Post: #26

If you're a newbie swoop 100 girls and don't be too picky. Once you've joined the 100+ club focus on QUALITY over QUANTITY. It'll improve your sex abilities and let's face it: there's more 5 and 6's then 8 and 9's.

That being said...my ideal chick has a gorgeous face. I'm a face guy. I can handle a girl not having big tits or a smoking ass IF she has a gorgeous face. She could be stick thin and I'm cool. If I don't want to look at her and kiss her then probably not going to swoop. Then again after a few vodka tonics maybe I will kiss her haha.

Post: #27

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  really big butt, thick thighs

No hatre here just my opinion.

It still blows my mind to this day that these two descriptions are reserved for the ideal of sexiness in America. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like some shape on a booty, but certainly not a "really big butt" or thick thighs.

Even though I'm not looking for marriage, if you can look at a woman and tell she's going to completely blow up in the next 5 to 10 years, it's over for me. If I can see it, she's already blowing up. She's already all bad.

I used to be a boobs guy at least. Now that I've spent so much time with Asians, though, I'm more down with beautiful, petite women, even if that means sacrificing tits. As long as you don't get those wierd flabby small tits or those small tits that don't look like tits at all, these women still look very sexy naked.

Now that I've passed that point in my life, I personally find oversized tittlies overrated, and they only get worse as the chick ages. And I don't think there's ever been a time in my life I would have found the woman in that pic appealing.

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  White guys would not do this, and what this does is it ruins the market by placing ugly girls in the same pedestal that pretty girls get all just because of their body and places pretty girls with great bodys in a "unattainable" tier level for avg guys in the states

Just to clarify what you mean, are you saying that whites guys are ruining the market for not doing this? Or that guys who reward women who have nothing but body are ruining it? It wasn't clear to me.

I ask because I've often felt like dudes who get all crazy about a fat ass and thick thighs with no regards to the face or attitude are the ones ruining the market.

Anyhow, the girl in the pic does not look attractive to me whatsoever. She looks fat to me - hands down. I always shake my head when my boys tell me they like this sort of thing. Seems to be the predominant preference now though.

I guess it all comes down to different tastes. And that's cool; if we all wanted the same thing there'd even be less quality to go around, right?

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #28

Honestly, given that 90% of the time Im banging a girl Im looking at her, I want a pretty face. If youre big on doggy then I can see being more ambivalent, but Im whiter than mayo and I want to lay on my back while a girl faces me and rides me. I want to look at them and I like facials. Face cred is paramount.

I like curves for sure, but I dont like donkey booty.

Post: #29

(11-10-2012 02:04 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  really big butt, thick thighs

No hatre here just my opinion.

It still blows my mind to this day that these two descriptions are reserved for the ideal of sexiness in America. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like some shape on a booty, but certainly not a "really big butt" or thick thighs.

Even though I'm not looking for marriage, if you can look at a woman and tell she's going to completely blow up in the next 5 to 10 years, it's over for me. If I can see it, she's already blowing up. She's already all bad.

I used to be a boobs guy at least. Now that I've spent so much time with Asians, though, I'm more down with beautiful, petite women, even if that means sacrificing tits. As long as you don't get those wierd flabby small tits or those small tits that don't look like tits at all, these women still look very sexy naked.

Now that I've passed that point in my life, I personally find oversized tittlies overrated, and they only get worse as the chick ages. And I don't think there's ever been a time in my life I would have found the woman in that pic appealing.

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  White guys would not do this, and what this does is it ruins the market by placing ugly girls in the same pedestal that pretty girls get all just because of their body and places pretty girls with great bodys in a "unattainable" tier level for avg guys in the states

Just to clarify what you mean, are you saying that whites guys are ruining the market for not doing this? Or that guys who reward women who have nothing but body are ruining it? It wasn't clear to me.

I ask because I've often felt like dudes who get all crazy about a fat ass and thick thighs with no regards to the face or attitude are the ones ruining the market.

Anyhow, the girl in the pic does not look attractive to me whatsoever. She looks fat to me - hands down. I always shake my head when my boys tell me they like this sort of thing. Seems to be the predominant preference now though.

I guess it all comes down to different tastes. And that's cool; if we all wanted the same thing there'd even be less quality to go around, right?

You're correct, i am saying that as black/hispanic men we ruin OUR OWN Market by putting uglier woman on the same level as pretty women just because they have body parts we desire....im guilty of this and frankly i dont think im going to stop. But where I differ is that I let them know that all they are is just a big butt and not really anything else I use "its your booty not your beauty" (negs) all the time.

