Post: #26

(11-12-2012 10:44 PM)IQVX Wrote:  My youngest sister is attractive. More interested in gaming her attractive friends.
Still a few years out though.

It didn't work out for me. My sister is pretty attractive but all her friends except for 1 are pretty ugly. The 1 not ugly friend got knocked up when she was 17 by some dude and now my sister and her are no longer friends anymore.

Now I am waiting for my younger cousin. She will be hotter than my sister at 18 years old and I think she has hotter friends.

Post: #27

I have attractive sister. I remember sitting on the train with her and she had EIGHT (!!!) orbiters with her. She ignored the dudes completely like they didn't exist. When I was walking with her though the trainstation I felt like a president, surrounded by "bodyguards".

What it teach me was how woman are VERY, VERY aware of being labelled "a slut" and how easy they label other girls as "slut". Also it showed me the stupid "social rules" they all have in their head and how hypocrite they are.
-you have guys you fuck and you have guys you date. If you fuck a guy who is in the "it's ok to have sex with him", then you are not labelled as a slut. If you fuck a guy who is in the "it's ok to date him", you are a slut.
-it's ok to fuck dudes if they are good dancers, if they are "hot" and "entertaining".
-it's ok to fuck blacks because they are entertaining, don't treat him as human, he's only a sextoy.
-it's not ok to fuck whites for pleasure, they are only for marrying and having relationships with.
-every other girl is a slut, I'm not.
-I may use my girlfriends.
-if a player comes to talk to me on party he isn't human anymore, you may treat him then like dirt.
-to marry is the greatest good on eath since it's the only way to have children, but the husband has to be very rich and must obey me.

What it struck me was that those girls are hardcoded. They don't think about them, it's just like telling her "the sky is blue" if you point out those rules.

She had dated some dudes and they all were the type "good dancers, extroverted vibe, swagging types". A woman expects to be entertained.

Post: #28

I don't have any sisters. It would have definitely helped my game when I was younger, as girls wouldn't be so mysterious to me. But alas.

Post: #29

I grew up with a large extended family. Lots of good looking girl cousins in the 7 range, but few male cousins. I've two younger sisters. The elder (closer to my age) is thin, decent in the face, organized, meticulous about her skin and knows not to give me too much backtalk. The much younger one is not far off from Boba Fatt in post #8 by Tuth. Obese, dumb, loud, messy, and acts like she is 2 points higher than her true SMV.

Being older than most of my cousins, treating them like children was natural. I modeled the behavior of my uncles: authoritative frame, fomenting jealousy, teasing, giving small orders as a compliance test, and rewarding such compliance on rare occasions. Once one realizes that women are children in adult bodies, bolstering game via the "Older cousin" mentality is a smooth transition.

Since women outnumbered men in my family, matriarchy was in full stride. Equality feminism was prevalent. Displaying alpha/red pill tendencies was frowned upon. I got my daily flintstone vitamins, along with blue pills and hamster pellets.

Quote:SKmini: "I'm better cos I'm a boy."
Aunt: "No, you and your sister are the same. Listen to me because I'm your elder."
SKmini: "Little sister, you have to listen to me. I'm your elder."
Aunt: "No, you are equals!"

SKmini: "In kindergarten I learned to walk to school by myself. She is in kindergarten now. We are equals. That means she can learn to walk there by herself too."

Aunt: "NO! You have to walk with her to and from school every day!"

From a young age I was made responsible for others. Due to equalism, the power of authority to carry out those responsibilities was hamstrung. We all know authority is both unfair and oppressive. This childhood lesson quickly extrapolated to, and influenced my opinion of modern marriage.

By being exposed to female emotional manipulations at an early age, one learns first to survive, then to defeat them. Children have few emotional defenses to deal with crying, tantrums, bullying, shaming, threats and ultimatums. I experienced these not only from my sisters and cousins, but from my mother, aunts, and grandmother as well.

Some coping mechanisms were, from rudimentary to current:

1) Reacting emotionally. Crying, violence, and arguing from emotions
2) Attempt to actively ignore, but still being bothered
3) Mockery (i.e., amused mastery)
4) Nonchalant because drama no longer has power over me. A side effect is that unwanted behaviors can also be extinguished.


