
It's your job(and it is work) to provide all of that and in exchange they give you that sweet sweet Poosy.

Post: #18

(11-19-2012 11:37 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(11-19-2012 08:09 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 09:41 PM)slubu Wrote:  One thing that has actually worked for me, is talking girls into sex. I know conventional wisdom says you have to physically and emotionally overcome LMR, but for whatever reason I've had numerous bangs where they said no sex, stopped my physical escalation and when I retracted and calmly explained to them all the reasons we should have sex they eventually agreed.

Nice Slubu , help me understand the concept of "Talking girls into Sex". What I have been operating on is bare minimum talk about sex and rather let the actions/escalation do the talking....

Can you elaborate, may be give an example or two, sound very interesting and promising.....

Sorry Slubu but I'd have to disagree. Maybe you know something I don't. If so then please share.
But in my experience you can't logically "talk" a woman into sex in the same way you'd talk a man into buying a car.

People have a logical mind and an emotional mind. To get women into bed you have keep their emotional mind
engaged and keep them from using their logical mind. That's the point of game. Keep them laughing.
Keep them drinking. Keep them smoking. Tease them and play with them until their crying from laughter
and they will rip your clothes and ride you like a mechanical bull.

Women want to be gamed. They want to be entertained. They want to laugh. They want to fuck.
It's your job(and it is work) to provide all of that and in exchange they give you that sweet sweet Poosy.

I agree. But you can talk them into sex with a combination of physical escalation, and rhetoric that solely uses emotional appeal.

If you wrap it like: "You should have sex with me for these 3 reasons. Or A, B, C" of course their pussy is going to dry up quicker than if IRT walked into the room.

Tease them yes, get them laughing yes, joke with them a lot yes. Then take 2 minutes to say something serious while not breaking eye contact, especially if you have a joking personality all the time. You'll be surprised the effect it can have.

Post: #19

All I can say is it works for me, to the point of where I feel like I should ramp it up again. I'll give you a few examples from the past few years.

Girl 1: 2nd date, went to taco tuesdays with her friend and came back to crash at my place. She got in my bed, messing around, said no sex because she barely knew me. After hours of physical escalation and being shut down, I just got a bit upset and asked her what her hesitation was. Again the same shit, so I pulled Neil Straus' line from the Game and said "you know, I'm a firm believer that passionate relationships begin passionately. I've found the best relationships I've had have started early with a physical spark that allows both of us to get to know each other in a very intimate way and relaxes ourselves afterwards to be who we really are." Some crap like that. We were having sex within minutes after that, and this followed literally HOURS of me trying physical escalation.

Girl 2: 2nd date, got in my bed messing around. Same crap, barely know you. Told her the same passionate relationships line but she was still hesitant. Then I went into how I know what she's thinking, that I will respect her less and so on. I replied "it's actually funny how girls think that but I truly find the opposite to be true. When a girl is confident enough to allow herself to fully appreciate physical intimacy when she's already determined she wants it shows me a strong person and I get even more attracted to that." And so on. Again, sex started pretty soon after that.

Girl 3: 1st date, huge bitch. Lawyer of course. Stopped dead in the middle of going at it and goes "What are you doing?" I said what do you mean, she goes "are you trying to have sex with me?" This one actually stumped me a bit, so I said no. Of course then I get "Why not?" I literally was ready to kick her out but I bit my tongue. Then of all things she went into this shit test of "if you want to have sex, we'll have sex right now and I'll just never see you again." I wanted to say that sounds great, but I held back, told her how if she wants to we can if she doesn't that's fine. That I'm attracted to her and I will try, and if we have sex that doesn't mean I won't see her again, and quite the opposite. After a while we had sex, and I never saw her again haha.

These are a few examples that stand out for me. I've also used cheesier lines of "30 seconds and I'll stop" which obviously if they accept you never stop because they love it. I hear what Parlay is saying and I agree, as I always start that way. It's not like I bring them into my room and give them a powerpoint presentation on the reasons why they should hop on my cock. But when the escalation reaches a plateau, verbal reasoning/appeal is my next move and it works with decent frequency. The key it seems when you look at my stories and for example what rationalize said above is to make them feel that (1) they won't be judged, (2) you will actually like them more for it, and (3) let the passionate nature of the night continue.

I will admit one thing I've recently wanted to try, and this is because I'm certain I'll get her to laugh, is that I ALWAYS get some variation of this line and want to hit her with the following response:

Her: "I've just met you, this is crazy."
Me: "So here's my penis, fuck me maybe?"

Post: #20

Sometimes I pull operation boxers... Put on pandora, dim the lights, strip down to boxers (I have a decent body), hop in the bed. Wink at her- "Do you want to take a nap?" Then i lift the blanket and pat a spot next to me.

Honestly, I have done it a few times (mostly when shitfaced), but sometimes when I want to sleep or f-ck, it works like a charm. (Sidenote, usually have spent at least an hour talking/dancing/socialzing and drinking w/her first. Shes likely fairly drunk as well. It works about 50% of the time )

@Rationalize-this and Slubu- I like your rhetoric. You guys are like Obama, saying exactly the same trope women want to hear!!! Thanks for the suggestions.

Post: #21

(11-19-2012 12:08 PM)slubu Wrote:  The key it seems when you look at my stories and for example what rationalize said above is to make them feel that (1) they won't be judged, (2) you will actually like them more for it, and (3) let the passionate nature of the night continue.

Excellent post Slubu, now with examples and what rationalize-this said I can see what you mean by " Talking girls into sex" and bolded part in your post above is also like saying it is a Players responsibilty to make a girl not feel slutty for doing a slutty act.

I think Parlay thought that you were trying to talk them into why it's beneficial for them to have sex with you in a literal way.... may be .... but still with your tactics are playing with the Emotional side of the brain and not the logical side, and that is the key here to manipulate their emotions and let them flow.........

Post: #22

Slubu man thank you so much for that fucking post!!

Post: #23

Great thread. Great responses to help Lothario close better.

My favorite was Slubu's talking girls into sex.

It reminded me of what The Legend Pierre Woodman said about talking girls into sex...

"Woodman uses psychology. For instance, if a girl doesn't want to do porn based on her religious convictions, Woodman will first go about proving to her that God doesn't exist. Once this goal is accomplished, he can convince the girl to fuck him. "I like it so much," he says. "It's a challenge."

Although this sounds counterintuitive, Woodman claims that the dumber the girl is, the harder it is to convince her to fuck him. A stupid girl's mind is more difficult to penetrate—plus, she can't follow his logical arguments"

http://www.kapelovitz.com/pierre.htm

Post: #24

(11-16-2012 09:39 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Now lets talk about this particular night at Tampa Hard Rock Casino, I brought 3 different girls to my room from 12:30 AM to 05:00 AM, Got BJ from the first one, Kiss from the second one , Third one pulled a Knife on me .... WTF......

Welcome to Florida!

Post: #25

(12-13-2012 07:51 PM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

(11-16-2012 09:39 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Now lets talk about this particular night at Tampa Hard Rock Casino, I brought 3 different girls to my room from 12:30 AM to 05:00 AM, Got BJ from the first one, Kiss from the second one , Third one pulled a Knife on me .... WTF......

Welcome to Florida!

Shit gets real at 5am. That's when the lines start forming for the breakfast buffet