White culture you dont see UGLY white women with nice bodies in magazines (FHM, MAXIM, SI Swimsuit, etc etc) but their urban counterparts you can always find an average to below average women on two page spreads (Smooth, King, Straight Stuntin, etc).

The reason that is...and this is an important point....that a woman to have that ass-hip-waist-thigh ratio is RARE and a MUTATION. I know it sounds funny...but it is...the fat (because lets be honest, thats what it is) has shaped its self in such a way on parts of her body to not interfere with her stomach and go to just her ass/thighs all the while keeping it in a curvy format. This is why i hate when i see big booty models like Buffie The Body work out and act like they maintained a slim waist/fat booty ratio by eating certain foods and working out. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DIRECT FAT IN THAT MANNER!!! Either you loose it or gain it, and when its gain it, your body distributes it where it wants. there is not workout on earth that can distribute fat exclusively away from your stomach all the while keeping the fat in your ass and thighs and at the same time maintaing a curvy shape.

if you took women from all races and gave them the same height and weight 5'4, 155lbs more times than not most of those girls would be considered fat and would show it in there bodies. but there would be a few women most likely black and/or hispanic who would have flat stomachs, small waists, really big butts and thighs. Those women did not work out any specific way, or eat any certain food, its just the way the fat stored.

Post: #30

Much more clear and some great points there. You really hit the heart of the matter.

I think there was a thread here earlier talking about how there's a phenomenon right now with more white women having booty. My first thought when I read that was - yea, white women are getting fatter. So some are obviously going to wear that fat where guys these days tend to like it.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #31

The manjaw chick in this thread is too much, as well as the banging ass black chick. I would bang but only in pitch darkness with no friends seeing.

I am the same, I am all about the body when it comes to the bang as long as her face isn't deformed or straight up ugly (like manjaw). In my experience a banging body means she will be a good lay. Girls without smoking bodies are usually more uncomfortable in bed even if they have pretty faces.

If it is a girl that I am going to make a "main chick" and bring her around my friends and family though, she has to have a pretty face in addition to the banging body. I don't usually bring chicks around friends and family though so...

Post: #32

How ugly we talkin' here?

Post: #33

Post: #34

I need a pretty face in order to feel "in love". Is that beta?

Post: #35

The shower girl is very nice. The one with the camera might be also (in a better photograph). The one in the top photo possibly has a nice face, but needs seriously to reduce the fat on her thighs.

On topic though, the face is to give you pleasure via your eyes; you receive pleasure from the other end of her primarily via tactile input. So, the face should look nice; the cunt should feel nice.

Post: #36

The face is much less important for a one night stand. As others have said, doggystyle and focus on the body. And yeah, I'll admit when it has happened, my dick overpowered my mind, and I ignored the hurt face. The equation in my mind is:
banging factor of body > hurt factor of face

But if I'm going to keep the girl around, I require a bare minimum of facial beauty. So, it's not that the face isn't important (it is), but only when I have to see her sober in the light of day.

Post: #37

(11-10-2012 07:00 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  I need a pretty face in order to feel "in love". Is that beta?

It's only beta if you care what other alphas/betas think.

Post: #38

(11-10-2012 07:00 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  I need a pretty face in order to feel "in love". Is that beta?

It's only beta if you care what other alphas/betas think.

Post: #39

(11-10-2012 09:14 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(11-10-2012 07:00 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  I need a pretty face in order to feel "in love". Is that beta?

It's only beta if you care what other alphas/betas think.

I'm way paste the point of caring what others think about me. I think that's part of my charm and I feel that it comes through subtley in my game. I have no problem disqualifying pretty girls if they annoy me.

Post: #40

I need an attractive face. I'm just not interested otherwise.

That said, I also need them to have a good body. I can have both, so why not?

I couldn't date a 5 face, 9 body. It just wouldn't pass my arousal test. I don't know why I'm wired this way when other guys aren't. I know my notch count is much lower for this fact.

Post: #41

My ex would probably fall under this category, 6 in the face and 9 in the body.
I sometimes looked at her at felt like punching her in the face but when she took her clothes off my "little" friend went stupid.

It is pretty hard to find girls that have both, body and face. When I see girls with a pretty face and the body is lacking, it is a let down for me.

Post: #42

I'm more about the body, a butterface doesn't bother me in the least. As a reference, the first black chick that was posted I would not bang and do not consider her attractive at all. The pic that was posted by tenderman, if it's a girl(not a tranny) I'd bang. The last girls in the thread. Most likely yes, with the exception of 1 and 4, which I am not feeling. The girl with the beer on her ass is a bit thicker than I would want, but what the hell I'll put her in the yes category.

Seriously though I'm just a horny man and love getting laid. I'd rather bang a butterface, a big booty chick, or a chick with flaws than not get laid for the night.

I banged a girl with a large booty friday night, it was good. I can give a rats ass if someone saw me with her and thought she was 'thick'

Post: #43

Pitt really doesnt give a crap about face. I've seen it for myself.... He isnt lying.

Post: #44

I value a good body more than the face, but those chicks posted above are simply fat, do not want.
To me they are the opposite of what I thought this thread was about.

Post: #45

For me to consider a relationship, she would have to have a pretty face. For a one night stand or a fuck buddy connection, the body is sufficient.

There's just something about bringing a pretty face girl to events or showing her off to friends or family that gives me a confidence boost.

Post: #46

When I first got into the game, a pretty face was all I cared about and it still hasn't really changed. Obviously I'll be even happier if the girl has a nice body but the face is of the utmost importance. Maybe this is a deterrent to my notch count but I just can't find it in myself to put in enough effort to bang any girl who has a busted face. For the record I am an Asian guy so it does seem like black and Latin guys are more into big thighs and big booties.

Post: #47

I can enjoy a nice, round as as much as the next guy, but there's no way I'd touch even half the girls in those picks.

There's a difference between having curves and just having an ass fulla lard.

(11-10-2012 05:25 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Post: #48

(11-10-2012 11:44 AM)PhilE Wrote:  

(11-10-2012 02:04 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  really big butt, thick thighs

No hatre here just my opinion.

It still blows my mind to this day that these two descriptions are reserved for the ideal of sexiness in America. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like some shape on a booty, but certainly not a "really big butt" or thick thighs.

Even though I'm not looking for marriage, if you can look at a woman and tell she's going to completely blow up in the next 5 to 10 years, it's over for me. If I can see it, she's already blowing up. She's already all bad.

I used to be a boobs guy at least. Now that I've spent so much time with Asians, though, I'm more down with beautiful, petite women, even if that means sacrificing tits. As long as you don't get those wierd flabby small tits or those small tits that don't look like tits at all, these women still look very sexy naked.

Now that I've passed that point in my life, I personally find oversized tittlies overrated, and they only get worse as the chick ages. And I don't think there's ever been a time in my life I would have found the woman in that pic appealing.

(11-09-2012 09:10 AM)PhilE Wrote:  White guys would not do this, and what this does is it ruins the market by placing ugly girls in the same pedestal that pretty girls get all just because of their body and places pretty girls with great bodys in a "unattainable" tier level for avg guys in the states

Just to clarify what you mean, are you saying that whites guys are ruining the market for not doing this? Or that guys who reward women who have nothing but body are ruining it? It wasn't clear to me.

I ask because I've often felt like dudes who get all crazy about a fat ass and thick thighs with no regards to the face or attitude are the ones ruining the market.

Anyhow, the girl in the pic does not look attractive to me whatsoever. She looks fat to me - hands down. I always shake my head when my boys tell me they like this sort of thing. Seems to be the predominant preference now though.

I guess it all comes down to different tastes. And that's cool; if we all wanted the same thing there'd even be less quality to go around, right?

You're correct, i am saying that as black/hispanic men we ruin OUR OWN Market by putting uglier woman on the same level as pretty women just because they have body parts we desire....im guilty of this and frankly i dont think im going to stop. But where I differ is that I let them know that all they are is just a big butt and not really anything else I use "its your booty not your beauty" (negs) all the time.

White culture you dont see UGLY white women with nice bodies in magazines (FHM, MAXIM, SI Swimsuit, etc etc) but their urban counterparts you can always find an average to below average women on two page spreads (Smooth, King, Straight Stuntin, etc).

I dont think you should say we are ruining our own market just because we have different preferences in comparison to other races. Beauty is subjective. Some people value more faces than bodies, some value more bodies than faces. How are we fucking up the market if we all have different preferences?

Post: #49

We all have our preferred types when it comes to women. As previously mentioned it all depends on what purpose the current girl is going to serve. If she's just a cheap lay then the face will likely has less importance than the body since the chances of her becoming a LTR are slim to none. Her only purpose is putting a smile on your dick. On the other hand if we're talking about a LTR then you obviously want a pretty face (and hopefully a hot body) to show off in public to your friends/family etc. It's almost unconsciously like showing off a trophy to boost your status around other females and males.

Post: #50

problem is the newness wears off pretty quickly, whatever trophy you' ve conquered.

I would bang any hot russian or brasilian 9-booty even if her face is a 5.

As some famous politician once said, " it's the boner, stupid"