As for Tuth's questions:

(11-12-2012 06:39 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  How has this affected your game?

Better detection for and inoculation against BS/drama. Maintaining personal standards becomes more important than temptation. Shirking duties through pleading and puppy dog eyes doesn't work on me. I would be put in charge of chores at times. If my cousins didn't pull their weight, it was my ass on the line. If I don't tolerate poor behavior from my sister (who is important to me), why would I put up with it from a girl I barely know?


Did you have access to hotter girls as a result (through social networks) growing up?

In high school I pulled a beta move and gave an art project to my sister's friend. She was a cute latina dancer with a nice bubble. She ate it up but I wasn't seasoned enough to escalate and close back then. I found my sister's college friends to be average, but not attractive enough to hit while sober.


Have you observed cats trying to game her? How lame/good is their game?

YES. Wow. In the middle of high school we moved to a new state. Dudes fell for the new student shine. White guys usually brought weak beta game. Latinos were uninterested. Asian guys stuck to their own or were shy to open. Black dudes spit the best game, particularly if they didn't go with the gangster angle. Thug black dudes would approach with "Ay girl."

In high school, she dated one of my friends, a black guy. He was socially savvy high schooler, studying fashion (with a huge portfolio of sketches), and had a passion for Brazil. He learned Portuguese on his own and communicated with a number of Brazilian pen-pals.


What behind-the-scenes shit have you observed?

My sister mentioned a guy in her social circle who said "I'm a better kisser than you." She said, "I'm competitive so I had to prove him wrong." I said "Wow you're fucking dumb," while thinking "I'm stealing this move."

Of course, they ended up making out. As I understand he later got the bang. Just another example that game works best on feminists who think they're game-proof.

She also had a college marriage, a.k.a. 4-year boyfriend. Towards the end it got boring, so she applied for an internship at some exotic destination for her final semester. On paper it said work internship, but on the ground it was constant partying. She met a tall, buff club promoter; went raw dogging with him; eventually got tested and it came back clean. In the middle of the internship, her boyfriend flew in for a surprise visit. My sister was pissed. Which is understandable, cos who likes a cockblock? After the internship she broke up with him, and got a new boyfriend 6 months later. Some years ago she asked me what I thought about marriage. I told her, "You're not getting any younger." She and her boyfriend are now married.

As a side note, it's interesting to see the dynamic of a feminist career woman. They are told repeatedly to be strong and independent. But being women, they still have to contend with their emotionality. In the workforce, one's time is commodified and reduced to a number for the company's bottom line. It can be dehumanizing, so feminists seek to validate their humanity. Sometimes it's from their family. Sometimes their friends. Sometimes it comes from players who make them feel like women instead of paper pushers.

It's also weird proofreading this and realizing that my sister followed the stereotypical carousel timeline that the manosphere talks about.


Anyway, game on.

Post: #30

I wonder if anybody here has banged a fellow RVF member's sister (without realizing it at the time, of course)...

Post: #31

(11-12-2012 11:15 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

(11-12-2012 11:02 PM)HiFlo Wrote:  Ive often wished I had a smoking sister. I think being an only child fucked me up in a lot of ways

Totally relate to that, HiFlo. Maybe it was because we were the sole concern in our universe growing up? Not having to share our shit maybe? I don't know. But when I hear people talk about how they had to account for their brothers and sisters growing up I think to myself "What the fuck?". I definitely have a different take on things because it was always just me and my parents growing up.

Totally with you on that.

Post: #32

My sister just turned 26 and is good looking, plus she competes in IBFF bikini comps. Luckily she is married already and lives in a small town so I don't have to deal with any orbiters. But when she comes to visit in whatever city I am in, I usually fuck one of her fellow friends/competitors. Those bikini girls have some of the sweetest asses I have ever sunk my teeth into.

Post: #33

How has this affected your game?

It increased my standards that's for sure, but I also looked at the guys she dated and how they acted, versus the guys who she used for favors, and how they acted.

Did you have access to hotter girls as a result (through social networks) growing up?

One of the hottest girls I ever fucked was a close friend of hers, and I also banged two who were cute, but not hot and one who was kind of gross. She threw parties around the end of high school, and being her brother I was pretty well pre-screened. Easy swoops.

Have you observed cats trying to game her? How lame/good is their game?

In my observation, the lower-class guys shot the best game at her, while most of the others were stuck to the orbit. She never liked black guys, but she did like the latinos. She very much liked (told me) the smooth Latin player angle.

What behind-the-scenes shit have you observed?

Just the extent to which attractive girls can get what they want; once at the bar her and her friends got free drinks all night from some weesh rich guy just for making out for 30 seconds. She also had a dude named Brendan who was in love with her and did all the classic 'gay best friend' stuff with and for her; brother even painted her bedroom for her once.

Post: #34

I have four sisters ranging from 16-37 years old. A couple things I've observed:

-The oldest one is married. The husband is the typical alpha male. He is always teasing her/making fun of her, he got a motorcycle even when she said no, and he also had an affair at work. And after my sis found out about it, instead of asking for a divorce, she says she wants to work it out. I hate to say it, but game recognized.

-The youngest one, who is in high school, is basically the epitome of the young, entitled, american girl that is described over and over again on this forum. She goes to school, gossips, gets home, goes facebook/tumbler/skype, stays on until she goes to sleep. She does nothing else. Some days that I visit home, I overhear her convos on the phone, which she talks to her friends about the latest drama. She already has beta orbiters, and is the typical girl that uses guys for attention, and only goes after the bad boys at school.

-Also with youngest sister, out of all the dudes she hangs out with/dates, they have mostly been all typical nice guys, who she makes fun of to her friends, and treats like crap. It's amazing what I see on her facebook page, so many comments and likes on everything she posts. All the comments about hows she's beautiful blah blah blah. The two boyfriends she has had, one was into drugs and he also cheated on her, and that's all she talks about. And another, who the only thing I heard her say about him was that she was mad that he doesn't sit with her at lunch, because he's off talking to other girls. Game recognized.

-I think it does give guys an advantage to have sisters, because we are able to see the other side of how game works on girls. Time and time again concepts and ideas that are talked about on this forum are always being confirmed, and it's funny to actually see it happen.

Post: #35

SpiderKing:

What kind of guy did your sister marry? Tell me everything: age, race, income, game, etc.

Post: #36

(11-13-2012 07:30 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't have any sisters. It would have definitely helped my game when I was younger, as girls wouldn't be so mysterious to me. But alas.

don't worry, i don' t think you missed out on anything game-wise, except perhaps for some advice on how to get dressed and looks...

Post: #37

(11-14-2012 01:18 PM)Samseau Wrote:  SpiderKing:

What kind of guy did your sister marry? Tell me everything: age, race, income, game, etc.

Grab a drink, sit back, relax, and check your PM inbox.

Post: #38

My sister is married as well, and so are most of her cute friends. She used to get hit on all the time and often still does.

She introduced me to most of her cute friends while we were in college and will occasionally meet cute girls and introduce me to them as well. Gotta love that preselection. From there it's a slam dunk.

Post: #39

My sis is an 8 and its made me realise how self conscious even attractive girls are. She was very skinny as a teen and used to be bullied because of it, this has affected her confidence as an adult. When you see an attractive girl remember they may have spent some years as a minger so may not see themselves as you see them.

Post: #40

My sister is to young for me to start going after her friends but it will happen!!

Post: #41

2, actually.

My younger one has 18-20 year old friends, but I think it'll get a LOT better when they can all start going out to bars...

Post: #42

I think any guy who grows up with a even a borderline bangable sister during her teenage years automatically has a massive educational advantage over guys who don't.

Even if you know nothing about game or the red pill, seeing her interact with guys on a regular basis will inevitably teach you how females behave, act, and above all react to things in private.

Post: #43

I have 2 sisters who are in their 20s. They got somehow into their mind that having a tattoo is something very cool, and they are planning to get tattoos, and I'm not sure how to push them away from this bad idea

Post: #44

I have two sisters. Older one probably 8.5 and the other now a 6. One the epitome of 3rd wave feminism ( short died hair, married an illegal so he could stay here, working girl who then frivolously divorced him) ahea 26 and is now a raping by on a meager living in SLC. The other just turned 30, like Tuth said I'm not attracted to her but man oh man does my bro in law have it good. The have 4 kids and she has lost the baby weight every time she stays fit hiking, running etc, stays at home with the kids supports her husband is his startup freight business. So yeah I'd say it's affected my game. The feminist one was never really around as she was being sexually liberated in a few different states so I would introduce any LTRs to the feminine one. Helped me realize what was the standard for my one marriage with current wife. Although it helped coming from a large family with traditional values. Dad probably lay never even heard of the red pill but I'd say became an alpha provider.

The feminine one helps keep my wife's perspective.

Post: #45

(11-13-2012 07:30 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't have any sisters. It would have definitely helped my game when I was younger, as girls wouldn't be so mysterious to me. But alas.

(06-03-2016 08:47 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  I think any guy who grows up with a even a borderline bangable sister during her teenage years automatically has a massive educational advantage over guys who don't.

These are my exact thoughts on having a sister. Girls were a mystery to me largely up until high school. I think having a sister would've helped me spit more solid game during Elementary/Middle school.

Post: #46

^ Amen.

You bastards with hot sisters close in age especially ones that are only a few years younger and look up to you and hooked you up with their hot friends pretty much won the lottery of Game when it comes to family members.

I noticed all my friends with attractive slightly younger sisters on average had a much easier time dealing with women from an early age because they are put at a sort of leadership role over an attractive female early in life.

Post: #47

I have a 21 year old sister who is very hot. 100 thousand followers hot. I have had, and will have more, sex with a few of her friends. I think this summer will really be my time to capitalize because they are all 21, and my sister is going to live with me.

We have some other sisters, but they are all now baby makers. None are feminists because we are Polynesian.

My21 year old sister goes to an outrageously expensive college in California. She has almost perfect grades working towards a degree called computer science/mathematics.

She has (at least admitted to) not had any offers to go to Dubai. But has an offer to sponsor a wonderful product called BOOTEA. One of her friends has one million subscribers and just travels and takes pictures and blows strangers. Myself included.

This friend worries me. My sister is supposed to work for me this summer. So far its been a disaster. She calls in sick if she's "feeling some type of way." If something happens that is either "cray cray" or even "redick" she shuts down. She has no work ethic at all. I think she sees her friend making money and doing whatever she wants, and wants to be like her. She is twenty one so hopefully she snaps out of it.

Aloha!

Post: #48

Kona it's going to be a helluva battle if you want to keep her out of that life.

Part of me wishes I had a younger sister growing up, but at the same time I'm not sure if I would have grown up being the protective whiteknight type or not. I'm sure it would have helped a lot with understanding women early on, especially behind closed doors... and as others have said, getting instant social proof into circles of other hot young trim. Just need to be the "cool big brother" who she looks up to her and all her slutty little friends pine over and want to bang.

Mmm. That's some teen movie shit right there.

Post: #49

I hated the way my sister treated her boyfriends, in her twenties, when I was around her in the eighties. We didn't have hypergamy back then, so I just thought she was a cunt. She was so sweet to everyone and dumped all her scorn on the man in her life. It was the gender version of the sweet older couple who are nice to everyone then flip out in a frenzy of hate when they see a picture of Martin Luther King.

I liked every guy she went out with, and the ones who would nowadays would be called betas were such stand up guys. They would do anything for her. It was how they showed their love. It was obvious to everyone they adored her, and she talked shit about them all. No internet though, so this wasn't the sort of thing we talked about back then, we just sort of compartmentalized it, and got on with things. One of the reasons I am so grateful for the manosphere and this forum is that it has answered many questions that I had over the years that were never answered, and dropped into a self imposed memory hole.

If you have no terminology, you can't describe something, and even if you do the best you can, you will be seen as "having a problem with women," so you learn fast not to bring anything up. It is behaviorism in a very pure form. Be pro woman, get a pat on the head. Criticize women, get a shock from the big stick.

It is such a relief to know that the women in my family, though entitled twats, are not particularly entitled twats that I have to be ashamed of personally. They are just women, and will do what they can get away with, and have to be monitored.

Post: #50

That's a little wrong: